Mufflers?????

[pcolagirl]

I have a question..especially for the boaters located in the Florida area. How do you deal with the FWC on your local rivers with your boat motors? Most of the guys in our area have Mercurys w/15" mids..now our guys like to make passes up and down the river to show off to others as well as to put on video. Sometimes our local FWC officers will just drive by and wave....but, and it may depend on the officer or something...other times(and this has happened to a couple of guys) they will stop the boat and want to look at the motor etc...Now my bf onebadvector, has a ,02 Merc 200 w/cut down 15" mid fishing motor and really is not as loud as some of the Donzi inboard boats that run up and down our river..yet FWC told him that "His boat is too loud and that it is a "racing" motor." They never put a decible meter on his motor..Really I just would like to know if you guys have this same problem in your area or how you deal with it.
Thanks:cheers:

[2 De River]

If it's a offshore mid there is a baffle that you can get to go up into the exhaust outlet it cuts down a little noise, also if they ask to hear it trim the motor all the way down and if possible shif some weight to the rear of the boat, this puts the exhaust either under the water or close enough to quieten it, just don't rev it to 3000 rpms.:reddevil: Good luck! Jimmy

[D.B.S]

Whats wrong with a "racing" motor? are they saying he can't run it?

[pcolagirl]

Well it is a stock factory 20" fishing mid cut to a 15". And he did put the boat in deeper water and put the motor all the way down and was still told that it was too loud. Now keep in mind while this officer is talking to him right beside them a Donzi w/an inboard on it cranked up (purposely just to aggravate them) and it sounded like a drag car cranking up..when asked about him (not to throw another boater under the bus) the officers said "Oh we're going to talk to him too." Although they never did and there was an officer from a truck talking to my bf and two others in a boat (who could have "gone and talked to him" as they weren't doing anything). It just seems that there are boaters out there that just don't care, don't watch wear they are going, jet skiers that hop over waves and cut in front of boats, people pulling tubes and trying their best to THROW riders off etc going on. Does the FWC mess with them? NO NO NO NO...who do they mess with? The guys with the fast boats who usually don't even run their boats until most everyone is gone and who seem to be more cautious than any other boaters. IT JUST REALLY IRRATES ME HOW THEY TREAT OUR GUYS BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ENJOY WATCHING THEM.

[pcolagirl]

Whats wrong with a "racing" motor? are they saying he can't run it?
Well thats the way I understand it. Like I stated in my previous post just seems like they only want to mess with these guys and they are MUCH MORE responsible than most other boaters because they know what can happen. :mad:

[OneBadVector]

heres some pics of my mid the motor isnt a race motor its a fishing black motor it a 02 200 2.5 bone stock175498

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[BUSHWACKER]

Seems fla doesn't really want anyone to fish or boat here anymore. :mad:

[Hippie459MN]

I wanna see more pictures of the boat. :)

My uncle got alot of grief down there a few years back while on vacation for not having any muffler on his OMC but he never did get a ticket but they watched him so he didnt make to much noise.

[h2oskiier30]

Jimmy, no offense to you at all, but I heard through two different people that were down there Sunday that you ran WAY too close to some people swimming, got somewhat confrontational about it, and probably got the law called to you.

Mind you, this is second hand info since I wasn't there, but I've heard it from two different people that there was in incident, and the boat they both described is very likely yours.

[2 De River]

The po po just don't like the performance style boats, yet we do pay the same registration fees, insurance etc. as the jet skis,and other type boats. If it looks fast they are all over it. Check out a bass tournament, they will allow them to run side by side to the max but if two tunnel boats even pass one another its racing,, .

I suggest you contact your State Representative with your concerns, if possible have documentation to support your concerns, he/she can contact the DNR higher up & have them investigate the incidents.

We have one officer in our area that tells us to run the boats in the river, (the river is out of his jurisdiction). But jet skis (with under age operators) run all over the area.

The other day I got a warning ticket for speeding on my truck, (48 in 45) I was pulling my Mirage on my way back from the river, the 1st thing he wanted to know was how fast the boat would run? I asked him if he was ticketing the truck or the boat? I'm convinced that if the boat wasn't behind the truck I probably wouldn't have been stopped.

I have met a few Fl. DNR guys that are pretty nice and fair I have found that the Fl. guys are more understanding than he other neighboring states.

Hope to see you guys at Bainbridge or Lake Eufaula, look me up. Jimmy:cheers:

[hydroholic]

Jimmy, no offense to you at all, but I heard through two different people that were down there Sunday that you ran WAY too close to some people swimming, got somewhat confrontational about it, and probably got the law called to you.

Mind you, this is second hand info since I wasn't there, but I've heard it from two different people that there was in incident, and the boat they both described is very likely yours.I run on the same river he does, the Blackwater River and have NEVER had a problem with them harrasing me for being to loud. I have a Vector with a modified Bridgeport with an offshore mid and it is very loud. Had an officer pull me over last year and checked liscense and registration,lifejackets,fire extinguisher etc. when he was finished he let go of my boat and the current drifted him behind me at an angle. I couldn't resist so I fired it up hit the trim button and raised it enough that it would stand up a little and nailed it. When the bow dropped, I stayed in it for about half a mile. Eased of the throttle looked back and he was headed the other way. Seen him many more times that day and no problem. The problem is that some of these people with these "fast boats" that already draw attention like to make their high speed runs right down the straight away in front of the boat ramp and the pavillons so they have an audience that most of the time could care less and are not impressed. This just happens to be where all the "family boats" hang out and pull their young kids on tubes and skis, not to mention a church sitting close to the bank on that straight away.Not a place you need to make your high speed runs anyway and it just pisses the marine patrol off to see them running so fast in this particular area. I had one tell me to go past the railroad trussels to the South (about half a mile downstream) and I could run as fast as I wanted and no one would bother me. All it takes is a little sense and some respect for others and they won't bother you. But then again I guess some people have to have their ego stroked regularly. My advise to One Bad Vector would be to do all your fast driving South of the railroad trussels and you probably want have anymore problems. And just remember ,there may not be a speed limit on our river and no really long no wake zones ( theres already talk of making the straight away just north of the bridge all the way up to the last pavillon on the right a no wake zone due to the fast speeds coming through) but that can change. And piss a marine patrol officer off and he can find something to write you a ticket for I guarantee.
Hydro

[georgiariverrat]

I run on the same river he does, the Blackwater River and have NEVER had a problem with them harrasing me for being to loud. I have a Vector with a modified Bridgeport with an offshore mid and it is very loud. Had an officer pull me over last year and checked liscense and registration,lifejackets,fire extinguisher etc. when he was finished he let go of my boat and the current drifted him behind me at an angle. I couldn't resist so I fired it up hit the trim button and raised it enough that it would stand up a little and nailed it. When the bow dropped, I stayed in it for about half a mile. Eased of the throttle looked back and he was headed the other way. Seen him many more times that day and no problem. The problem is that some of these people with these "fast boats" that already draw attention like to make their high speed runs right down the straight away in front of the boat ramp and the pavillons so they have an audience that most of the time could care less and are not impressed. This just happens to be where all the "family boats" hang out and pull their young kids on tubes and skis, not to mention a church sitting close to the bank on that straight away.Not a place you need to make your high speed runs anyway and it just pisses the marine patrol off to see them running so fast in this particular area. I had one tell me to go past the railroad trussels to the South (about half a mile downstream) and I could run as fast as I wanted and no one would bother me. All it takes is a little sense and some respect for others and they won't bother you. But then again I guess some people have to have their ego stroked regularly. My advise to One Bad Vector would be to do all your fast driving South of the railroad trussels and you probably want have anymore problems. And just remember ,there may not be a speed limit on our river and no really long no wake zones ( theres already talk of making the straight away just north of the bridge all the way up to the last pavillon on the right a no wake zone due to the fast speeds coming through) but that can change. And piss a marine patrol officer off and he can find something to write you a ticket for I guarantee.
Hydro



:iagree::iagree::iagree:
Here on the Flint River we have the DNR on patrol every weekend and if you respect others and use a little common sense they never bother you (as long as you are obeying the law) :smiletest:

[RNM018]

Well , I thought I posted this earlier ,but I'll try this again .

Put an AirBox back on your motor . With the lightweight colwings there are no insulation ,and alot of the noise you are hearing is from the intake track . It apears that your mid is not releived ,unless it's under the bottom . So that souldn't be to loud ,other then the tinny sound from the thin mid with no liner .

If your still getting herassed , I'd say it's because you've already done something to get singled out for .

Good Luck !

Rich Martin 018 :thumbsup:

[85allison]

I would have to say that the attention was on this particular boat due to something other than exhuast. There is no law that states an outboard has to have a muffler due to them not being made. An airboat however does do to its engine allways being out of the water. If someone complains, law enforcement will look for whatever they can to stop you on. This time it was the noise. I am sure it was for something else IMO. Be safe, go fast away from everyone else.

[pcolagirl]

Jimmy, no offense to you at all, but I heard through two different people that were down there Sunday that you ran WAY too close to some people swimming, got somewhat confrontational about it, and probably got the law called to you.

Mind you, this is second hand info since I wasn't there, but I've heard it from two different people that there was in incident, and the boat they both described is very likely yours.


H2O:
Yes there were some people..that were saying that he was a little too close to some kids out there...but the situation was that he was going by and a jet ski pulling a tube pulled out in front of him and he had to dip around her to avoid hitting the tube. Now he was a little closer than he normally would have been, but mind you Jimmy LOVES CHILDREN and was being mindful of not hitting anyone. And as I told the man that continued to be a jerk about the whole situation had Jimmy by some chance hit a child he would have IMMEDIATELY put that boat on the trailer and SET IT ON FIRE and NEVER would have forgiven himself. But when the situation started and the people kept being rude about the way they were informing him of how close he was he immediately loaded his boat on the trailer so that he could just wait until later in the afternoon when there were not as many people out to run his boat. But these people surrounded him upon his parking the boat and about 6-7 LARGE guys surrounded him and me and started jumping on him about it..The one guy who started it even got up in Jimmy's face and threatened him. Now Jimmy of course just like most men didnt back down but told them fine just drop it the boat is on the trailer yet these people wanted to keep it going. Well eventually most of them except one group left and Jimmy finally put his boat back in the water only to be approached by the FWC, AFTER he had parked his boat on the bank. So YES someone did call the police on him because of this which is very childish.. Jimmy understood that they thought he was too close and put his boat on the trailer and that should have been the end of it, but for some reason someone had to feel big and involve the police and mess up good friends enjoying the river and our boats. But these same people that called the police have some issues that I am sure that they would not want revealed on here...Alls I will say is that there was someone with them that should not have been out there.

[pcolagirl]

I run on the same river he does, the Blackwater River and have NEVER had a problem with them harrasing me for being to loud. I have a Vector with a modified Bridgeport with an offshore mid and it is very loud. Had an officer pull me over last year and checked liscense and registration,lifejackets,fire extinguisher etc. when he was finished he let go of my boat and the current drifted him behind me at an angle. I couldn't resist so I fired it up hit the trim button and raised it enough that it would stand up a little and nailed it. When the bow dropped, I stayed in it for about half a mile. Eased of the throttle looked back and he was headed the other way. Seen him many more times that day and no problem. The problem is that some of these people with these "fast boats" that already draw attention like to make their high speed runs right down the straight away in front of the boat ramp and the pavillons so they have an audience that most of the time could care less and are not impressed. This just happens to be where all the "family boats" hang out and pull their young kids on tubes and skis, not to mention a church sitting close to the bank on that straight away.Not a place you need to make your high speed runs anyway and it just pisses the marine patrol off to see them running so fast in this particular area. I had one tell me to go past the railroad trussels to the South (about half a mile downstream) and I could run as fast as I wanted and no one would bother me. All it takes is a little sense and some respect for others and they won't bother you. But then again I guess some people have to have their ego stroked regularly. My advise to One Bad Vector would be to do all your fast driving South of the railroad trussels and you probably want have anymore problems. And just remember ,there may not be a speed limit on our river and no really long no wake zones ( theres already talk of making the straight away just north of the bridge all the way up to the last pavillon on the right a no wake zone due to the fast speeds coming through) but that can change. And piss a marine patrol officer off and he can find something to write you a ticket for I guarantee.
Hydro

Until this day we ALSO had never had a problem with FWC as a matter of fact they have waved as we went by. The reason that they messed with him in the first place is because some "families" called on him probably because he stood up to them when all they wanted to do was fight. That just shows their maturity. Most of the guys who drive the "fast boats" usually make their runs when there is little to no traffic. And yes they do run in front of the park by the boat landing because alot of their friends and family who do not have boats want to watch them run. Would you go to watch a drag car run and walk a mile away to watch or would you rather watch from your nice sitting area? This area is a good place to run because it is straight and mostly smooth enough. On the other side of the trussells it tends to get a little rougher and as you know with a v-hull that ride is a little rough. Also, we like to video the runs so we can see how the boat is running. Jimmy would like to eventually race his boat and its a little hard for me to video the runs from the area that you are suggesting that he run his boat as there is no place for me to stand on the bank.It just seems that our guys get messed with when someone else that doesnt have a boat like theirs gets a little upset and must call the police. Its a little funny that if our boats are the only ones running out there BOY do they draw a crowd because people LOVE to watch them run...but there seems to be a problem if we "invade" your space or time. I am sorry that I am rambling but this situation just gets me upset..As I said in the beginning we haven't been messed with until this day and ALL OF THE SUDDEN after 2 years of running at this river they decide that his motor is too loud?!?!?!?

[Tom Foley]

Think of it as a learning process ..you will not win out in the end no matter how passionate you are about this . If the FWC recieves a complaint , they have to answer the call . If you read the published boating rules and regulations published by the FWC , it specifically states that even though there is no speed limit posted , a judgement call can be made as to the manner in which the boat is being operated . Do yourself a favor and find another spot to show off your passes in the boats if need be and stay clear of the complaining party . It's a life lesson unfortunately .:mad:

[pcolagirl]

Yes I understand that if they receive a complaint that they must respond. And I understand that they were just doing their jobs. But as I stated in a previous post while talking to him another boat which had a MUCH louder motor cranked up and flew by a few times purposely and nothing was said to them. And the reason I know it was done purposely is because the driver of that boat told me so. He wanted them to stop him because he thought it was BS that they were bothering him. We will continue to go to this river because we had never seen this group there prior to this day and we know they are the reason we were harrassed.

[pcolagirl]

blackwater
<HR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #72a5d8; COLOR: #72a5d8" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->it's all good, trouble was brewing before jimmy showed, a lady told me, said they looking for trouble... later i think i met you and yours


This is a pm that I received that shows that we were not the ones looking for trouble.

[pcolagirl]

This is the statute that the officer said he violated. Keep in mind that the officer NEVER measured his motor with a decible (sp?) meter and only showed him the first few lines of the statute.



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327.65 Muffling devices.--
(1) The exhaust of every internal combustion engine used on any vessel operated on the waters of this state shall be effectively muffled by equipment so constructed and used as to muffle the noise of the exhaust in a reasonable manner. The use of cutouts is prohibited, except for vessels competing in a regatta or official boat race, and for such vessels while on trial runs.
(2)(a) Any county wishing to impose additional noise pollution and exhaust regulations on vessels may, pursuant to s. 327.60 (http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=327.65&URL=Ch0327/Sec60.HTM)(1), adopt by county ordinance the following regulations:
1. No person shall operate or give permission for the operation of any vessel on the waters of any county or on a specified portion of the waters of any county, including the Florida Intracoastal Waterway, which has adopted the provisions of this section in such a manner as to exceed the following sound levels at a distance of 50 feet from the vessel: for all vessels, a maximum sound level of 90 dB A.
2. Any person who refuses to submit to a sound level test when requested to do so by a law enforcement officer is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 (http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=327.65&URL=Ch0775/Sec082.HTM) or s. 775.083. (http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=327.65&URL=Ch0775/Sec083.HTM)
(b) The following words and phrases, when used in this section, shall have the meanings respectively assigned to them in this subsection. 1. "dB A" means the composite abbreviation for the A-weighted sound level and the unit of sound level, the decibel. 2. "Sound level" means the A-weighted sound pressure level measured with fast response using an instrument complying with the specification for sound level meters of the American National Standards Institute, Inc., or its successor bodies, except that only a weighting and fast dynamic response need be provided.

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[Jay R.]

we have a saying at work. "perception is reality." So if they thought you guys were being irresponsible then that is their reality. I had a similar incident on a small bass and ski lake. small lake, was just their to be on the water, not run fast. There was a traffic pattern on the lake going counter clockwise. I got in behind a lil jon boat and started to pick up speed to go around them on the inside of the loop expecting if they pulled out it would be to the outside of the loop. Nope!! They pulled slightly to the inside and killed the motor in the middle of the traffic pattern and I had to avoid hitting them. and I became the jerk, had guys in bassers harassing me for running to close to their friends boat. doesn't matter that they shut down in the middle of the traffic pattern, and its wasn't the first time it happened to me. I was in the checkmate and some one in a ski boat did the same thing. and they weren't pulling anyone. just shut down right in front of traffic. Most other boaters don't know or care about common courtesy and rules of the road in the water!

[RNM018]

How did we go from Noise Abatement To Wreckless Operation ?:confused:

I thought the issue here was loud motors , but apparently there where other issues that where notmentioned in the title of this thread .

Seems there are always two sides to every story !

Rich Martin 018 :nonod:

[pcolagirl]

How did we go from Noise Abatement To Wreckless Operation ?:confused:

I thought the issue here was loud motors , but apparently there where other issues that where notmentioned in the title of this thread .

Seems there are always two sides to every story !

Rich Martin 018 :nonod:


Well my reason for the post was to see if other boaters had issues about their motors needing to be muffled the issue that caused the FWC to be called out was a totally different issue that some other members brought up because they live in our area. The other issue is totally unrelated to what I wanted to know. We don't know what was told to the FWC when they were called and as they have never, ever stopped us before we realize that they had to have a "reason" to talk to us so they used the reason of being too loud. I like several other people that come to our river LOVE these boats and enjoy them and to have us be harrassed and told we are too loud is annoying. Keep in mind that this is not the first time that one of our circle of friends has been pulled over and told that our motors were too loud. Yet at other times they just ride past us. We have even all been riding up and down river in a group and passed them with no FWC problem. Also the fact that other boats i.e. the Donzi that I spoke of earlier are not messed with. I just want to know do these type of boats get stopped just because of how they look or is there really an issue with the noise level that their motors put out.

[flabum1017]

If the cops are called for some reason and they don't actually see the offense take place, they can't act on it (unless there was an accident). They can, however, come up with a way to hassle you just to make a point. My guess is this was the case. The cops don't really care about how much noise that engine made, they were just hassling you because they didn't see any driving wrecklessly or anything else. And since no citation was issued, it only shows they just wanted to hassle you and let you know they are going to be watching you.......................

[twogees]

it was prob just an excuse to do his job , respond to the call and check you. realized there was nothing wrong with your boat and then sent you on your way.if he gets a complaint he has to respond he cant just ignore it....did he ticket you? i honestly prob. wouldnt worry about it. the only thing i can say as stated before is to stay away from trouble making party , also try and find new spot to video from or do it when no ones around, ie: weekday. good luck

edit: FLABUM-i was typing when you posted.guess we said same thing..thats exactly my thoughts on this.

[pcolagirl]

Yeah thats what we have figured. But it is really BS that they have to mess with us (meaning our whole gang) and use this as the reason. Honestly our motors really aren't that loud. Some of the motorcycles that drive up and down the parking area are louder than our boats. Its just the point that one day they wave at you and then after boating in this river for 2 years they stop you and NOW your boat is too loud?!?!?!?!?

[twogees]

i think your missing the point....from what im gathering the whole loud motor really has nothing to do with it, there was a complaint made on said boat and he had to react and that was prob just the first excuse that popped in his head. he didnt give you a db reading and he didnt give you a fix it ticket, so i wouldnt worry about it. just try to not piss those people off again i guess. good luck.

[RNM018]

Well , I've been doing this for just over 15 years here in Fl. and have only been stopped twice . Once was just to look in the boat ,to check safety equipment ,and once for pushing white water through an idle zone . Neither time have I been issued a ticket ,so I'm not going to complain . That being said , I have done plenty to draw attention to myself ,and could have been sited for severe violations ,and the officers have choosen not to push the issue . Which I have always apreciated .

As other have already said , the noise wasn't the issue .
I've already told you how to lower the noise level of your motor ,so now it's up to you .

Good Luck !
And remember , Your Actions Affect Us All !!!
Please Boat Respectfully !

Rich Martin 018 :thumbsup:

[2 De River]

Since this hornets nest is sturred up I'll be staying in my own area, I was planning a little road trip to meet Stoneman at the Blackwater in a couple of weeks but I think I'll keep my Alabama boat close to home, if there is a squabble going on and there are people who call the po po.

See ya'll @ Showdown 09! Jimmy

[max200]

Just remember our boats and drivers are guilty and have to be proven innocent in the eyes of the law! I know this sucks but it's reality. any chance you give them to hassle you they will. thats why we do all of our high speed stuff week day eves and just cruise on weekends

[pcolagirl]

Since this hornets nest is sturred up I'll be staying in my own area, I was planning a little road trip to meet Stoneman at the Blackwater in a couple of weeks but I think I'll keep my Alabama boat close to home, if there is a squabble going on and there are people who call the po po.

See ya'll @ Showdown 09! Jimmy


Aww man!!! Don't let this keep ya' from comin' to run down in this area. Like I said we have never been messed with before and probably won't be anything else said to us. This was just caused by someone who wanted to start something with someone and they had to stoop down to trying to get someone in trouble with the law...which didnt really work. We plan on continuing to go to the river and enjoying ourselves. We don't do anything wrong and will just wait until later in the afternoon to do our runs when all the other boats have already gone home. The officer that talked to us was in a truck and only came out because he was called. Most times we dont see vehicular FWC officers in the park. This was just a one time incident with us. In the end Jimmy and the officer were laughing and joking. Also, we could always load the boats up and go to Escambia River and run there.

[hydroholic]

Aww man!!! Don't let this keep ya' from comin' to run down in this area. Like I said we have never been messed with before and probably won't be anything else said to us. This was just caused by someone who wanted to start something with someone and they had to stoop down to trying to get someone in trouble with the law...which didnt really work. We plan on continuing to go to the river and enjoying ourselves. We don't do anything wrong and will just wait until later in the afternoon to do our runs when all the other boats have already gone home. The officer that talked to us was in a truck and only came out because he was called. Most times we dont see vehicular FWC officers in the park. This was just a one time incident with us. In the end Jimmy and the officer were laughing and joking. Also, we could always load the boats up and go to Escambia River and run there.Simple fact of the matter is , if you continue to drive fast around the landing area you WILL be stopped ,harrased or whatever you want to call it again. Plain and simple, marine patrol has already stated that driving at a high rate of speed in that area is dangerous and they will inforce it. Like I said, the people doing this crap are going to screw it up for everybody else. Before it's over with there will be a no wake zone put in this area which will mean the pleasure boaters will have to move up or down river to play and in turn ,where you CAN run fast at this time ,you will not be able to because the pleasure boats probably will have moved to that area. You say you have been running this river for 2 years, well I have been running it my whole life and it really sucks to think that because a few people will not go somewhere else to run fast they are going to screw it up for everybody else. If you just have to run fast on the straight away, do it very early in the morning when nobody else is out (but not on Sunday morning during Church service) or late in the evening when everybody else has already left. Hell, go during the weekday and you pretty much have the whole river to yourself.You got the marine patrol called on you because you pissed somebody off. For whatever reason it doesn't matter whether you were doing something wrong or not. You drive a "fast boat" and you will be singled out. Stopping yall and harrasing about being to loud was just an excuse to stop you. The area around the landing is considered a family spot not to mention the courthouse and buisness district is just across the river on the other bank. I think you can get the picture. If not ,well you will most likely be paying out some fines before it's over with.
Hydro

[OneBadVector]

simple fact of the matter is , if you continue to drive fast around the landing area you will be stopped ,harrased or whatever you want to call it again. Plain and simple, marine patrol has already stated that driving at a high rate of speed in that area is dangerous and they will inforce it. Like i said, the people doing this crap are going to screw it up for everybody else. Before it's over with there will be a no wake zone put in this area which will mean the pleasure boaters will have to move up or down river to play and in turn ,where you can run fast at this time ,you will not be able to because the pleasure boats probably will have moved to that area. You say you have been running this river for 2 years, well i have been running it my whole life and it really sucks to think that because a few people will not go somewhere else to run fast they are going to screw it up for everybody else. If you just have to run fast on the straight away, do it very early in the morning when nobody else is out (but not on sunday morning during church service) or late in the evening when everybody else has already left. Hell, go during the weekday and you pretty much have the whole river to yourself.you got the marine patrol called on you because you pissed somebody off. For whatever reason it doesn't matter whether you were doing something wrong or not. You drive a "fast boat" and you will be singled out. Stopping yall and harrasing about being to loud was just an excuse to stop you. The area around the landing is considered a family spot not to mention the courthouse and buisness district is just across the river on the other bank. I think you can get the picture. If not ,well you will most likely be paying out some fines before it's over with.
Hydro
well i glad u know so much u say u been runnin this river all ur life why havent i seen u on the river well for the no wake zone thats out u neeed to go and fine u someone to talk ur s**t to u dont know to much about what is goin on

[pcolagirl]

MAN IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE REALLY OPENED UP A CAN OF WORMS HERE!!!! I didnt want this to get into a discussion about how we drive on the river etc. We do wait until later in the afternoon to run our boats fast on the river because it is so much calmer... but my initial thread was asking about the noise level of the motors which has nothing to do with the bashing of the way we run our boats. I was just wanting to know if anyone else was having issues because IMO these motors are sold by the manufacturers and should be legal. OH WELL, maybe this issue should just be DROPPED!!!!

[max200]

Hey we are not trying to bash! and it's pretty cool that you are into this not many girls are! all we are trying to say is that the noise probably wasn't the issue. My boat is loud as hell and every one I ride with is the same or worse. we have a nemesis donzi down here with 700+ hp with open headers and we have never had an issue with noise we are just very careful about when and where we feed the need!!! to not attract attention. and believe it or not having your saftey gear on goes a long way with the local po po!

[OneBadVector]

MY BOAT WILL NOT CRACK UP TILL I PUT MY VEST ON NO ONE RIDES IN MY BOAT WITHOUT A JACKET ON U CAN BUT ON THAT IF MY MOTO IS RUNNIN U WILL HAVE ON UR JACKET :cheers::cheers:IM ONE OF THE FEW THAT WEAR THERE JACKET THIS WAS ALL STARTED BY PEOPLE THE DONT HAVE A FAST BOAT R A NICE LOOKIN BOAT ITS ALL GOOD ILL FIND THE COAST GARD AND GET MY SAFTY STICKER AND GO TO THE FWC AND GET MY BOAT CHECK OUT WITH THEM SO YALL CAN GET OFF ME ABOUT HOW I RUN AND DRIVE MY BOAT THE COPS LIKE MY BOAT AND THEY HAVE TOLD ME THEY LIKE TO SEE UR RUN THEM SO JUST GET BACK TO THE TOPIC AND QUIT BASHIN MY BOAT AND ME :cheers::cheers: JIMMY AKA"ONEBADVECTOR"

[85allison]

MY BOAT WILL NOT CRACK UP TILL I PUT MY VEST ON NO ONE RIDES IN MY BOAT WITHOUT A JACKET ON U CAN BUT ON THAT IF MY MOTO IS RUNNIN U WILL HAVE ON UR JACKET :cheers::cheers:IM ONE OF THE FEW THAT WEAR THERE JACKET THIS WAS ALL STARTED BY PEOPLE THE DONT HAVE A FAST BOAT R A NICE LOOKIN BOAT ITS ALL GOOD ILL FIND THE COAST GARD AND GET MY SAFTY STICKER AND GO TO THE FWC AND GET MY BOAT CHECK OUT WITH THEM SO YALL CAN GET OFF ME ABOUT HOW I RUN AND DRIVE MY BOAT THE COPS LIKE MY BOAT AND THEY HAVE TOLD ME THEY LIKE TO SEE UR RUN THEM SO JUST GET BACK TO THE TOPIC AND QUIT BASHIN MY BOAT AND ME :cheers::cheers: JIMMY AKA"ONEBADVECTOR"

IMO I dont feel that anyone on Scream and Fly has bashed you or your boat. They have simply stated that it was more than likely the subjects that notified Florida Fish and Wildlife that were bashing you. I am sure everyone on this site has been stopped once before by law enforcement, a lot of times there has been a complaint, they have to act on it whether it is a true complaint or not. If they see the suspected violator, that is not breaking any laws in their presence, then they will come up with some type of reason to make contact with that opperator. It happens every day. Dont get your feelings hurt from people voicing their oppinions, I am sure everyone has been in your possition once before. as a state law enforcement officer I can tell you from exprerience what was most likely the case. I dont feel that anyone on here said that you were an unsafe boater, nor that you did something wrong. Boat safely, there will allways be complaints on our type of boats due to what they are. It is the nature of the beast. Stay safe. AMC

[max200]

As stated before not bashing!!! Subject closed!

[hydroholic]

well i glad u know so much u say u been runnin this river all ur life why havent i seen u on the river well for the no wake zone thats out u neeed to go and fine u someone to talk ur s**t to u dont know to much about what is goin on I have been on the river plenty, just not in the Vector and yes I have seen you there. I sent you a rational P.M. ,read it!

Hydro

[OneBadVector]

i have been on the river plenty, just not in the vector and yes i have seen you there. I sent you a rational p.m. ,read it!

Hydro
well i sent u a pm back read it