ACES fuel additive

[Damyankee]

Is there anywhere to purchase this other than Hydromotive, I need a Quart by early next week and Hydromotive is out of Quarts. This is the 1st time I have used it and I don't want to spend the money on a Gal to try it.

Thanks in advance

[bigbore]

Don't b expectin it 2 do wonders.:cool:

[specboatops]

I think he has some he might sell ya.


Chris

[mrcrsr]

bnd automotive,708-372-6924, tell them charlie from action mobile marine sent you! and incidentally, it works great! 180 psi comp 260, 105 hours and still going strong!

[Damyankee]

I will be calling in the morning.

[rpm racing]

Don't b expectin it 2 do wonders.:cool:


I think he has some he might sell ya.


Chris

you guys need to do your homework or test it for yourself.

MANY people have had great results with it.

Jay Smith did a good test and a write up on it and it gives you some good info.

I have been running the stuff for 5+ years in light STV's with varying degree of modified drag motors and you can run 26cc with normal timing and the motor lives. I have added it to C12 with LOTS of compression and timing and had good luck.

I would not base my final decision on one guy who used it on a heavy twin engine boat with large props on it... the other issue is with the 280 there is a timing curve and I have never had anyone show me that.

[Michael Dixon]

I've used it for years with race gas and methanol but is it compatible with late model cars with o2 sensors and emissions stuff??? Need some sort of octane booster and wondered if anyone had used it?? Thanks

[Chummy]

Michael, got a buddy of mine that will be testing some here shortly in a hopped up Mustang. I'll keep you informed on that

[Michael Dixon]

Thanks Doc. Keep me informed. Make sure he's runnin sensors. I've got a pulley to add about four pounds of boost should help a good bit just little worried about the pump fuel

[mrcrsr]

i've used it in my blown camaro, it is a different formulation then the 2 stroke stuff.. my boat is single engine and heavy-2000 lbs without me in it, and i spin a 30 pitch litening et wheel at 8300 w/ 26 cc heads

[rpm racing]

Hey Mike.....I guy up here was using it in a new vette and was having good results...the ecu was sensing it was in the fuel and was really pushing out the timming and using the extra octane or slower burn or whatever the hell it does to get gains.

what kind of car are you playing with a blower on now?

[specboatops]

you guys need to do your homework or test it for yourself.

MANY people have had great results with it.

Jay Smith did a good test and a write up on it and it gives you some good info.

I have been running the stuff for 5+ years in light STV's with varying degree of modified drag motors and you can run 26cc with normal timing and the motor lives. I have added it to C12 with LOTS of compression and timing and had good luck.

I would not base my final decision on one guy who used it on a heavy twin engine boat with large props on it... the other issue is with the 280 there is a timing curve and I have never had anyone show me that.


:confused::confused: UH I've done my homework, guy said he wanted to buy some, I know a guy that has some for sale, thought I'd pass on his info, just trying to help out a Scream and Flyer get what he's looking for....

Chris

[rpm racing]

I apologize Chris.

I was taking your post to be a smartazz comment.

If Skydog is going to sell what he had someone should grab it....the stuff is priced like gold these days.

[PropHydro]

Should have it today or tomorrow at the latest,just waiting for my delivery.Thx,

Todd@Hydromotive

[specboatops]

I apologize Chris.

I was taking your post to be a smartazz comment.

If Skydog is going to sell what he had someone should grab it....the stuff is priced like gold these days.

...Its all good, no worries! :thumbsup: I as well enjoyed Jay's thread on it, any chance I get to get a little more education on something is a good day !

Chris

[Damyankee]

Todd
If you are sure you will have by tomorrow I will call and order it, I have to have it by next Wed. I live in east central Il.

[Jay Smith]

I've got a newer Z06 427 C.I. 505 HP Corvette with 3000 miles on it and want to give ACES a try ( just because of the crap gasoline ) BUT I'm a little bit apprehensive as it has 100,000 mile 5 year warranty... If the motor "swarmed" the "shape" GM is in right now I'd hate for them to tell me there was something in the fuel and caused the failure and for me to go butt a stump the warranty is void. My Son is a GM part manager at a dealership and could maybe get it through BUT I even bought a case of AC DELCO oil filters from him with the correct GM part number for that motor, call me a coward BUT I think the cost on a crate LS7 if you had to EAT one is $15,000 ish. This car IS bad to the bone as far as power, handling , fuel economy and has not even hick upped showing me it will be a warranty "baby" ... Will I take the chance ????? NA.......I'm gonna play it safe until warranty is up..TOOOO much money invested...NOW if high octane pump gas in the future becomes not available thats a different story...

Jay

[Largemouthlou]

So if ya run this stuff in a 145- 150 compression motor do ya ad a smaller amount to the 93 octain gas or do ya run the mid grade gas 89 and add the recomended amount?? Would be nice to find something to help the ethonal burn a little better..

[PropHydro]

I have had guys run it on mid grade,but myself personally always run premium and 1oz per 6 gallons.Mentally just sits better with me.In no way shape or form do I recommend mid grade or lower fuel.If you do your on your own!!!!

Todd

[skydog]

Yes guys dont cut on fuel it will cost you big time in the end....

Skydog

[whipper]

I know its not a replacment for high octain fuel to a point. I run 91oct and will continue to run 91 octain with aces. I think what aces does after talking to the guy at BM or were ever its made is just kinda like seafoam. But a little better in a lot of areas. Thats what I got out of the conversation. Theres things in it that help lubricate and clean. That to me is the cool part. Almost like a super concentate of super syntetic coating being applyes every were in side the motor.:thumbsup: Guys have tried it with higher concentrations and lower octain and the motor survived. Personaly I would give it credit for slicking every thing up for why it survived? Regardless how a high comp motor survives its got something good going on for it to survive. I used to buy the seafoam to run every now and then. I like the Aces for the same thing as the seafoam did for me. Just more concentrate. I also think it will help with burn with less than perfict gas.I put new heads on cut just a little to 33cc. I accualy didnt have to richen up the fuel with the aces? I thought i would have to but the plugs look great were it was. I did start rich and dialed it back a bit at a time. Next thing ya know im right were i was before to get good plug colour from a wot chop. So im just useing it as a cleaner and lubricant in my fuel. If i get any other benifits we will see. So far nothing negitive useing the fuel grade I normally wood have.

[Largemouthlou]

I have had guys run it on mid grade,but myself personally always run premium and 1oz per 6 gallons.Mentally just sits better with me.In no way shape or form do I recommend mid grade or lower fuel.If you do your on your own!!!!

Todd

Todd and Gang, the reason I asked is that we all know the theroy of running higher octane then needed in motors burns cooler so less power.. If the Aces boosts the 93 to 106 like it says then would we actually be running slower??

[specboatops]

Todd and Gang, the reason I asked is that we all know the theroy of running higher octane then needed in motors burns cooler so less power.. If the Aces boosts the 93 to 106 like it says then would we actually be running slower??

...On a boat with STOCK heads, theoretically yes, BUT if your running tighter heads ( say 26cc) then the higher octane is a must !

Chris

[THE HOGG]

...On a boat with STOCK heads, theoretically yes, BUT if your running tighter heads ( say 26cc) then the higher octane is a must !

Chris

DAMN! that'd be a ton of compression on a 3 litre wouldnt it? that'd be fun to watch for a minute:D

[PropHydro]

Lou,
The ACES is NOT an octane booster as traditional octane boosters go.What it does is change the apparent octane of the fuel,and without a long typographical mess your motor still thinks it is running the lower octane,so you still receive the benefits from lower octane fuel.I have had guys run the four stroke formula in hot rods at the strip,and they had better ET's with ACES and 93 octane then they did with Sunoco,Turbo Blue etc... 110 octane.I know personally after a TON of testing(nervously at first) that Aces and 93 runs better acceleration by a fair margin and a little better on top end.This was done on heads from 155 thru 195lbs of compression.Three years and no issues with 25* timing on a 2.5 260.

Todd

[oldstv]

Has anyone done any testing of this product with race gas..say 112?

[rpm racing]

Has anyone done any testing of this product with race gas..say 112?

I have ran it with 112 with really tight heads and some more timing and the motor lived. It cam out REALLY hard but would not turn revs at the big end.

Wayne Tripp did some testing adding it to 112 and had good results. He was the guy that got me onto to this stuff years ago. I know when he ran profuel all he would do is dump in some TK-7 to his progas setup and go out and run. He said it would get him better ET's over just running 112 and leaving everything else the same. BUT he could change A LOT of stuff on the motor from the drivers seat (like fuel and timing maps) so who really knows what he was doing.

For me it has been more of a safety thing than anything else.

[Largemouthlou]

Thanks Todd :cheers:

[PropHydro]

Your welcome Lou,and Rob yours has left the building and will be there Friday.

Todd

[Damyankee]

Thanks
Next time we get together to burn some brain cells its on me.

[PropHydro]

10-4 Bro

[woodduck]

OK, how am I going to get this stuff in Australia?

[max200]

Heres a link. this is where I get it from. I have used it for a year at 170 comp. 1 oz. + 93 per 6 gal. great stuff no issues
http://www.bndautomotive.com/page/page/901816.htm