Aussie Boat Discussion

[Calis]

stinga 1st
hellrazor and blazen came accross the line side by side, had way too many beers to remember who came second!


results....for those interested or to many beers :smiletest:

Overall http://www.waterskinsw.com.au/forms/2009%20Overall%20Results.pdf

Classes http://www.waterskinsw.com.au/forms/2009%20Class%20Reslts.pdf

[dale@che]

thanks mate!!

i drank way too many beers was plastered!! LOL

[Calis]

got word today that upholstry cant get done on the boat till after xmas.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

seriously bummed......

i can here my etec whining for WOT.......

[typhoon]

That's the marine trimming game for you. All winter you sit around scratching your ass, then come November, everyone remembers they have a boat tucked away behind the shed!
We'd be booked out till xmas early October at the places I worked.

Regards, Andrew.

[Calis]

That's the marine trimming game for you. All winter you sit around scratching your ass, then come November, everyone remembers they have a boat tucked away behind the shed!
We'd be booked out till xmas early October at the places I worked.

Regards, Andrew.


yeah ya not wrong.
mine was all lined up but one thing got delayed, then another, then nup sorry. ..hehe

[dale@che]

Well had it's first race today, went well, won under 13 girls by a lap.

It was blowing hard down there and it chopped up just as they were about to start, she averaged ~70mph with top of 76! she had it at 78 yesterday on the river,

we had it up to 90mph at 5000rpm playing around yesterday,

[dale@che]

here are a few pics from the weekend :)


http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/kan1.jpg
http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/kan2.jpg
http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/kan3.jpg
http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/kan4.jpg
http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/kan5.jpg
http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/kan6.jpg
http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/kan7.jpg
http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/kan8.jpg
http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/kan9.jpg

[Calis]

boat looks great dale!
love the colours and nice to see you decided on a name :)

where did you get the sign writing done?

[dale@che]

Thanks mate, will get some vids tomorrow,

Signs were done at wetton signs at brookvale,

[Calis]

Thanks mate, will get some vids tomorrow,

Signs were done at wetton signs at brookvale,


nice, wetton is a stones throw from my house.

[dale@che]

Graham Mason who made our steering coloum, water pickup etc etc works there so if you need anything made he is your man

[Calis]

Graham Mason who made our steering coloum, water pickup etc etc works there so if you need anything made he is your man

ta mate.
know him by name and this products but thats about it.

[Oz Dude]

Just in case anyone hasn't seen this yet...

The race for 2nd from the B2B -----> http://vimeo.com/7769934 (http://vimeo.com/7769934)

Oz

[Calis]

OZ!! your alive!!!!!!???????????

:D

[Oz Dude]

Yeah Dude... Sort of...

I'm up before 4am every day at present and working through till about 7 or 8 at night. Ain't life grand.

Had to take a breath this afternoon so I thought I'd see what you delinquents are up to :)

I haven't even looked at my pics from the B2B yet - how sad is that!

Later,
Oz

[dale@che]

heres another vid from playing around last night..

anyone got a 4 blade LH cleaver 26 spline lying around or know where i can get one??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R9ecCq8M3U

[mercules1750]

hey buddy how r u i do no where there is a pair of 17x25 l/r 4 blade 26 spline cleavers and there is a pair of 17.5 x 28 l/r 4 blade 26 spline cleavers cheers give me a call 0410504414 cheers kevo:cheers:

[dale@che]

calling now :)

[Calis]

Shhhhh....kevo and dale are talking. If ya quite enough you can hear em'........:D

[dale@che]

Kevo has all the hook ups :)

[Calis]

Kevo has all the hook ups :)

nice one. you get what ya wanted then?

wonder what kevo can hook me up with....hmmmmmm :p

[critta]

nice going Dale!!
Boat looks awesome.
The series racing is going to be great

[dale@che]

thanks Pat

you doing the aus titles??

[mercules1750]

hi dale will have pics in am ill send asap cheers same old story guys not what u no but who u no :cheers:

[critta]

thanks Pat

you doing the aus titles??

No. I've still got to much work on. We go away end of Jan so can't afford any time off.
Looking at doing everything though after feburary.

Had a good training run last night though. From Wisemans to Brooklyn was 2foot of wind chop.
Girls were excited they saw the connelly as they crossed Sackville ferry yesterday:thumbsup:

[dale@che]

thats a good run :)

hows the opti going?

yeh we had the new boat out yesterday testing some oil cooler mods.. little more to do to be ready for the aus titles tho!

[critta]

thats a good run :)

hows the opti going?

yeh we had the new boat out yesterday testing some oil cooler mods.. little more to do to be ready for the aus titles tho!

The opti rocks. Still haven't had time to do any more prop testing.

Are you going to Jindy?

[dale@che]

i know a guy with some props. he sold his 19 force and has 4 or 5 props... he is going to go out one day with craig and Cyclone warning, ill let you know when,

yeh i think i will go down, all there races are on the first day so will be nice and easy

[critta]

i know a guy with some props. he sold his 19 force and has 4 or 5 props... he is going to go out one day with craig and Cyclone warning, ill let you know when,

yeh i think i will go down, all there races are on the first day so will be nice and easy


Yep let me know when they go testing. Im always keen if work lets me

[olmo40]

Do any of you Aussie guys run Skid Planners on your Outboard Ski Race Rigs ?.They are a plate that usually bolts under the Jack Plate and acts like a tirm tab on take off ?

[gmjim]

I don't ski race, but i have a skid plate under my jack, aswell as the flotation in the jack. works well

[gmjim]

I don't ski race, but i have a skid plate under my jack, aswell as the flotation in the jack. works well

[critta]

Anyone know someone who will do me a good deal on a 25hp s/s Yamaha 2stroke?

[mullamaster]

Do any of you Aussie guys run Skid Planners on your Outboard Ski Race Rigs ?.They are a plate that usually bolts under the Jack Plate and acts like a tirm tab on take off ?

I'm running a plate, Has helped a bit on holeshot and stopped a bit of backwash when coming off.

[jarrahtin]

Well i am proud to say i had my 1750 bullet sitting at 80.9 MPH :D. the quickest i have taken it so far with a slight mod to an OMC prop to fit on the 3L merc, the 27 pitch shooter got me up and runnning, could have possibly got more out of it but i ran out of straight river (havent mastered turning as yet) :cheers:

[Oz Dude]

Congrats to you sir :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Feels goooood....dunnit :D

Oz

[jarrahtin]

Congrats to you sir :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Feels goooood....dunnit :D

Oz


Now i just have to get the whole turning thing and i am good to go.....

i added a bit more weight which helped a heap. now i dont get thrown around at the sight of a ripple..... my first run i had too much boat in the water, trimmed up for the second and added about 8 MPH :D

[Oz Dude]

As you get to know the boat you will feel every part of it out and know how much to add (or subtract).

Next is learnign to wrestle it through the rough and also slide / turn. Practice young bedowan :)

Oz

[powerabout]

Guys

Is anyone making side steering steering rams ( tilt tube to wing plate ones) in OZ
or do you just buy Latham, Imco etc from the US?

Thanks

[woodduck]

Don McClymont, at Advantage Marine. Has them in skirace boats, F1 tunnels and off shore racers. 03 9555 6230

Olmo on here has some good pics of the set up. Think his setup with a plate, 2 rams and an adjustable helm (2.5 to 4 turns) runs to about $2500.00 Au.

[powerabout]

Many thanks
Olmo's photo of one looks great.
The spherical rod end on the tilt tube is a winner!

[Thewayweroll]

6 months on the steering is great no problems what so ever ,Woodduck put me in touch with Don who was great to deal with ,highly recommended.Olmo 40 (Dan) helped me fit it up when he was over here ,he has Imco single side ram on his Hydrostream which is also good ,I think it works out about the same $$$ as the locally made stuff,so id go with the dual system.IMO Imco is the pick of the US stuff .

[jarrahtin]

i have a mate who has a 2 inch crack in one of the blades of his prop. Does anybody know anybody who repairs props?
Does anybody know how much roughly it would cost?
once they have damage can they be repaired just as strong as they were or will it be likely to break again???

any info would be helpful......

[gmjim]

Theres a guy out in windsor who is sposed to be really good, i will try to find out his details for you!
I think if the prop is virgin (not thinned mainly) you should be right to have repaired.
I have a chopper which cracked & i was told by the prop guy up here that it was to thin to worry about.

[olmo40]

On these pages somewhere is a prop repair tutorial. basically drill a 1/8 hole at the end of the crack and tig weld then grind to shape.:thumbsup:

[DsturbD]

This is a friends lab he asked me to post some pics and a short story, so here it is if anyone is inerested.
It has a 97 225 EFI MERC, with late model double bearing/dual water pickup gearcase, and a fresh powerhead. Its a very tidy boat, a nice fitout with a bit of rex gear.

2 x intercom helmets in wizard bags $1050
1 x DC hydro size 9 boots in wizard bag $1250
1 x RPM firesuit $250
1 x pair neoprene wet shoes $25
1 x record buoyancy vest (not confirmed)
1 x medium race suit SRA approved $200
1 x garmin gps hand held $200
1 x holeshot $220
Various ropes and harnesses $250
Sparco drivers seat $200
23 laser prop and 23 trophy prop
Long range fuel tank

With all this gear he is asking 22k, the boat owes him well into the 30k's, with the 23 laser it has hit 78-80 mph at approx 75% throttle with 6400 packs.
With the right setup this boat should do 85-88 mph maybe touch 90.


:cheers: and all the best for Xmas and the new year.

[steelroots]

hi guys new to this site ,does anyone know what would be a good engine height for a 21 connelly with 300xs ,we just brought dave from connelly boats own race boat very light , we have put a 27 tempest on it and it cavatates and drops back in pulling up one skier not sure what height it is at the moment , anyone with an idea at a good race height for f2 and even a social height woulkd be a great help

[Thewayweroll]

Hi Mate ,

Id start with the prop shaft 2inch below the pad , The tempest is a fast prop but lacks holeshot , taking the vent plugs out will help. Id think you will need somewhere around a 28 trophy for that boat,I am on the Gold Coast and have a Chopper 2 , 30 pitch with some extra cupping you can try ,Also "Critta" on here somewhere i read has a 28 Chopper for sale , if it is the one i sold him it would probably go good on your boat as well .

Regards

Bulldog 0400796009

[dale@che]

hi guys new to this site ,does anyone know what would be a good engine height for a 21 connelly with 300xs ,we just brought dave from connelly boats own race boat very light , we have put a 27 tempest on it and it cavatates and drops back in pulling up one skier not sure what height it is at the moment , anyone with an idea at a good race height for f2 and even a social height woulkd be a great help

thats a fast boat... was very fast with the old 300x on it..

here is a couple of Pics from when Shantelle was skiing behind it at Region V last season,

http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/s1.jpg
http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/files/s2.jpg

[steelroots]

thank guys , working out what the height is today will let you know what it is the boat is on the murray at echuca goingto try quick release today see if that helps

[Calis]

dont forget the Pics for us less fortunate folks .I Just hit the send button for a new prop love that US $$$ ;)

ok some pics at last. sorry it took so long. ;)
almost done.....

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9509/img9844j.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3092/img9843.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5973/img9841e.jpg

[jarrahtin]

OK i finally had some time to filter out the Bridge to Bridge 09 pics and create somewhere to post them to be viewed.

http://www.obsessiveboating.com/index.php?option=com_igallery&view=gallery&id=6&Itemid=58

keep in mind there is only a selection at the moment if you want a team that is not listed or want a full size copy of a pic the let me know, i took about 4 pics of every boat that came through......
many beers and sorting :cheers:

[Thewayweroll]

Thats for the pics you guys !!! .What numbers does the Con run ?? I just saw an orange 21 with a 525 Brand new on boat point ?? says never used :confused: Think i need one ;)

[Calis]

Thats for the pics you guys !!! .What numbers does the Con run ?? I just saw an orange 21 with a 525 Brand new on boat point ?? says never used :confused: Think i need one ;)

Yeah they have been trying to sell that thinig for about a year now from what I've seen. first just hull and some running gear now its all decked out ready to go.
Looks nice.

[gmst2]

Great shots :thumbsup:

What's the go with the observers in a couple of the boats
sitting in the back corner of the boat?
Thought they weren't allowed to be seated behind the driver

[dale@che]

anyone else go down to the nats?

Shantelle won under 13 girls which was good, Rush didnt miss a beat which is even better!

[olmo40]

Being an adopted Aussie , Thought id let you blokes know of a sweet Hydrostream Venom with a Smokin Eric Simon motor and custom paint job in the classifieds,cheep cheep .Strong oz $$$ + cheap freight =winning ski race boat :cheers:

[Thewayweroll]

Hi Dan ,

WOW that is a smokin deal :thumbsup: My shed is full , However and there is always However , you should buy it ship it to me and i will try really really hard to sell it for you mate :D:D:D. Cant wait to catch up in june :cheers: I have driven Dans venom they are the goods !!!!!!!

Dog out :leaving:

[olmo40]

JUNE !!!! WTF You promised you wouldnt be back for 2 years :confused: Oh i forgot to tell you ive moved to Russia sorry :eek:

[gmjim]

hows the boating in russia?? Short season i'm guessing!!!!!!!

[Thewayweroll]

Anyone doin the B2B Power Boat Race ? ,He,s not in Russia just trickin i know where he lives :eek:

[olmo40]

A little bird told me you did the Gold Coast Offshore Ski race was that yesterday ??

[plasterer tim]

I wont be if you are ill tag along, pay my way, help out however i can tim

[Thewayweroll]

I think the cold russian air has frozen your brain ,That is the most ridicilous statement i have ever heard,me ski race in the ocean ha ha ha .Havent raced for 16 years spit.:reddevil: And if you arent in russia you must be smokin sometin:D:D

[Thewayweroll]

I wont be if you are ill tag along, pay my way, help out however i can tim

hey mate will or wont be there ,?? I know it is Sunday:cheers::cheers::cheers: im just tryin to sort a fast power head .

[olmo40]

Ahhhh so you did race hey ? Guessin didnt tell the Mrs hey ?? Placed also is the word over here

[Thewayweroll]

Go to wikiepedia and look up bucket mouth , she has no idea :leaving:

The Mrs kept asking me yesterday why i was so happy ,standard answer my friend .:cheers: I just told No 1 son he :D:D:D:D:D had to give the boys some time on the pole skis this arvo they kept askin why i was moving so slow .

[steelroots]

hi guys chris here with the connelly after prop help ,30 mm below 82 mph 75 below 82 mph at 6200 both times with 27 tempst, some suggested 28 trophy and even 26 or 28 pro et some thoughts or even 29 tempst as the 27 eccelerated really well

[dale@che]

probably a 28 would work better, if your social skiing with it 75 below will be better for pulling out,

a lot of the O/B guys will be able to help more than me tho

[critta]

hi guys chris here with the connelly after prop help ,30 mm below 82 mph 75 below 82 mph at 6200 both times with 27 tempst, some suggested 28 trophy and even 26 or 28 pro et some thoughts or even 29 tempst as the 27 eccelerated really well

What motor is it?
If its hitting the limiter at both depths u need a bigger prop

I've only tested with skiers on, but we went back to back with a 27 tempest and 27 trophy. At 50mm under the pad with a 110kg skier out back we got 77.5 with the tempest and 78.8 with the trophy.

Since then we've taken the motor up 20mm and a 25 tempest gets us 78.5 and a 26 trophy goes 79.8mph

I've got a 28 pro et coming and with a bit more height hoping to get 83mph

Dale, well done to Chantelle. Shes kicking arse. Do u know if shes doing the ski camp this week?

[dale@che]

pat it has a 300xs on it from memory,

she isnt going to the ski camp from memory, she had a training run yesterday and will have one later in the week..

you coming to kanahooka this weekend?? you should it is a great place to race!

[critta]

Mate, would love to be racing but going away next week and working all weekend.
We had a good run yesterday down to Brooklyn. Starting to get ready for the S80.

[dale@che]

James took her to brooklyn yesterday morning then out to windsor in the arvo LOL

we are all ready for the S80 as well.. just have to do a few little things to the boat to get it ready for the 2 up and thats about it..

[critta]

James took her to brooklyn yesterday morning then out to windsor in the arvo LOL

we are all ready for the S80 as well.. just have to do a few little things to the boat to get it ready for the 2 up and thats about it..

Im still doing most training with my mate and my eldest daughter.Last race with my mate is 1up b2b in May Then i"ll concentrate on the girls. Thats why we didn't do Nationals or Kanahooka.
Got a bigger boat coming soon, so we can play in the rough.

Does anyone know how long the social races are at the S80?

[dale@che]

what sort of boat you got coming?

[critta]

what sort of boat you got coming?

21 force, not full on race boat though

Is Dave making those new wake jumper skis? My daughter was on one of DC's old ones last week and loved it. Someone told me Dave's ski is similar to the old DC ski

[dale@che]

yeh nice,

yep he makes them, should have them in stock too

[critta]

yeh nice,

yep he makes them, should have them in stock too

do you know if he's making them all the same, or is he playing with the stiffness?

Yeah can't wait for the boat. The bullet is fun but limited to what it can do

[dale@che]

last i heard he was making all different ones with different foam and amount/type of carbon etc etc..

you got a new one coming or get a second hand one?

[steelroots]

sth 80 social races are the full race on the saturday, engine on the connelly is a 300 xs with sportsmaster box 1.175 gears thinking of trying a 29 tempst as the 27 gets there quick ,where are you getting your pro et from is it new ? what boat are you running?

[Thewayweroll]

I have a 29 Tempest in stock ,you can try and buy ,so to speak :thumbsup:

Just noticed Redcliffe, we will be there Sunday at the Jet Ski racing

[critta]

sth 80 social races are the full race on the saturday, engine on the connelly is a 300 xs with sportsmaster box 1.175 gears thinking of trying a 29 tempst as the 27 gets there quick ,where are you getting your pro et from is it new ? what boat are you running?

Im running smoc social and u13 girls social. Are they both 80km?

I prefer the Tempest to the Trophy props. Just the Trophies are a little faster for the same pitch. I reckon the 29tempest would go well.
Im getting the pro et with my new motor. ATM im running a 1800 bullet with a 250xs

Dale its in the mould now

[Calis]

nice pat so you've made a decision on a boat then? 21 force it is.... brand newy?


21 force, not full on race boat though

Is Dave making those new wake jumper skis? My daughter was on one of DC's old ones last week and loved it. Someone told me Dave's ski is similar to the old DC ski

[Calis]

"in the mould now" = new :)

[Thewayweroll]

Im running smoc social and u13 girls social. Are they both 80km?

I prefer the Tempest to the Trophy props. Just the Trophies are a little faster for the same pitch. I reckon the 29tempest would go well.
Im getting the pro et with my new motor. ATM im running a 1800 bullet with a 250xs

Dale its in the mould now


I forget the distance for u13 girls but its about 15 minutes or there abouts from memory unless they have changed it ?

[dale@che]

new boat and new motor hey! 300xs?

[steelroots]

we may have one to try but may need to buy if all goes well ,so hard with th boat in vic i have my 19 ft connelly up here with me ,pitty wont be in redcliffe this weekend would be great to catch up and meet and talk some more about these props. sth 80 smoc social is the full race uder 13 girls may not be not 100% sure but i think they go from 5 mile boat ramp the dash course will look that up ,

[critta]

I forget the distance for u13 girls but its about 15 minutes or there abouts from memory unless they have changed it ?

I've been told 8km then 20km. So 20km sounds right with 15mins

Calis, mate i ummed and arrghed for ages bout what to do. I want to do alot of offshore training so decided the Force was a better option. Plus the wife loves the Force and she has a fair bit of pull.

Dale, yeah going 300xs. Neneh will probably outski it within 12months, but i still got 2 young ones and 2 more on the way:D

[dale@che]

congrats mate! twins hey!!

my misses is due on the 10th may! getting close now!

300xs on a 21 will do 80 pretty easy.. im glad james didnt go the outboard route.. shantelle was doing 80 on the river in the rough before the nats so we would be building a new boat again!! LOL

how old is Neneh? will be looking for a new ski partner start of next season for U13's..

[Calis]

bl**dy hell two more on the way?!

"Calis, mate i ummed and arrghed for ages bout what to do"

yeah I know ya did pat :)...and in the end ya gotta go with what ya thinks gonna work best hey.... plus keepin the wifey in there involved in it ya always comes out the better. :thumbsup:

AND.... you'll be getting the force muuuuuuch faster then the SC :p

[Calis]

"plus keepin the wifey in there involved in it ya always comes out the better"

can i just say..... my sentances are atrocious tonight.... and not even one drop of alchehol :leaving:

[dale@che]

you will probably get it quicker than any of the boats out there, but you pay for it :)

[Calis]

last i heard force was 6months waiting list...is it true?

[critta]

Twins due late June. At first ultrasound got told only one then next ultrasound we're having 2 bubs.

Neneh ski's u16's. Alyssa is 11 but hasn't had much training time. I think she'll step up next season,

I don't think theres any u13 girls atm that can go as fast as Chantelle for a 2up team.

[dale@che]

probably,

6 month waiting list isnt bad tho cause you will know when it is going to get done.. its when it takes 4 months longer than it should is when you get pissed off !! LOL

[Calis]

very true dale....:p

how where the connelly boys?

[Calis]

Twins due late June. At first ultrasound got told only one then next ultrasound we're having 2 bubs.

Neneh ski's u16's. Alyssa is 11 but hasn't had much training time. I think she'll step up next season,

I don't think theres any u13 girls atm that can go as fast as Chantelle for a 2up team.


wow and Im freakin out even thinking of my first!!!:o

[dale@che]

Twins due late June. At first ultrasound got told only one then next ultrasound we're having 2 bubs.

Neneh ski's u16's. Alyssa is 11 but hasn't had much training time. I think she'll step up next season,

I don't think theres any u13 girls atm that can go as fast as Chantelle for a 2up team.

get Alyssa out there training, she dosent have to run as hard but if she can run 70+ for the bridge next year then that will do for the record,

twins will keep you on your toes.. i was worried we would have twins but definatly only one in there!

[dale@che]

very true dale....:p

how where the connelly boys?

they were slow but i knew that would be the case, ive known them for a long time and know what they work like, from memory it was 6 weeks late but the total time was only 12 weeks from start to finish.

James got a little ****ty that it took so long but the finished product is spot on. the flow coat on the floor is perfectly done and the price was very right.. they did a great job on the extras like the moulded dash and windscreen etc...

[critta]

last i heard force was 6months waiting list...is it true?

Depends which hull u want. I think its 9months on the 21 now, but u could get a 24ft straight away. I was very lucky that someone pulled out and i got their spot.

Dale as far as money goes, there was a $3500 difference between the Superclass and Force. I priced them up with exactly the same base features. Its only when u start putting the force options in that the price blows out. Not sure what the Connelly hull is worth but the SC was $24500 and Force was $28000

[dale@che]

is that trimmed or just bare hull and seat shells?

the connelly would be a bit cheaper for a light weight with ballast etc

[Calis]

so pat the force will be a social/training boat?... are you going through force for upholstry fitout etc or going direct to someone yourself

[Calis]

errrr. dale reading my mind = strange sensation :confused:

:D

[dale@che]

hahaha great minds think alike!

[Calis]

ok ok ... so Im calculating pats situation here....
4 kids (soon), 2 boats?, pets? other hobbies?

dude....hope you have some serious space to live in :eek: :D

[dale@che]

hes got 3 kids already!! 2 more on the way!!
he still has his RX3 drag car as well!!

[Calis]

they were slow but i knew that would be the case, ive known them for a long time and know what they work like, from memory it was 6 weeks late but the total time was only 12 weeks from start to finish.

James got a little ****ty that it took so long but the finished product is spot on. the flow coat on the floor is perfectly done and the price was very right.. they did a great job on the extras like the moulded dash and windscreen etc...

cool! if the finished product is right ya dont mind some time slippage.

[dale@che]

exactly, we wanted it for sydney bridge but just ran out of time

[Calis]

hes got 3 kids already!! 2 more on the way!!
he still has his RX3 drag car as well!!

ROFL!! ok correction. 5 kids! and hence I added the "other hobbies" just incase. So other hobbies = drag car.... you prob have seven dogs as well or something hey pat? LOL.

ok, time for bed with my 1 wife and 9 concubines :thumbsup:

[dale@che]

same here.
1 wife, 3/4 baby, 3 dogs and a drag car LOL

[Calis]

guys thats both hilarious and cool all at once..

I gotta work on some kids and some pets...... from different sources of course....:p

My sister just got a dog and is trying for kids. Dogs goanna be more human then the kid for many years. At least she'll be more chilled once the kid comes.

[critta]

so pat the force will be a social/training boat?... are you going through force for upholstry fitout etc or going direct to someone yourself

Boat is a lightweight race hull setup. We've just added a few small things to make it a little more social. We could of gone lighter but then u can't walk on the deck or outboard well such as Tuff e Nuff and Alien Force.

Its pretty much setup as a race/training boat for my kids. If they decide in a year or 2 they want to go faster then i'll go inboard.

Yeah Force are doing the whole package. Boat will be ready mid April.

Dale that price includes std fitout with front seats(no rear)
RX3 has been on stands since jambo 08. Neneh says she wants to race it, so i'll store it till then. Gotta say ski racing with your kids is alot more fun.

[dale@che]

nice stuff Pat,

yep skiing in general is more fun that drag racing.. im looking foward to getting back out there with my car tho.. its been at the painters for almost 12 months.. getting it back next week tho...

we have been having some great times up the river laitly tho!

[jarrahtin]

Critta,
So your saying your brand new 21ft force only set you back 28K and change????? that sounds too cheep for a Force

[Calis]

Maybe minus the trailer cost?
My SC hull was $23500 before the price hike. that was with bucket shells, ballest pumps, rear lounge shell I think, swim steps, prob some other things I cant rememer. too long ago now hehe.

but lets face it thats just the start, thats without any hardware really.

[Thewayweroll]

Sounds like a lot of good value there :thumbsup: Try an Everingham at $55k ish :eek: with no motor.

[dale@che]

thats only bare hull and front seats...

no rigging, no trailer, no motor etc etc...

[jarrahtin]

thats only bare hull and front seats...

no rigging, no trailer, no motor etc etc...


:eek:
Way to shatter my hopes of ever affording a force.......:(

[dale@che]

i thought i would ring Pat for a bit of a chat this morning.. 40min later we get off the phone LOL

Pats got him self a nice rig coming soon cant wait to see it! :)

[Calis]

LOL....well there would be alot to cover with the new boat, 5 kids, drag car, 7 dogs, wife and all

;)

[Calis]

Spent a few hours at Marineline yesterday getting upholstery designs sorted on the boat with the guys.
Now just gotta wait another month :mad:
but it will be worth it.

[jarrahtin]

Well, i have managed to get Monday off work giving me a 4 day weekend up the river, :cheers:.
fingers crossed nobody else has the same idea and i will have the river to myself on monday :cool:

[Calis]

crap you just reminded me I have to do the same!! :thumbsup:

[critta]

i thought i would ring Pat for a bit of a chat this morning.. 40min later we get off the phone LOL

Pats got him self a nice rig coming soon cant wait to see it! :)

Dale, I got down to the ski camp and spent the arvo towing kids up and down the river in a nice 19ft Force:cheers:

I reckon the river is going to be chockers this weekend and heaps of jelly blubbers upto Leetesvale

[jarrahtin]

crap you just reminded me I have to do the same!! :thumbsup:

at least there is one in the same boat.......
most the people on here sound like they work for themselves cause they seem to hit the river whenever they like

[dale@che]

yep i work for my self but usually too busy during the week but will hit it up on saturday arvo!

[gmjim]

Ahhhhh, the 'self employed' dream........
i wish!!!

[dale@che]

it has its good points and its bad points... if it gets quite then there is no money...

[Calis]

you guys seen this 4-stroke Honda racingin the UK?... looks hectic!!.
Saw it posted elsewhere on here. Dont see much racing like that over here.

Short vid
http://www.f4sa.com/f4sa_video.swf (http://www.f4sa.com/f4sa_video.swf)

Longer vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePzKpqMuORw&feature=player_embedded#

[olmo40]

talk about amatuer hour .

[Thewayweroll]

Havnt the AOPC got a 150 suzuki / haines class also ??

[Calis]

Havnt the AOPC got a 150 suzuki / haines class also ??

yeah something like that mate.

Looks like you could get ya self easly killed by the way they are driving those things in the vid! :eek:
Makes for good TV though.

[dale@che]

hey Pat,

got my car back from the painters... got it going back together now.. for some reason i cant wait for it to be back together!

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[critta]

Dale , nice :thumbsup:
But where do u attach the ski ropes:D

how did Chantelle go at Kanahooka?

We had a good run on Australia day. On the water at 6.30am, put in 200km

[dale@che]

she went really well, running in with the boys she came 3rd, but only by about 1m, she hit 81mph..

[critta]

she went really well, running in with the boys she came 3rd, but only by about 1m, she hit 81mph..

Good stuff, She should have a go in next offshore training run!!

We got Neneh upto 80mph 1up and 2up they sat on a solid 75.

Is Chantelle doing Region V this weekend? We're on holidays, girls aren't happy that their missing out

[dale@che]

yep she is skiing behind gun it this weekend

[Thewayweroll]

Can anyone direct me to where i can buy the fittings to install an underdeck Ballast tank in my Bullet ,i have the tank , i need the pick up bit for the transom and thinking i will dual bilge pump it out ??.

[Calis]

Hey mate how big is the tank?. I have two pumps but the tanks split in two and one spills over to the next. Both sections have a pump. My tank in total is 280lts I think maybe bigger.

And which fittings are you needing? for the tank, outlets, piping, all of it?

We put the tige pickup on mine I think it was. Force use them as well. Its around $700 I think but supposedly the bee's knees. You can see one on the back of this Force. Sorry I dont have a pic of mine.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5889/yellowforce.jpg

[Thewayweroll]

Thanks mate , Thats the bit i was looking for ,so i have to put a wakeboard boat accessory on my Bullet mmm, will have a look on the Tige web site .My Ballast is only 100L remembering my 1850 is a pup compared to your boat.I can figure everything else out i think .

[Calis]

yeah no worries. The tige website is pretty crap, only half of it seems to work at times with most links broken. I've tried finding info on the pickiup off of thier site and around the net with no real luck. Got most of my info from Danny who sourced it and rigged up my boat.
Im sure he'd sort you out if you are after one.

[Thewayweroll]

Thanks calis ,i am after one , wasnt expecting $700 ish ,might keep looking a bit .

Just a note i am going to sell an as new 9/10 Mercury racing Tempest Prop 29 Pitch or consider trade to a smaller pitch 27/28 Trophy or ??? .The Tempest is one of the fastest props boat only you can buy .$450 .I have too many big props and need something to cruise around with when my Kids use the boat.The prop runs 85mph at about 6100 on my 1850 with a stoch efi 200 Merc , it cruises at about 75 mph at 5400rpm .

[dale@che]

Graham mason will make a pickup I'll find out how much

[Thewayweroll]

That would be great Thanks ,

[Calis]

Thanks calis ,i am after one , wasnt expecting $700 ish ,might keep looking a bit .

Just a note i am going to sell an as new 9/10 Mercury racing Tempest Prop 29 Pitch or consider trade to a smaller pitch 27/28 Trophy or ??? .The Tempest is one of the fastest props boat only you can buy .$450 .I have too many big props and need something to cruise around with when my Kids use the boat.The prop runs 85mph at about 6100 on my 1850 with a stoch efi 200 Merc , it cruises at about 75 mph at 5400rpm .

The tempest sounds good mate, I"ll get back to you about it tomorrow as im after something like that.

Grahame does good work no doubt he can knock you up something awsome as dale suggested.
Prob still cost around $400 -$500 or full stainless + labour. Maybe, dunno.....

[Thewayweroll]

All Good , watching 3 boats skirace training here in the rain .

[Calis]

rain = ouch!

[Calis]

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Bravo I maybe?......

[Calis]

Dale, great pic of Rush on front of http://letstalkskiracing.com/
nice one...

[dale@che]

thanks that looks tops :)

all ready for southern 80 now

[Calis]

anyone reckon this millenium could actually do 90mph as this add states:
http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Marine/Power/Power-Boats/AdNumber=TP003211397?BackToResult=true&AdOnTop=

[dale@che]

i doubt it... 21ft with 280 hp would do 80 i reckon.. even with 300xs a good 21ft will only do 83-84

[Thewayweroll]

Its a neat looking boat just up the river from me havent seen it before .My mates Millunium with a 3L 225 26 Trophy does 73mph flat out .They are a lot smaller over all than a Superclass ?? If it was a light weight ? maybe ??So it would need to spin my 30 Chopper2 to 6500rpm or there abouts ??

Olmo40s 280hp on his Hydrostream, 20 odd ft i think did about 105mph or so ??? :confused:

[dale@che]

anyone been down the river this weekend? if you do dont take you boat.. the water is up a few meters and flowing very very fast...

went up another 6in last night...

[critta]

anyone been down the river this weekend? if you do dont take you boat.. the water is up a few meters and flowing very very fast...

went up another 6in last night...

I was just about to head down to Brooklyn for a run up to Wisemans. Ahh well will just go and pick up skis and check out the river.

THat Millenium would probably do 90, but would need a big prop, no skiers and perfect conditions.
I've spoken to a few of the smoc guys that run boat only 90's

[steelroots]

just ran our new boat (dave turners old one) we got 81 mph two up with a 28 pro et at echuca not bad for a 21 ft will try to get more out of it though

[dale@che]

81 2 up is smoking, what class you running in next weekend?

we will be down there will come say hello

the new Dana HP1100 trim tabs arrived as well, going to fit them up this week :)

[critta]

just ran our new boat (dave turners old one) we got 81 mph two up with a 28 pro et at echuca not bad for a 21 ft will try to get more out of it though

Is that with the 300x?

Just got back from Wisemans Ferry. Geezuz theres some **** in the water, but there were still a few maniacs skiing. They said a live cow drifted past yesterday:eek:

[dale@che]

think it has a 300xs on it now

[steelroots]

running f2 on sunday, womens social on saturday and tadpoles on saturday arvo ,macca driving all except womens my brother going to give it a go , i may have met yoiu before as i observed for macca at region v in 2008 and we won boat driver and observer high points ,towing brock mcmillian in tadpoles shold be fun weekend

[critta]

think it has a 300xs on it now

Nice!!

Looking forward to getting my 28et for the bullet

[Calis]

Is that with the 300x?

Just got back from Wisemans Ferry. Geezuz theres some **** in the water, but there were still a few maniacs skiing. They said a live cow drifted past yesterday:eek:


yikes! cows are bad in the water man. dead or alive.
I thankfully missed collecting up a dead cow by a few feet during a race. it was caught up in a tree floating down the river at raymond terrace. :eek:

[dale@che]

i wouldnt have been up there in 2008 :)

with that speed you should go pretty good in F2

[Calis]

just ran our new boat (dave turners old one) we got 81 mph two up with a 28 pro et at echuca not bad for a 21 ft will try to get more out of it though

gotta be happy with that!. how big are the skiers? light I would imagine...

[dale@che]

anyone got tabs on there boats??

how have you mounted them? flat or on the same plane as the V??

[Calis]

nup, but I think typically they are mounted on the same plane as the v...
with that said i think I've seen a more flat setup but depends on outboard, inboard, and length of the tabs I would imagine. there is also how high from the bottom of the boat.
thats all I know really..

[steelroots]

one skier about 80-85 kg the other about 90 ,boat alone was 86 mph so they didnt wash off that much, had about 90 lt of fuel on board also we might set it back with some spacers and see if we get some more out of it as it is a 6 inch jacking plate might get another one or two mph who knows

[dale@che]

yeh some boats have them flat and others on the same plane as the V, it seems to be after reading a lot on OSO that on the same plane as the V will give more control but rob more speed but flat will give slightly better control at high speeds and less drag...

so im a little stuck which way to mount them and everyone we speak to has a different idea..

[Calis]

nice, thats pretty good..

yeah 8" setback might pull a few mph more....

[Calis]

yeh some boats have them flat and others on the same plane as the V, it seems to be after reading a lot on OSO that on the same plane as the V will give more control but rob more speed but flat will give slightly better control at high speeds and less drag...

so im a little stuck which way to mount them and everyone we speak to has a different idea..

yeah its tough cause I know ya dont want to be dilling any more holes in that beautiful new transom then needed but it might just come down to trying a few mounitng positions.

so it may be a case of do you need them or do you need them on now? *shrugs*

[Calis]

dales got the posting trigger finger tonight....hehe

[dale@che]

hahah yep trigger finger is a little happy!! LOL

we need them on there now, at slower speeds it is a little bouncy, once above 80 it is pretty good, with the S80 running 2 up im guessing the speeds will be around mid 70's so they will help a lot.

[Calis]

haha fair enough well you have the HP to not worry to much about speed at the moment yeah and doing the S80 the more boat controt the better... so I would be inclined to mount em on the plane of the V and go from there...

but thats am unedumecated answer:p

[dale@che]

after reading this post on OSO i think flat is the go! it makes perfect sence now.. to maintain the control and keep the speed flat is the go,




you ever snowski?
how'd you learn to stop?

didn't you learn to snowplow with the skis tucked in towards each other?

Let's consider an extreme..
What happens when you mount the tabs VERTICAL and put them "down"?
You snowplow, right?

So if you go from vertical (fully snowplowing)
to horizontal (no snowplowing), then you can see that the more you stray from horizontal, the more snowplow effect you will have when you tab below neutral.

When tabs are mounted at a matching angle to the deadrise, and you run them neutral, then there is no snowplow, there is just additional "hull length". This is useful. But when you have to run them below neutral, you start snowplowing.

There are arguments both ways. I guess the real answer depends on how much tab you need to run at racing speeds.
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[Calis]

nice post and makes sense .... and in thinking about it in a chine walk sor porpousing senario flat would be the go cause water is flat and the tabs are also flat so that stabilization would be most effective........

im feeling more edumecated already! :p

pity its tough to really simulate these things

[dale@che]

yep it is hard to think which way is right. on the rc boats i used to race we always mounted them on the V, but we ran wide but short tabs not thin long ones LOL

[steelroots]

any you guys heard of hydromotive props ? few guys in the rigging and setup forums belive that a 28iv ob might be a better prop than a pro et any thoughts

[Thewayweroll]

Yep ,I dont think the Q/OB, the Q/OT maybe similar ? I had a 26 Q OT which pulled 2 skiers to 77mph at the limiter 200 EFI Merc 1850 lw Bullet ,I had a 29 Q OB which was ok ,but i found my 29 Tempest a better prop .I ordered a 28 T4x which is lost in space at present .Hydromotive are Good props ,If my T4X turns up i will let you know .I am not sure you will do better than what you got now,with the exception of a Chopper 2 cupped up around the blade tips .Just my 2c worth.

[steelroots]

what prop is a tx4 is that a turbo prop ? happy with what we are doing at the moment ,the f2 boat that won sth 80 last year does the same speed and is a 19 force so they say

[Thewayweroll]

The T4X is a Hydromotive 4 blade over hub prop,I havent run one yet ,I doubt they would carry the Con like your Pro Et.

[dale@che]

ok tabs all mounted up, after speaking to a few people today with 120mph Connellys we were advised to put them on the same angle as the V, so thats how they got done...

will get some more pics tomorrow :) the first one is the drilling jig the Connelly boys lent us :)

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[Calis]

HAHA cool. V it is then..... :rolleyes:

nice looking tabs they are ...yes (in my best yoda voice)

[dale@che]

****ty pics tho!! LOL

ill get some pics of them bolted to the boat tomorrow, trim pumps will be in tomorrow as well...

[jarrahtin]

****ty pics tho!! LOL

ill get some pics of them bolted to the boat tomorrow, trim pumps will be in tomorrow as well...

Do you have an ETA on this bad boy......... when are we going to see it fly by......... H120??

[dale@che]

we have been racing it since the first GP meet, its going to the S80 this weekend,

[jarrahtin]

we have been racing it since the first GP meet, its going to the S80 this weekend,

LOL, shows how much i pay attention.
i am heading down to watch i'll keep an eye out, good luck

What class are you racing

[dale@che]

its running in sub Jnr Girls

[critta]

its running in sub Jnr Girls

Hey Dale, where are you staying?
We're at holiday inn Euchua

[Thewayweroll]

Pat ,

never ever reveal your accommodation location ,at races like S80, and Grafton ,ive heard of unscruplious teams cancelling your accommodation and then re booking under their own name ,I will tell you over a :cheers: one day.
:leaving:

it wasnt me :reddevil:

[critta]

Pat ,

never ever reveal your accommodation location ,at races like S80, and Grafton ,ive heard of unscruplious teams cancelling your accommodation and then re booking under their own name ,I will tell you over a :cheers: one day.
:leaving:

it wasnt me :reddevil:

If thats the case there's some real big uckwits out there.
I thought i left all the uckwits at the dragstrip

[Thewayweroll]

Back in 1992 , a big time MOC team from Sydney took a disliking to me ,It was a case of mistaken identity ,they mistook me for someone who owed them money about $80,3 of these guys bailed me up at the Gold Coast Classic , and demanded money ,matching jackets and all,then proceeded to tell me pay up or get a beating ,Id never seen these guys before ,however id had 21 Pro Kickboxing / Boxing fights ,Ski racing was a sport that was easier on the body .Lets just say an evil friend of mine looked up their accommodation every year at Grafton for about 3 years and cancelled it and we re booked it ,we used to sit out the front and wait for them .They never appologised or said another word to me for years to come,even when over of their crew said you guys should say sorry to "Bulldog ' they said F,him.I still laught about it when i take a leak in the middle of the night :D:D:D.

[dale@che]

ill send you a PM Pat :)

[critta]

Geez Bulldog, your an evil phucker;)

[dale@che]

lucky we started the boat before heading to Echuca... the drive on the water pump snapped in half.. so instead of getting up at 5 and driving to Echuca we are getting up at 5 and driving to Newcastle to Argo to get a new shaft... not happy

[Calis]

Ouch tough break mate feel for ya. For the pump but mainly for the extra driving!!

[dale@che]

its a pain in the ass... it will only take me 20min to put it all back together but i had to pull half the motor apart to get the broken piece out of the front of the cam..

[GTRMick]

I was out on the hawkesbury on Saturday for a social ski. Was having a wonderful day, the whole river was like glass and there really wasn't too much rubbish in the water. The water police has a 20+ ft RIB out with 3 officers on it and a PWC doing checks of the boats there. (There were 3 trailers in the Windsor ramp car park, so not many).
They were conducting breath tests of drivers, observers and skiers, whic I am all for but I'm not sure doing this on a rainy day when 3 bots are out with 4 police offers and 2 craft is an efficient use of my tax dollars but that's another story.
Anyway, they did a check for safety equipment and informed me that a fine will be in the mail. They tried to tell me the boat (lightweight Bullet 1850) carries 5 people, so I need to carry 5 lifejackets. Which is wrong, I only need one for each person in the boat. He also tried to tell me that my bouyancy suit doesn't count.
The other thing that really upset me was, when he signalled for me to pul over, he came towards me at at least 5-6mph. I leaned over and pushed his boat away and he was angry because he pushed him off. When I advised him that I would rather he not hit me (especially at that speed), his response was "it's only rubber".
Anyway...does anyone seriously carry an anchor, bucket, whistle, torch and oar in their lightweight ski/race boat. What am I ever going to do with an anchor (except punch a hole in the side of the hull?). I'm all for safety but come on...what do I need a bucket for when I have 2 bilge pumps and a fire extinguisher?

[Calis]

Yeah dont you just love those random pull overs.

It is a pain to carry all that stuff, anchor especially, but unfortuantely they will be D**K's about it but I consider an anchor something I always carry to keep em off my back. :rolleyes: Some people create an anchor box and glass to the floor or bolt to keep that thing in place and out of the way. I must say though I've had a number of situations where Im glade I had an anchor on board. But as you say its a pain in the neck with smaller boats.

Now....I've also heard it said that you need to carry the same number of jackets for the number of people on the safety label of your boat but that is just plain BS!!!

Take a look at the latest safety campaign on the Maritime website on jackets:

http://www.maritime.nsw.gov.au/campaigns/lifejacket.html

All they say is:
How many lifejackets do I need on board?

You need one lifejacket for every person on board. Make sure that they are stamped with the Australian Standards logo and are in good condition and accessible.


The boating handbook also says the same thing and there is no mention of requirement to carry as many jackets as maximum capacity stated on the safety label. If so that would mean if you go for a blap by yourself you'll need 5 odd jackets in the boat. :p

I would dispute that one for sure.

Oh and another thing I do is keep a copy of the boating handbook in the boat so I can pull it out and make them find the sh*t they are try ing to tell me in it. They HATE it...hehehe.

[Thewayweroll]

I find the Water Police and their actions are a discrace in QLD as well ,I videod an incident on Australia Day where they wrongly abused my son threatened to impound his boat and called him every name under the sun ,these dicks thought he was speeding in a 6 knot area ,when they realised they were wrong as the area had been moved, they did a power turn beside him and sped off .I have put in 2 calls with no reply to discuss the video ,thinking current affair .However i do carry the required safety gear in my 1850 LW Bullet .

[jimnello]

It sucks but rules are rules. I know a guy that carry's a folding anchor (holds it down with bungy loops) and a folding bucket. Rule just says that you have to have them, not the type.

[Calis]

Yeah see thats just s**thouse behaviour.
Why do they need to be such wankers. Its just power trippin cause if you really love boating you woudlnt treat fellow boaters like that.

I understand them razzing someone for out right dangerous and reckless behaviour which puts peoples life at risk but thats about it.

The guys who tend to be decent are the ones that when they pull you over they are actually intersted in your boat and your day and understand inspections are just formalities but ultimately we are all there to do the same thing. ENJOY BOATING. :D

no doubt revenue building puts pressure on these guys to "fine, fine, fine!!".

[jarrahtin]

i carry a tiny fold up thing that couldnt hold the boat to save its life....... and the location the water builds up in my 1750 is behind the fuel tank so a bucket is flat out useless......... but i suppose the rules are there for a reason. i tend to carry all of my required jackets up the nose, however the jackets are so old and sh#tty they would prob assist in sinking more than floating but they are there for water police not for use. if we have anyone who is a week swimmer or a young kid, generally they wear there own jacket.

we are only ever in the smooth flat river, no 6 foot swell here so a lot of the so called saftey equipment i find is either not needed or we now have a better method of covering that saftey measure they should be reviewing the rules to cover.

[Calis]

its a pain in the ass... it will only take me 20min to put it all back together but i had to pull half the motor apart to get the broken piece out of the front of the cam..


dale did you run on the weekend? I couldnt see the boat in the final results.

[dale@che]

yeh mate had some more water/fuel pump issues and James turned it off 8 min into the race.

bit of a **** of a weekend but had fun getting on the cans.. lol

[Calis]

the joys of racing hey! lol

from what I've heard it was a pretty eventful weekend with the bloke getting killed and then like seven odd injuries?

interesting to finally see the force boats taking the top places....

[dale@che]

yep thats racing!

yep very eventfull weekend,
Cropper and Vardy were very lucky when there boat went up the bank.. they would have run sub 30min too..

there will be footage from that one as well as they found the vid cam smashed to pieces and got the card out of it when they rolled the boat back up the right way.

[Calis]

yeah I heard about the Syndicate. Total stuffed isnt it?
would love to see that footage.
I used to ski with Vardy years ago in 6ltr beind the old Moonshine.

[jarrahtin]

yeah I heard about the Syndicate. Total stuffed isnt it?
would love to see that footage.
I used to ski with Vardy years ago in 6ltr beind the old Moonshine.

i heard something like the rudder broke and sent it shooting up the bank pretty far. they are soooo lucky no one was killed

[dale@che]

yep its finished, tore the bottom out of the boat, its a shame as they worked so hard and had the pace to smash the record

very very lucky, he said the rudder went between him and Cropper and before he knew it he was getting pulled up the bank, he hit a tree pretty hard but was not injured

on a better note James spoke to Argo this morning and they are sending a guy around today to have a look and sort out why we had these problems :)

[Calis]

crap! yeah I've heard you can go up the bank pretty easy at the S80, let alone having the boat take you there and I cant even imagine hitting a tree on my ski like that.

[gmjim]

Quick question for the sydney guys, what is the best shop down there for rigging & fittings, etc?

[Calis]

gmjim I think we'll all have a different answer for that one mate :)

I just pm'd you.

[jarrahtin]

incase you havent seen them yet the results are up for the Southern 80

http://www.southern80.com.au/Downloads/2010/results/2010s80Final%20%20results%20%20class%20order.pdf

Hellrazor broke the record and looked very impressive doing it

[dale@che]

Quick question for the sydney guys, what is the best shop down there for rigging & fittings, etc?

do you want to rig it your self or someone else to rig it?

[gmjim]

Thanks calis, i will give him a call.
I was hoping to rig myself, just looking for something better than the standard issue sierra or bla fittings etc.
I'm in sydney the rest of this week so i thought i might check a few places or people out!!!
Also, can you guys recommend any good baot yards for 2nd hand fast boats?

[dale@che]

Cassall marine on the way to windsor have a lot of stuff. including rex and dana gear, i buy a lot from there, he supplies most builders in sydney and if he dosent have it he can get it no problems at all

[gmjim]

That sounds sweet, i will be going to south windsor to pick up some props anyway, so that is a definite stop off, any good boat yards out there??

[dale@che]

Cassall are on Windsor rd on the right before you get to bunnings. you will turn left at bunnings to go to south windsor,

no real good boat yards out there, only blakes marine i think it is

[gmjim]

Thanks, i really appreciate how helpful you guys are!!

[Calis]

Cassells are good as dale says.

might want to check this out first then give em a call : http://www.cassellmarine.com.au/

they are the only place I could think of sending anyone for parts etc. pity Aus doesnt have a market big enough to support more guys like this.

as far as second hand go fast boats what are you after? aint many great dealers out there, best to keep your ear to the ground with blokes on here in ski racing and the like and keep on www.boatpoint.com.au (http://www.boatpoint.com.au) , www.boatsales.com.au (http://www.boatsales.com.au) , and www.boatsonline.com.au (http://www.boatsonline.com.au) as well.

Vic ski racing website seems to have alot go through it as well:

http://www.waterskiracing.com/classifieds.html

Seems that finding the best deals are usually through word of mouth as things come up.

[gmjim]

Thanks mate, i am chasing a firefly of all things, a bit older than the smick stuff you guys are playing with, & hard to find these days, i am on to one in melbourne (if it is still avaialble?) through bullshot who gets on here, but i am struggling to find suitable transport for it, & the girl just won't allow me to drive down & get it!! (Uderstandably, i guess, it is a long way to drive!!!!!!) Also had another lined up in sydney, but it was sold before i got there. Anyway, one will turn up eventually, i just like to look around when i go to sydney or brissy, it's worth it just to see what is around!
I also quite like the matra missile hulls!!!

Your not wrong about the lack of quality marine retailers in Aus, i went to my 'local' merc dealer today, i was quoted $48.00 for a part that retails for $8.50 in the U.S.!!!!

I checked out the Cassell web page, it looks exactly like the type of place i am looking for!

[jarrahtin]

Your not wrong about the lack of quality marine retailers in Aus, i went to my 'local' merc dealer today, i was quoted $48.00 for a part that retails for $8.50 in the U.S.!!!!

I checked out the Cassell web page, it looks exactly like the type of place i am looking for!

keeping in mind the only advantage of a place like cassell's is you get to look at the item before you buy....... if you already know what it is you want then importing is always going to be cheeper (but longer). i have been known to go to Cassell's to view the rex gear and then import from Rex

[dale@che]

the problem with that is if everyone brought gear in from the states then shops like cassall's would go broke..

[jarrahtin]

the problem with that is if everyone brought gear in from the states then shops like cassall's would go broke..

Yeah i suppose they need to make a profit but you have to agree sometimes the mark up is a little over the top

[dale@che]

sometimes it probably is but i deal with importing stuff from the states from time to time and it is a massive head ****,

[typhoon]

The problem with the local marine retailers is they largely deserve to go broke.
They mark up 200% commonly, anyone who pays it out of some misguided patriotism is not quite right in the head.
Fact is, they buy stuff through importers, the importer AND the retailer double the price each time. If they brought in their own gear direct, they'd actually have decent prices.
Not importing directly is pure laziness, no more, no less. I know, I've worked in small marine business that import directly.
So, why should Australian consumers support lazy business people with poor or non existent business models, when we can import directly ourselves?
Why should we care if someone's business model is fundamentally flawed, and why should we be made to feel bad if they have to stop trading? I didn't force them to start selling products, nor did I choose their pricing formulas....
Business is very simple, compete, lead or go under.

Regards, Andrew.

[Calis]

you've probably seen this already, incase you havent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phxvih2UR4s

[gmjim]

I got back home tonight guys, cassells was good, they have a really good range of gear, their marked prices are a bit more than their online prices, but they looked after me pretty good! It was good to actually be able to see & touch the gear before purchasing, thats a bit rare for me up here.
Also found my new boat, just got to talk the Mrs into it!!!!!!!!

And just incase anyone was wondering, AC/DC was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

[olmo40]

Dont tell the Mrs ,Rule 1 , seeing AC/DC Thursday is Brisbane i think ???

[Calis]

I got back home tonight guys, cassells was good, they have a really good range of gear, their marked prices are a bit more than their online prices, but they looked after me pretty good! It was good to actually be able to see & touch the gear before purchasing, thats a bit rare for me up here.
Also found my new boat, just got to talk the Mrs into it!!!!!!!!

And just incase anyone was wondering, AC/DC was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!


so what boat is it??? :D
dont worry we wont buy it ;)

[dash]

I think the main issue is Globalisation. 10-15 years ago it was very hard to find info and or parts. Now you just "Google it" find the product then most of the time you can enter CC details and then it arrives at your door, sometimes with out even a phone call. This process cuts out all the middle men and saves $$. It just depends on what your comforatble with. Some people just like to go to a shop, touch it, see it, feel it and get advice on how to use it or fit it then pay more for that personal experiance. And some guys just sit on the net researching their needs and then buy it online.

[Calis]

dale....
stop holidng out on us and post some of those pics of the hot chicks sitting on Rush down at the S80 parade.......:D.......:p........

[jarrahtin]

dale....
stop holidng out on us and post some of those pics of the hot chicks sitting on Rush down at the S80 parade.......:D.......:p........

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

[Calis]

oh... and picking up my boat from Marineline tomorrow.
fitout is done!

bl00dy excited :D

pics coming soon.

[dale@che]

dale....
stop holidng out on us and post some of those pics of the hot chicks sitting on Rush down at the S80 parade.......:D.......:p........

hahaha here you go mate :)


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[mercules1750]

nice lookin pics dale its gotta be worth more now also those props any luck old mates keeps hittin me up if i have heard anything he might be more willing to neg let me no if u still keen cheeers kev

[dale@che]

hey kev,

how neg is he?? got to spend some good $$$ of them getting them cut and stuff. thats the prob..

[Calis]

see that wasnt to hard wast it.....

thanks mate!!

:D:D:D:D

[Calis]

new trailer??

[gmjim]

I found two boats actually, The firefly i have been searching for, but it is not for sale, & the other that caught my eye is a 21' connelly that i have no hope of affording yet! Oh well, thems the breaks!!!!

Nice photos!!!!!!
Not sure if the boat or the girls look better!!!!!
rush looks wicked, hope to see it racing one day. are you going to race in grafton?

[dale@che]

same trailer... just got my wheels off my car trailer on it..

yes will definatly be at Grafton later this year. will be doing H120, Sydney and Grafton Bridges, S80, not doing the other murry races tho.. will hopefully be doing the world selection races as well :)

[dale@che]

how much is the connelly going for?

[gmjim]

$42000.

[dale@che]

how old and what engine??

[Thewayweroll]

I found two boats actually, The firefly i have been searching for, but it is not for sale, & the other that caught my eye is a 21' connelly that i have no hope of affording yet! Oh well, thems the breaks!!!!

Nice photos!!!!!!
Not sure if the boat or the girls look better!!!!!
rush looks wicked, hope to see it racing one day. are you going to race in grafton?

Mate ,

I will pick you up on the way thru to Grafton this year , Dont tell you Mrs :D,
We will prop up in Dales boat with those good lookin sheilas shhhhhhh .My Mrs wont ever know im gone :thumbsup: We will need Super Soakers for the street pde ,it will make it easier for us to get arrested ,at the police station we can sign the grunt grunt copper ----- song ,whooop dinners is ready :leaving:

[gmjim]

You know, that sounds remarkebly close to how me 'bachelor' weekends seem to end up!!!
I'm keen as!
Unfortunately she knows what W/E grafton is on, she would suss us out in no time, i reckon we need to find a more obscure race weekend somewhere, maybe bundy thunder?????

Dale, the connelly is a 2003 model i think with a fresh 300x, you prolly know it, it is called Thirsty Merc, i saw it somewhere once, i have liked it since. Has just popped up on ebay recently, try this link.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Connelly-21-300x-Merc_W0QQitemZ140385215234QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Boats?hash=item20af9c6302

[dale@che]

nice looking rig that, that will be a Tricker made boat made just before good 2 go was made,

good price for what it has with the fresh motor and Hyd jack plate etc

[mercules1750]

hey kev,

how neg is he?? got to spend some good $$$ of them getting them cut and stuff. thats the prob..


i will try and feel him out tommorow just so hard as u no trying to deal with him thru email maybe throw me a offer i can only pass it on but either way ill let u no

[Thewayweroll]

You know, that sounds remarkebly close to how me 'bachelor' weekends seem to end up!!!
I'm keen as!
Unfortunately she knows what W/E grafton is on, she would suss us out in no time, i reckon we need to find a more obscure race weekend somewhere, maybe bundy thunder?????

Dale, the connelly is a 2003 model i think with a fresh 300x, you prolly know it, it is called Thirsty Merc, i saw it somewhere once, i have liked it since. Has just popped up on ebay recently, try this link.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Connelly-21-300x-Merc_W0QQitemZ140385215234QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Boats?hash=item20af9c6302

Or Catalina ???? Nice looking Con :thumbsup:

[Calis]

this one looks pretty clean also gmjim, and cheaper!:
http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=8109852

but this boat looks vaugly familiar for the year (1993). Robos had one this colour which they flipped trainging out sydney heads in the 90's sometime. My mate ended up buying it and repairing it but couldnt get used to the connelly over his 21 bullet so got rid of it. hmmm...although it says "never been raced". Serviced by Ziggy....