21' Stallion Hull

[rowdy1]

Has anyone ever heard of a "Stallion hull" ? Its 21', closed bow & looks kinda like a Superboat or maybe a Rally Sport, but does not have a pad in the back & has very little freeboard (set up for a single outboard). I found one in Ocala that needs stringers & a floor for $1500 with a trailer. It looks like it could be fast, but I am looking for a little input before I buy. THANKS

[specboatops]

Has anyone ever heard of a "Stallion hull" ? Its 21', closed bow & looks kinda like a Superboat or maybe a Rally Sport, but does not have a pad in the back & has very little freeboard (set up for a single outboard). I found one in Ocala that needs stringers & a floor for $1500 with a trailer. It looks like it could be fast, but I am looking for a little input before I buy. THANKS

There is one on here for sale I thought I saw somewhere. I've seen them before very cool looking, looks fast sitting on the trailer!!

[gselite2000]

it is a closed bow Gambler. Nice for their time, but contain wood as you have already seen.

Completely up to you as to whether the work is worth it, but they were cool when I was running with them in my Laser 380.

May be competitive with older Hydrostream and Laser type boats, but certainly not against Allisons.

Scott

[specboatops]

it is a closed bow Gambler. Nice for their time, but contain wood as you have already seen.

Completely up to you as to whether the work is worth it, but they were cool when I was running with them in my Laser 380.

May be competitive with older Hydrostream and Laser type boats, but certainly not against Allisons.

Scott

I agree to a point with you, I was taking it to a Allison ALL last summer in my Gambler Stallion/Supersport. I believe the Aly was a 2001 bass model w/ a moified 225 promax..................that being said the guy couldn't drive the damn thing.........a win is a win in my book.

I'm sure by this summer he'll be handing me my A$$..........

[gselite2000]

if boats could race themselves we would just be on the shore watching. If the driver can't drive, he loses.

Actually, I like winning against the person that should not have come up against me to begin with.

Oh, but I sold my boat, I don't race anymore.

Scott

[BoatGoFaster1]

Just to clarify the different models .

Back in the mid 80's a company called Martec in Orlando produced stallions and a bass boat called the gambler.

Bob Ackerbloom was the guy.

They had a 21' model which is a splash of the Challenger/Shadow. They called it 6.2 meter Offshore.

I bought one in 1986 right from the factory, it was a great boat, sold it 2 years ago.

They also had an 18' model which was a Mod vp bottom. don't know the name it went by, but they were fast little boats at the time.

They also made a small bass boat called Gambler. I think these were around 18' . I remember when I was there they were showing me work they were doing on the bottom, they were still playing with the bass boat.

If anybody knows how to upload a PDF file to here, I have the 1986 Powerboat Magazine review of the 21' boat.

[Bryan1257]

Does this look like one???:confused:

[BoatGoFaster1]

NO.

What does the HIN beging with. SOE is Martec.

you can go to

http://www.uscgboating.org/recalls/mic_database.htm

and verify your HIN

[AirRide]

Does this look like one???:confused:This boat was also built in south florida in the 80's, from molds known as the Scorpion 21. I believe they may have been origially tooled & produced, by, of all people, Thunderbird/Formula Boats, in the late 60's, early 70's.

[Bryan1257]

Thats what the title says, Scorpion! I just been havin trouble finding info on it. If you know any more, fire away!!
Thanks.

[AirRide]

Thats what the title says, Scorpion! I just been havin trouble finding info on it. If you know any more, fire away!!
Thanks.I'd be surprised if you found anything more on them. They were just one of many, many, low volume warehouse boat companies that were in business here is south florida back in the 80's. In the OMC(sterndrive) literature for 1969, a Formula brand version of this boat was given a full page photo, in an I/O version, jumping extremely high out of the water, off another boats wake. The boat was blue in color, with the very blonde girls long hair blowing backwards at high speed. In the early 90's, while buying a new car at my local GM dealer, my salesman said he at one time owned Scorpion Boats. Theres your history! lol

[gselite2000]

we are talking warehouse. I visited the Orlando Gambler place, and it just impressed as a place that would be gone soon.

Also was not thrilled with their manufacturing processes.

Scott

[Bryan1257]

Thanks for that:thumbsup:!!!
looks like I got me an unusual toy to play with:cheers:

[rowdy1]

The hull for sale looks just like the one "boatgofaster1" has posted pics of.

[Frank D'Anton]

I have a 21'Stallion 6.2 meter offshore and tandem axle trailer. It was made by Page enterprises from 1985 to 1992 I think. Original motor was a Black Max 200hp but the hull is rated up to 270hp. Very nice boat and yes it does look like it is flying just sitting on the trailer. Well worth restoring.

[mr fun]

mr Ackerbloom got his feet wet in the biz working for Marvin Hurst of orlando at Hurst boats, in the 70's. I've always been impressed by his success, he had the stallion, gambler, and now sterling flats boats. he got a contract with Toyota at one time when they tried to get into the skiboat biz to compete with correct craft and master craft, because of his fit and finish. I always admired the backseat arrangemant on the stallion as a wraparound bench. 1500.00 seems a bit steep these days, I'd lowball it as few people these days want to do anything more than write a check. fun out ps, https://www.google.com/search?q=sterling+flats+boats&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=HeKXUYzxLpPY9AS0gYGgBA&sqi=2&ved=0CF0QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=602

[bulldogdaddy]

they also made a tunnel hull jet boat in the late seventy's

[mymerc2.5]

i have a gambler boat i think i just got it the first 3 letters are gan but then it has vp after that i thought it was only 3 letters on the vin not 5 anyone know why mine has ganvp at the first of the vin its an 87 model 21 ft i think with a 2.5 merc

[Lockjaw]

My buddy has 2 of the 18 foot race ones. One closed bow, one open, kind of like a center console bassboat. Very light, I think the CC one was 600 pounds. It was a tunnel, and it was sure fun to drive with a modded Johnson GT2.6.

[cptunnel]

here is mine. 87 model bought from the original owner. he had and i have now all original paper work including broshures and reciepts of boat. he bought it new in 87 fully rigged and didnt power until 95 with a brand new promax 200. its a pretty neet and very clean boat. 278684278685278686278687278688

[cptunnel]

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[That's Right]

here is mine. 87 model bought from the original owner. he had and i have now all original paper work including broshures and reciepts of boat. he bought it new in 87 fully rigged and didnt power until 95 with a brand new promax 200. its a pretty neet and very clean boat. 278684278685278686278687278688

Damn Casey that boat looks new :thumbsup: Good find.

[cptunnel]

thanks wayne! hows ole yeller doing?

[That's Right]

thanks wayne! hows ole yeller doing?

Ole Yeller is coming right along, working on gauges now and you know how much I love freaking wiring.

[Frank D'Anton]

Unless the Stallion you mentioned is a different model than my own ( 21ft or 6.2 meter ) the wrap around seat you mention must have been custom. The Stallion 21 outboard came with a very simple bench seat across the back.

[NBT]

Unless the Stallion you mentioned is a different model than my own ( 21ft or 6.2 meter ) the wrap around seat you mention must have been custom. The Stallion 21 outboard came with a very simple bench seat across the back.


It was an option. I had a 1986, I took the simple bench seat, (I'm just a simple guy:D)

The wrap around was an option.

Do you have a picture of yours.

[Frank D'Anton]

278759278760278733This is my Stallion 87. Just finished the rebuild. Powered by
Optimax Pro XS 250. Custom Paint, Custom Interior, Center Console added, carbon fiber dash, carbon fiber look upholstery wrapped around one piece molded racing bucket seats and custom side panels. Full Trailer rebuild as well with all LED lights.

[cptunnel]

yes it was an option, i have the orginal broshure from when mine was purchased new and it shows all the different options for outboards and inboard models. the wrap around seating style was super sweet but eliminated all gunnel storage. ill try and get a pic if i remember and upload so yall can see, its pretty neat. nice boat frank, looks super slick..what kinda speeds you seeing with the xs? and what prop?

[Frank D'Anton]

Thanks,
Haven't put it in the water yet but I expect 87 to 90 from a 4 blade Trophy prop.

[Frank D'Anton]

Do you still have the Stallion CP?

[cptunnel]

yes i do..been trying to take it out all week but it never stops raining!!:nonod: lol

[Lilstafo]

Do you still have the 21' ?

[Frank D'Anton]

Yes, I sure do.

[mr fun]

278759278760278733This is my Stallion 87. Just finished the rebuild. Powered by
Optimax Pro XS 250. Custom Paint, Custom Interior, Center Console added, carbon fiber dash, carbon fiber look upholstery wrapped around one piece molded racing bucket seats and custom side panels. Full Trailer rebuild as well with all LED lights.

this thing is AWSOME! thanks for the pics, love the one of the interior!

[scott reierson]

I visited the factory back in the day. Was a write up on in in PB years ago

[blacktruck]

Any pics?

[Frank D'Anton]

Any pics?
Yes,
Some can be seen earlier in this thread.

[blacktruck]

It's beautiful. I actually love the windshield which is hard to pull off.

[Frank D'Anton]

I think I saw the article. Wish more people would post pictures of theirs. Wonder how many 21 footers were built. I think Paige Industries or enterprises built a very limited number of these in Utah.

[Lilstafo]

Can I contact you ? Or contact me please 754 244 3649

[Ras Livity]

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[Lilstafo]

Yes I saw that 20ft motion on Craigslist

[Ras Livity]

Yes I saw that 20ft motion on Craigslist

Yup I got it from a guy down in Miami, sweet boat!

[Lilstafo]

Can you show me pics of the stallion ?

[Frank D'Anton]

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[mr fun]

Super job ! She turned out Amazing ! I'm sure even better up close, that console and other details are totally "Trick" :thumbsup: fun out

[Lilstafo]

What's the asking price ? And would you sell the hull by itself ?

[Lilstafo]

Any pics of the stallion hull ?