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Fish
02-15-2009, 12:33 PM
Link to Article (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/13/stimulus.winners.losers/index.html)



Winners

High-speed and inner-city rail: Went from $300 million in House bill to $2.25 billion in Senate to $8 billion in final version. There also is a $6.9 billion provision for public transit.

Amtrak: Picked up $500 million from both House and Senate versions to total $1.3 billion. The bill stipulates that no more than 60 percent can go to the Northeast Corridor.

National Institutes of Health: Ends up with $10 billion in the final bill. The House proposed $3.5 billion and the Senate wanted $10 billion -- $8.2 billion goes to the NIH director for his discretion.

Government oversight: Board to oversee stimulus bill spending will get $84 million to do the job. House bill allocated $14 million while the Senate bill called for $7 million. There is also more than $100 million more for various inspectors general in different agencies.

NASA: Banked just more than $2 billion, including $400,000 for science/global-warming research.

Losers

Veterans: Nearly all items for Veterans Affairs were reduced and the $2 billion the Senate wanted for VA construction was wiped out altogether. The VA did get one thing: $1 billion for medical facilities renovation and retooling.

Military construction: Cut and put into a general pot, a change from targeted money for each branch of the services. Army construction alone went from $600 million in the Senate and $900 million in the House to $180 million in the final bill. But negotiators compromised over a general military construction fund -- the House wanted $3.75 billion while the Senate allocated $118 million and settled on $1.45 billion for all services.

FBI: Senate had allocated $475 million but all was cut out of final bill

Tax breaks

Car buyers: Anyone who buys a new car in 2009 gets to deduct the sales tax. To qualify, buyer must make less than $125,000 individually or $250,000 jointly. Cost is $1.7 billion.

Homebuyers: First-time homebuyers who purchase this calendar year get an $8,000 tax credit which does not have to be repaid like a similar measure last year. This phases out for people making more than $75,000 individually or $150,000 jointly. "First-time homebuyer" is defined as someone who has not owned a home for the past three years. Cost: $6.63 billion.

Making work pay

Tax credits: Anyone making $75,000 individually or $150,000 as a family will get refundable tax credit up to $400 per person or $800 per family.

and yes, it passed: $787billion stimulus bill passed (http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/13/news/economy/house_final_stimulus/index.htm?postversion=2009021322)

beer30
02-15-2009, 12:42 PM
With the tax break, the average family get a whopping 15.50 a week. I wonder what our First Lady thinks about that considering she thought a check of 600.00 to each taxpaying citizen last year was a joke.:rolleyes::rolleyes:Chuck

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/11/michelle-obama-spend-600-stimulus-check-earrings/

j_martin
02-15-2009, 03:20 PM
We're all loosers, it's all pork. Payoff for votes, and debt on the backs of taxpayers.

delawarerick
02-15-2009, 06:48 PM
Why do veterans come out on the short end of the stick. Im a veteran and do not use my benefits because I have benefits in my retirement package and feel there are those that need them more. Its disgaceful that we can forget those that gave all for them.:mad:Rick

jmg944t
02-15-2009, 07:15 PM
Why do veterans come out on the short end of the stick. Im a veteran and do not use my benefits because I have benefits in my retirement package and feel there are those that need them more. Its disgaceful that we can forget those that gave all for them.:mad:Rick

Veterans tend to take care of themselves and not expect the govt to look after them. We are not the squeaky wheel, we get no grease.

RabidGatorFan
02-15-2009, 07:37 PM
And our government needs $84 MILLION of it to watch how it is spent? Let's face it, the liberal democrats have just screwed the country. To think, the liberals in this country thought Bush screwed us. Yeah, he wasn't a fiscal conservative but it took him 8 years what it took BHO 3 weeks to do.

At the 2010 midterm elections, every incumbent should be asked if they read the bill before they voted for it. If they didn't, vote them out. That would get rid of a bunch of democRats and 3 republicans (presuming they are up in 2010).

beer30
02-15-2009, 08:02 PM
At the 2010 midterm elections, every incumbent should be asked if they read the bill before they voted for it. If they didn't, vote them out. That would get rid of a bunch of democRats and 3 republicans (presuming they are up in 2010).

You know that they are politicians, and with that said they will probably lie when asked!!!!!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::eek::(:mad::nonod::icon_bs:Chuck

sho305
02-15-2009, 08:19 PM
I heard way more democrats voted against (40?) it than republicans (3) for it.

Hydrophobic guy
02-16-2009, 12:04 AM
That would get rid of a bunch of democRats and 3 republicans (presuming they are up in 2010).

One of the three RINO idiots we have is up in 2010 the other idiot unfortunately is 2012.
The people of Maine are BULL$HIT with them. Like tar and feather bull$hit. :mad:

king gill
02-16-2009, 01:59 AM
[QUOTE]With the tax break, the average family get a whopping 15.50 a week.

SWEET.... $15.50 will pay for a 30 pack of Old Milwaukee and a bag of Pretzles:thumbsup:I'll be Bankin:rolleyes::cheers:

delawarerick
02-16-2009, 09:03 AM
Veterans tend to take care of themselves and not expect the govt to look after them. We are not the squeaky wheel, we get no grease.
I agree but alot have lost jobs and have no health care. Also alot of the homeless here are veterans. Rick

Capt.Insane-o
02-16-2009, 09:12 AM
Here in Michigan we shut the power off on them in the middle of winter so they freeze to death when they are too old to see to thier affairs.

Pro300x24LD
02-16-2009, 09:19 AM
hell in a handbasket, thats where this country is going with our new found jack ass leadership

Pro300x24LD
02-16-2009, 09:19 AM
click click pull......



death penalty....

Hydrophobic guy
02-16-2009, 10:42 AM
Write your congressman, have all your friends write them. Its amazing how many people don't and what little effort it actually takes to change their position.

Yep, do it all the time and they correspond back.
To bad most people just want to do nothing but sit back and bitch. :nonod:

Action Dave
02-16-2009, 11:13 AM
[quote=beer30;1588855]

SWEET.... $15.50 will pay for a 30 pack of Old Milwaukee and a bag of Pretzles:thumbsup:I'll be Bankin:rolleyes::cheers:


LMAO!!! Stimulate the economy!

sho305
02-16-2009, 01:57 PM
I hear it will kick in this summer, just in time for that $1 a gallon gas price hike I am sure will come. They don't even need oil to go up to raise the price now, so it is certain to happen.

Come on Capt, we are equal opportunity kid killers too. If you don't pay your gas all winter we shut it off so you can run a heater right next to something flammable and without the fuel cap on it so vapors come out and explode....because 10 people live in the house and can't pay the gas bill or carry 2yr old kids out of the fire, etc, etc....and its all the gas co's fault because people don't need jobs to pay their bills, just free gas and electric the rest of us will pay for....or something like that. Just amazingly sad whatever the case. Makes for a pretty long line of idiots the way I see it, we better hire them to run the state or country, maybe a bank or the SEC....

Hydrophobic guy
02-16-2009, 01:57 PM
Actually you need to get everyone to write to your state party boss and make sure those 2 sell outs don't make it past the primary. They need to be challenged in the primary.

Already have. ;) And the Chair of the state Republican charter has already stated on the air numerous times that they will support any other Rep running against them. They have been delouged with pissed off voters by calls, e-mails, faxes, and letters. They really F'd up stupid a$$es. Even with what they've done voters will still have to be reminded before the primary of their traitorist RINO acts.

sho305
02-16-2009, 02:37 PM
Relibricans, there are more than three in there....just three that didn't get scared enough to jump back across the aisle because their party is getting clubbed to death in elections. I bet you they drew straws what three would vote on behalf of the "liberal republican order" half of the party. Maybe we should call them the F.A.R.T.S. group; the Failure Accountable RINOs consisting of Turds and Socialists.:D