what the H are you tlking about!!!?

[prplbulletxd]

two weeks ago i called paul nichols ,who i respect very much,since he is the guru of the bullet run. i mentioned that i had decided to order a new l/u for my 200efi merc from GPI --well boy i got an earfull and was advised to go this site to hear the reports re GPI. So i did. One contributor had what i would consider a real problem another said something about the bottom of his boat and his dad fell down and lol. several more jumped on the band wagon and spewed the venom like little girls in the schoolyard. oh, the drama!! ( i also went back to 2005 and almost every thing said re GPI and Randy Pierson was very positive so with a score of 2 bad and 25 good reports i followed through and completed the order)
well i'm here to say that this weekend i rec'd my new l/u from randy @GPI and it is beeootiful . so i ran this beast on my 20'xd and full tournament load i went from 66 mph to 70 mph on my first run. oH,in addition, randy sends me atwo props to try.
Gentlemen, i as a newby here its not my intention to p/o anybody, but if you are going to get somebody to build you something and its not working out just cut your losses and g/o. to this point, i couldn't be happier with my purchase and my renewed performance and i feel like i have a pro on my side to help. i say...kudos to Mr. Randy Pierson and GPI. to the guy who so elloquently derided GPI did you give back the free motor he sent you and ask for the cash?:rolleyes:
Sincerely,
prplbulletxd

[Wile E. Coyote]

Great first post :rolleyes: Glad your transaction worked out for you, it didnt for some others, leave it lay, that horse was beaten so much its not even a horse anymore........welcome to scream and fly...

[Wizard]

Dude why don't you tell us you also fouled your underwear last week. I hate it when someone signs up just to post crap. What are you in the fifth grade?

[specboatops]

If he had a good experience good for him. Not ALL is bad.......anyone can have an off day folks.

Welcome to Scream and Fly. Best boating site there is hands down. Enjoy !:thumbsup:

[RED ALERT]

Gentlemen, i as a newby here its not my intention to p/o anybody,
Sincerely,
prplbulletxd

Two posts, both concerning GPI.
The first one, wondering aloud about his ethics.
The second, praising him and criticizing members who were ripped off.
Yeah, sounds like your a newby that doesn't want to piss anyone off :rolleyes:

But thanks for pulling your face up off Pierson's lap long enough to post and warn forum members he is back in business.
He must have bottomed out with the go kart crowd.

[yellowallison]

Randy PIERSON is more PUK up than a *****RS checkbook:thumbsup: :thumbsup::D

[mirage243]

Randy PIERSON is more PUK up than a *****RS checkbook:thumbsup: :thumbsup::D

What does *****rs mean?:D

[yellowallison]

What does *****rs mean?:D

shudda knew a REDNECK from Ally-BAMA wouldn't get it...:D:D Hint: who voted fo OBAMA


Hey MIRAGE243-- Thats one them 390Horse DRAG MOTO from GPI yu race AINT it

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk73/AxiaCoach/DogLaughing.gif

[mickeyjr]

two weeks ago i called paul nichols ,who i respect very much,since he is the guru of the bullet run. i mentioned that i had decided to order a new l/u for my 200efi merc from GPI --well boy i got an earfull and was advised to go this site to hear the reports re GPI. So i did. One contributor had what i would consider a real problem another said something about the bottom of his boat and his dad fell down and lol. several more jumped on the band wagon and spewed the venom like little girls in the schoolyard. oh, the drama!! ( i also went back to 2005 and almost every thing said re GPI and Randy Pierson was very positive so with a score of 2 bad and 25 good reports i followed through and completed the order)
well i'm here to say that this weekend i rec'd my new l/u from randy @GPI and it is beeootiful . so i ran this beast on my 20'xd and full tournament load i went from 66 mph to 70 mph on my first run. oH,in addition, randy sends me atwo props to try.
Gentlemen, i as a newby here its not my intention to p/o anybody, but if you are going to get somebody to build you something and its not working out just cut your losses and g/o. to this point, i couldn't be happier with my purchase and my renewed performance and i feel like i have a pro on my side to help. i say...kudos to Mr. Randy Pierson and GPI. to the guy who so elloquently derided GPI did you give back the free motor he sent you and ask for the cash?:rolleyes:
Sincerely,
prplbulletxd


useless post!:rolleyes:

[MercNuts]

two weeks ago i called paul nichols ,who i respect very much,since he is the guru of the bullet run. i mentioned that i had decided to order a new l/u for my 200efi merc from GPI --well boy i got an earfull and was advised to go this site to hear the reports re GPI. ..................and almost every thing said re GPI and Randy Pierson was very positive so with a score of 2 bad and 25 good reports i followed through and completed the order)


You should dig out that second grade arithmetic book and study it all over again if you reached a conclusion that GPI Randy Pierson has a 25 to 2 postivite rating here or either the search function here is completely blown. In my opinion there are very many people here who were very unhappy with the result.

If you respect Paul Nichols so much why did you not listen to his advice? Maybe it is more like any blacksmith can build a lower unit or buy one already built from somewhere else and resell it satisfactorily but when it comes to building powerheads it could be a very terrible choice.

[specboatops]

Randy PIERSON is more PUK up than a *****RS checkbook:thumbsup: :thumbsup::D

Just wanted to say that your Ally is one of the baddest boats I've seen. That thing is sick, people are probably afraid to even make eye contact when you pull along side them in that thing WOW :thumbsup::thumbsup::cheers::cheers:

[BigRedAlli]

Hey Scott....Maybe prplbulletxd would want to buy your Randy Pierson personal autograph... :D<!-- / message -->

[Hydrophobic guy]

What does *****rs mean?:D

BWAHAHAHA The racist filters on!!!
Now start with n and fill in the rest. ;) :D

[yellowallison]

Hey Scott....Maybe prplbulletxd would want to buy your Randy Pierson personal autograph...

MARTY..........It's not for SALE.......GILMORE and BOB PRELL has offered me as much as 1,000,000,000 $$$$$ for my Autographed HAT but I keep tellin him its not FO SALE.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[prplbulletxd]

You should dig out that second grade arithmetic book and study it all over again if you reached a conclusion that GPI Randy Pierson has a 25 to 2 postivite rating here or either the search function here is completely blown. In my opinion there are very many people here who were very unhappy with the result.

If you respect Paul Nichols so much why did you not listen to his advice? Maybe it is more like any blacksmith can build a lower unit or buy one already built from somewhere else and resell it satisfactorily but when it comes to building powerheads it could be a very terrible choice.

dude, thats why i went to SNF to see what was there...sorry U had a problem...i havn't--bye!

[yellowallison]

dude, thats why i went to SNF to see what was there...sorry U had a problem...i havn't--bye!

PURPLE "GPI" LOVER pickin up his LU from GPI

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/CasketGirl/hump.gif

:D:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::D

[mirage243]

PURPLE "GPI" LOVER pickin up his LU from GPI

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/CasketGirl/hump.gif

:D:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::D

Hey,....................I like purple, and I think that damn yankee is getting his purple and yellow.:thumbsup:

NICE PUPPY:D

[Hot Shot Merc]

two weeks ago i called paul nichols ,who i respect very much,since he is the guru of the bullet run. i mentioned that i had decided to order a new l/u for my 200efi merc from GPI --well boy i got an earfull and was advised to go this site to hear the reports re GPI. So i did. One contributor had what i would consider a real problem another said something about the bottom of his boat and his dad fell down and lol. several more jumped on the band wagon and spewed the venom like little girls in the schoolyard. oh, the drama!! ( i also went back to 2005 and almost every thing said re GPI and Randy Pierson was very positive so with a score of 2 bad and 25 good reports i followed through and completed the order)
well i'm here to say that this weekend i rec'd my new l/u from randy @GPI and it is beeootiful . so i ran this beast on my 20'xd and full tournament load i went from 66 mph to 70 mph on my first run. oH,in addition, randy sends me atwo props to try.
Gentlemen, i as a newby here its not my intention to p/o anybody, but if you are going to get somebody to build you something and its not working out just cut your losses and g/o. to this point, i couldn't be happier with my purchase and my renewed performance and i feel like i have a pro on my side to help. i say...kudos to Mr. Randy Pierson and GPI. to the guy who so elloquently derided GPI did you give back the free motor he sent you and ask for the cash?:rolleyes:
Sincerely,
prplbulletxdIf you had any clue about perf boating you would think differently about Randy.He has made outrageous claims that he ran 140 mph in his STV with a sportmaster case and a 28 pitch modified chopper in a lake less than 1/2 mile across.Did Randy tell you about this claim and offer to give you a ride in his boat at over 120 start to stop in less than 1/2 mile lake? Ask Michale Dixon or Dave Dreifort what it takes to run those speeds.They will both tell you it cant be done without a speed master case.Maybe you should do more homework when warned.

At the same time I am sure Randy can make some people happy.Doesnt mean you should gamble your money like you did after beein warned by somebody you respect so highly.By the way most of the threads were deleted so the majority is still against him beeing so trustworthy.There are also other disscusion forums that have the same result about his claims ect.He has never screwed me either but that doesnt mean I should give him my money after beeing warned against it.

[MercNuts]

dude, thats why i went to SNF to see what was there...sorry U had a problem...i havn't--bye!

My suspicions are that you did not come here to seek advice but more likely just to put up a shameless spam plug for someone who you apparently have your nose shoved too firmly in his lower end to see the risk if you even did any business with him. This whole post is spamming at its worst. If it was advice you were after you would have trusted your trusted advisor Paul and looked more deeply for the history on the person you asked advice on. People here have gotten sick of exagerated claims poor work and business dealings that suck. To ask advice and then go against it and start butt kissing is nothing but spam. Did I say spammer already?:p

[Chummy]

I'll give you my GPI stickers if you like (yes I said give)... they are the most expensive stickers I have ever owned. Think about it.... Oh yeah this is where those gear cases come from and he is a great person to deal with

www.low-h2o.com

tell him Chummy sent you and send Randy my love

oh yeah Paul Nichols is as honest as they come

[Cp]

.......but thanks for pulling your face up off Pierson's lap long enough to post and ......

You can move the boy out out of city, but . . . . .

[Quinten]

Where can I get the 1.5 minutes back that I spent reading post #1.

[John Richied]

i feel like i have a pro on my side to help. i say...kudos to Mr. Randy Pierson and GPI.<O:p</O:p

Sincerely,<O:p</O:p
prplbulletxd

<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p



Well one nice thing about Randy being back in business…
He helped get this guys Bullet 20XD/200 Merc bassboat from 66 to 70 MPH!!!
<O:p</O:p<O:p</O:p


You can move the boy out out of city, but . . . . .
<O:p</O:p
Clifton, are you going to put the GPI cheerleading uniform on again and get crazy?
<O:p</O:p
If you are… bring your sisters because you’re going to need back up. :)
<O:p</O:p


PURPLE "GPI" LOVER pickin up his LU from GPI

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii113/CasketGirl/hump.gif

:D:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::D

I don’t care who you are... that’s just FUNNY… WRONG, but Funny! :D :D :D

[SnakeBit]

two weeks ago i called paul nichols ,who i respect very much,since he is the guru of the bullet run. i mentioned that i had decided to order a new l/u for my 200efi merc from GPI --well boy i got an earfull and was advised to go this site to hear the reports re GPI. So i did. One contributor had what i would consider a real problem another said something about the bottom of his boat and his dad fell down and lol. several more jumped on the band wagon and spewed the venom like little girls in the schoolyard. oh, the drama!! ( i also went back to 2005 and almost every thing said re GPI and Randy Pierson was very positive so with a score of 2 bad and 25 good reports i followed through and completed the order)
well i'm here to say that this weekend i rec'd my new l/u from randy @GPI and it is beeootiful . so i ran this beast on my 20'xd and full tournament load i went from 66 mph to 70 mph on my first run. oH,in addition, randy sends me atwo props to try.
Gentlemen, i as a newby here its not my intention to p/o anybody, but if you are going to get somebody to build you something and its not working out just cut your losses and g/o. to this point, i couldn't be happier with my purchase and my renewed performance and i feel like i have a pro on my side to help. i say...kudos to Mr. Randy Pierson and GPI. to the guy who so elloquently derided GPI did you give back the free motor he sent you and ask for the cash?:rolleyes:
Sincerely,
prplbulletxd

Your new!! Your posts don't mean jack chit to me!! You or anybody else who fails to fill out a profile!! Who are you?? Were do you come from?? Somehow I think the real members here need to put there boots on the chit is gettin deep with this one!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::icon_bs:

This site is starting to get were any whore can stop buy with a computer spend a couple of hrs or even a night!!! fOR THE LIFE OF ME, I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHILE IT IS OKAY TO READ FOR FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
All of us should pay at least the 25 bucks a year to post!!!! All team members should post a profile!!! I often wonder when the administrators here will enact --- what to me seems very reasonable!! No money no posting!!:mad::mad:

[XSive]

Your new!! Your posts don't mean jack chit to me!! You or anybody else who fails to fill out a profile!! Who are you?? Were do you come from?? Somehow I think the real members here need to put there boots on the chit is gettin deep with this one!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::icon_bs:

This site is starting to get were any whore can stop buy with a computer spend a couple of hrs or even a night!!! fOR THE LIFE OF ME, I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHILE IT IS OKAY TO READ FOR FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
All of us should pay at least the 25 bucks a year to post!!!! All team members should post a profile!!! I often wonder when the administrators here will enact --- what to me seems very reasonable!! No money no posting!!:mad::mad:

Hey Trousersnakebiter,

Give it a rest. You are like a retarded broken record. Having people as naive as Purplemembergobbler means there will no shortage of entertainment around here. It's not all bad, he was warned.

PS - Thank you for the lovely Xmas present of picking up the tab on my own S&F membership. That was very generous of you. :thumbsup:

[bigbore]

If he had a good experience good for him. Not ALL is bad.......anyone can have an off day folks.

Welcome to Scream and Fly. Best boating site there is hands down. Enjoy !:thumbsup:
with specboatops on that 1,no-doubt,bout all the GPI stuff,not my buisness.:cool::thumbsup::cool:

[SnakeBit]

Hey Trousersnakebiter,

Give it a rest. You are like a retarded broken record. Having people as naive as Purplemembergobbler means there will no shortage of entertainment around here. It's not all bad, he was warned.

PS - Thank you for the lovely Xmas present of picking up the tab on my own S&F membership. That was very generous of you. :thumbsup:

First of all ****breath --- The person I told I would pay for there membership I did. The only retard is you --- people like us should encourage membership it helps the site, but then again you are a Canadien!!! What would you know!!!:o:thumbsup:

[Cp]

..Clifton, bla bla bla....

What a twit....

COME ON MAN!!!! Tell us how bad your GPI **** is running. Or did you ebay that too? I doubt it.

[specboatops]

The person I told I would pay for there membership I did.

Wow that was nice of you.:cheers:

[skydog]

Well on my end i have spent lots of money in the past with Randy had a few bumps but he ALL WAYS made it right!! I for one Like Randy. Hell i spent close $20,000 at Diamond and had a few bumps too! That they are still working on. Marty has been great he is standing right with me, just like Randy did.

Skydog

[specboatops]

Nobody wants to listen to the good, your boat was a perfect example of Randy's work......at least in our area. Your G.S. was the fastest outboard on the river at that time ( Now there's a guy with a 25' Motion that's SICK fast;)) I don't pretend to know it all but everything I've done along the way of improving performance has had a snag here or there along the way. And yes there have been some lessons learned along the way. I'm still not outta the woods yet with mine, but regardless of what anyone says I'll shoot it to ya straight NEVER b.s. about what it can do.....................only facts. And hell ya I want to go faster......who doesn't ? :thumbsup:

[skydog]

Right on buddy! You put a boat in water and put a 2 stroke on the back there will be snags! Hell some times i feel that is why i do this stuff!! Nos on sleds, Turbos on sleds,Super Charger on sleds..... If i did not have some thing to play with i would go nuts!!! HAHAHA

Skydog

[XSive]

for Purplelapdog, SkyDog, and Specboatops....

Are you guys really this gullible?

[specboatops]

for Purplelapdog, SkyDog, and Specboatops....

Are you guys really this gullible?

What is that suppose to mean ......that your opinion means more:confused::confused: I believe in what I'VE seen..........maybe some guy's have had problems, am I suppose to jump on that band wagon because you so...........I think not. You do what is right for you and I'll do whats right for me. Did you read what Skydog posted?? did you see the amount of $$ he's spent other places and STILL had a snag here or there.......it happens plain and simple.

[specboatops]

Let me try it this way...........I've never met Randy, I have spoke to him over the phone but we have never met. I have a good friend that has done business with him. In his situation things were good, motor ran good and fast. Based on what I have personally seen.................All seems good. If YOU have had a bad experience with GPI......I'm truly sorry as I hate to see ANYONE have boating problems, hello thats why I'm here for the plain and simple fact that 2 stoke ( boating) and any boating for that matter runs threw my veins........its how I defended my Country it is my passion. But I'm going to speak only of what I know of, again in my neck of the woods there have been no problems that I'm aware of. I/m not trying to lead the GPI fan club, rather to give anyone who reads another opinion from my point of view ( and most will make up there minds for themselves)

IF you take anything away from this post, take away that I wish you had a better experience......And I hope in the future your boat runs as good as it does fast:thumbsup:

[Raceman]

Nobody wants to listen to the good, your boat was a perfect example of Randy's work......at least in our area. Your G.S. was the fastest outboard on the river at that time ( Now there's a guy with a 25' Motion that's SICK fast;)) I don't pretend to know it all but everything I've done along the way of improving performance has had a snag here or there along the way. And yes there have been some lessons learned along the way. I'm still not outta the woods yet with mine, but regardless of what anyone says I'll shoot it to ya straight NEVER b.s. about what it can do.....................only facts. And hell ya I want to go faster......who doesn't ? :thumbsup:


What is that suppose to mean ......that your opinion means more:confused::confused: I believe in what I'VE seen..........maybe some guy's have had problems, am I suppose to jump on that band wagon because you so...........I think not you do what is right for you and I'll do whats right for me. Did you read what Skydog posted?? did you see the amount of $$ he's spent other places and STILL had a snag here or there.......it happens plain and simple.

It's obviously true that anytime mechanical devices are pushed to and beyond their limits there will be failures, and therefore there can be some disagreements over where the blame lies for these failures, and some related issues just can't be resolved to the satisfaction of both parties involved.

That having been said, there have been complaints with this particular individual that go way past what would reasonably be considered collateral risk from fooling with race type stuff, and there have also been some sensational claims made that just haven't been backed up, presumably to enhance the reputation and perception of ability of this person to produce a positive result.

The deal breaker for me was the obviously manipulated video that was circulated around SHOWING a speed higher than anyone else at the time had achieved, BUT SHOWING THE RADAR on camera AT A 90º ANGLE TO THE TARGET. This was offered as absolute proof of the accomplishment after it was questioned. Anyone with even a passive knowledge of radar would know that a reading must be taken at a zero angle and that the 90 degrees would have produced a speed of near ZERO MPH. It was a farce, it was circulated as factual, and the excuses made for it after it was challenged were ridiculous. So how do you go foward from that with trusting someone's credibility or believing any other claims?

Since that time there have been posts here from people with unsatisfactory transactions. One has posted on this thread, although casually. I wish that he would post the details of the relationship, the condition of the powerhead involved and money spent to do it, and later to correct it by someone else, but he's chosen not to.

I believe that as a community we have a responsibility to see to it that when someone seeks a target to throw large sums of money at, they have a reasonable expectation of being treated fairly by someone with a decent set of ethics, that the person has the ability to deliver what they claim, that they'll get quality work and NO SURPRISES if the item is dissassembled later, and confidence that they got what they paid for. Surprises even in small numbers can be a reputation killer for any business or individual trying to portray himself as an expert in his field.

Some positive results combined with a disproportionally high number of negatives just aren't good enough.

[specboatops]

Raceman,

I enjoyed your post ......and agree with most of what you say. All I can comment on is what I know and what I've seen, like I said I'm not the charter member of the fan club I just know how well Matt's ( Skydog's) boat ran. That is when I really started to get to know Matt.
I also know there were threads ( and I only really remember 1 but I know you have a better memory on it than I) that really shot him down......and maybe deservingly......I just hate when all I see or hear is the negative......or as some guys call it the " lynch mob" I would defend you in the fact that NO ONE wants bogus info, not I or anyone else for that matter. I come to this site for that very reasons amongst many others. So even though I applaud letting people know of a bad deal I also then must speak the good .......if any .......if I'm aware.

trust me I could write BOOKS on here about Steve Heintz........but at the end of the day I made that mistake, and continue to try and get my money's worth out of it.

I will push myself away from the keyboard on this topic now as I really have no dog in this fight.

Happy Holidays all.......................

[mickeyjr]

Not ALL is bad.......anyone can have an off day folks.





:rolleyes: ahhhhh, got it! so GPI just had an off day...or two.

[skydog]

Boy o boy ha ha nuts.. Randy was good to me. If i had a problem he would next day air me a part to get me back on the water!!(most of the time FREE WOW) That went along way for me!! We dont get to boat every day here like you guys!!! HAPPY BOATING TO ALL!! :) :)

Skydog P.S. one more quick note... I dont think allot of people have a clue on how hard it is to work with the public every day. I do in the auto world and some people are just plain out of their mind! No matter what you do they are NOT HAPPY!!I could not even think about doing it in the perf. boat world!!! WOW HAHAHA

[Chummy]

I am a former customer of GPI and here is my story of dealings with him so take it as you will. In the beginning everything was great but something changed a couple of years ago and I don’t have a clue as to why, but he could have cared less about his business, hence the change to karts. After I got my boat and learned that the engine was in need of a rebuild, so I did a ton of research and kept seeing GPI racing this and that and how great the customer service was. So after a bunch of research and phone calls I send him my engine. He said he wanted to put these pistons in the engine that he had had great luck with which is fine since he offers a year warranty on the rebuild (remember this was my first boat and I was a newbie) . Randy treated me like I was the number one customer on his list. The engine was to have gotten new bearings, pistons, all new seals & gaskets and had Tony and Linda @ Brucato test and flow the injectors. Got the engine back and he gave me detailed instructions on breaking the engine. I talked to Randy at least a couple times a week, talking about things to change in the setup and new spacer plates with the injectors in front of the reeds. After I was told that the spacer plate was finished and testing had been complete I bought one for a small fee (LOL). I told people how I was treated and how great things were in dealing with GPI and the added performance. So finally I get to meet Randy in person at the Allison Rally 50th anniversary. He took me in like I was a long lost friend and even jokes flew around about him being my dad. I came out to my boat one morning to find that my stock sportmaster gearcase had been swapped for a “GPI Sportmaster”. He told me to give it a try for the day and see how it felt (thinking wow this is really cool). I promoted him so much in the southeast it isn’t even funny (an area he didn’t have any customers in). Meanwhile my dads original 2.4 200 bit the dust after who knows how many thousands of hours, so Randy says send him the 2.4 and he will take it in on core in return for a 2.5 Promax that has had some port work done for a customer that changed his mind and wanted to build a drag motor. Everything was smooth and running for about 2 more months about a year on my engine, then on a run in Florida while running around 3000-3500 rpms the engine tried to seize (didn’t know this at the time, engine just shut off). After a little bit the engine fired back up and ran fine. I talked to Randy and he said something must have happened and to send the powerhead back to him and since it was right at the year mark he would make it good. Once he got the engine he said that it did try to seize and that he would send the block to Ruck and the injectors to Brucato again. He said once he got the block back from Ruck he wanted to put in 6 new pistons and he would split the cost with me. I talked to Randy a few times along the way as well as some others warning me to get my engine back ASAP that things weren’t the same as they used to be. Then I get a phone call at work from my dad at the lake who said that his new engine has come apart. After inspection the crank had broken in half… Since my engine was back up there the tone of our phone conversations had changed completely. When I would call I would get this hung over sounding “YEAH” when he would answer the phone. He wanted me to send him back the engine and he would fix it. Well he had my engine and my crate so I had to get my engine back before I could send him the Promax. Once I got my engine back and installed (with supposedly new pistons a light hone and tested injectors) I ran the boat and it had a bad surge problem. I took the engine to a friend where he advised us to do a leak down test. The results were staggering ranging from 5% to 40%. I called Randy and told him what I found and he was not very helpful or concerned (really seemed to care less). The conversation ended pretty much with send it back and we’ll see what we can do, but it will cost you out of pocket. Thinking people would stand behind their work I called Jim Ruck and he asked for the serial number on the block. I gave him my serial number and he then told me he had never worked on my block before and that he keeps record of all the blocks he works on. So my next call was to Brucato, Linda then tells me that GPI hasn’t sent any injectors in a LONG time. I found this quite irritating to say the least I have paid through Randy for Ruck and Brucato (twice) to do something that they never got. After some thought I decided to send the engine to someone I had met and had always told me that if I ever needed anything to let him know. I sent him the engine to tear down and inspect as well as the Promax. What he found in my engine was a set of wore out pistons (NOT new) and the cylinders were way out of round a couple as much as 15 thousandths and they had been honed with something enough to completely wear through the nic. The Promax was another basket case it had besides a broken crank, non matching pistons and rods, it wasn’t a Promax with porting but instead a 2.5 200 with a laser injection front, broken, cracked and mismatched reeds & cages and a 175hp ECU (which conveniently had the numbers wiped off the box). On the 280 we ended up sending the injectors to Brucato and there was a few that were barely even spraying (imagine that). I had to have the block re-nicked, and installed 6 new Mercury pistons. Oh yeah and remember that spacer plate that put the injectors in front of the reeds? It was never tested nor was the machinist ever paid for them. The spacer plate was supposed to idle better and provide better mid range… Guess what with clean injectors it idles like a dream. The 2.5 200 was ported to what it was supposed to have originally been and had the correct internals installed with the correct ECU. In summary I know my wallet wasn’t hurt as much as some people out there but it still hurts. Big thanks to those that helped along the way you know who you are.

[specboatops]

Chummy,

WOW is all I can say to that:eek::eek:. As I stated earlier I'm not trying to start a fan club, and after reading THAT I can see why all the fuss was made, I guess Matt got lucky or it was before the " I don't give a crap" thing happened.
It sucks to have any problems with these things, but especially when you think your getting one thing and in turn you get just the oppisite. I've always considered you one of the " Straight shooters " on her so I will heed your warning of what happened.

Those story's need to be heard I guess as to save others........like I said I guess Matt got lucky because his ran VERY well and fast. He just wanted bigger/faster and so the the new Motion came.

I guess there just comes a time when you have to say " enough is enough"
I hope you and your dad are both outta the woods with your motors and are enjoying boating to the fulliest................

[Chummy]

I guess there just comes a time when you have to say " enough is enough"
I hope you and your dad are both outta the woods with your motors and are enjoying boating to the fulliest................


yes indeed we are :D thanks for the compliments

[Phil's other half...Sue.]

Wow Chummy (love the name)
it really stinks when you give someone a job to do and trust them to do it right and in the end they take your money, scr ew up your motor, then treat you like crap but those people will get what they deserve in the end...and their business will go down hill. When you send your motor to people that are trustworthy like Diamond you know that you get treated with respect and you know that you can trust them with anything that is sent and they will do the right thing for you. I hate when someone in business takes advantage and tries to rip off and s crew a hard working person. It makes me sick as my mom has been a business owner for 35 years we still have a customer base for that many years plus their children now because we treat our customers with the respect they deserve and do what is right for them, why else would someone want to be in business if not to bring in good customers. Phil treated his customers the same way and would never rip them off either.......but do what is right for them. We will never be millionaires but we can sleep at night.

[1meanstream]

I am a former customer of GPI and here is my story of dealings with him so take it as you will. In the beginning everything was great but something changed a couple of years ago and I don’t have a clue as to why, but he could have cared less about his business, hence the change to karts. After I got my boat and learned that the engine was in need of a rebuild, so I did a ton of research and kept seeing GPI racing this and that and how great the customer service was. So after a bunch of research and phone calls I send him my engine. He said he wanted to put these pistons in the engine that he had had great luck with which is fine since he offers a year warranty on the rebuild (remember this was my first boat and I was a newbie) . Randy treated me like I was the number one customer on his list. The engine was to have gotten new bearings, pistons, all new seals & gaskets and had Tony and Linda @ Brucato test and flow the injectors. Got the engine back and he gave me detailed instructions on breaking the engine. I talked to Randy at least a couple times a week, talking about things to change in the setup and new spacer plates with the injectors in front of the reeds. After I was told that the spacer plate was finished and testing had been complete I bought one for a small fee (LOL). I told people how I was treated and how great things were in dealing with GPI and the added performance. So finally I get to meet Randy in person at the Allison Rally 50th anniversary. He took me in like I was a long lost friend and even jokes flew around about him being my dad. I came out to my boat one morning to find that my stock sportmaster gearcase had been swapped for a “GPI Sportmaster”. He told me to give it a try for the day and see how it felt (thinking wow this is really cool). I promoted him so much in the southeast it isn’t even funny (an area he didn’t have any customers in). Meanwhile my dads original 2.4 200 bit the dust after who knows how many thousands of hours, so Randy says send him the 2.4 and he will take it in on core in return for a 2.5 Promax that has had some port work done for a customer that changed his mind and wanted to build a drag motor. Everything was smooth and running for about 2 more months about a year on my engine, then on a run in Florida while running around 3000-3500 rpms the engine tried to seize (didn’t know this at the time, engine just shut off). After a little bit the engine fired back up and ran fine. I talked to Randy and he said something must have happened and to send the powerhead back to him and since it was right at the year mark he would make it good. Once he got the engine he said that it did try to seize and that he would send the block to Ruck and the injectors to Brucato again. He said once he got the block back from Ruck he wanted to put in 6 new pistons and he would split the cost with me. I talked to Randy a few times along the way as well as some others warning me to get my engine back ASAP that things weren’t the same as they used to be. Then I get a phone call at work from my dad at the lake who said that his new engine has come apart. After inspection the crank had broken in half… Since my engine was back up there the tone of our phone conversations had changed completely. When I would call I would get this hung over sounding “YEAH” when he would answer the phone. He wanted me to send him back the engine and he would fix it. Well he had my engine and my crate so I had to get my engine back before I could send him the Promax. Once I got my engine back and installed (with supposedly new pistons a light hone and tested injectors) I ran the boat and it had a bad surge problem. I took the engine to a friend where he advised us to do a leak down test. The results were staggering ranging from 5% to 40%. I called Randy and told him what I found and he was not very helpful or concerned (really seemed to care less). The conversation ended pretty much with send it back and we’ll see what we can do, but it will cost you out of pocket. Thinking people would stand behind their work I called Jim Ruck and he asked for the serial number on the block. I gave him my serial number and he then told me he had never worked on my block before and that he keeps record of all the blocks he works on. So my next call was to Brucato, Linda then tells me that GPI hasn’t sent any injectors in a LONG time. I found this quite irritating to say the least I have paid through Randy for Ruck and Brucato (twice) to do something that they never got. After some thought I decided to send the engine to someone I had met and had always told me that if I ever needed anything to let him know. I sent him the engine to tear down and inspect as well as the Promax. What he found in my engine was a set of wore out pistons (NOT new) and the cylinders were way out of round a couple as much as 15 thousandths and they had been honed with something enough to completely wear through the nic. The Promax was another basket case it had besides a broken crank, non matching pistons and rods, it wasn’t a Promax with porting but instead a 2.5 200 with a laser injection front, broken, cracked and mismatched reeds & cages and a 175hp ECU (which conveniently had the numbers wiped off the box). On the 280 we ended up sending the injectors to Brucato and there was a few that were barely even spraying (imagine that). I had to have the block re-nicked, and installed 6 new Mercury pistons. Oh yeah and remember that spacer plate that put the injectors in front of the reeds? It was never tested nor was the machinist ever paid for them. The spacer plate was supposed to idle better and provide better mid range… Guess what with clean injectors it idles like a dream. The 2.5 200 was ported to what it was supposed to have originally been and had the correct internals installed with the correct ECU. In summary I know my wallet wasn’t hurt as much as some people out there but it still hurts. Big thanks to those that helped along the way you know who you are.


I was going to have GPI build an engine for me prior to buying my 280. It was expierences like this that changed my mind. Randy always treated me awesome--there were just too many red flags.

[yellowallison]

Sad part is.......know of alot more folks who got same treatment as Chummy :(:( ....it seemed like it was everyday the phone was ringing on how GPI had SCREWED someone else :rolleyes:


Still laugh at the day he called me wanting to swap my new DRAG motor for some PIECE MEAL JUNKER putting out 415HP - said RANDY yu smokin crack :icon_bs:


Or still laugh at him at the ALLISON RALLY giving that HIGH PERFORMACE SPEECH and I asked for his AUTOGRAPH:D:D

p.s..Chummy thumbs up for posting yur experience to help others:thumbsup:

[mirage243]

Or still laugh at him at the ALLISON RALLY giving that HIGH PERFORMACE SPEECH and I asked for his AUTOGRAPH:D:D

Sounds like something I would do:thumbsup: