paramount 21 remove the hook?

[northernoffshore]

Got a 21 paramount 1990 model that we are in the process of painting and hanging a 250xs on the back? What set back is good , maybe 10"? on a jack plate. The hook? Is it worth the time to take the hook out and straighten the bottom? Any help will be appreciated, thanks jay.

[Carter Powell]

How much hook is in the bottom. If the boat was not designed with hook in the bottom and you plan on keeping it and using it and don't want to eventually throw stuff at it for not being fast enough, FIX THE HOOK! Can you get the boat upside down? That is the easiest way to repair any bottom issue. If you can't figure a safe way to do it. put a post back here and I will share with you the slickest way in the world for one person to do it. If you have friends, all the better. I can give you ideas on how to fix the hook later. First you got to get it bottom side up.

Best wishes, Carter Powell

[cc1000]

I'm going to have to flip my little 14', but now you have my attention.
What's your trick?

[ucf_motorcycle]

How much hook is in the bottom. If the boat was not designed with hook in the bottom

The boat is designed with the hook. Thats why it runs pretty decent in chop. I'm not positive on this but I think without it you will probably run faster but the handling will suffer in anything but smooth water. A compromise you have to think of. I own a Paramount and personally wouldn't put the work into reshaping the bottom since I do run the boat in chop and offshore often and wouldn't want to risk changing the rough water characteristics.

Paramount desinged it that way for a reason, (ie its a fishing boat not a speed boat) if you want to make a speed boat out of it then yes remove it. But you will lose the handling that makes this hull a good all around boat.

[Johnny_B_Good]

I'm curious as to how much of a difference us paramount owners will actually notice from removing the hook and straightening the pad. I'd like to hear from someone that has it done. Would using the trim tabs compensate for the roughness removing the hook would create?

I love the way mine rides as it is now though.

[Reaction19]

i have a friend with no hook on his and is running high 70's w/ a 225 efi merc. it will run.

[ucf_motorcycle]

i have a friend with no hook on his and is running high 70's w/ a 225 efi merc. it will run.

How did it effect the handling in chop?

[Action Dave]

The boat will pound a little more in the rough water with the hook removed. All the hook does is keep the bow down. There is a lot of work involved in removing the hook but the boat will be much faster. Like Reaction said, around 80 with a peppy 225. In light bay chop, you won't notice much difference but in the rough stuff, you definately will. It depends on where you run the boat. If you like fishing offshore, keep it as-is. Essentially, a Paramount w/out hook is the same boat as the old 21 Action marine.

[Action Dave]

Also, if you install some good trim tabs, you can use them to keep the nose down in rougher water. The benefits of the hook without the drawbacks.

[Johnny_B_Good]

Also, if you install some good trim tabs, you can use them to keep the nose down in rougher water. The benefits of the hook without the drawbacks.

Nice, that answered my question. If this hasn't already been done on my boat, it will be eventually.

[Carter Powell]

I will post some pictures of a 7' diameter plywood wheel that I made tomorrow. You cross brace it with 2x4s, glue and screw another piece of plywood in the center, then drill holes that match the engine mounting holes in the center. After the motor is removed just take a cherry picker and lift up the back of the boat and bolt the plywood wheel to the back of the boat.
Now just lower the cherry picker down so that the wheel rests on the ground. Hook the cherry picker to the front bow eye with some heavy nylon strap and lift the front high enough to pull out the trailer. Now just rotate the boat to an upside down position and rest the upside down deck on something solid and start working.

Carter Powell

[baja200merk]

any updates on this project?

[slo moe]

I'm curious about this also. Picked up a 93 with a tired johnson 200 couple months ago. Currently looking for a 225efi merc now and want to put a hyd jack plate with maybe 6" to 8" set back. Scouring all posts on these boats.

[BUD]

The boat doesnt have a hook in it, its got a wedge. almost like a strake on both sides of the keel that runs from the transom foward about 4' then terminates into the V. To remove it would be like cutting a strake out and blending it to the V. So where are the boats that have had this removed, their out there suposedly??:D:D

[baja200merk]

The boat doesnt have a hook in it, its got a wedge. almost like a strake on both sides of the keel that runs from the transom foward about 4' then terminates into the V. To remove it would be like cutting a strake out and blending it to the V. So where are the boats that have had this removed, their out there suposedly??:D:D

I wanna see this too!

how noticeable was the performance increase? :confused:

[BUD]

Is there anyway to move this thread to general discussion? It might help the cause!!!

[baja200merk]

dono, but how fast was a 21 action wit a 225?

[action17]

dono, but how fast was a 21 action wit a 225?

My dad had a 21 action back in the day with a good 235 and ran in the low 80's. He also did a bottom job.

[baja200merk]

wow so can i expect similar speeds with the bottom straitened out on this thing?

[Coupe9050lx]

I don't think you will see 80 but with a bottom job and a peppy 250 you will be in the low to mid 70's as my friends boat.:thumbsup:

[baja200merk]

did he remove the wedge? supposedly mid 70s is where they hit a wall.

If a 235 went 80s with a strait bottom, i would expect easy mid 80s with the same bottom and a 250.

[Coupe9050lx]

did he remove the wedge? supposedly mid 70s is where they hit a wall.

If a 235 went 80s with a strait bottom, i would expect easy mid 80s with the same bottom and a 250.

That has a lot to do with the layout of the boat, console, gas tank, exc... also maybe that particular boat was layed real light. I was refering to a normal boat.

[baja200merk]

im starting to lean towards adding a pad and all. gotta figure out width/height etc. Cause if/when it gets flipped i dont want to half a;ss it.. Any info/pictures would really be appreciated!

Im not worried about rough water ride. Some small K-planes will keep the bow down enough to ride as good as it ever has. :thumbsup:

Thanks
Kevin