No fire at all ! help

[Brian GT 2.6]

Problem started with no fire on left bank. I put power pack from left side to right side and problem stayed on left side. Then I tested stator with DVA meter left has 200 volts right has 160 volts. Then I tested the Timer Base with DVA meter and one side was not putting any volts out, so I replaced it with a new one. Now I have right amount of volts coming from timer base on both sides , but NO FIRE AT ALL . Please help if you have any idea what problem could be.

[nymack66]

Coils , since you swap the pack and the problem stayed on the left , swap the cols or test em

[nymack66]

If you have a single pack, disconnect the black/yellow wire comming from the shift switch. If the spark comes bak, it the switch. If the spark does not come back, there are two sets of brown wires under the pack, switch them. If the problem goes to the other side, you have a bad stator. If it stays on one side, it's the pack

[Brian GT 2.6]

I swaped the coils and they are all good. I also took black and yellow wire out of plug, still no fire .I switched the 2 brown wires from stator , and the problem stays on the same side . Does the rectifier regulator have anything to do with starting ? I just went through the wire harness and found no cuts or bad spots in any wires. :confused: IT IS A 1984 235 JOHNSON

[nymack66]

Switch the solid brown and yellow/brown (two wire connector ) going to the packs from under the flywheel , not sure if this wire is trigger/sator how ever one is not side is not connecting or not working . Unplug and swap and let us know.

[Brian GT 2.6]

Just went out and tested the sator again with the DVA meter 275 volts on left and just about the same on right side also check the 2 wire plug again to make sure its getting a good conection. Stator is also almost new, conector plugs are all making good conections. Still no fire.

[flabum1017]

Check the output of the packs with the DVA, check it at the primaries at all the coils. (black cable from DVA to ground)

[nymack66]

You should have four plug connections, 2 five wire and 2 /2 wire plugs from the sator/trigger one side is not working to locate it switch the connectors from let to right, if the problem moves then its not the sator/trigger if DOES move then its pack or connections etc.
Using a flshlight look up under the flywheel if the sator is bad or burnt you will see some brown sticky stuff leaking down or swollen or for crack on the insulation on the sator

[nymack66]

Shift switch controls the stb side if wired correctly. If you swapped the startor leads and the same side is dead you have a bad pack, if after swapping stator leads the problem went to the other side it is the stator.
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[flabum1017]

Shift switch controls the stb side if wired correctly. If you swapped the startor leads and the same side is dead you have a bad pack, if after swapping stator leads the problem went to the other side it is the stator.
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No shift switch on this one.... it's a crossflow

[nymack66]

I stand corrected :)

[Brian GT 2.6]

If both power packs work on one side (right side) it should work on the left side right ? I'll check the power pack with the DVA meter in the morrning, but I swaped sides and they both work on right side:confused: Stator is like new . This thing is really giving me trouble . Not sure what to do . Do you think a power pack could still be bad ? I have fire on right side only .

[nymack66]

I bet my experience on the Sator , its not the pack ..Remove the flywheel you will see the damage to the sator trust me on this one !

[EMDSAPMGR]

Unplug the red plug on the wiring harness under the cowl. Jump the starter and see if you have fire.

[Brian GT 2.6]

I unpluged the main wire harness red plug and hooked another omc control box to it . Still no fire on left side. Now it looks like I have no volts coming out of left side of timer base. I just tested it. It 's a brand new part just put it on yesterday. Could flywheel be the problem ? It looks clean underneath.

[nymack66]

The flywheel is NOT the problem , If it was asuming its has broken magnets or shifted it will create erratic firing etc , NOT complete shutdown on one side , Again remove the flywheel (cost zero) and do a inspection of both timer base and sator you will see your problem , if it is the trigger it will show burnt or crack ...don't hold me to that ..remove it and test it call CDI they will help you with the test its easy ..

[Brian GT 2.6]

Both are brand new, no cracks or burned spots and no brown leakys spots on stator. Flywheel is in great shape. I tested the timer base with dva meter white to purple , white to blue, then white to green. no voltage on left side. Is there any other way to test timer base. I have 17 ohms at both sides. Stator has the right voltage amounts coming out of both sides . Is there somthing that can burn a timer base out on one side , part is new, put it on yesterday

[nymack66]

I have seen bad part from the factory yes; I have seen incorrect pin-outs on brand new wiring harness. If the timer base is new then return it for another, CDI or factory will be happy to do it.

[gfinch]

Very well could be a poor crimp in the wire pin plug, either side of the plugs. Take a stick pin and insert it into the wire, then check for resistance or intermittent open connection. Where the wire bundle is held to the timer base is suspect also. If it has the pins like a looper they some times get pushed back out of the plug.

[Brian GT 2.6]

Ok , thanks for the advice. I thought my problem would be solved after replaceing the time base. This thing is driving me crazy.