HydroStream Vegas Pad??

[Mariner245]

I own a 1985 Vegas V-bottom and have a question about it's PAD? On either side of the pad there are two .250" Aluminum, 1"x1"angles cut at 5" long. Can you guys tell me if this was a factory mod or did the previous owner (original owner) add them. I've attached two pictures of them... what do you think, are they there for added stability?

Thanks for any help!!!

Scott:)

[Frank Molé]

not factory:eek: take them off and fill holes

[Mariner245]

That sucks!!! I hate when people who don't know what they are doing, add stuff on/modifications. They have been there since I've owned the boat(three years). I wounder how the boat will respond without them? :confused:

[Hydrophobic guy]

UHHHHHHHHH,
I know's howda fix dat chine walkin problem! I'll slap some angle on da back.

Another dummy who thought he was smarter than the factory. ;)
Looks as thou an easy fix at least.

[baja200merk]

that whole pad is not stock! wtf theres suppose to be little notches on the outsides of the pad :confused:

step back 2ft and take a picture :eek:

oh wait is 85 the old bottom?

[Mariner245]

I didn't know there was a old vs. new style pad on Vegas V-bottoms! What's the difference? It should be a easy fix to fill in the screw holes, just want to make sure I seal those holes right. I wounder if there will be a difference in the ride/ performance?This is my first HydroStream and the only one I've ever driven...I don't have anything to compare the way it rides to...:confused:

[Frank Molé]

I didn't know there was a old vs. new style pad on Vegas V-bottoms! What's the difference? It should be a easy fix to fill in the screw holes, just want to make sure I seal those holes right. I wounder if there will be a difference in the ride/ performance?This is my first HydroStream and the only one I've ever driven...I don't have anything to compare the way it rides to...:confused:

it will be faster in the midrange:eek: fill with 5200:cool:

[Mariner245]

Why do you think it will be faster in the mid-range?

[Frank Molé]

because up top those THINGS will be out of the water,at low to mid its like draging a ancor:eek:

[Mariner245]

Got Ya!!! heading to West marine to get some 5200. Thanks alot for your help....I'm going to take them off tonight!!!

[Frank Molé]

gota love the VEGAS:D

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa158/frankmole/4y9g42f.jpg

[Mariner245]

Your right, gotta love the Vegas!!! I wanted one since I was eight, now I've got one and love it. I wanted a XT but could not find one up here in WA State so I had to settle with the V. I love my boat it's fast and a blast to drive ( my Fiance loves it too). I'll get some pictures of it soon!That, is a awsome picture, your flyin...that's why I love these boats. How fast are you going in that picture? Your 280 must keep you honest!!:D

[Frank Molé]

thanks,thats 103-4:eek: :eek: love it:D

[baja200merk]

I had to settle with the V. I love my boat it's fast and a blast to drive ( my Fiance loves it too).

thats why the pad looks so weird, i assumed it was an xt. Get some pics! i had mine out today, got it salty much smoother ride then the action, lovin it!

Kevin

[Frank Molé]

thats why the pad looks so weird, i assumed it was an xt. Get some pics! i had mine out today, got it salty much smoother ride then the action, lovin it!

Kevin

lets see it kevin:cool:

[flabum1017]

Geesh.....that looks almost as bad as a Doelfin :eek:

[Mariner245]

Baja, between your Action and your Stream, do you have a favorit? Your action looks mean!!!

I'll take some pictures of mine tomorrow!!!

[Mariner245]

What almost looks as bad as a doelfin? If your refering to the aluminum angles I removed them already!!!;)

Thanks for all your help guys...

[gotboostedvr6]

I've seen 3 streams with that exact same angle aluminum on them in the exact same spot

[Mariner245]

Looks like my boat! Does yours have that?

[gotboostedvr6]

yes and so does my friends Vegas and my old V-king, the all look factory and all have the same bolt holes

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/gotboostedvr6/vegaspad.jpg

[bigbore]

Fill em with wood dowes (douced with resign),smooth the surface n primer paint n clearcoat.

[Mariner245]

That looks the same to me. I wounder what they were trying to fix or acomplish

[gotboostedvr6]

It helps to get on plane, doesn't affect mid range to any point that you would be able to notice, and on top end they are out of the water. i would leave them

[hydroguy21]

Hey,Guys I have 1980 venus with same alum angle on each side of the pad.I guess the genius who came up with that may have mass produced them.What happen to If its not broken dont fix it?????

[baja200merk]

Baja, between your Action and your Stream, do you have a favorit? Your action looks mean!!!

I'll take some pictures of mine tomorrow!!!

the action really isnt an action :rolleyes: its a splash of the 18 with a different bottom. I think this is why i DO NOT have to drive that boat wat so ever untill 92-93+mph. Its a joke to drive, my mom drove it to 79 with the trim tucked almost all the way in her first time in the boat :p however the vegas is much more practical, it doesnt take water over the transom while floating around hangin out. Takes the rough much much better, i was out yesterday in the salt water and when i put it back on the trailer i knew i would have gotten my arse whooped if i took the action in the same conditions. Plus the vegas is much cleaner :D

[Frank Molé]

It helps to get on plane, doesn't affect mid range to any point that you would be able to notice, and on top end they are out of the water. i would leave them

THERE JUNK,HOME OWNER JUNK:D THOSE ARE SOME BAD STRESS CRACKS..............

[baja200merk]

It helps to get on plane, doesn't affect mid range to any point that you would be able to notice, and on top end they are out of the water. i would leave them

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[baja200merk]

lets see it kevin:cool:

this? :D

http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/44516/2003621280299659206_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003621280299659206)

http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/44301/2003631155089663745_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003631155089663745)

http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/43983/2003693491648244282_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003693491648244282)

Kevin:cool:

[RONNIE]

wow is that your mom??

[baja200merk]

man u r good!

i was expecting sister :p

[Mariner245]

Kevin, nice paint!!! Here are some pictures of mine...:D

How much set back do you have?


Scott

[Mariner245]

Here are a couple more!!!

[baja200merk]

you too! :D

i have a 6in bobs hydraulic plate, was rigged when the boat was in 87. still works great :confused:

yours is a vee right? hard to see for sure pics are small. i never would have thought a tan interior would look that good!

do you have a factory bow light? i need that handle and gas cap to add to my new gauge bezels and steering wheel :p

[Mariner245]

Yes, it's a V. I'm not crazy about the tan seats, I'll be upgradeing that and the carpet soon. I also want to put new guages with red bezels in soon. My jack plate only has 2.75" of set back so I'm going to add at least 4" of setback to that, maybe even 6". It's a fun work in progress...:D

[wideglide55]

Hydrostream put them there to break the suction that the stern has against the water when you first get on plane,mine was an 85 and it had them,the Vulture had them as it was before the Vegas,my buddies late 85 model had a different pad and no bars on it. I'd leave them on if I were you.they don't affect top speed at all.

[baja200merk]

Yes, it's a V. I'm not crazy about the tan seats, I'll be upgradeing that and the carpet soon. I also want to put new guages with red bezels in soon. My jack plate only has 2.75" of set back so I'm going to add at least 4" of setback to that, maybe even 6". It's a fun work in progress...:D

i seems like most people are runnin 6+ on the xts, frank runs 9 (here comes the picture:p ) another guy was runnin 12 with a 260 on it. dono about the vees though.

[Mariner245]

Terry~
I took them off but then read the other posts to this thread and put them back on sealing the holes with 5200. Very cool boat and very cool paint...:)

Kevin~

With set back, I thought the more power you have the less set back you need. 12" of set back seems like a lot for a Vegas running a 260.:confused:

[baja200merk]

Kevin~

With set back, I thought the more power you have the less set back you need. 12" of set back seems like a lot for a Vegas running a 260.:confused:

yea me too but hes supposedly running 100 :rolleyes: with the 12in hyd plate ;) . like i said fank runs 9in manual plate and pyros got a 6 in i belive as well hes in the low 90s with a bridgeport.

cant wait to get whitey on the back and make some passes :D ;)

Kevin

[Mariner245]

So how stock is the Junk'n'Rude??

[baja200merk]

So how stock is the Junk'n'Rude??

stock sucks :rolleyes: the 7k merc tach in the vegas wont cut it ;)

kevin

[Frank Molé]

i seems like most people are runnin 6+ on the xts, frank runs 9 (here comes the picture:p ) another guy was runnin 12 with a 260 on it. dono about the vees though.

WHICH ONE:eek: LOL..........:D

[baja200merk]

this one, just to show how much setback ur runnin :p :D :eek:

isnt ur plate black now :confused:

http://i10.tinypic.com/6frzfrs.jpg

Kevin :D

[hsbob]

the hydrostream int suggest 10"set back for voyager/vegas xt. i have a 10 and 12 and both run about the same. the 200efi gets about 73 [bobs 10] and the 200xs is at 78 [w 12 para-lift].

[baja200merk]

the hydrostream int suggest 10"set back for voyager/vegas xt. i have a 10 and 12 and both run about the same. the 200efi gets about 73 [bobs 10] and the 200xs is at 78 [w 12 para-lift].

is that with a lwpu? i ran 75.6 with no low water pickup 6in back 2 190lb guys in the front seats and 20 gallons of fuel :confused: wit that 87 200 2.4

[Frank Molé]

kevin no plate is still the same,but good idea:eek: lol:D

[Mariner245]

Frank, did you experiment with different set backs. How did you arive at 9" for your set up?:)

[Frank Molé]

Frank, did you experiment with different set backs. How did you arive at 9" for your set up?:)

JUST STARTED WITH 9,AND WORKED:eek: maybe 11 would be better,not sure

[Mariner245]

I think mine is a old Land & Sea, but I'm not sure. It's hydraulic but only gives my 2.75" of set back. I want to go back at least 4" but maybe I should go back 6" with a set back plate. Any opinions:confused:

[Frank Molé]

get a fixed jack plate from stainless marine of 6 inches,then bolt you hydrolic to it:)

[Streamin101]

These aluminum strips were not an add on, they were installed from the factory on some of the 20 footers for a reason. Leave them there.:cool:
Here you can see them on my vulture.
http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/43518/2001221483301450516_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001221483301450516)

[Frank Molé]

they rot the bottom:eek:

[baja200merk]

with a properly set up boat you wouldnt know if they were there or not! how much effect could 6in of 1in angle iron have on a 20ft 800lb boat? i would take them off, put an allen key on a drill and dig out all the rot then inject westsystem

[Frank Molé]

with a properly set up boat you wouldnt know if they were there or not! how much effect could 6in of 1in angle iron have on a 20ft 800lb boat? i would take them off, put an allen key on a drill and dig out all the rot then inject westsystem

THE WINNER:D :D ;)

[Boz]

If they've been there from the factory, don't you think that the rot would have wicked far further than an allen key on a drill would get to? If they've been leaking, there's more trouble than just the area surrounding the hole. Just my thought.

[baja200merk]

if u know it "wicked" further then that then your boat should look like streamin101 right now gettin a new core ;)

kevin

[Boz]

Yup....but for those who don't know, they will now....

[Streamin101]

Well there was a reason Howard Pipkorn installed them at the factory:rolleyes:;)
If they were leaking take them off and reseal them right.

[mopowerbooth]

Frank or any one else...Do any of you guys have a new hydrostream Vegas XT and if so i would love to see the bottom pad design. I understand they have made several changes. I have an 89 XT with and Erude running 95 at 2800 ft density altitude. Lots of googies on it. I'm not sure how to add pics to a reply. I'm looking for a larger set back about 12 inches. With my current set up of 6" it requires full trim to hit max speed. How hi can you set the engine? it looks to be 2 to 2.5" below the pad. I'm trying to get into the triple digits but the altitude is killing me. I have never run this powerhead at sea level but the old stocker was 12 mph faset down there.