24 cc superboat build pictures

[LI SUPERBOAT]

2008 24ft cc superboat pictures ,should be rigged and in the water by late march,200 mercury ,this boat will be a clamming ,party boat ,hoping to get low 60s,its a frenids boat will be another s.o.b in the baldwin bay !!

[ghost28]

nice....cant wait to see it done....

[Ghost S84]

Nice... another South Shore Nassau County SOB

[THE HOSER]

Very nice
how much for something like that ?

[LI SUPERBOAT]

all said and done ,rigged 48k with new motor ,were putting a 2000 200 so he saving alot and a frenid is rigging it , down the road hes moving up to a 300xs,should be something little different then the norm

[mragu]

all said and done ,rigged 48k with new motor ,were putting a 2000 200 so he saving alot and a frenid is rigging it , down the road hes moving up to a 300xs,should be something little different then the norm

Larry, Is 48K with the 200 or 300xs?

[Superbender]

I was just wondering how many orders they got for that fine lookin boat before they retooled the top deck?:rolleyes: If they could just spend some time on there 21 deck mold it would be good as new

[RobF]

im sure of Conehead could turn a profit on remaking the 21 he would have done it a long time ago?

[Dirk Pitt]

im sure of Conehead could turn a profit on remaking the 21 he would have done it a long time ago?

Rob,
some times people try to reinvent the wheel, in the case of the 21 old was better......:D

[EddyT]

im sure of Conehead could turn a profit on remaking the 21 he would have done it a long time ago?

ARE YOU KIDDING ROB, DONT YOU SEE THE TREND GOING ON. SUPER RESTO`S ALL OVER THE BOARDS. YOU CANT FIND A 21 SUPER ANYWHERE, PLUS THE OLD CHALLENGER MOLD PAYED FOR ITSELF MANY TIMES OVER. FIX THE OLD MOLD OR MAKE A NEW ONE. GUYS ARE DYING FOR THIS BOAT, MAKE SOME NEW ONES WITH THE OLD DECK. GET THEM OUT THERE FOR A MODEST PRICE AND YOULL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.YOU DONT NEED 10 ORDERS FOR FOR COEN TO REPAIR THE MOLD EITHER, HE OWES THE S.O.B CROWD THIS BOAT

[baja200merk]

that deck design is twice my age and i love it... my girl likes the deck and she saw one with the old original interior with the red and white stripes :eek: lol

[mragu]

ARE YOU KIDDING ROB, DONT YOU SEE THE TREND GOING ON. SUPER RESTO`S ALL OVER THE BOARDS. YOU CANT FIND A 21 SUPER ANYWHERE, PLUS THE OLD CHALLENGER MOLD PAYED FOR ITSELF MANY TIMES OVER. FIX THE OLD MOLD OR MAKE A NEW ONE. GUYS ARE DYING FOR THIS BOAT, MAKE SOME NEW ONES WITH THE OLD DECK. GET THEM OUT THERE FOR A MODEST PRICE AND YOULL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.YOU DONT NEED 10 ORDERS FOR FOR COEN TO REPAIR THE MOLD EITHER, HE OWES THE S.O.B CROWD THIS BOAT


Its much cheaper to restore than buy and build a new one. Even with having all the work done professionally. Every one gets a chuckle out of the money I have invested in the boat, but look at what it would cost to have built new. I remember a apprx 2006 Yellow 22 Activator that the guy had about 65K into and could not get 25K for it. I am not saying I could get what I will have into this boat but my loss could never come close to that. (BTW, it is not for sale)
Watch the price and availability of these and all "old" boats closely, their value is going up every day.

[RobF]

ARE YOU KIDDING ROB, DONT YOU SEE THE TREND GOING ON. SUPER RESTO`S ALL OVER THE BOARDS. YOU CANT FIND A 21 SUPER ANYWHERE, PLUS THE OLD CHALLENGER MOLD PAYED FOR ITSELF MANY TIMES OVER. FIX THE OLD MOLD OR MAKE A NEW ONE. GUYS ARE DYING FOR THIS BOAT, MAKE SOME NEW ONES WITH THE OLD DECK. GET THEM OUT THERE FOR A MODEST PRICE AND YOULL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.YOU DONT NEED 10 ORDERS FOR FOR COEN TO REPAIR THE MOLD EITHER, HE OWES THE S.O.B CROWD THIS BOAT

I hear you, but being passionate and able to turn a profit are 2 different things.
The business man in me says if there was money to be made why would he not be doing it?
Intimidator was the same styling, how many did they sell? 4-5 since 2003?

[FX10 Superboats]

Coen would have made new molds if there was enough interest. Remember a few years ago, I posted that Coen would make a new deck mold. All he wanted was definate yesses and deposits. I think there were around 2 yeses. Then the thread was hi jacked by someone involved with Tuff. Most guys aren't looking to spend 25k for a new boat, when they can get a used one for much less. hell Herb was asking peanuts for the Intimidators, and they really didn't sell either.

[LI SUPERBOAT]

i not sure last i asked cohen i was some were around 28k hull ,15k motor,5k rigging, but as you no mike there alot of different ways of doing these boats ,my buddys is smiple as possaibe ,iam sure they cant get up there ,as fare as the old mold thats a start of a new genration of old school supers ,if it ant broke dont fix it ,its a great design hope john brings it back one day

[EddyT]

[QUOTE=FX10 Superboats;1305190]Coen would have made new molds if there was enough interest. Remember a few years ago, I posted that Coen would make a new deck mold. All he wanted was definate yesses and deposits. I think there were around 2 yeses. Then the thread was hi jacked by someone involved with Tuff. Most guys aren't looking to spend 25k for a new boat, when they can get a used one for much less. hell Herb was asking peanuts for the Intimidators, and they really didn't sell either.[

im referring to that post, 2 orders were plenty to build. you build boats all your life and you say you cant get that mold ready?? everyone knows "superboat "the name, if you made some for modest price they would sell themselves. intimadators sold for 15K $$ and is a great boat. forget the red one it probably ran over some rock or ground. ive seen 2 intimadators up close and there well built for the $$. these guy are buying 21 supers for 6k$$ and throwing 6k+$$ into them to fix them and there still not new. all im saying is that 21 supers are in high demand now

[Ghost S84]

The 21 supers are most certainly in high demand but barely anyone has the money now to get a new one...that same guy who would love to get a new boat has the money to buy a 20+ year old 21 and restore it somewhat...thats why so many people selling there super's are asking really high prices way over what the boat is actually worth because people are willing to pay top dollar b/c its the only option they have if they wanna go fast...correct me if Im wrong FX but john said he only sold 1 21' since 2003

[mike24]

I agree ED OLD SCHOOL 21 transom knees fair price make a few get them out there hey people cant say they are gonna buy now or later but things change and they may and and with gas prices people are coming back to sob boats also young guys who see these boats run, just like the older guys did when they were young and eventually got one well the only way for that to happen is to have a PRODUCT for them to see and buy and people are buying ,look 22 progression going out the door past few years and they aint cheep there needs to be alternative tothe p22 and a choice and competition , besides the old school look is awesome and guys want them so dont let them die

[mragu]

The 21 supers are most certainly in high demand but barely anyone has the money now to get a new one...that same guy who would love to get a new boat has the money to buy a 20+ year old 21 and restore it somewhat...thats why so many people selling there super's are asking really high prices way over what the boat is actually worth because people are willing to pay top dollar b/c its the only option they have if they wanna go fast...correct me if Im wrong FX but john said he only sold 1 21' since 2003

if people are willing to pay "top dollar" then that is what a boat or any product is ACTUALLY and REALISTICALLY worth. It just may not be to certain individuals and thats called "missing the boat":)

[Dirk Pitt]

If you looking at old school,quality:) 21's, take a look at those Tuff Boats

[EddyT]

If you looking at old school,quality:) 21's, take a look at those Tuff Boats

come on dirk, atleast send them to a 22 progression. like mike24 said, progression has had no problems selling 22`s in these past years. and progression doesnt wait for customers to order one either. superboat is a well established company and you tell me he cant build a couple of boats and sell them.

[Superbender]

If you looking at old school,quality:) 21's, take a look at those Tuff Boats

That may not be a bad idea:rolleyes:

[Dirk Pitt]

come on dirk, atleast send them to a 22 progression. like mike24 said, progression has had no problems selling 22`s in these past years. and progression doesnt wait for customers to order one either. superboat is a well established company and you tell me he cant build a couple of boats and sell them.

Eddy,
I thought we were talking about old school 21 look, I cant speak for John, but Im sure if there were a real market for these boats he would build them, but I think it becomes very costly to by new, how much does a new 22p cost, or a new Tuff, or a new 21 Superboat cost? Add a 300xs, rigging, guages, steering, trailer, boat cover, no matter how I look at these numbers, $60,000 to $70,000 is not out of line, add the cost of insurance, fuel and oil into the equation, and this becomes quit a large commitment.
Then again there are those $15000.00 throw away boats that can be bought new.
Thats why there isnt demand for these boats new. The above boat builders know this all to well, now a used 21 or 22 for 1/3rd the price looks like a good deal;) even if one has to invest 5 or 6 thousand to make it new:D

[mragu]

Eddy,
I thought we were talking about old school 21 look, I cant speak for John, but Im sure if there were a real market for these boats he would build them, but I think it becomes very costly to by new, how much does a new 22p cost, or a new Tuff, or a new 21 Superboat cost? Add a 300xs, rigging, guages, steering, trailer, boat cover, no matter how I look at these numbers, $60,000 to $70,000 is not out of line, add the cost of insurance, fuel and oil into the equation, and this becomes quit a large commitment.
Then again there are those $15000.00 throw away boats that can be bought new.
Thats why there isnt demand for these boats new. The above boat builders know this all to well, now a used 21 or 22 for 1/3rd the price looks like a good deal;) even if one has to invest 5 or 6 thousand to make it new:D

What he said:cool:

[ghost28]

come on dirk, atleast send them to a 22 progression. like mike24 said, progression has had no problems selling 22`s in these past years. and progression doesnt wait for customers to order one either. superboat is a well established company and you tell me he cant build a couple of boats and sell them.

eddy....there is a HUGE difference between a 22 progression and a 21 Superboat or Tuffboat....some like the hard chiseled lines of a Progression and some do not....both boats are classic looking but to most its a matter of preference....personally i would never buy a 22 Progression over a 21 superboat....and then theres the way they run....22 progressions are notoriously hard to drive fast...they lean and do all kinds of funny things that a 21 Super/Tuff bottom doeas not....... the reason why you hear about 100+ 22 Progressions and dont see it that often is that most of the times the owner cant drive it that fast....it doesnt make them a bad boat but definetly a different boat...personally i had a hard time choosing when it came to my 24...i love both boats equally the progression and the Super...

back to what everyone is asking....more than likely John can not turn enough profit out of the 21s to justify making a new deck mold at this point....when it comes down to it the smaller boats are becoming way too expensive to build....ask herb to build you a 21 intimidator...they aint going to be that cheap anymore....resin costs have skyrocketed....

[mike24]

i think this is where superboat could bridge the gap between as dirk says 15k boat and expensive p22 tuff etc which the 15k boat doesnt look like super and doesnt have the following ,with wide variety of motor options and rigging options new and used you could put together a package fairly reasonable some people rather have new boat with an older motor ,nothing wrong with 90s 3.0 liters ,so fair priced 21 super would be real nice

[RobF]

it aint the price of resin, its the whole package.

there comes a time to turn a profit, if it was profitable no one would have to talk about, they would still build it, and people would still be buying them.

[Ryan mcc]

i think the new deck can work just needs some tooling. i feel if you keep the top line of the deck running with the rubrail all the way to the transome insted of jumping up 6'' like it does, than pitch the windsheld to have something like a 6" to 4" to 2" run down the side just past the cockpit you may have something i would buy

[EddyT]

Eddy,
I thought we were talking about old school 21 look, I cant speak for John, but Im sure if there were a real market for these boats he would build them, but I think it becomes very costly to by new, how much does a new 22p cost, or a new Tuff, or a new 21 Superboat cost? Add a 300xs, rigging, guages, steering, trailer, boat cover, no matter how I look at these numbers, $60,000 to $70,000 is not out of line, add the cost of insurance, fuel and oil into the equation, and this becomes quit a large commitment.
Then again there are those $15000.00 throw away boats that can be bought new.
Thats why there isnt demand for these boats new. The above boat builders know this all to well, now a used 21 or 22 for 1/3rd the price looks like a good deal;) even if one has to invest 5 or 6 thousand to make it new:D

dirk 42k is all this boat should be give or take a few. they got the mold for a song, basic glass and resins ive been told or read. 25k for the boat is high but reasonable, i would hope that is with interior and a fuel tank. 10k for a leftover 200 or a 225 with low hrs and a warranty,hyd steering 700$$, gauges 500$, cover 200-800$$,trailer1200$, rigging1200$, some other misc but your in the water doing 70+mph. if the buyer does all the rigging he saves alot$$. it dont need a 300XS, latham, livorsi,or other high end products. supers allways had the basics there seating, there glass and core lay up and no knee bracing. there are plenty of guys out there who could set this boat up for even less$$.

[Dirk Pitt]

dirk 42k is all this boat should be give or take a few. they got the mold for a song, basic glass and resins ive been told or read. 25k for the boat is high but reasonable, i would hope that is with interior and a fuel tank. 10k for a leftover 200 or a 225 with low hrs and a warranty,hyd steering 700$$, gauges 500$, cover 200-800$$,trailer1200$, rigging1200$, some other misc but your in the water doing 70+mph. if the buyer does all the rigging he saves alot$$. it dont need a 300XS, latham, livorsi,or other high end products. supers allways had the basics there seating, there glass and core lay up and no knee bracing. there are plenty of guys out there who could set this boat up for even less$$.
Eddy,
your right, if its done like that, I was caculating everything new, with top shelf stuff, and max power,
And not to say your way is bad,I was giving a manufactorers out the door, everything new,example, which would be in that range, but who are you talking about when you say they got the mold for a song? and whos $ 25000.00 boat are you refering to?

[FX10 Superboats]

Dirk, I think Eddy is referring to the price Coen said he would build the "New" Legends for, between 26-29k. Buying anything new is expensive, but your the original owner. The boat is and was built for you. Your colors, or color scheme, upholstery, rigging. That in itself means alot to alot of people.
But alot of people don't have that kind of $. That is why they buy used. They can customise it to their liking.

[EddyT]

Eddy,
your right, if its done like that, I was caculating everything new, with top shelf stuff, and max power,
And not to say your way is bad,I was giving a manufactorers out the door, everything new,example, which would be in that range, but who are you talking about when you say they got the mold for a song? and whos $ 25000.00 boat are you refering to?

i thought when FX10 said john would make the new supers it was 25K. its 26k$$. the numbers$$ still work for an entry level 70+mph 21 in the 40K$$ range. most guys who own these 21`s can probably turn a wrench and can set this boat up for even less $$. the song$$ is referring to what john paid for the challenger molds at auction. according to T2X do a search.

[Ghost S84]

i thought when FX10 said john would make the new supers it was 25K. its 26k$$. the numbers$$ still work for an entry level 70+mph 21 in the 40K$$ range. most guys who own these 21`s can probably turn a wrench and can set this boat up for even less $$. the song$$ is referring to what john paid for the challenger molds at auction. according to T2X do a search.

T2X would know the answer too b/c he got the other set of molds:D (Shadow).
John said his problem is people wanting to spend the money for a new boat. There is no reason to put money into a product that is not demanded. What is in demand is the old school look at OLD SCHOOL PRICE. In the 80's the enitre superboat package sold for around 10k and thats what people can and are willing to spend. People will not buy a new boat for 55k when they can get used for 30-40k less.

[FX10 Superboats]

Here are a few pictures from today. The boat is basically done. All that needs to be done is screw down the console and leaning post ( the leaning post is on order)
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[LI SUPERBOAT]

Wow That Thing Came Out Sick,good Thing The 24 Mold Is Still In Good Condtion ,boat Came Out Perfect,can Wait To Run It

[Ryan mcc]

is the transom setup for 20" or 25" motor ? what was the owners resining for an open transom insted of running a closed with a setback bracket ?

[GTO GEORGE]

2008 24ft cc superboat pictures ,should be rigged and in the water by late march,200 mercury ,this boat will be a clamming ,party boat ,hoping to get low 60s,its a frenids boat will be another s.o.b in the baldwin bay !!Low 60s might be a little optimistic, with a single 200; maybe even low 50s might be a dream.

[LI SUPERBOAT]

A Full Deck 24 Super Does 58 With A 200 This Has A Step Bottom And Weight Less???? What Do You Think

[ghost28]

even the old style 24 full deck boats with cabin and all went mid 50s with a 200....

my full deck step bottom 24 with a 250 mounted on the transom no set back 3/4 tank of fuel and 2 people does 67gps.....

i would say a nice 200 will get high 50s to 60 in that boat....i am sure it weighs alot less than mine....

what is the predicted weight savings on the CC compared to the full deck rick???

[FX10 Superboats]

is the transom setup for 20" or 25" motor ? what was the owners resining for an open transom insted of running a closed with a setback bracket ?

The boat is set up for a 25" motor. He didn't want the well because he wanted as much room as possible. Also, this isn't a standard transom of 2 plys of 3/4". Thi s transom is 3 plys. It's almost 3" thick.

[FX10 Superboats]

Low 60s might be a little optimistic, with a single 200; maybe even low 50s might be a dream.

George, I guess you don't know the 24' CC very well. This hull will easily do 60+ with a single 200. Superbash was at the shop, and I lifted the bow up off the cradle. ;) It's fairly light.

[FX10 Superboats]

even the old style 24 full deck boats with cabin and all went mid 50s with a 200....

my full deck step bottom 24 with a 250 mounted on the transom no set back 3/4 tank of fuel and 2 people does 67gps.....

i would say a nice 200 will get high 50s to 60 in that boat....i am sure it weighs alot less than mine....

what is the predicted weight savings on the CC compared to the full deck rick???

Wont know till it's weighed. ;)

[LI SUPERBOAT]

Its Thick

[ghost28]

great job rick...cant wait to see this out there....

[CMC]

Can the boat be made with a small setback bracket/ platform? Also, is there a way of building a back seat with sun bad? Thinking it would be great to have a full bench and a place for the lady to lay out. What type of surface is the floor? Its tough to tell from the pictures.

[FX10 Superboats]

The 24 CC can also be made with a full transom. You could mount a Stainless marine setback/swim platform. We made a mold for a section of deck to fill in across the back. his way you can put in a bench across the back. If you want to pay for the tooling, I'm sure Coen will make you a sunpad for it. ;)

[LI SUPERBOAT]

john will build them to your specs ,just cost go"s up,you have some great ideas this boat is made just how the new owner wanted ,iam sure if you talk to john he can make it how you like

[FX10 Superboats]

Can the boat be made with a small setback bracket/ platform? Also, is there a way of building a back seat with sun bad? Thinking it would be great to have a full bench and a place for the lady to lay out. What type of surface is the floor? Its tough to tell from the pictures.

CMC, here are a few pictures of the full transom on the 24 CC. As you can see, the deck is fully closed in . A bench can easily be put along the transom. This 24 CC is getting a 4 cylinder IO for Coens daughter. You can thank her for bringing the deck mold out of retirement. It wasn't really in bad shape though.
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[jerry]

maybe whne coen sells his next boat , he might invest in some new lighting ? HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LI SUPERBOAT]

hey jerry thats funny becuse my buddy thast is getting that new 24cc just brought john 10 new lights all 400 watts ,it will be brite soon

[FX10 Superboats]

Thank god!. We have that Lithium light in the woodshop, which is prety bright. But the rest of the shop is alittle dim, even with all the lights on.

[kehoutek]

this 2002 24 superboat for sale?

[FX10 Superboats]

this 2002 24 superboat for sale?

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[SUPAJAY]

4 cyl is sweet, It should be reallllllllly economical !

[FX10 Superboats]

Boat was picked up today. Smiles from one side to the other. Sorry I didn't have the camera with me.

[LI SUPERBOAT]

i willl post pictures as soon as the weather is good ,my couisn could not be happyer great boat all around