NIU shooting.

[Switzer Maniac]

There was a shooting at NIU. They're reporting 15 people were transported by Kishwaukee Hospital. The shooter is dead.

Leave it to my generation to start sending this nation to hell in a hand basket. What the hell? I'm ashamed to say that I'm part of this generation. Not only are we nuts, but we also expect handouts. This seriously pisses me off.

[mirage243]

Whats NIU?

[Switzer Maniac]

Northern Illinois University. Sorry about that. Il native here.

[SnakeBit]

Whats NIU?
Northern Ill University
Bad scene another shooter maniac gone wild!!
Switz your generation is doing fine Don't forget the young men and women sacrificing - defending - dying for our country!!! Someday they will be talking about another great generation it will be yours!! So don't get down on yourself or your age bracket you guy's have alot to be proud of!!

[Switzer Maniac]

Thanks snake. I appreciate it. It just sucks man. This is twice in two years. My buddy's dad works with a guy whose daughter is in that class, but she skipped today. this is just crazy man.

[Hottrucks]

it's the next generation that scares Me

DUDE....look for the other news story where they want to bust the cops balls....if that was my kid I would have kicked his asss and then when he gets on the news he's there like a punk with his hat all side ways talking all "like the cop was so rude" WTF someone should kick his old mans asss too........
the worst thing is I/we thought we where tough guys to but at least we settled things outside with a good old fist fight and 10 min. later where where drinking beers like old friends........dam i miss those days

[SnakeBit]

Thanks snake. I appreciate it. It just sucks man. This is twice in two years. My buddy's dad works with a guy whose daughter is in that class, but she skipped today. this is just crazy man.
I hope she is okay even though she was lucky enough not to be there. I am sure her pain and anxiety will be no different then those who were there. It will take the best of your generation to work thru the hurt and come to accept that what happened did so because of one indvidual and not a group or generation. I want to believe the person who did this like the ones in the past are sick - It is just very hard to come to grips with what makes them sick and have to result to such horrific crimes.

[Switzer Maniac]

Yeah. I don't get what's going on though. This stuff never happened back when my dad was in school. I mean, think about it. Back in the 80's and 70's all you had to worry about was a fist fight. And when that was over, you were able to walk away. Now you have to worry about people coming back with guns. It's such bull.

[E-tec1]

i just got off the fone with my kid, his wifes brother was one of the ones shot, sounds like its not critcal but dont know yet,talk about a wake up, man

[E-tec1]

he'll be ok, just minor wounds, hey hillary, what u gonna do about this stuff if ur elected?????? how bout the rest of all u useless centipedes that crawl around at our expense???? bet they have no answer at all

[Maureen M]

wow, glad he is ok.:eek:
Prayers for those who are not, and to their families. :(

[E-tec1]

its just so sad that even the kids tryin to better themselves are the victims of this crap

[Forkin' Crazy]

it's the next generation that scares Me

DUDE....look for the other news story where they want to bust the cops balls....if that was my kid I would have kicked his asss and then when he gets on the news he's there like a punk with his hat all side ways talking all "like the cop was so rude" WTF someone should kick his old mans asss too........
the worst thing is I/we thought we where tough guys to but at least we settled things outside with a good old fist fight and 10 min. later where where drinking beers like old friends........dam i miss those days

I agree with that... although I don't miss the fighting! :o

[Switzer Maniac]

Yeah, even when I was a kid (I mean elementary school...I'm only in college) we never had to put up with this crap. This didn't start until 98 or 99. I say, somehow there needs to be a damn reform and we need to go back to the days of a fist fight and then beer. I'd just like to experience it. It seems like it was a better time.

[M_K]

Leave it to my generation to start sending this nation to hell in a hand basket. What the hell? I'm ashamed to say that I'm part of this generation. Not only are we nuts, but we also expect handouts. This seriously pisses me off.

This is very tragic. Every generation has it's fair share of bad apples. There are plenty from my generation like the kids that committed the browns chicken murders in palatine. But yes, these instances do seem to get worse and more frequent as the years go by. As long as there are people like you Switz, your generation will be fine.

[Switzer Maniac]

Thanks M_K. I kind of get yelled at by the girlfriend last night for saying that. I realize I jumped the gun on that and let my emotions get in the way of clear thinking. It really is unfortunate that people believe that they have to resort to this type of violence. I remember the Brown's chicken murders. If you want to hear something REALLY freaky, there was a guy in Carol Stream that was raping, murdering, and chopping women up in the mid to late 90's. He lived DOWN THE STREET from me. They found out that he had murdered 7 women and buried them in the Wayne forest preserve. It was nuts because one of my buddies lived next door to the guy. Anyway, thanks again for the compliment. I realize my generation will be ok. It just seems that the bad over shadow the good at times.

[Liqui-Fly]

I don't know what the story is with this, but coping skills are the next thing we are removing from our children. It's basically a three pronged attack using pills, political correctness tied to fair/equal, and week parent's that can't say no.

[Switzer Maniac]

Actually Liqui-fly, you're right on. The kid (not really a kid he was a 27 year old grad student at U of I) was medicated and stopped taking his medication 2 weeks ago. They said he was behaving erratically and stuff. And sure enough, he drives up to NIU and shoots the place up.

[Hottrucks]

think about if everyone carried guns I know it sounds DUMB......BUT

someone stands up on a plane and says I'm taking over....Ummmm No your not

someone walks into a mall and starts shooting ...ummmm No your not....

It might curb violence so I guess it's cowboy up!!!!

[mirage243]

Like your thinking Hottrucks, kill or get killed.

[Switzer Maniac]

HAHA! totally agree. however, we would need to educate EVERYONE on HOW to carry a gun.

[Switzer Maniac]

So... apparently now the WBC (Westboro Baptist Church) is not only protesting the funerals of dead soldiers, but also the tragedy that happened yesterday. These people go to funerals for soldiers and hold up signs that say "Thank God for dead solders" and "Thank God for IEDs". Their main purpose is that God is persecuting the US for allowing and accepting homosexuality.

[mirage243]

HAHA! totally agree. however, we would need to educate EVERYONE on HOW to carry a gun.
Loaded with the hammer cocked........thats how you carry it.

[Hottrucks]

Loaded with the hammer cocked........thats how you carry it.


yea I understand 16 down and one in the hole

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[racerx]

HOTTRUCKS You hit the nail on the head....The killings happened 20 miles from my house,my wife works at the hospital where they were all takin,she said it was a mess,,and now all the reporters are there and making it even worse,,god bless

[flabum1017]

No respect. that is what it boils down to these days. You see more of these kinds of stories plus cop shootings, car jackings, home invasion robberies and a slew of other violent crimes. The root cause is that the judicial system has failed miserably. These criminals get only a proverbial slap on the wrist (if they don't get killed while committing the crime) from the courts. Nobody is afraid of doing any crimes anymore because there is no strong execution of law. Even the "first offenders" such as these punks who shoot up schools have no fear of the law because there is no real consequence for their actions. A lot of this come from upbringing and the lack of values. There are a lot of things that can be blamed, but it all starts at home.


On the gun note:
I am all for every law-abiding American to carry a firearm for self-defense and am for laws to protect us if we happen to kill a carjacker or burglar. The pronblem is, the states have control of who and how weapons may be carried and used....I think the Feds should have that control..... Let all law abiding citizens carry and give them amunity if they kill someone in self-defense or in the defense of someone else. Too many peole go to jail for being a victim. And at the same time, make it a federal offense and stiff penalties if you use the weapon or kill someone in anger.

[Switzer Maniac]

I agree that if somone kills another person in self-defense that they should be granted immnunity. However, there are a ton of people out there that don't know how to carry a gun. Loaded with the hammer cocked isn't the way to do it. Believe me, I'm a huge proponent of guns because I'm a hunter. But there's stuff that ensure the safety of others around you that you need to be aware of. You can't just give a gun to any idiot and say "here protect yourself." Because that's when the whole "weakling with a gun" thing comes into play and they start fights because they have that protection on them. And the more the American people are exposed to that idea, the more they are going to be willing to just take their aggression out through the use of firearms.