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stvhelm
09-11-2007, 09:45 AM
911 loose change anyone see this?
very long but definetly worth watching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
and newer 2nd edition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yx9NRX37SM&mode=related&search=
I dont know what to say.:confused:
Liqui-Fly
09-11-2007, 11:01 AM
Funny thing is the war profiteers are really the ones that prey on the ignorant. If you're asking is I think you're stupid Helmut I guess my answer is going to have to be emphatically, yes. This isn't the first time you've posted crap like this and to do it on 9-11 is absolutely disgraceful.
Liqui-Fly
09-11-2007, 11:05 AM
For those that didn't stop reading in second grade
http://michellemalkin.com/2006/09/10/the-911-tinfoil-hat-brigade/
Tony Montana
09-11-2007, 11:54 AM
very well done Crockumentary. Looks like a big pile of Michale Moore crap, but i am sure it will sucker a few in to the conspiracy theories.:rolleyes:
Liqui-Fly
09-11-2007, 12:10 PM
We need to stop laughing at this crap in this country. The loooney left now gets to stroll into Congress and screech like mental patients in front of 4 star Generals without a billy club upside the head...disgraceful. There is no leadership...no more treason....no more sedition.
1BadAction
09-11-2007, 12:25 PM
this thread sucks and is in piss poor taste. I cant F'n believe someone that witnessed 9/11 and went through it personally would post (and even scarier, believe) that horse sh1t.
1BadAction
09-11-2007, 12:29 PM
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yep... thats real fake... the plane, the people... its all a conspiricy by George Bush so he could go to iraq. :rolleyes:
Tony Montana
09-11-2007, 01:08 PM
1badaction, maybe I took it wrong, but I did not read helmut's post as beleiveing it, more like disbelief.
Lanceonthelake
09-11-2007, 01:22 PM
911 loose change anyone see this?
very long but definetly worth watching
I dont know what to say.:confused:
Don't throw him under the bus, It doesn't hurt to ask questions.
This has been out for a while now.
mr.clean
09-11-2007, 01:45 PM
That's a real old movie that gets a face lift every time one of the idiotic theories gets debunked. Scary thing is it's spawned a whole internet culture of moronic followers that actually buy into it's half baked scenarios. Alex Jones has made a very comfortable living off of 9/11 and gullible sheeple :mad: These guys make Michael Moore look like George Washington :rolleyes: Helmut always seemed like a bright guy so on that note I don't know what to say either :o
Liqui-Fly
09-11-2007, 03:39 PM
Don't throw him under the bus, It doesn't hurt to ask questions.
This has been out for a while now.
It's that very attitude that drives all this useless time consuming and treasonous behavior. Then again America hasd become the "there is no such thing as a stupid question" kind of nation. No facts anymore just perceptions and feelings. This crap feeds into the 25% in this country that are utter mouth breethers that that don't scoff at a dip***** like Roisie O'donnel when she says fire can't melt steel on national television. The statement in itself is utterly stupid...not only that but the idea that steel has to melt to deform is at an entire additional level of stupid. It's time for us to stop suffering for our idiots.
stvhelm
09-11-2007, 05:23 PM
you know what? open your eyes and dont have such a 1 track mind. i got an email this morning with this link and I knew if I posted it here you'd chime in. always do. Did you even watch it? facts are facts and like I said, "I dont know what to think" other than this country is f#$% up.
So, dont go bad mouthing me over some petty little thread about a film. If you dont like it, tuff! now go do something productive and fix your boat.:rolleyes:
they are coming out with a 3rd edition.........
why?
because alot of thier stories from the first 2 have been proven to be BS.
Liqui-Fly
09-11-2007, 07:00 PM
I've seen and read everything about it....shall we debate? You think this country is f'ed up? Open my eyes to nonsense....no thanks.
CDave
09-11-2007, 09:29 PM
Mystery of the Urinal Deuce
Bush is behind all the 9/11 conspiracy sites. The government runs them! GO to this link for the TRUTH!!!!
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/11/video-south-park-spoofs-truther-morons/
GPRACING
09-11-2007, 09:37 PM
Its sad that all these lies & conspiracies get pimped as truth.Whats even worse is the # of people that buy into this garbage.My father-in-law is one of them-A die hard Bush hater.Trust me,you aint gonna change their mind either...
mr.clean
09-12-2007, 08:53 AM
Quotations must be identical to the original, using a narrow segment of the source. They must match the source document word for word and must be attributed to the original author. Credit where credit is due ;)
Riverratt
09-12-2007, 09:10 AM
Could you two dumb it down a little so I can understand what the hell you just said? You guys are getting very deep now.:p
mr.clean
09-12-2007, 10:33 AM
Three minutes thought would suffice to find this out; but thought is irksome and three minutes is a long time.
Google "IGNORANCE QUOTES" to find it for yourself.........................
Alfred Edward Housman ;)
dtsblack
09-12-2007, 10:45 AM
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dtsblack
09-12-2007, 10:46 AM
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Lanceonthelake
09-12-2007, 12:24 PM
Quotations must be identical to the original, using a narrow segment of the source. They must match the source document word for word and must be attributed to the original author. Credit where credit is due ;)
Power is always illegitimate unless it proves itself to be legitimate. The burden of proof is on the authority. If it can't be proven, it should be dismantled. Noam Chomsky
dtsblack
09-12-2007, 12:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGd0t8v-d4 Noam Chomsky on 911 (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM Noam Chomsky on 911 (part 2)
it is a possibility he is using a bit of sarcasm
and it is also a possibility he is being literal. your perspective will illuminate what you are willing to belive and shadow all ells.
from our limited point view, of what had happened, we are susceptible to what others inform us of. almost everything is an opinion, no matter how well organized, unless one is speaking about him or herself. even then it's often one is not willing to delve into the true nature of things.
ones Ego(self identity) is slavishly abiding to its emotional investments and attachments, often stemming from its insecurities. striving to become what you belive you are not. perhaps it is an internal(self) or external(social) striving, fundamentally their is no difference.
the emotion eliciting tactics(music ect.) used in Loose Change 9/11 are , perhaps, a tell tail sign of the producers intentions. the information presented in a chronological organized fashion would have been sufficient.
transomstand
09-12-2007, 01:56 PM
"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, um, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq and everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa and should help Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future."
Miss Teen South Carolina
daytrader
09-12-2007, 02:44 PM
Sounds like a D.F.C. to me.
CDave
09-12-2007, 03:46 PM
Our government politicians can't take a crap or at least go to the boys room, wink wink, without someone leaking it to the press, BUT our government, with that so called moron George Bush at the helm, can mastermind the greatest covert act ever, pull it off and NO ONE leaks one word about it. :rolleyes:
GPRACING
09-12-2007, 05:50 PM
Transomstand-You had to go there!:D Not everyone in SC is stupid as that girl.She is a special kind of stupid IMOP.The sad thing is some news outfit gave her a chance to anser the question again and her 2nd anser just confirmed how ignorant she really is!
transomstand
09-12-2007, 06:20 PM
Transomstand-You had to go there!:D Not everyone in SC is stupid as that girl.She is a special kind of stupid IMOP.The sad thing is some news outfit gave her a chance to anser the question again and her 2nd anser just confirmed how ignorant she really is!
Sorry, didn't mean it as a slight to South Carolina. I do think, unfortunately, that her answer was a pretty good representation of what the education system in our country produces. I deal with the public in my job, and I see high schoolers, and college students who could easily communicate with her, on her level.
Pete
Dutch
09-12-2007, 08:09 PM
This thread isnt even worth debating over..Helmut is one of
the few good stand up guys out there. I guess he should have
been too closed minded to even watch the show. Watching this
and finding it interesting must also make him a scum bag liberal.
Unreal. I have known Helmut for almost ten years now and he
has never once done anything even remotely disgraceful. He is
one of the very few people on this board that never gets into the
"debates" on this board just to jump on the band wagon and call
each other names. Opinions are like butt holes, your's stinks and
mine doesn't.:D
stokernick
09-12-2007, 08:11 PM
duh,yup,totally!!!
Lanceonthelake
09-12-2007, 08:49 PM
This thread isnt even worth debating over.. Opinions are like butt holes, your's stinks and
mine doesn't.:D
Thanks Dutch!!
transomstand
09-12-2007, 08:51 PM
Opinions are like butt holes, your's stinks and
mine doesn't.:D
I don't care what you say, I still like Miss South Carolina:p
Lanceonthelake
09-12-2007, 09:06 PM
I don't care what you say, I still like Miss South Carolina:p
That was not an opinion,
That was a statement:eek: :D
Charlie M
09-12-2007, 09:41 PM
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GPRACING
09-12-2007, 10:08 PM
Thats it!Im moving!LOL:D :D :D
Liqui-Fly
09-13-2007, 09:16 AM
I know, everyone is smart in their own special kind of way. Being patriotic is stupid, America is the biggest evil on the planet and the root of all the World's problems. We blow up our own buildings to get a war started but can't find WMD's, we are fighting all the wrong wars, shouldn't be in Iraq but apparently should have invaded Pakistan to get one guy, Bush is stupid but is an evil genius. I know all this stuff is great. There will be another protest typing up DC this weekend, War Memorials have been vandalized time and again during these "peaceful" marches to the point where hard working veterans have to go there to protect them because the police won't. Screw everyone that lost anyone on 9-11 whatever..........everyone is great, the moon landing was fake, America is the only nation to use nuclear bombs, and we're trying to steal everyone's oil. I guess open mindedness is also what gets you face down on a matress lying next to a sheep too. I'm pretty sure if you wind up in that position, you hope that everyone else is open minded too.
Riverratt
09-13-2007, 09:49 AM
I guess open mindedness is also what gets you face down on a matress lying next to a sheep too. I'm pretty sure if you wind up in that position, you hope that everyone else is open minded too.
Its actually not as bad as it sounds.:eek: :p
transomstand
09-13-2007, 10:19 AM
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/transomstand/sheep1.jpg
Liqui-Fly
09-13-2007, 02:14 PM
Here Dutch you'll enjoy this one too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZMgIKZUvFQ
CDave
09-13-2007, 04:35 PM
This thread isnt even worth debating over..Helmut is one of
the few good stand up guys out there. I guess he should have
been too closed minded to even watch the show. Watching this
and finding it interesting must also make him a scum bag liberal.
Unreal. I have known Helmut for almost ten years now and he
has never once done anything even remotely disgraceful. He is
one of the very few people on this board that never gets into the
"debates" on this board just to jump on the band wagon and call
each other names. Opinions are like butt holes, your's stinks and
mine doesn't.:D
The post I am reading on this thread are not saying anything about Helmut, they are refering to that moronic video on You Tube that he posted. I know mine were. I didn't see where Helmut sayed he believed anything on the video. I took his post as he cannot believe the idiotic people that believe this crap. That is my take on it.
dtsblack
09-13-2007, 05:57 PM
"Loose change 9/11 second edition" is provocative not only in presentation but in subject. In cosidering the subject and what it sugests i am forced not to hold any opinion about the actual events on 9/11/2001 until i am able to cunduct a proper investigation myself! if ill ever, the task seems dreadful. Maybe some one who, likes horror flicks or craves the short chain peptides(emotions) of frustration and anger perhaps, betrayal, would indulge in such an undertaking! i can only imagine. After all it is just a video. To, "take it at face value" seems foolish considering the nature of the thing.
although, that this video exists, alone, is cause for concern . It begs that you pay attention to now and be careful with what you consider to be true and demands no less! i am reminded of a quote, from who i dont know or even if its total. it goes, "in dealing with assassinations the person with the power to remove security is to blame" or something like that anyway.
Some Brits point of view on Jesus in America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f01IBDoZGg
Be sure to check out "crazy Jesus lady" in the Related section
GPRACING
09-13-2007, 06:18 PM
Fly,I feel your pain.Its like these blogs spew garbage out of their mouths and pimp it as truth.Everything Bush says is a lie but if mike moore tells you cuba has better health care thats true.And al gore says we are causing global warming and our planet is doomed-true.And dont forget,we never went to the moon!!I think my head is going to explode!!Got any duct tape????
mr.clean
09-13-2007, 06:26 PM
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m241/assedout/TinFoilHat_puton.jpg
Liqui-Fly
09-13-2007, 07:30 PM
Fly,I feel your pain.Its like these blogs spew garbage out of their mouths and pimp it as truth.Everything Bush says is a lie but if mike moore tells you cuba has better health care thats true.And al gore says we are causing global warming and our planet is doomed-true.And dont forget,we never went to the moon!!I think my head is going to explode!!Got any duct tape????
When the Code Pinkos got into Congress AGAIN when a freaking 4 Star Gerneral was giving a report....(attn Democrats NOT ON TRIAL).....I decided I've seen enough. Been too polite for too long; been debating idiots for years. Not enough troops, too many troops...Marines that were killing civilians in cold blood as reported by a Congressman have all but a few (so far) been exonerated because the Times reporter was full of it and on and on and on. Years later the draft they lied about never came. The are service men and women enlisting and re-enlisting because they believe in what they're doing and we as a Nation can't get behind them because we're too open minded. It's all pretty darn pathetic.
Dutch
09-13-2007, 08:07 PM
Here Dutch you'll enjoy this one too.
I didnt watch either or them, and dont plan on it..I really dont
have the time, between my family and boating.:D
My point is that Helmut didnt do anything disgraceful
for putting a link to something he thought was interesting
to watch. He never said if he believed in it or not.
You can never read or watch too many things.
Helmut, you p.o.s. liberal, I will see you in a few hours
and we can drink and talk boats. They can say whatever
they want about you, but the fact is that if there are
1000 posts on S and F that mention you, 999 say nothing
but good. Maybe I'm partial here, but that's the way it is.
trashy
09-14-2007, 05:57 AM
Sorry, didn't mean it as a slight to South Carolina. I do think, unfortunately, that her answer was a pretty good representation of what the education system in our country produces. I deal with the public in my job, and I see high schoolers, and college students who could easily communicate with her, on her level.
Pete
I wouldn't mind "communicating" with her on a horizontal level.:D
Liqui-Fly
09-14-2007, 08:12 AM
I didnt watch either or them, and dont plan on it..I really dont
have the time, between my family and boating.:D
My point is that Helmut didnt do anything disgraceful
for putting a link to something he thought was interesting
to watch. He never said if he believed in it or not.
You can never read or watch too many things.
Helmut, you p.o.s. liberal, I will see you in a few hours
and we can drink and talk boats. They can say whatever
they want about you, but the fact is that if there are
1000 posts on S and F that mention you, 999 say nothing
but good. Maybe I'm partial here, but that's the way it is.
What ever you do, don't worry about nothing.
Lanceonthelake
09-14-2007, 11:39 AM
You take this all WAY too serious. Helmut posted a video we have all seen over the last couple years, and gets slammed for posting it on the 6 yr anniversary of 9/11. Anyone who came to his defense in one way or another also gets slammed by you. Do yourself a favor, throw your computer, your television, and your radio out in the trash, and go sit outside for awhile in the sunshine, in your boat. Remember, this is just a blog forum, in the lounge area, of a performance boating website.
Liqui-Fly
09-14-2007, 01:03 PM
Thanks for your input Lance but if I choose to have political discussions with friends and use language you deem to be hateful I guess that is for you to ignore. I guess if the image of this nation and support for our troops is something you want me to take lightly, I suggest you go beat your head against a wall because you will get the same result.
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