Burgess F3

[gazza]

I have a Burgess F3 circuit catamaran, cannot seem to find much info on them,i believe they use a 850cc Short Shaft Yam or Evinrude, does any if know if any other engines have been used successfully as they are like hens teeth, i think having a 90 yam and lifting it 5 inches would affect the balance and Handling not sure.
This is to be my winter project this year so trying to get all the info together about these.

[robert j garner]

Hi Gazza do you know who used to drive it.

Rob

[BluFin]

Get them picies posted see what i can recall or find. da fin archives are not too bad.

[gazza]

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The boat was No 11 from Norway, Not sure if this is the drivers name
Tor Egil Hylland
Sponsors- Drageset Spar
Motor-Drange
The Hull number of its year is 0019 but cannot find the year?
It says year of manufacture then its blank!!
I'll post more photo's tomorrow.

[stingray240cs]

Hi Gazza,

your info is right. Tor was racing F3 back in the 80´s.
There was only Johnson or Evinrude used for F3. Cees Van der Velden was the guy supporting the series with parts and engines. Both models have been similar 850ccm blocks ca. 100-110 HP. The category died some few years ago.
Best Regards from Europe

Roman

[gazza]

You Guys are brilliant,
The hull is in surprising good condition for that age ( seems the same age as my old Campbell / Gordon Wright cat), all wood seems to be ok where i'm getting access, had the endoscope from work to check the areas i could not see at first everything looks fine,
There is just an area from getting in and out on the left hand side which needs a repair on the outside skin.
So what speed did these do in race trim?

[gazza]

Hi Gazza,

your info is right. Tor was racing F3 back in the 80´s.
There was only Johnson or Evinrude used for F3. Cees Van der Velden was the guy supporting the series with parts and engines. Both models have been similar 850ccm blocks ca. 100-110 HP. The category died some few years ago.
Best Regards from Europe

Roman

I see in your profile, you work for BP (oil Industry), I work for FMC Corporation, we are working on your Subsea Block 18 project at the moment for South Africa.

[stingray240cs]

I see in your profile, you work for BP (oil Industry), I work for FMC Corporation, we are working on your Subsea Block 18 project at the moment for South Africa.

The world is so small...;)

The speed was around 100mph

[philmyrna_shakesby]

All the info is right. You lucky bugger. Now all we need to get you is a motor.Mercs did have a 65 GT type motor with V'ed reads behind the carbs but the motors were all from Cees.However, if you get an 86 or later 70 OMC they were bigger and prop rated. Loads of torque & would rev. The exhaust however come out the opposite side of the block but cast an adapter plate, cut 5" off a later 50 hp if you cant find a genuine.. "stinger". Make up you're own nose cone and low water pick up,A 3 or 4 blade cleaver over the hub exhaust and or releaf the exhaust above the "cav" plate. Ritchen the carbs high speed jets. If you can find someone with a peak voltage metre you can tune the motor using that, but you'll need someone with big balls to hang on and read it!. The last time I did that was on a guys boat on Lake Widermere with a Jonnie V8. Silly me!! Older and wiser now I hope. All the best and good luck. Phil:cheers:

[gazza]

Actually having problems finding a suitable motor,
Does anybody here have a s/s race motor at the right price,

gaZ

[Bruce Washburn]

You could check in the US for an sst 60 motor. We still race this class in the US. A site you may want to check out is APR Super league. This is the series that races the SST 60. In the states the motor is a an OMC 3cylinder with the smaller standard foot nose coned gearcase. The engine is 56 cubic inches or about 900 cc. The boats will run low to mid 80's miles per hour on a race course. There was a 3 cylinder Yamaha 70 that also worked well on these boats but were not used in the US.
The 90 Yamaha with some port work on a short shaft midsection and smaller lower unit would be a fun ride. There were some outlaw classes that a few people ran the 90 yamaha on a short shaft mariner 60 mid section and lower unit with a nose cone.
If you could find a good SST 60 motor that would be the easiest way to go.

[hombre]

Hey guys we still race these boats here in Australia, however our F3 class is now powered by a 1250cc motor

check out this boat for more info http://www.bollinsracing.com.au/boats/
also you can go to http://www.uhpbc.net/photo_gallery.htm to see some of the club boats in action

[Sam Baker]

Greg Jacobsen at Sea Way Marine in Seattle, WA (USA) is an expert on F3 as well. He has much of the former OMC racing engine parts, etc. from 45SST to SST60. He raced F3 I believe as well at least one year. He is on here as SWMJake.

[Fast Fred]

F3 power:eek: of that era
http://i40.tinypic.com/30n9maf.jpg
made 110hp:cool:

[gazza]

Thanks for all the info you guys have, keep it coming,

gaZ

[Carl-Hampus]

I have a Burgess F3 circuit catamaran, cannot seem to find much info on them,i believe they use a 850cc Short Shaft Yam or Evinrude, does any if know if any other engines have been used successfully as they are like hens teeth, i think having a 90 yam and lifting it 5 inches would affect the balance and Handling not sure.
This is to be my winter project this year so trying to get all the info together about these.

I believe that the Italian engine builder, Selva, made F3 engines.

[powerabout]

Hey guys we still race these boats here in Australia, however our F3 class is now powered by a 1250cc motor

check out this boat for more info http://www.bollinsracing.com.au/boats/
also you can go to http://www.uhpbc.net/photo_gallery.htm to see some of the club boats in action
Powered by a 1250 or do you mean the class max is 1250cc?

[hombre]

Hi powerabout, i couldnt answer your question properly as i race F1 river races, but the current Aussy rule book says F3 -1.25ltr carby or EFI min hull lngth 3.5m 350KG so i would presume max power 1250 as we also have an 1250 - 1800cc class, also yamato & 800cc classes.

[powerabout]

Do you know where I can download the rules on the actual engine specs?
like production block thru prop exhaust etc?

[hombre]

you can download the rule book from the Australian powerboat association
http://www.ausapba.com.au/download_index.htm

[Chipboard]

Gazza I have also a F3 Burgess that was built in England I bought 3 power heads from Cess they are called M31 they are great engine I bought all my parts and even gear boxes from Greg he is pretty easy to work with
I have mine up for sale I race it for 4 years in Australia now I have stepped up to F2
Well you will have great time with your boat they are perfect boat to go racing all the best
Dave
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