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baja200merk
07-16-2007, 02:10 PM
Okay i just got my action (copy, i know :rolleyes::D ) and i dont know much about them other than the fact that they are not as popular as my vking was:p . Post pics, setup, speed, power! Details are good :D
Ill start, mine is a 1995 17' action copy made by Motion. Its powered by a tired Johnson that made "225hp" at one point in its earlier lift :p. Bought the boat in holiday florida from an omc dealership. The boats fun as hell to drive although it is alot more flighty at speed then my vking was :eek: its still a blast and theres plenty of room for passengers. Best speed i have seen is 82 on gps with a 29srx but that was at 6900-7000rpm :rolleyes: must have had the motor way too high cause thats a ton of slip :confused:
Kevin
Heres a few pictures
http://i16.tinypic.com/4yshe7k.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/4tfrx8w.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/4leoleo.jpg
Action Dave
07-16-2007, 03:38 PM
Ok I'm in.
2004 18 Action.
2000 Johnson 225
Best speed so far 91.7gps w/worked 29 SRX @6600RPM
There's plenty of Action guys on the board, especially from SOFLA, so let's get some pics guys!
Action Dave
07-16-2007, 03:42 PM
Here's a couple more.
My cousin's 17 Action w/x-flow power.
New 23 Action open-fish.
action17
07-16-2007, 06:14 PM
I'll play!! Why does Devon have to take up the whole cockpit:eek:
action17
07-16-2007, 06:15 PM
some more
action17
07-16-2007, 06:16 PM
whoops!!
action17
07-16-2007, 06:19 PM
more actions
action17
07-16-2007, 06:20 PM
not done yet
action17
07-16-2007, 06:22 PM
still going
1BadAction
07-16-2007, 06:22 PM
Bobby, thanks for that 3rd pic (brown and white), just what I was lookin for ;)
I've always liked these ones :D
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9856/action17t22ip.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/549/action17t3fx.jpg
action17
07-16-2007, 06:23 PM
a few more
action17
07-16-2007, 06:24 PM
yet still some more
action17
07-16-2007, 06:26 PM
Jim,
Where did you find those pictures you just posted?
1BadAction
07-16-2007, 06:28 PM
Jim,
Where did you find those pictures you just posted?
I think they are Frostman and RRevinrude back in the day... picked them up somewhere on here or in my interweb travels.
action17
07-16-2007, 06:35 PM
Bobby, thanks for that 3rd pic (brown and white), just what I was lookin for
That was my dads first action.
action17
07-16-2007, 06:37 PM
You are 100% correct that is exactly who that is.
robert jordan
07-16-2007, 06:40 PM
twin v6 mercs on a action, i would have bet money that it couldnt be done. still dont believe that i am seeing two motors on that! i keep thinking photo shop chop. how fast would it go? 200 mph lol. how in the heck does it float? i have truelly seen it all now!!!
action17
07-16-2007, 06:43 PM
I found some more
action17
07-16-2007, 06:45 PM
Last one for now
action17
07-16-2007, 06:47 PM
twin v6 mercs on a action, i would have bet money that it couldnt be done. still dont believe that i am seeing two motors on that! i keep thinking photo shop chop. how fast would it go? 200 mph lol. how in the heck does it float? i have truelly seen it all now!!!
No there is no photo shop there. That is the real deal.I don't know how fast it ran but I can find out.
robert jordan
07-16-2007, 07:01 PM
had alot of fun in this boat till the motor blew up 2 times!! ran some where in the 80 mph range i would say. never really looked at speedometer because i was to bizzy trying to keep it from chine walking all the time. it was a fun boat. http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif
Hot Shot Merc
07-16-2007, 07:23 PM
I heard they were making a video with that twin engine boat and sunk it when it flew off a wake and came down transom first.Any truth to that?
Hot Shot Merc
07-16-2007, 07:24 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~hotshotmerc/oldphoto.jpg
action17
07-16-2007, 07:27 PM
I'm not sure Rob I would have to ask Andy or Greg. You never know them crazy fools though.
jphii
07-16-2007, 07:27 PM
Mr 6000, bad haircut & a belly, some things never change:D :D :D :D
1BadAction
07-16-2007, 07:28 PM
at least he ditched the mullett :D
hahahahahha:D :D
Kevin, when you gonna hook up with us and run? You in for the Jungle run?
fish
baja200merk
07-17-2007, 07:15 AM
awsome shots guys
that 20ft with twins is sick any details on it?
Fish- i will be back down in the end of august, should have a proper looper together by then :D im gettin tired of this stock 225 junk but its better then not boating at all :rolleyes:. where do you guys run? when im down there im ussually on lake tarpon cause the ramp is 1/4th mile from my house.
thanks
Kevin
RikuY
07-17-2007, 07:55 AM
Here are a couple of mine...:D
bluecheckmate
07-17-2007, 08:13 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/preppboy/CIMG6140-1.jpg
bluecheckmate
07-17-2007, 08:14 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/preppboy/CIMG6135.jpg
bluecheckmate
07-17-2007, 08:27 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/preppboy/P1010110-2.jpg
Hot Shot Merc
07-17-2007, 08:42 AM
Mr 6000, bad haircut & a belly, some things never change:D :D :D :DThat wasnt my belly thats my other arm om my waist.:D I was thin at one time.But yes the hair cut was Don Johnson like:eek: :D
jphii
07-17-2007, 08:43 AM
I liked the mullet better:D :D :D
AirRide
07-17-2007, 08:50 AM
Anyone out there ever own one? Circa 1980'ish. Predecessor to the Paramount 21. Thanks
playin boats
07-17-2007, 10:25 AM
you probably remember this one, the old banana boat,
"peeling out"
Ken
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z189/playinboats/aftersunset.jpg
baja200merk
07-17-2007, 10:32 AM
awsome pictures guys, those xflows were popular as hell!
dont forget to post what setup worked best for your boat and some gps ##'s!
euro scott
07-17-2007, 10:33 AM
has anyone ever put a 15" mid on a 19' action? im picking up skeeters old boat and trying to decide what i want to run on it' ,it comes with 20" offshore mid ,but im condeming the ventura and pulling off my stuff just put it together with the 15 and went to replace the seat mounting boxes and found the brown crud of what was the core the floor is solid never would have guessed its rotten, if anyone wants it come and get it(needs a core job)
1BadAction
07-17-2007, 10:40 AM
15" mids work, if your thinking of a 7700 limited 280, they have trouble getting on top without setting the low water pressure alarm off.
euro scott
07-17-2007, 10:54 AM
im just gonna put my 2.4 200 on it for now, maybe i'll rebuild the bridgeport thats puking metal out of #6..
baja200merk
07-17-2007, 10:54 AM
they have trouble getting on top without setting the low water pressure alarm off.
is that because the case is that high :confused:
Action Dave
07-17-2007, 11:01 AM
has anyone ever put a 15" mid on a 19' action?
Barney from Action is experimenting with a Looper on a taylor 16" mid w/sportmaster. It doesn't get enough water pressure in my opinion but it hasn't gotten all that hot yet either. We'll see.
Action Dave
07-17-2007, 11:16 AM
No there is no photo shop there. That is the real deal.I don't know how fast it ran but I can find out.
I might be wrong but I believe that boat only ran in the low 70's. It got there really fast though. From what I've been told.
action17
07-17-2007, 11:24 AM
Anyone out there ever own one? Circa 1980'ish. Predecessor to the Paramount 21. Thanks
Yup My dad one I want to say it ran in the low to mid 80's with a crossflow.
action17
07-17-2007, 11:25 AM
I might be wrong but I believe that boat only ran in the low 70's. It got there really fast though. From what I've been told.
David I'm not sure I want to it ran somewhere in the 80's maybe Greg or Andrew will see this and answer for sure.
action17
07-17-2007, 11:26 AM
you probably remember this one, the old banana boat,
"peeling out"
Ken
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z189/playinboats/aftersunset.jpg
Sure do looks good.:D
Action Dave
07-17-2007, 11:42 AM
I've only heard stories about that boat. Usually after a few too many rum and cokes.
Action Dave
07-17-2007, 11:43 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/preppboy/CIMG6135.jpg
AHHH!!! The MOJITO SUBMARINE in it's heyday.:D
bluecheckmate
07-17-2007, 11:48 AM
AHHH!!! The MOJITO SUBMARINE in it's heyday.:D
lmao ass.... That was a awesome day besides the submarine.
baja200merk
07-17-2007, 12:01 PM
submarine.
What?!?!:eek: :confused: :eek:
bluecheckmate
07-17-2007, 12:03 PM
yeah something like that it kinda sunk but in the process of building the motor back up and doing the electrical. There is no foam under the floor so they wont be extra weight b/c of the water.
Action Dave
07-17-2007, 03:10 PM
lmao ass.... That was a awesome day besides the submarine.
No doubt dude. There will be plenty more good ones once you get her back together. Side note: I ran from Key Largo to Elliot Key last Sunday. Glass flat the whole way there and back!!!!:eek:
JUPITER PULSARE
07-17-2007, 03:29 PM
No doubt dude. There will be plenty more good ones once you get her back together. Side note: I ran from Key Largo to Elliot Key last Sunday. Glass flat the whole way there and back!!!!:eek:
Back when I grew up in Coral Gables, I'd run from Dinner Key, Coconut Grove across Biscayne Bay to Stiltsville, hang a right just in front of the salt flats and scream across The Ragged Keys, Soldiers Key, Boca Chica Key all the way to the Sand Bar between Elliots Key and Sands Key. It was always challenging & fun avoiding all the shoals. They were some of the best times. If you got out early in the morning and the bay was flat glass, the ride was incredible and you'd always see stingrays, dolphins, turtles, nurse sharks, manatees, etc. but....by the end of the day, while homeward bound, Biscayne Bay could really beat you up good!!!! 2-4 foot nasty, wind whipped, confused chop with boat wakes everywhere can really abuse you.
bluecheckmate
07-17-2007, 03:39 PM
No doubt dude. There will be plenty more good ones once you get her back together. Side note: I ran from Key Largo to Elliot Key last Sunday. Glass flat the whole way there and back!!!!:eek:
Im jealous :eek:.... how much gas did you waste? im dying to the that kind of run from key largo to the sandbar. Like jupiter said, we gotta do it early in the morning and then return back very close to dark b/c if not you will get your a** beaten up. Its like going through government cut. :eek::eek::eek:
bluecheckmate
07-17-2007, 03:44 PM
im going to scan the old late 70's early 80's action marine booklet that i have and post them.
Hot Shot Merc
07-17-2007, 04:08 PM
The black and silver flake 18 in the 84' brochure was here in Sarasota and the boat was owned by Jim Fergeson(Flusher King).The blue 20 footer was also here and is still here in Sarasota.I know all three owners untill the latest who just bought it recently.
mr fun
07-17-2007, 08:02 PM
got that copter shot from "toys for tots"? Rob, i thought it was an alein trying to get out of your BELLY! Bobby! totally cool stuff from tha day. how cool would it be to have those kind of races again, drags are their own kind of fun but roundy rounds are EXCITING!:eek: :D :cool: ;) fun out
action17
07-18-2007, 11:50 AM
still going
Hey Bluecheckmate,
Does this boat look familiar to you. Ask Dave about going over 2 footers on the way home from the sandbar racing a mirage. Boy that was fun!!! I miss this boat bad.
bluecheckmate
07-18-2007, 12:52 PM
Cant wait to get the boat back in the water and make some mojitos lol. Got a new recipe for the mojitos Dave lol. i got the electrical done now just putting the motor back together. Finally got the piston rings in. So in two nights i should have the motor back together and install it on the boat this weekend. should have it for next weekend. Now its just the break in procedure :(.
1BadAction
07-18-2007, 12:54 PM
Finally got the piston rings in. So in two nights i should have the motor back together and install it on the boat this weekend. should have it for next weekend. Now its just the break in procedure :(.
PICS! :D
baja200merk
07-18-2007, 12:56 PM
PICS! :D
Where are pics of ur boat :confused: :confused: :confused:
1BadAction
07-18-2007, 01:02 PM
Where are pics of ur boat :confused: :confused: :confused:
in the camera where the ugly ass thing belongs :D :D
Action Dave
07-18-2007, 01:06 PM
AWWW c'mon dude. Just a few samples for us slow boaters?
baja200merk
07-18-2007, 01:09 PM
okay fine you can photoshop the boat white but its gotta be a pic of it at 80+mph lol
action17
07-26-2007, 11:33 AM
Bringing it back, see if we can't get anymore pictures up there are millions of actions out there.
1BadAction
07-26-2007, 11:41 AM
we didnt do too bad. I would start posting pics of some of the guys down here that don't post, but seems like every time there is a conglomeration of them in one place, I forget my camera. :(
action17
07-26-2007, 01:16 PM
Gottcha, No we didn't do to bad, but I know there are a whole lot more out there.;) I need to organize all my dads old pictures I bet I fill 2 to 3 pages with actions rangeing from 16 to 25 foot long. Let alone the ones he still has.
1,17action
2,18 actions
1,25 action
I also have about 30 pictures that barney sent me from a photo shoot they did with the 19 action that was at the boat show along with the 23 with the twin e-tecs.
baja200merk
07-26-2007, 02:28 PM
I would love a 60* 225h.o. e-tec (if they would come out with one!) for my boat. A guy down south has a 90* 225h.o. etec on an 18 i think any one have pics of that?
merctech1979
07-28-2007, 07:01 AM
here a pic of my old 16 action, from what i hear now it now has a 2.4 bridgeport on it
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f354/merctech/100_0514.jpg
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merctech5591
07-28-2007, 08:28 AM
<a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3787544" target="_blank"><img src="http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/29518360937.jpg" alt="Click to enlarge"></a>
1BadAction
07-28-2007, 12:57 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused:
baja200merk
07-28-2007, 05:30 PM
sweet actions, thats what this thread is about actions.
merctec- how fast did that run with the looper? Nice cowling by the way :D
nice pair- nice boat but its no action :rolleyes: whys there a picture of it on this thread?
NICE PAIR
07-28-2007, 06:08 PM
"DUH" I thought you meant pictures of boats in action. We're a little slow on this coast.:D
merctech5591
07-28-2007, 06:32 PM
merctec- how fast did that run with the looper? Nice cowling by the way :D
that boat ran best with a dah 29 srx , 89 mph@6650
baja200merk
07-28-2007, 07:42 PM
89's pretty good. Im in the low eighties right now hopin to get a few more mph out of it tomorrow with it light and the motor 2 inches higher then it was when i ran my best of 82. I Would eventually like to see low 90s :rolleyes: dono if it will happen.
bobby pesos (spelling?) is running like 105mph with a warmed up looper :eek:
kevin
merctech5591
07-29-2007, 06:27 AM
my buds lopper only has reed's, tight heads, jet's and a dry stacked mid, it was loud but it ran that action... seat time is all it takes to make these actions run.. rick
baja200merk
07-29-2007, 09:13 AM
thanks for the pointers im goin out today hope to atleast see mid eighties.I have herd the propshaft 1.5in above works well, any idea where your friends was?
Hot Shot Merc
07-29-2007, 03:15 PM
Sure do looks good.:DMan your right Bobby that boat sure does look good with that black motor:eek: :D
Liquid
07-29-2007, 05:23 PM
her are a couple of pics of my Actions. One is a 1998 with the original old style deck running a 1995 mwercury 2.5 200, The other is a 2000 with an hst deck running a 1993 2.5 260.
baja200merk
07-29-2007, 08:32 PM
got a few more shots today. was runnin a 28p bravo one 4 blade motors gotta come up about an inch and put the 29 srx back on :eek:
http://i10.tinypic.com/4mv9h5s.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/4yfez54.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/5403se8.jpg
kevin
1BadAction
07-29-2007, 08:42 PM
Skinnnnnt back :cool:
baja200merk
07-29-2007, 08:52 PM
Skinnnnnt back :cool:
ya lost me could be cause of the beer :rolleyes: :p
1BadAction
07-29-2007, 08:58 PM
ya lost me could be cause of the beer :rolleyes: :p
skint back = hauling ass. :D
baja200merk
07-30-2007, 07:39 AM
ahh thanks for translatin that into yankee translpant terms :D
The dam gps was dead but this ole tired loopa spun the 28p 4 blade right around 6k and the bravo prop barley slips at all so i was figuring still low eighties. Im lookin for something in the 30-32 range to keep the r's down so i dont skatter this thing along the shoreline :rolleyes:
thanks
Kevin
Action Dave
07-30-2007, 02:57 PM
If you spin a wheel that big, it's gonna be a crappy ride in terms of all around performance. Slow out of the hole and poor mid-range. You're probably best off with something in the 28-29 pitch range. If your're worried about the motor staying together, don't lace into it as much. My dad's old bocks of rocks looper w/about 8 million hours ran strong all day at 5800-5900 rpm pushing a fishing boat.
baja200merk
07-30-2007, 06:02 PM
I'm drilling holes in the leading edge of the bravo one before i go out again, that dam thing seems like its got 40"p when you are comin out of the hole. It needs some ventilation.
Im also bringin the 29srx, you say i should have the prop shaft about an inch above for top end runs right? Its prolly 2 below right now so i could prolly do even better with the bravo if i raised the motor. Bravo ran 73mph with me, my girl and 3/4 tank. Couldnt stay in it long there was a wake coming. Prolly would run 75+ if i could stay in it for more then a 1/4 mile before either running out of water or seeing rollers :eek:
thanks
Kevin
1BadAction
07-30-2007, 07:17 PM
heres an "oldie" but goodie. :D 82mph, stock 200efi fishin motor and a 24 et cut chopper on an XR case. gotta love those FAST NOSECONED cases and transom heights that'll make your nose bleed :eek: :D. Later that week it ran 91 with a worked 30 "cleaver" (looked more like an ET to me)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4294/alva007resize0pj1zt.jpg
bluecheckmate
07-30-2007, 09:02 PM
My dad's action...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/jna709/Action1.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/jna709/Action2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/jna709/Action3.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/jna709/Action4.jpg
1BadAction
07-30-2007, 09:19 PM
I guess I wasnt the only one who played in boats when I was in diapers :D :D
bluecheckmate
07-30-2007, 09:21 PM
actually that wasnt me that was my big brother. He must of been about three years old and he's now 30. It was a 17ft with a 115 but my dad said something about putting different carbs and heads.
action17
07-31-2007, 06:31 AM
I guess I wasnt the only one who played in boats when I was in diapers :D :D
No your not!! Action Dave did it all the time!!!:eek:
baja200merk
07-31-2007, 07:38 AM
finnally 1 bad!!!
what did it spin that 30p to?
1BadAction
07-31-2007, 08:30 AM
6600-6700 with the 30 on the 1.78 XR case. it didnt spin the 24 much faster. those stock box laser motors go damn near plug fouling rich at anything more than 6000.
baja200merk
07-31-2007, 08:41 AM
Thats what i was afriad of, way to many r's fo me. I dont feel like wrenchin untill im boltin a more powerful motor on it. Im really tryin to keep the rpms on this box stock fishin motor under 6k so ill see what the srx will do this week.
Action Dave
07-31-2007, 10:13 AM
No your not!! Action Dave did it all the time!!!:eek:
Ha, very funny. I'm not your friend anymore!!:eek: :D
action17
07-31-2007, 11:34 AM
He He He He!!:D
cc@100mph
08-03-2007, 07:32 AM
just bought a 18 original action with the concave pad would like to get it to high 90s if not 100 what power would you guys recommend and would it be controllable (not easy just controllable) it has a promax 150 on it now with 200 carbs and front half and 145psi heads and it doing 81 with a 27 srx completly controllable with 15 psi water pressure! give me some feedback 260 , 280, drag ? setup and possibly some first hand im sure somebodys had something like my idea before thanks in advance hector
Action Dave
08-03-2007, 09:15 AM
Hector, while an 18 Action is capable of speeds over 100mph, especially with a 280, keep in mind that these boats were designed in the early 80's. Long before 100mph boats were common. Give yourself plenty of seat time and make sure you have no play in your steering. Going 100mph in a v-bottom is alot different than a tunnel or mod-vp. As far as set-up with a merc racing motor, I'd ask 1BadAction. He's got a 16 w/280 power. He might be willing to give you a few pointers if he ever puts his boat back together.:p Good luck and be safe.
baja200merk
08-03-2007, 10:13 AM
once i get mine into the 90s i can see my self buying a meir-edge :D !
action17
08-03-2007, 11:38 AM
Hector, while an 18 Action is capable of speeds over 100mph, especially with a 280, keep in mind that these boats were designed in the early 80's. Long before 100mph boats were common
Your uncle would be pissed if he read what you wrote!!! Remember the silver and blue 18 ran over a 100. his 16 was bangin a hung!! all with x-flow power!!.
Action Dave
08-03-2007, 01:16 PM
Those were the days before GPS. I said 100mph boats weren't common, not that they didn't exist.
1BadAction
08-03-2007, 01:40 PM
Life begins at 100+ in a v-bottom :D
dixtover
08-09-2007, 02:39 PM
Here are some Marvin shots from a couple weeks ago.
Action Dave
08-09-2007, 02:43 PM
Here are some Marvin shots from a couple weeks ago.
Hey I recognize that boat!
action17
08-10-2007, 05:36 AM
damit man!!!!!:mad: Boat still looks good!!!
baja200merk
08-10-2007, 11:24 AM
Here are some Marvin shots from a couple weeks ago.
Didnt that bote have a white moter on it?
action17
08-10-2007, 11:37 AM
Didnt that bote have a white moter on it?
Yes it did i built that boat from the mold and it had a 235 OMC on it when I sold it.
action17
08-10-2007, 11:40 AM
This is what it looked like when I had it.
baja200merk
08-10-2007, 11:58 AM
knew it looked familiar! the white motor looked better :P haha
mercpunk
08-10-2007, 09:46 PM
post them I know you want to Hector
cc@100mph
08-13-2007, 08:55 PM
Lost a prop this weekend sucks !! http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/hectorcabrera/?action=view¤t=Pics204.flv</EMBED"></EMBED>
bigboy
08-14-2007, 04:51 AM
Wow that sucks:mad:
baja200merk
08-14-2007, 08:47 AM
wow that sucks what prop? did you loose the whole shaft or did it just come off of it? Sorry to hear it..
Keivn
cc@100mph
08-14-2007, 09:08 AM
just the prop and thank god it was only a ski prop which i have another but it was a good prop , o well lifes a beach
baja200merk
08-14-2007, 09:17 AM
Im hoping to get out today, i see you ran 81 nice job! Any idea where your propshaft is at? Im gonna throw the 29srx on and go out if its not too windy. I think im gonna run it 1" above and see what happens guessing mid 80s wit the bone stock whitemota
kevin
DIZASTER420
08-18-2007, 09:31 PM
This is my boat that my dad [airman] gave to me and we have spent the last month reconditioning it. Ive been working hard to make it look good and my dad has been working hard to make sure it runs good. here are some pics of what its lookin like now.:D :D :D :cool: Ill try to keep updating as we progress.
DIZASTER420
08-18-2007, 09:37 PM
check em out!:cool:
DIZASTER420
08-18-2007, 09:47 PM
A couple more for ya's
got alot more of the project documented @ myspace page www.myspace.com/locarb5 (http://www.myspace.com/locarb5) check out my pics under "boat project":cool: :D
baja200merk
08-20-2007, 06:48 PM
looks awesome! good work!
cc@100mph
08-20-2007, 07:13 PM
A couple more for ya's
got alot more of the project documege www.myspace.com/locarb5 (http://www.myspace.com/locarb5) check out my pics under "boat project":cool: :D
hey man how did you do that dash panel its friggin awesome !!! would like to do that for my sons boat !!
bluecheckmate
08-20-2007, 07:13 PM
Looks really nice
Action Dave
08-21-2007, 09:36 AM
Dizaster, that boat looks sweet. Good job with all the work so far.
Alex, is your boat almost ready?
bluecheckmate
08-21-2007, 10:29 AM
Dizaster, that boat looks sweet. Good job with all the work so far.
Alex, is your boat almost ready?
Si, its done. Im just waiting for my pyros to come in this week and today im starting up the motor. So hopefully my electronics are still good. But worst case ill just put back the stock 2.5 electronics til i get some money to get the hi-po ones again. I had to modify the coils because of the cowling so i made my own plate. Came out sweet!. And everything else on the motor is stock... :D
1BadAction
08-21-2007, 11:34 AM
just dont sink it this time and you'll be OK. :D
bluecheckmate
08-21-2007, 12:47 PM
just dont sink it this time and you'll be OK. :D
haha funny. Whats going on with your boat. Just sell me the hull and trailer. i could give it to my little brother.:D
1BadAction
08-21-2007, 12:56 PM
its still here. :D - I am doing the back access hatch a little different because of the "episode" with yours. going to glass in a water tight hatch instead of a regular cover. :o
Action Dave
08-21-2007, 12:58 PM
Si, its done. Im just waiting for my pyros to come in this week and today im starting up the motor. So hopefully my electronics are still good. But worst case ill just put back the stock 2.5 electronics til i get some money to get the hi-po ones again. I had to modify the coils because of the cowling so i made my own plate. Came out sweet!. And everything else on the motor is stock... :D
Excellent. We went to the keys this past weekend, bunch of dudes. Besides the wind, it was good. Get 'er done.
bluecheckmate
08-21-2007, 01:02 PM
i fixed that problem with mine. ill show you when i go over to your area with the boat. Plus lol, i added dual bilge pumps with dual outlets. one on each side. Trust me it aint going to sink. lol. im gonna post some pics later of how i made my coil plate because the way you to told me to do it didnt work it was rubbing against the cowling and spark plug number 3 was going to be in the way with the coil. It came out sweeeet.
bluecheckmate
08-21-2007, 01:04 PM
Excellent. We went to the keys this past weekend, bunch of dudes. Besides the wind, it was good. Get 'er done.
It was windy last weekend. You must of gotten pounded unless you went on your dads boat.
1BadAction
08-21-2007, 01:09 PM
LOL... Mine never floated that low. with 16 gallons and a second guy that probably weighed 200 or so sitting in the back, it sat with the very back of the rubrail touching... thats why when I seen your pic I told you it looked too low to me. :) I have a single bilge pump but its a good size one. 1500gph i think.
bluecheckmate
08-21-2007, 01:13 PM
yeah i have two 750gph. Well, i took off some weight. One deep cycle battery instead of two and the jackplate and cowling. I took off some weight not a whole lot. im building now a 2.4 200 late 80's. im gonna experiment on that motor. :D
Action Dave
08-21-2007, 01:15 PM
It was windy last weekend. You must of gotten pounded unless you went on your dads boat.
Didn't get beat up too bad in my boat. Of coarse, mine's a Caddilac compared to the sixteen. I wonder if the Concept Actions just sat low like that. My cousin's rubrail is underwater with a 235 on it, small fuel tank and manual jackplate. I think you'll be fine with the setup you've got now.
bluecheckmate
08-21-2007, 01:26 PM
hopefully. Now i have to go through the boring part. Breaking in the motor. :mad: . Are you still down for labor day weekend or that sunday
Action Dave
08-21-2007, 01:41 PM
Yessir. Sunday's gonna be the day.
baja200merk
08-21-2007, 08:57 PM
hopefully. Now i have to go through the boring part. Breaking in the motor. :mad: . Are you still down for labor day weekend or that sunday
how did yours sink? i have a 225 loopa that weighs 100lbs more then ur motor on a 17' i have left it on a moorin in chitty conditions :rolleyes: and it stayed above water. My rub rail is 1in below water in the rear with a full tank. its not a concept tho its a motion 17 with no splash well. with 2 people in the front seats 180lbs each and a 3/4-full tank i take on water if stay still in the chop.
bluecheckmate
08-22-2007, 08:32 AM
how did yours sink? i have a 225 loopa that weighs 100lbs more then ur motor on a 17' i have left it on a moorin in chitty conditions :rolleyes: and it stayed above water. My rub rail is 1in below water in the rear with a full tank. its not a concept tho its a motion 17 with no splash well. with 2 people in the front seats 180lbs each and a 3/4-full tank i take on water if stay still in the chop.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/preppboy/CIMG6139.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/preppboy/actionboat-1.jpg
I think mine sits a little more then one inch. If you can see where my harness comes out. The diameter of that hole is about three inches and the water started going in through that hole because i was on the back of the boat (driver side) cuz i was having a over heating problem plus the alcohol drinking didnt help. So when i was leaning on that one side i notice my bilge output was underwater and you can see the water trying to push out but i was like " i won't be taking to long" but i guess i was wrong. within a minute or two dont remember i just feel the back of the boat just going down and i was with my girlfriend which didnt know how to swim. well, i told her to jump off the boat so she did Instead of me telling her just put it into drive and dont stop but my fault. she emptied out the cooler and jumped on that. So finally the boat was pretty much underwater and Dave (Action Dave) was pretty far away from us. we waved him down and from there on was ruff. If it wasnt for dave and his dad ive would of been F***ed. i got home around 12-1am. Worst day, hopefully doesnt happen again. Thats my beautiful story.
action17
08-22-2007, 01:12 PM
I've heard about that all to many times!! You also need to becarefull when stopping to quickly water will rush over the transome and bye bye boat.
action17
08-22-2007, 01:17 PM
how did yours sink? i have a 225 loopa that weighs 100lbs more then ur motor on a 17' i have left it on a moorin in chitty conditions :rolleyes: and it stayed above water. My rub rail is 1in below water in the rear with a full tank. its not a concept tho its a motion 17 with no splash well. with 2 people in the front seats 180lbs each and a 3/4-full tank i take on water if stay still in the chop.
Your boat is an 18 motion it is alot wider and heavier then the boats that come out of the concept molds. I hung a 235 on the back of my 16 concept and it would take water over the transome if beached or if was moored and a big wake came bye. I was getting fuel in the water one time and two of the bigger ski doos came by half on plane throwing a huge wake luckily I was paying attention and ran up to the bow and hit the bildge pump on the way. Took about 8" of water in the cockpit.:rolleyes:
DIZASTER420
08-22-2007, 09:38 PM
we've come along way from where this boat started. just finishing the rigging and a few minor things. Floated it today to swith trailers and it looks amazing in the water. didnt have my camera. but heres some pics of where were at.:D :cool:
DIZASTER420
08-22-2007, 09:42 PM
Some different shots..:eek:
cc@100mph
08-23-2007, 06:20 AM
hey dizaster420 !!
hey man how did you do that dash panel its friggin awesome !!! would like to do that for my sons boat !!
dizaster can you help a fellow boater out with some info ?
DIZASTER420
08-23-2007, 09:48 AM
yeah let me know what you need. thats what its all about. I talked about my dash a couple of replys back from this one.:D :cool:
cc@100mph
08-23-2007, 08:14 PM
yeah let me know what you need. thats what its all about. I talked about my dash a couple of replys back from this one.:D :cool:
how did you make the dash panel and where can i get the materials?
bluecheckmate
08-24-2007, 08:27 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/preppboy/untitled.jpg
Action Dave
08-24-2007, 09:57 AM
Hell yeah dude! That cowl looks sweet! Can't wait to see her out on the water again.
bluecheckmate
08-24-2007, 10:30 AM
This weekend Hopefully. i started her up yesterday. i still have some little odds and ends to do.Mojitos @ Sandbar Sunday.:D
action17
08-24-2007, 11:04 AM
Hey Bra,
I noticed in the pictures you keep alot of stuff in the back of the boat ie, Cooler coat guard gear ect. Try to keep that stuff as close to the front as possible. I used to keep my cooler rite behind the seats just use some kind of clamps to keep it in place, the coast guard gear I kept under the deck behind the kick board this should help distribute some of the weight for you. Looks good be carefull!!
bluecheckmate
08-24-2007, 12:05 PM
well i dunno why that day the Coast Gaurd bag was in the back. I usually keep in the front and i would like to keep the cooler in the front but it doesnt fit under the dash. i have to get a smaller cooler.
action17
08-24-2007, 12:59 PM
The cooler doesnt have to go in the front look at the first page of this thread and see how I used to keep mine.
1BadAction
08-24-2007, 01:14 PM
Alex, those 2 deep cycle batteries, 2 trim pumps, and hydraulic jackplate were your big problem. Just dont sit on the transom again unless the thing is on the beach! :)
bluecheckmate
08-24-2007, 01:17 PM
Now i have just one trim pump, two less hydraulic hoses, one deep cycle, and a lighter cowling and i will continue putting my ass on the back of the boat. This beech isnt going to sink.:D
bluecheckmate
08-24-2007, 01:19 PM
Yeah right behind the seats but i try doing that and it goes all over the place. i just gotta get smaller cooler but that means less liquor and food!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:
The cooler doesnt have to go in the front look at the first page of this thread and see how I used to keep mine.
1BadAction
08-24-2007, 01:28 PM
well... mine (with no splashwell) doesnt swamp when I turn the key off while its on plane, you should at least be able to keep yours above sea level.
baja200merk
08-24-2007, 08:55 PM
Alex, those 2 deep cycle batteries, 2 trim pumps, and hydraulic jackplate were your big problem. Just dont sit on the transom again unless the thing is on the beach! :)
Just wonderin how much does that 3.0 welfare moterr weigh? You got me worried now :eek:, even though the dam thing survived all them nights on the moorin in rain/ 2ft seas :rolleyes: :eek: What was i thinkin!:o
Sorry to hear it man glad to hear u got the boat back together! My motion has no splash well and the hoses runnin to the moter are sealed up like hell, thats gotta help. I have one of them computerized pumps so by the end of the day it pumps for 2 secs and shuts off every few mins untill people start jumpin in the lake n climbin back in the boat :rolleyes: ....
- 1unpaintedbadaction- mines got no splash and if i shut the key off while on plane i dive onto the bow light n still get water in the boat :rolleyes:
1BadAction
08-24-2007, 09:14 PM
on 6 gallons of gas or less, odyssey battery in back, mine doesnt take water on. I dont think that OMC case ratchets like a merc case does it? that in itself slows you down faster when you let off the gas, and will make the backwash worse. props do also, some dig deeper than others.
i cant wait to see how mine acts with 34 gallons in the back :eek: :rolleyes:
Tom Foley
08-26-2007, 12:36 PM
Is it DONE YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1BadAction
08-26-2007, 04:25 PM
Is it DONE YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
will be at RR.
dixtover
08-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Like Action17 said if you want to keep the cooler behind the seat, just clamp it there. Or get a smaller one. Where is your battery located? When I’m at the beach lots of times I put the cooler and other stuff on top of the bow it makes it easy to get at and keeps the stern up and bow down. You might also think about maybe putting all the hoses through one sealed opening. It seems like you are going about it in the right direction by getting rid of the hydraulic jack, one battery and one trim pump. The light weight cowl is always nice. Simple is best.
dixtover
08-26-2007, 08:06 PM
Yea, the boat still looks good I waxed it the day before I took those shots at Marvin. I have some shots of it when I got it with the 235 on but I can't figure out how to size my scans. The only difference is I put a 150 Johnson sleeper cowl on it :) Its no fun when a motor blows on ya going close to 90mph. Sloppy stearing.
baja200merk
08-26-2007, 08:24 PM
235 close to 90? what prop? rpm?
dixtover
08-26-2007, 08:35 PM
worked 29 srx @ I think 6500 but I can't remember exactly. Boat has done 96.7 with modified 200 Merc, 2:1 coned lower and 32 ET again not positive on RPM maybe 7400. I don't focus on the tech too much at those speeds I look for those dam cormorant birds. You got to love top speed recall on the GPS.
bluecheckmate
08-27-2007, 06:43 AM
Like Action17 said if you want to keep the cooler behind the seat, just clamp it there. Or get a smaller one. Where is your battery located? When I’m at the beach lots of times I put the cooler and other stuff on top of the bow it makes it easy to get at and keeps the stern up and bow down. You might also think about maybe putting all the hoses through one sealed opening. It seems like you are going about it in the right direction by getting rid of the hydraulic jack, one battery and one trim pump. The light weight cowl is always nice. Simple is best.
My battery is located on the back in the middle but more to the passenger side. My trim pump is located on the driver side. I was thinking of putting all of the wiring, cables, etc into one hose but i decided to put into two because it might stress the bottom pan and snap which ive seen happen. Ill be at the keys at the sandbar/tiki bar this weekend from Saturday to monday.
action17
08-27-2007, 01:10 PM
worked 29 srx @ I think 6500 but I can't remember exactly. Boat has done 96.7 with modified 200 Merc, 2:1 coned lower and 32 ET again not positive on RPM maybe 7400. I don't focus on the tech too much at those speeds I look for those dam cormorant birds. You got to love top speed recall on the GPS.
I turned it 7000 rpm's at 89.9 on gps with the old xflow with the worked 29 srx.
Action Dave
08-27-2007, 03:10 PM
I turned it 7000 rpm's at 89.9 on gps with the old xflow with the worked 29 srx.
Numbers don't add up dude...Unless you had way too much positive trim and the prop was slipping. 7000rpm w/a 29 sould be well over 90. I've hit 90 on my gps and I only turn my worked 29 6700.
dixtover
08-27-2007, 04:24 PM
I have my battery between the driver and passenger seats and just like you I have the battery about 1.5 inches more toward the passenger side. Because you have the seat box you might want to try putting it right behind. If you like it there then you could cut an indentation into the back of the box to keep it out of the way or just put it in a battery box. I have also placed the battery between the driver’s and the passenger’s feet but I didn’t like all the weight in the bow. You might though. Like most I put just about anything that would be lying around under the bow. I have the fuel pump and filter on the port side stern and all the electrical and rigging running on the starboard side. I don’t have a transom mounted trim pump. The gas tank is I think 18 gallons and sticks out about four inches in front of the filled in splash well. So there is about 4 inches between the back of the gas tank and the transom. I actually glassed in the second hole in the cowling pan. I never thought about the cowling pan snapping but the extra glass I added to close the other hole should hold it all together. Proper weight distribution is the key. I also think people have their own driving styles and purposes for their boat and need to distribute weight for that style. I need to get a 15 inch mid to lower my center of gravity but I never will.
cc@100mph
08-27-2007, 05:36 PM
I have my battery between the driver and passenger seats and just like you I have the battery about 1.5 inches more toward the passenger side. Because you have the seat box you might want to try putting it right behind. If you like it there then you could cut an indentation into the back of the box to keep it out of the way or just put it in a battery box. I have also placed the battery between the driver’s and the passenger’s feet but I didn’t like all the weight in the bow. You might though. Like most I put just about anything that would be lying around under the bow. I have the fuel pump and filter on the port side stern and all the electrical and rigging running on the starboard side. I don’t have a transom mounted trim pump. The gas tank is I think 18 gallons and sticks out about four inches in front of the filled in splash well. So there is about 4 inches between the back of the gas tank and the transom. I actually glassed in the second hole in the cowling pan. I never thought about the cowling pan snapping but the extra glass I added to close the other hole should hold it all together. Proper weight distribution is the key. I also think people have their own driving styles and purposes for their boat and need to distribute weight for that style. I need to get a 15 inch mid to lower my center of gravity but I never will.
wont it swamp the motor with a 15 inch mid ? or do you know of one with a 15"
dixtover
08-27-2007, 05:57 PM
I did know someone that had a 15 inch on a 16 and he really liked it. I would have to measure my transom to make sure if I was really going to do it. My transom is a little different with the lip up. So it might not work.
cc@100mph
08-27-2007, 06:09 PM
I did know someone that had a 15 inch on a 16 and he really liked it. I would have to measure my transom to make sure if I was really going to do it. My transom is a little different with the lip up. So it might not work.
i have an original action 18 with no splash well id be curios to get pros and cons on the 15" and difference in speed ?
cc@100mph
08-27-2007, 06:36 PM
here are a couple of pics you can see the transom
cc@100mph
08-27-2007, 06:45 PM
this might be better to see !
dixtover
08-27-2007, 07:00 PM
Yea I don't know if it would work on the 18 I have only heard of it on a 16.
Here is a pic of my transom.
dixtover
08-27-2007, 07:01 PM
He said it handled better I don't know if he had much of a speed increase.
bluecheckmate
08-27-2007, 09:17 PM
The boat ran great!!!. i went off of maddison hammock to marine stadium today. i cruised around 3k- 3200rpm the whole way. It kinda bogs a little but tamping the throttle a little cleans it right up. Cant wait to open it up. :D. I snap some pics while it was beached by marine stadium.
bluecheckmate
08-27-2007, 09:24 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/preppboy/boat.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/preppboy/boat8272007.jpg
Action Dave
08-28-2007, 08:43 AM
i have an original action 18 with no splash well id be curios to get pros and cons on the 15" and difference in speed ?
I have a friend who put a Taylor shortie mid on his OMC and hung it on an 18 Action. The transom is too tall. He had to invert the jackplate to run the motor lower than the transom. I'm just fine with my 20" jacked up to the sky.
action17
08-28-2007, 11:16 AM
Numbers don't add up dude...Unless you had way too much positive trim and the prop was slipping. 7000rpm w/a 29 sould be well over 90. I've hit 90 on my gps and I only turn my worked 29 6700.
I understand what your saying. The day this happend it was 53* outside. I guess the difference would be x-flow to looper. I did however check the prop calculater when I had the STV same prop at 7300 was high 90's also remember the rule of thumb is to prop up with a worked prop meaning a 29 that's worked is figured at a 30.
action17
08-28-2007, 11:18 AM
I have my battery between the driver and passenger seats and just like you I have the battery about 1.5 inches more toward the passenger side. Because you have the seat box you might want to try putting it right behind. If you like it there then you could cut an indentation into the back of the box to keep it out of the way or just put it in a battery box. I have also placed the battery between the driver’s and the passenger’s feet but I didn’t like all the weight in the bow. You might though. Like most I put just about anything that would be lying around under the bow. I have the fuel pump and filter on the port side stern and all the electrical and rigging running on the starboard side. I don’t have a transom mounted trim pump. The gas tank is I think 18 gallons and sticks out about four inches in front of the filled in splash well. So there is about 4 inches between the back of the gas tank and the transom. I actually glassed in the second hole in the cowling pan. I never thought about the cowling pan snapping but the extra glass I added to close the other hole should hold it all together. Proper weight distribution is the key. I also think people have their own driving styles and purposes for their boat and need to distribute weight for that style. I need to get a 15 inch mid to lower my center of gravity but I never will.
If it is the original tank it's a 24 gal.
eyeloveboats
08-28-2007, 04:37 PM
15'' mid will work and you should see 3 to 5 mph and handle better
Tom Foley
08-28-2007, 05:08 PM
Ricky Where the hell have you been ? Big party the last weekend of Sept in Chiefland and Fanning , be there .
baja200merk
08-28-2007, 05:14 PM
3-5?? i was thinking 1-2 thanks to less weight, drag.
thanks for the invite foley :rolleyes:
Kevin ;) :D
Tom Foley
08-28-2007, 07:20 PM
3-5?? i was thinking 1-2 thanks to less weight, drag.
thanks for the invite foley :rolleyes:
Kevin ;) :D
Bring it Kevin , didnt know you were down here now ...look for thread posted by parker tonight .
dixtover
08-28-2007, 08:28 PM
I put a sportmaster case on this summer and lost about 3.7 mph. I went from 96.7mph to 93mph. The bob’s case was 2:1 7400 rpms the sporty 1:87 6900 rpms both spinning a 32 Lightening ET. I should be going faster then I am with this set up. I know I would lose some speed due to more drag and about 300 rpms due to gear ratio but I was not expecting that much. A friend told me to raise the engine to compensate for the sporty but I forgot how much he said. I think it was 5/8. I just raised the engine prop shaft to 1.5 inches above the pad how does that sound? Should the sportmaster case be run higher then a stock case with a bob’s cone? I have 5inches of setback. Thanks,
baja200merk
08-28-2007, 08:38 PM
Bring it Kevin , didnt know you were down here now ...look for thread posted by parker tonight .
okay man, lowers out at bobs gettin cleaned up didnt feel like messin with it :rolleyes: and that 2 yr warrentee is great :D so im out of commission for a few days, at least :( ...
dixtover
08-28-2007, 08:39 PM
Sorry I'm spinning more like 6400 rpms now not 6900.
DIZASTER420
08-30-2007, 06:41 PM
Ill get some better pics over the weekend. but heres a few of it in the water at least:D :cool: it ran solid today too. different prop higher jackplate = a good run:D
DIZASTER420
08-31-2007, 09:22 PM
I launched right in my neighborhood and blistered the intracoastal:D gonna do it again in the morning!!!!:cool: :eek:
dixtover
09-01-2007, 07:17 PM
Took the Action out today with a friend. We got the boat up to 94mph@7400rpms. Alone the boat should be a few mph faster. Total weight of boat with gear and persons for that trial were around 1550 pounds. Does the speed and slip seem to be about right for that weight? It just doesn’t seem to add up to me. This was with engine 11/2 inches above the pad.
Water pressure was 15psi at wot and 11psi at 4000 rpms. I have no thermostats in the cooling system. The engine was dumping water. Should I raise the motor more? It got up on plane fine. I did have to use a little positive trim for best speed. But that was with the extra person. I would like some opinions on this. I’m thinking of raising it another ¼inch.
RNM018
09-01-2007, 08:15 PM
With out knowing what your using , 28"pitch with a 1.87 at 7400rpm and 94mph would be 10% slip . Rich Martin 018:D
dixtover
09-01-2007, 09:51 PM
All that stuff is a couple posts up. But here it is 5 inch setback, 32 lightning ET 1.87 sportmaster.
RNM018
09-01-2007, 10:03 PM
In that case , It realy sucks . That comes out to 22% slip . but I geuse as long as your making the mph slip doesn't matter . I'd drop the pitch down to a 28" and work on getting it to hook up . It will be alot more fun to drive when it's able to accelorate. Rich Martin 018:cool:
dixtover
09-02-2007, 09:23 AM
I don't understand why the slip is so high. How does the ET handle weight? I just went to two differnt boat speed calculator sites one says I am about right for that weight the other says my slip is that 22%. I need to run the boat by my self and see what #'s I get. Should the slip go down with out the other person? I have a 29srx but I would have to send it out to be hubed for the fat shaft. I guess if I had less slip I would have less rpms?
baja200merk
09-03-2007, 10:04 PM
94! nice man! your slip sucks but i would think it would go down a bit more with out the passenger. my 29 srx slipped about the same, in the 20s but the motor was 2 inches below and the epoxy on the gear case was about as smooth as a gravel road. Nice numbers though, i have only seen low 80s kinda makes me want a merc :eek:
airman
09-06-2007, 07:31 PM
baja... mercs the only way. just go spen the money the wife says its ok:D
dixtover
09-08-2007, 10:03 PM
Here are some pics from today. Only one turned out nice. The camara man blamed it on the camera. Hopefully I did this right I've never used photobucket before.
Thanks Baja. The numbers are pretty good I just think there is more. Went out in the boat alone today to get some numbers. I never tried to top her out but did hit 95 multipul times. I looked at the tech at 92 mph and it read 6400 rpms. So that's pretty good. Its amazing what 185 pounds does. Boat should reach 100mph. It's just tough with it being side by side seating. It needs to be a center stear for those numbers. I can feel it tilting to my side when I get over 90. Thats with the battery on the passagner seat. Raising the motor to 1 1/2 above pad made a big differnce. Both with speed and stearing torqe. I picked up 4 - 5 mph with a passange. Still not sure how fast alone but its fast enough for now. I also have less stearing torqe which is nice.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd128/dixtover/actionrunning002.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd128/dixtover/actionrunning004.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd128/dixtover/actionrunning009.jpg
baja200merk
09-10-2007, 03:02 PM
nice shots!
had my boat out the other day wit the 29srx and it sucks gettin on plane! it takes about 25seconds to get up with the motor tucked all the way in and 3in below the pad. I have a plate on the cav plate, it helped but it still sucks... gonna try brinign it an inch above and see how it runs...
Action Dave
09-10-2007, 03:33 PM
nice shots!
had my boat out the other day wit the 29srx and it sucks gettin on plane! it takes about 25seconds to get up with the motor tucked all the way in and 3in below the pad. I have a plate on the cav plate, it helped but it still sucks... gonna try brinign it an inch above and see how it runs...
I don't know why you have so many problems planing in your boat. Mine planes easily with 29rx and I'm an inch+ above the pad. I think you have some torque issues with that powerhead. I do have to tuck it in or it won't plane nearly as fast. It'll do a wicked wheelie if I try to plane off trimmed out.:eek:
dixtover
09-10-2007, 03:38 PM
That sounds like a good idea. I was amazed what 1/2 inch did. With that 225 and a 29srx you should be pushing 90.
SkeeterD
09-10-2007, 04:11 PM
are you gonna go to the holiday isle gathering in two weeks,were heading up there on both days.Give me a call if ya want too hook up.3058962198 skeeter
baja200merk
09-10-2007, 06:44 PM
I don't know why you have so many problems planing in your boat. Mine planes easily with 29rx and I'm an inch+ above the pad. I think you have some torque issues with that powerhead. I do have to tuck it in or it won't plane nearly as fast. It'll do a wicked wheelie if I try to plane off trimmed out.:eek:
yea me neither, my last resort is make a plate for under the jackplate and jack it up to an inch above. I dont know how it will be any better higher:confused: about the power head, its box stock and spins the wheel 6200 3-4in below but Im still goin to tight heads for this weekend. hope jackin it up helps, thanks for ur help!
you definatly goin to the keys run?
SkeeterD
09-10-2007, 08:00 PM
How dou you like the 29srx,that was my favorite prop on my 19 action.Went to palatka last year and lost it, one week old.Im running a 28 cleaver on mine now cause thats all I got.I just put a 245 on my new lightning action and havent even come close wide open.This boat is super light and should do over 100.Are you going too the keys gathering,I hope theres a lot of actions there.
dixtover
09-10-2007, 08:40 PM
That sounds good Skeeterd. I will even bring my 29 srx if you would like to try it, just don't lose it:) Is Keys Dave going? I can only go on the 23 Sunday. I have work Friday and Jeremy and Rondas wedding on Saterday. I will give you a call this week.
Jeremy
dixtover
09-10-2007, 08:41 PM
yea me neither, my last resort is make a plate for under the jackplate and jack it up to an inch above. I dont know how it will be any better higher:confused: about the power head, its box stock and spins the wheel 6200 3-4in below but Im still goin to tight heads for this weekend. hope jackin it up helps, thanks for ur help!
you definatly goin to the keys run?
I would still try to jack it up. Is the engine able to wind up when you are tring to get on plane?
baja200merk
09-10-2007, 10:15 PM
i m the only action/looper/srx owner that will tell you this but i HATE the srx. it wont come out of the hole for chit and slips like mad everywhere else. its prolly cause im doin somthin wrong and ill keep you updated on its performance when i figure out what my problem is. i am gonna try to make it to the keys run should be a blast!
Kevin
baja200merk
09-10-2007, 10:16 PM
oh yea coming up on plane it will sit on the limiter all day if i let it :eek: but i have to let out a few times to get it to hook up
SkeeterD
09-11-2007, 06:09 AM
Who made your splash?I love my boat.Ive had a 20action, a19 action and this 18, this one is like the armstrong bottom.The motor that came off was a 20 inch, so I didnt touch the jack plate.I need to come up some,but the jack is maxed out.We have too do some cutting I think,plus with this cle I dont feel safe trying too go in the 90's yet.I also ran a 27 srx on my 19 and it would scream 7300 withe the 225 looper.Keys dave had the 18 actio0n aRMSTRONG i rode in the thing and tapped oyut at 107, he had it at 114 bye himself very sick boat.Hope too meet you guys at the sandbar.
bluecheckmate
09-11-2007, 06:49 AM
i dont have any planing problem with mine and im running a 28 cut chopper ET. I was skiing with my boat and no problems pulling my fat brother with the doughnut lol. But im looking around for a 30p ET
Action Dave
09-11-2007, 08:27 AM
I will be in the keys for the tiki bar run also. Hpefully saturday and sunday. At least one day for sure. My 29srx has been modded to a 30" pitch. I can still plane off with three passengers(two skinny girls) and a full tank of gas(and a full cooler).
bluecheckmate
09-11-2007, 09:27 AM
I will be in the keys for the tiki bar run also. Hpefully saturday and sunday. At least one day for sure. My 29srx has been modded to a 30" pitch. I can still plane off with three passengers(two skinny girls) and a full tank of gas(and a full cooler).
Very important.... A full cooler. :D :D
baja200merk
09-11-2007, 10:29 AM
bobby pasos said it was made by motion. its got a flat pad unlike real actions. im goin out today gonna bring the motor even-1inch up
kevin
Action Dave
09-11-2007, 11:16 AM
bobby pasos said it was made by motion. its got a flat pad unlike real actions. im goin out today gonna bring the motor even-1inch up
kevin
PaZos. My last name gets butchered on this board.:D
SkeeterD
09-11-2007, 01:41 PM
go try mine today with a 32 lab cleaver.The wind is blowing a little but not too bad.
baja200merk
09-12-2007, 03:55 PM
sorry dave lol
when is everyone gonna show up for the keys run?
baja200merk
09-13-2007, 08:11 PM
82.8 today with 10 gals on board. motors even +-1/2inch. what could another inch possibly get me? 2 mph? jack plate has a bad connection couldnt jack it up, ill try again tomorrow :rolleyes:
Action Dave
09-14-2007, 03:15 PM
I just don't get it Kevin. You seem to be doing everything right, you're just not getting the numbers you should be seeing. When I first put my boat together, almost 4 years ago, I had one of those "lightning" or "HO" OMC cases that I couldn't jack that high due to lack of lwp. I was running 82mph with the motor buried and a 27 renegade 4-blade.
baja200merk
09-14-2007, 04:04 PM
gonna try my friends 30 big ear hopefully tonight. hopfully its just cause of this stock junk im running. proper motor should be rigged monday ;)
thanks for the help man!
Kevin
bluecheckmate
09-18-2007, 10:44 AM
gonna try my friends 30 big ear hopefully tonight. hopfully its just cause of this stock junk im running. proper motor should be rigged monday ;)
thanks for the help man!
Kevin
Whats your WOT rpm.
baja200merk
09-18-2007, 10:51 AM
62-6300 1/2-1in below w/ 10 gal in the boat.
kevin
bluecheckmate
09-18-2007, 10:55 AM
I was revving before 6700 with the 28p copy et. I brought up the motor two notches from the mid section. Now its on number 4 out of 5. I took it out yesterday with dave. Got it up to 7100 with dave onboard. It ran nice. No problems planing. Well, it did take a little longer then before to plane but i was expecting that anyways
bluecheckmate
09-18-2007, 10:57 AM
And im not a skinny person. I weight 250 6ft tall. i put 18gal of fuel. Cant wait to take it out in the salt this weekend.
baja200merk
09-18-2007, 11:00 AM
i might get 65-6600 if i go 1-1.5 above like dave has been tellin me but i dono if ill ever get on plane lol :rolleyes:
baja200merk
10-25-2007, 03:22 PM
Got the motor an inch- 1 1/2 above. ran 6300 with the stock motor and it comes out of the hole like a jetski.
short video from the other day, some 06 yamaha with a loud mouth rich kid on it :rolleyes:
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1BadAction
10-25-2007, 03:25 PM
Got the motor an inch- 1 1/2 above. ran 6300 with the stock motor and it comes out of the hole like a jetski.
short video from the other day, some 06 yamaha with a loud mouth rich kid on it :rolleyes:
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ROFLMAO!!! that is the single best post you have ever made on this site. :D :eek: he got flat fukkn stomped. AWESOME.
dez nuts
10-25-2007, 04:56 PM
I had a 18 armstrong / action copy with a 15in merc that ran 118.2mph at 8400rpm with a 32 merc clever or 115 with a 28et at 9300 rpm was fun as hell to drive but was very flighty feeling at that speed 100 to 110 was a blast and very stable but after that was very dangerous will try to dig up a pic if i can find one be safe guys and let her eat. Keys Dave:rolleyes:
slowaction420
10-25-2007, 08:12 PM
nice pass baja .how fast ? dez whats a armstrong action?
baja200merk
10-25-2007, 09:37 PM
ROFLMAO!!! that is the single best post you have ever made on this site. :D :eek: he got flat fukkn stomped. AWESOME.
and he of coarse smoked me outta the hole so he looks back once laughin by the time he went to look back again i was next him :eek: <--- him lol
wats really funny is #1 my mom took the video and #2 his ski was like $12k a few months ago my boat was 5k if i count all the fuel and oil i ever put in it :p
dave thats nuts! 118 with what a 280 :eek:
i gotta guess im in the mid-upper eighties since i jacked the motor up 30p chopper etc. 6400-1.87-30p-.08=88 mph . i stuck with my friends HST/225 looper for 2 miles WFO on GLASS and he runs 87-88mph GPS(x3) all day everyday :D . mine died that day by the time i got to 77 :rolleyes:
i've proper looper on here now, just breakin it in for RR4 ;)
Kevin
p.s. uz better bring ur ass to RR4! (1bad:mad: )
dez nuts
10-26-2007, 08:26 AM
It is just another company that made the same boat as the action. Looked idenitcal ,it is the same as the 18 lightning, and the new 18/19 action, with the flat pad. That was with a stock drag with pump gas heads also ran 110with a stock 2.4bridgeport with a 200case with a bob;s and a 32cleaver with the motor as high as i could run and still have 5pds of water presure. I was running a hyd 6in bob;s jack boat was very stable and ran real well with 2 people in it. I took skeeter D for a ride up to about 110 til he tapped out and made me take him in. But the armstrong is the same as the lighning hull and i believe it has the same flat pad as the new action. Thanks Keys Dave:rolleyes:
baja200merk
10-26-2007, 08:45 AM
mines got the flat pad too but it says it was made by clearwater boat works, any idea who built it?
Action Dave
10-26-2007, 10:11 AM
Glad to hear you finally got that boat running the way it should be Kevin. If you bump the compression up to around 130lbs on that looper, you'll get an even better hole-shot and mid-range.
slowaction420
10-26-2007, 12:00 PM
i have a1979 18 action with concaved pad.still had oem tag said action marine hollywood fl. dont know how it got to ny?
Action Dave
10-26-2007, 03:05 PM
Action Marine sold quite a few boats from the late 70's through the eighties. I'm sure a few managed to make their way up north.
slowaction420
10-26-2007, 03:28 PM
they were never any made in ny right?
Action Dave
10-26-2007, 03:37 PM
they were never any made in ny right?
No. Any Action with Action Marine HIN was built in South Florida. I heard there was a guy up north, maybe Mass, that was building an Action copy for a while but I don't know for sure.
slowaction420
10-26-2007, 03:43 PM
mine is a 79 stub nose.i think it a real one?
( added my fleet to profile)
Action Dave
10-26-2007, 03:48 PM
If your boast has a stubby nose it is not an 18. To be honest I don't think they even came out with the 18 until the 80's. I think what you have is a 17. Can you post some pics?
slowaction420
10-26-2007, 03:54 PM
i will try later after work never posted pics before .on the site all the time just starting make friends and chat.thanks for your and evry ones help.
slowaction420
10-26-2007, 03:58 PM
i all so have a lot of pics of the resto i will try to post.the boat is comeing togther 2 years in the makeing!!!!!!!!!!
so happy
slowaction420
10-26-2007, 05:50 PM
dave cant get pics up yet.will start a new thread than.my reg says 18 ft.but
slowaction420
10-26-2007, 05:50 PM
dave cant get pics up yet.will start a new thread then.my reg says 18 ft.but the hin#? reads acm17125m79g
cc@100mph
10-26-2007, 06:23 PM
It is just another company that made the same boat as the action. Looked idenitcal ,it is the same as the 18 lightning, and the new 18/19 action, with the flat pad. That was with a stock drag with pump gas heads also ran 110with a stock 2.4bridgeport with a 200case with a bob;s and a 32cleaver with the motor as high as i could run and still have 5pds of water presure. I was running a hyd 6in bob;s jack boat was very stable and ran real well with 2 people in it. I took skeeter D for a ride up to about 110 til he tapped out and made me take him in. But the armstrong is the same as the lighning hull and i believe it has the same flat pad as the new action. Thanks Keys Dave:rolleyes:
Hey Dave
what do you think is possible with a 245 on an action 18 with the concave bottom and what setback and height would be needed ? Hector
dez nuts
10-27-2007, 07:58 AM
Hey Dave
what do you think is possible with a 245 on an action 18 with the concave bottom and what setback and height would be needed ? Hector
Hi hecter i used to have a 18 action with a 2.5 merc 200 with 150lbs commpression and reeds and light fly wheel and cut exshust with a 6in bob;s jack it would run rt at 100mph with a 29srx prop at about 7600rpm but the 18 in my opion is the most un stable boat they made it seams to have vert bad issue;s with the bow wanting to fly away i liked the 19 much better for top end it was not as fast 97 with the same motor and prop but felt alot sAFER TO ME ALTHOUGH THAT IS THE ONE I BLEW OVER AT 97 i really liked the way the 19 rode in compasion to the 18 i also had a 17 for a wile and a 16 for a while the 17 i only had a stock 2.4 200 with no low watwer pick up stock case and with that on a 6in man setback it would run 86mph gps with 2 people and was on the pad at 40mph it was the first speed boat i ever owned and was a blast i truely think the 16 in the fastest hull they made it is alot narrower that than rest thus catching less wind at speed and will run faster without trying to blowover as bad a friend of mine had one that he ran 122mph in and it was inpressive to watch though did not look very safe and every time he did it we prayed. But as for yours with a 245hp if you run a good cleaver and 6in hyd setback or just a 6in doesn;t really need to be hyd the reason i like the hyd is so i can move the motor at anytime thus i can drop it when i have passenger;s or jack it that last 1/16 by myself at the end to get the last mph;s out of it try a 14.5 x 32 lab clever and 6in setback and a good 245 you should see around 107 to 110 if everything is right also a 15in mid will help alot as lower the center of gavity and getting the powerhear out of the wind stream also lower your seat in the boat and put the steering in the center is a must hope this helps. Thanks Keys Dave:rolleyes:
cc@100mph
10-27-2007, 09:47 AM
Hi hecter i used to have a 18 action with a 2.5 merc 200 with 150lbs commpression and reeds and light fly wheel and cut exshust with a 6in bob;s jack it would run rt at 100mph with a 29srx prop at about 7600rpm but the 18 in my opion is the most un stable boat they made it seams to have vert bad issue;s with the bow wanting to fly away i liked the 19 much better for top end it was not as fast 97 with the same motor and prop but felt alot sAFER TO ME ALTHOUGH THAT IS THE ONE I BLEW OVER AT 97 i really liked the way the 19 rode in compasion to the 18 i also had a 17 for a wile and a 16 for a while the 17 i only had a stock 2.4 200 with no low watwer pick up stock case and with that on a 6in man setback it would run 86mph gps with 2 people and was on the pad at 40mph it was the first speed boat i ever owned and was a blast i truely think the 16 in the fastest hull they made it is alot narrower that than rest thus catching less wind at speed and will run faster without trying to blowover as bad a friend of mine had one that he ran 122mph in and it was inpressive to watch though did not look very safe and every time he did it we prayed. But as for yours with a 245hp if you run a good cleaver and 6in hyd setback or just a 6in doesn;t really need to be hyd the reason i like the hyd is so i can move the motor at anytime thus i can drop it when i have passenger;s or jack it that last 1/16 by myself at the end to get the last mph;s out of it try a 14.5 x 32 lab clever and 6in setback and a good 245 you should see around 107 to 110 if everything is right also a 15in mid will help alot as lower the center of gavity and getting the powerhear out of the wind stream also lower your seat in the boat and put the steering in the center is a must hope this helps. Thanks Keys Dave:rolleyes:
dave what do you think of the concave bottom ?
1BadAction
10-27-2007, 09:57 AM
a lot of good info in this post.... thanks Keys Dave ;)
dez nuts
10-27-2007, 07:13 PM
The concave bottom is good as well the 16 has a concave bottom and is very fast. It isn;t hard to make one of these boats go relatively fast with a decent motor 100 is not a question with any of them even the large twenty will run 100 pretty easy with a stock 280 and some setup and a good prop just becareful in these they were never designed to go even 100 and will blow over very easy & WITHOUT WARNING :confused: Later Keys Dave;)
cc@100mph
10-27-2007, 08:08 PM
The concave bottom is good as well the 16 has a concave bottom and is very fast. It isn;t hard to make one of these boats go relatively fast with a decent motor 100 is not a question with any of them even the large twenty will run 100 pretty easy with a stock 280 and some setup and a good prop just becareful in these they were never designed to go even 100 and will blow over very easy & WITHOUT WARNING :confused: Later Keys Dave;)
thanks man
SkeeterD
10-27-2007, 09:03 PM
I have a 18 lightning with a 245hp, ive only got a cle on there now,and havent hung her out yet.When i get back from river ranch im getting a bobs put on the cle or getting a sportmaster, then im gonna let dave hang her out too see what shell do.Dave had my boat 97+ with him and another person in there, when it had a 225 supermag on her.Ill post as soon as he runs my rig.
slowaction420
10-28-2007, 10:31 AM
action dave ?or dave who?how abuot 79 18' with a 2.4 200 bobs with tork tad and a 6' set back hyd plate 28 et. ball park#? i had a looper 120 24p raker no low water pick up no plate with the motor up as hi s i could go. my best pass was with 2 guys in boat me 200+200+ ran 69.8 on gps.not bad at least i think not bad
baja200merk
10-28-2007, 10:55 AM
lotta good info!
as for actions in NY i know theres a 16 action in the yard i used to work at. Its tucked all the way in the back of Rivera's on 72nd st in far rockaway NY. boats got a inline on it and its in tough shape but could be a fun and very cheap project for some one. Let me know if any ones interested ;)
SatisfAction
10-28-2007, 12:02 PM
Some shots of mine. She needs a lil work still but it's getting there!
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/STR8JACKED/100_1154-1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/STR8JACKED/100_1155-1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/STR8JACKED/100_1158.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/STR8JACKED/100_1157.jpg
SkeeterD
10-28-2007, 04:18 PM
18 armstrong.
baja200merk
10-28-2007, 10:05 PM
Some shots of mine. She needs a lil work still but it's getting there!
that boat looks identical to mine! post some pics of under the rear deck (where the splash well would be). who built that hull and where was it built? any idea what it weighs?
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