The ignorance that could get someone hurt

[Ron V]

Wish this guy would have offered to buy my boat if he wrecked it, would have been a good show to take him up on his offer.

Was out on the lake today, had my dad with me. Windy, boat wakes everywhere, basically a 30 mph day, every once in a while you could maybe make a quick sprint up to 50 or so. We were idling along in the middle of the lake and this friend of ours pulls up on his waverunner and starts nagging me about how he never gets to see my boat run, how I'm always going slow when I go past his house (the lake has a 30 mph speed limit), making fun of me and telling me I'm just like my uncle who never drove his Johnson V-4 over 20 mph. I told him that since he holds a political office maybe he should try to help get rid of the @#$% cop on the lake. More heckling - (why worry about the cop, what's he gonna do to you, etc.). I told him it's too damn rough to open the boat up even if there was no cop. Then he basically demonstrated his ignorance in full.

Friend: "You should let me in there, I'd hold it to the floor right through all of this no problem"

My dad: "No, you wouldn't. You'd never get it over 55. You'd be upside down."

Friend: "NAWWW....NO WAY!!!!"

My dad: "I've been driving boats like this my whole life and I've never been able to get this one over about 55 or 60."

Friend: "But my son has that Checkmate (an '81 Predictor with a 140 Johnson) and I've driven that 55 or so and it's fine."

My dad: "Totally different boat. This one would dump you."

Friend: "Well, then something's wrong. Then the motor is too big or something."

Me: "No, that's how a v-bottom acts when it climbs up on the keel and gets going."


I love the logic - "let's see, I drove an overweight Checkmate and I cracked 55 mph (on the speedometer), so I can surely drive a Rapid Craft v-bottom with no pad at 70 mph (on radar) in holiday weekend boat rollers with gusty winds. My experience is with waverunners and Malibu ski boats, yet I need to show this guy how to drive his boat."

[motoxconnection]

I have come to one conclusion about people.........

There is no cure for stupid!

[NicePackage]

People just don't get it. There's a reason SMART people don't loan out their high performance boats and cars. A respectful person in the drivers seat who is listening to you is another thing tho.

[Little Jon]

I know of one person that I know i guess some what closely like that. Says there is nothing hard about driving an Allison

[RNM018]

I know of one person that I know i guess some what closely like that. Says there is nothing hard about driving an Allison

Well Jon , The hardest part about driving a Allison ,is learning how to get back in . Glad I'm not a Real Allison Driver ,like the St.Cloud Gang ! Rich Martin 018:D

[Techno]

Wish this guy would have offered to buy my boat if he wrecked it, would have been a good show to take him up on his offer.

This is like the old bet that "we won't survive this" this is a good bet to take since you can't lose. If you die you can't pay and if you don't die your still alive and also collect on the bet.
The problem with the guy offering to buy the boat if he wrecked it is like the above bet.:D He can't lose. He either wrecks it and can't pay... or he don't wreck it.

[Little Jon]

Well Jon , The hardest part about driving a Allison ,is learning how to get back in . Glad I'm not a Real Allison Driver ,like the St.Cloud Gang ! Rich Martin 018:D


LOL. You can still drive an allison can't you? lol.

[stokernick]

probably should have told him to sell his jetski and buy it and show you!Put up,or shut up!!

[afr]

wow
sounds like a re peat
i get the same thing fom my bud
ah he says ill hold it to the floor
i just say well your just dumb and walk away
i dont tell him anything more and i change the subject
then my other bud
ahh if you cant go across the harbour at least 50 with those wakes
you boat is usless he says
so i changed a few things
no i can go as fast a condition will permit right be side his 2.5 tunnel with my 115 no granted he can run away
but now he says all that thing rides so nice its perfic
then saturday morning we are sopose to put a better bigger tank in my boat
he calls and gets the machine
ahh im going out with so and so ill see you out there if you go
now he knows i pulled my tank battery everthing to get ready for his new tank
i fixed his boat in time for the 4 th
just friggin say hey man i changed my plans heres the stuff you needed i told you you could have and see you later
or ill be back me and so and so are going for a run

[INXS]

I finally got my mods done to my motor and have had my Checkmate out four times and haven't WOT it for more then about five seconds due to choppy waters. Sure I could push it a lot more and I'm sure I could handel it but at speeds near 75 mph all you need is to miss a swell or two and you're in trouble. Ramdon swells pop up everywhere in my bay and it's not ez to see them at that speed. That guy is really a jerk to think he can take a boat that he never driven and WOT it in a chop! And Checkmates do not handel a Chop at all!!

[JUPITER PULSARE]

And Checkmates do not handel a Chop at all!!

Hey INSX, that's a very relative statement. The Starflite you have does not handle chop that well do to the very mild deadrise at the bow. The more aggressive the deadrise the better the boat is able to "cleve" the rough stuff. That's why most offshore rigs carry a 24 degree deadrise and many lake boats have less than 19 degrees. The Checkmate Pulsares handle chop and ride much better than the starflites, I've driven them both and I'm constantly running the ocean in my Pulsare. I do believe the Starflite, power for power, is a faster boat due to the small step in the hull....but I'd yet to see someone due a direct comparison between the two boats.

[Forkin' Crazy]

I told him that since he holds a political office maybe he should try to help get rid of the @#$% cop on the lake.

I have come to the conclusion that ALL politicians are idiots!!!!!

There is nothing hard about driving an Allison. IF you have them set up right, and a good bit of seat time..... ;) They do well in rough water too. :D

[150aintenuff]

1 thing is for sure .. Cmates handle chop better than hydrostreams..... regardless of starflite or pulsar..

[afr]

yep i agree all incumbents out
that's the way i vote

[INXS]

And Checkmates do not handel a Chop at all!!

Hey INSX, that's a very relative statement. The Starflite you have does not handle chop that well do to the very mild deadrise at the bow. The more aggressive the deadrise the better the boat is able to "cleve" the rough stuff. That's why most offshore rigs carry a 24 degree deadrise and many lake boats have less than 19 degrees. The Checkmate Pulsares handle chop and ride much better than the starflites, I've driven them both and I'm constantly running the ocean in my Pulsare. I do believe the Starflite, power for power, is a faster boat due to the small step in the hull....but I'd yet to see someone due a direct comparison between the two boats.
I've got to get back to you on this one, I'm leaving work now and I'm :confused: about what deadrise is? Anyway, I should have specified Starflites as my Enchanter wasn't as bad. I can see why I'll have to add that 6", total of 12", to my jackplate. Since I did my mods to the motor the Starflite flys all iover the place, and that's with a powertech tr3. Anyway I agree it's a fast hull, also dangerous. Could be why they stopped making them. My mech., who races, said that their hull was banded from one of the race circuits?

[Techno]

We had an offshore race here once, just once. One person died when he stuffed the bow.
All of them apparently were running like it was the ocean. The boat in question came off what I call a 'mogul' and landed in the hole. Its not a roller or a wave but a single mound of water that forms, when it forms the area around it depresses. Its not nice.

BTW INXS said choppy not chop. Note the difference.:D

[150aintenuff]

We had an offshore race here once, just once. One person died when he stuffed the bow.
All of them apparently were running like it was the ocean. The boat in question came off what I call a 'mogul' and landed in the hole. Its not a roller or a wave but a single mound of water that forms, when it forms the area around it depresses. Its not nice.

BTW INXS said choppy not chop. Note the difference.:D

holes are fun... as long as you go OVER them... if ya land in them they seriously suck.... seen people break all sorts of things... ribs, arms, boats, wrists... we get them here and they will always be JUST big enough that it doesnt matter if its a 14' boat or a 46 foot boat it is JUST 2 feet longer than the boat is long to bridge it.... they tend to form as currents change directoion or if the wind switches the way its blowing.... you will have consistant 2' chop... and then all of a sudded... bang... 6 foot hole..... air time and usually something ends up broken......

[afr]

yep my harbour does the same thing even on a flat day you can get a hole
ive seen some air time like 6 seconds so far
but made it just by luck and the grace of God
lucky i saw it right at the last second and got off the gass but she still poped up almost stuff it but she landed on her tail

[INXS]

OK It's Chop! I knew someone was going to hit me with that!:D
Speaking of holes, the Hudson around NYC is know from that. Two seperate boaters I know hit them and got bruised-up, they said if they were going faster I could have been deadly. Another friend got thrown into the back of his boat by a rouge wave from a tug boat that swelled up on them. I took my old Checkmate up there a few times and it's risky with the swells and holes. I here the holes are formed from the shallow areas around drop-offs which pull the water down at times. That video of those guys flying out of the speed boat was from that area I believe.