keys dave runs 135mph today in his stv

[PARKER RABE]

HOT OFF THE PRESS!!!!!!!!dave ran 135 mph today , he was running his diamond marine ported 280 , with an svs , etc. spinning his lab 34 cleaver , that hauling ass with a sportmaster ? PICS TO FOLLOW ONCE EVERYBODY RETURNES HOME !!!!!! CONGRATS DAVE !!!!!!!!!

I THINK THATS THE RECORD FOR A BIG CASE !!!! IM SPEECHLESS:)

[PARKER RABE]

That Boat Would Run Close To 150 With A Speedmaster.....!

[RBT]

no no no, GPI ran 140+ with his...... just nobody ever saw it.............. LOL

RT

BTW that is a HUGE NUMBER! CONGRATS!

[Frank Molé]

nice number:D cant beat those DIAMOND 280s:D :D :D

[dhoday]

news travels fast just got off the phone with him myself thats cooking!!!!
congrats Dave

[paul folks]

damn good run dave....

[Fish]

That takes some stones... in addition to setup, driving, diamond power..etc. Congrats dave, that is frickin screaming!

[Raceman]

no no no, GPI ran 140+ with his...... just nobody ever saw it.............. LOL


I saw it........ on TV. Everything on TV is true, right?????????? :rolleyes: It was on radar too............ nevermind that the radar was shooting at a 90 degree angle to the boat.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Seriously though Dave........ that's a HUGE number. Congratulations. I hope you're bein' REAL careful with it.

[Michael Dixon]

Good job Dave....the fastest I ever went with a Sportmaster was 133. As Far as I know your 135 is the fastest a sportmaster has ever been on an STV. Congratulations!!

[scawd the dog]

HE WAS HAULING ASS>>>>>

BRENT:D

http://www.putfile.com/scawd/images/78036

[Fish]

I saw it........ on TV. Everything on TV is true, right?????????? :rolleyes: It was on radar too............ nevermind that the radar was shooting at a 90 degree angle to the boat.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


LOL, i remeber the previous posts. Lots of haters out there.

[beer30]

That's a HUGE number!!!!!!!;) Great job.:) Chuck

[Instigator]

I'm speechless!! (almost) :p

What gear ratio and R's ??? Anyone know??

Had perfect weather for making power.

Congrats to Diamond Marine too. Simply amazing!

Congrats Dave, that Rocks!

[PARKER RABE]

god thats fast , u gotta realize hank was only running 138 when he blew over and that was a full blown drag motor , tons of nitrous and a speedy ? to do it with daves set up is unbeliveable

[jphii]

Good job Dave!!

[Riverratt]

Nice run. Just out of curiousity what was Helmuts top speed with the euro and what gear case was it? Didn't he hit the 130's also?

[PARKER RABE]

helmut was running a sportmaster , i dont think he hit 130....think it was 127 or so....

[Corona Mike]

Great Pass Dave!!! Just Be carefull I want to see you in March!! Mike T.

[nelsoncat]

What model and hull does Dave have? What steering?

Thats SWEEEET

[mach351]

Good job deez, but I heard Ed was hawkin ya down!! LOL:eek:

[Scott Gilmore]

no no no, GPI ran 140+ with his...... just nobody ever saw it.............. LOL

RT

BTW that is a HUGE NUMBER! CONGRATS!


RT, from what I've heard you're BLIND & can't drive a boat .As usual you're a kiss-ass douche bag. Bring up a driver like Pierson in this post ?? SAD VERY SAD !!! :( Congratulations on that run Dave , that's something spectacular !!!! Scott :D :D

[PARKER RABE]

RT, from what I've heard you're BLIND & can't drive a boat .As usual you're a kiss-ass douche bag. Bring up a driver like Pierson in this post ?? SAD VERY SAD !!! :( Congratulations on that run Dave , that's something spectacular !!!! Scott :D :D


:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[KWACTION]

crazy fast....

[riebie]

Congratulations, Dave!
That amazing run took skill, a great boat, and mighty big "cuhungas".

[stylishskier]

I could have sworn I remember seeing a gps number of 131 and change for helmut as the top speed, dont quote me on that, they did 125-127 pretty regularly I thought.
Awesome speed for that setup and case! Wheres 140 at?!:D

[The Big Al]

WOW!!!!!

MAybe one day triple digits for me but 135mph on the water.

WOW:eek: WOW :eek: WOW

[Scott Gilmore]

I saw it........ on TV. Everything on TV is true, right?????????? :rolleyes: It was on radar too............ nevermind that the radar was shooting at a 90 degree angle to the boat.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Seriously though Dave........ that's a HUGE number. Congratulations. I hope you're bein' REAL careful with it.
Funny how people that can't run a boat that fast like to RUN their mouth instead of the boat...............something like YOU !! Scott :D :D

[merctech5591]

congrat's on the run, today was the day to do it !! no wind and cool weather.. :D:D:D

[Racemore]

Way to go Dave.Thats getting it done.


I would think Jack Barsh would be close to that in his Unlimited in the 1/4 on both stages.V-8 with a merc case.Thats with a capsule though.Running 135 in a open boat is an adrenaline spike for sure.:cool:

[Instigator]

numbers.
I gots to know :D
Going to play w/a prop calculator right now :p

[Instigator]

numbers.
I gots to know :D
Going to play w/a prop calculator right now :p

8700 X 34 X 10% slip = 135!

I didn't think that kind of speed was even possible w/1.87's
Don't know that that's what he ran but I'd have guessed 1.75's at least.
Like to see a video of that pass.

[THE HOGG]

and thats without juice right?? awesome!! congrats..

[action17]

Dave,

Way go buddy that's awesome!! I heard the news around 5:15pm this afternoon. I don't know who was more excited Warren or him. Again way to go man thats awesome!!:D

[dez nuts]

hi guys just got home and can see there is plenty of news the news travels fast that was a 187 sportmaster the first pass i made was with a 14.5 34 single labed cleaver not very thin and ran 133.5 at 8740rpm then went in and changed props to a very thin 15x34 cleaver that belonged to brent and the fisrt pass with that prop was 134.8 and i wanted to try to hit 135 so made another pass and went 135.0 at 8690. i don't think it has any more in it and the 15x34 carries the boatb really strange does not feel steady and lifts the whole boat have to use a lot on neg trim to keep the bow down then the stern wants to lift to much don;t really like the feeling of the 15 dia think it is to much stern lift going to send the 14.5 out and have it thinned down.thanks for all the kind words and see everyone at the ranch if not sooner keys dave

[Fish]

looks like it is time to change the avatar too! Congrats again man.

fish

[dez nuts]

no juice i don;t mess with that stuff that is with a ported to the gunins 280 with ams drag electrics and 26cc heads this motor makes peak power at 8500 to 8600rpm thats why i went to a 34 i used to run a 32 but the rpm and slip were higher and was getting to far past the rpm band of this motor had ran 132.5 with the 32 but was spinning 9250 to 9300 to do it and thought it would be faster with a 34 and wala 135.0 keys dave:rolleyes:

[Raceman]

Funny how people that can't run a boat that fast like to RUN their mouth instead of the boat...............something like YOU !! Scott :D :D

Sorry if my sarcasm about yo' hero ruined a perfectly good buzz for ya'.:p

[Ospreyproduction]

That's BIG DOINS!!

My hat's off to those who run like that but I ain't got the balls.....got two kids I wanna see off to school.

Nothing wrong with either side of that fence.

Nothing better that watching one of these things haulin ass like that. Nice job, especially with a sportmaster. Maybe thats what is pushing up at that speed rather than the 15x34 cleaver.

[boston]

CONGRATS KING DAVE,

That is an awesome number!!!
You guys have got to realise how FAST that is with a stock sportmaster
and no nitrous.
That is flat out flying.

Dennis

[Racemore]

Maybe a little higher will help with that 15" diameter and a big case.

[Cp]

Congrats, 'dez nutz'! Fantastic number. This didn't happen without a LOT of effort. Who did the case?

To Twible, RM, and the rest of the rest of the posse. It's really sad, but yet ironic and appropriate that people can't have a discussion here about top performing outboard boats without someone bringing up GPI....

[WR_Merc]

Congrats awsome #s. This sucks to damn cold here in PA to boat but im glad to here you guys are keeping it alive, Be safe and once again awsome speed;)

[Instigator]

Been looking at the same thing on mine (even though its a pig in comparison)
I've been running 13 1/2 and have higher than wanted slip #s and have been shopping for 14" to 15" diameter wheels to see what happens.
Dave, if your motor is ported for a peak @ 8500ish I don't think you can do much better than that! Meaning perfect!
Interesting results from earlier testing too.
Gary

[Hot Shot Merc]

Dave thats awsome.Be carefull dude.You need to buy a Q-shot and see what ya can do.I might sell ya mine ;)

[dez nuts]

nothing is ever perfect if the motor could turn more it would go faster but it can;t that is alot of blade to swing that high and for going up any more i can't i don't have enough water presure to go up any more the 15dia is lifting the ass of the boat a little more than the 14.5 does and the boat is setup for the 14.5 with the extra stern lift i am loseing to much water pre and am on the close end of not enough water presure to keep the motor cool will run the 14.5 after is is worked like the 15dia and see what happens the 15dia really is unsafe on this setup it is a handful to drive as the boat is trying to fly to much in the bow and stern but when you get it set just right it really goes the way the numbers climb from 50to 130 are amazing how fast they are. don't think i will be trying to go any faster with a sportmaster though want to try a xr case i here they are faster never tried one or a speedmaster and see what it will do maybe i can get dennis and warren and we can come up and visit mike dixon and do some testing sometime, i have always wanted to go to other states to run with some of the other guys in this sport but never had the chance so maybe this year i can get away to do it. instigator you need to run a larger dia prop like a 14.5 or maybe 14.3/4 depending on your engine height with that tiny dia you will get huge slip just my opinon. thanks again for all the kind words anyone who does this kind of running knows what kind of time and work not to mention money goes into this,would like to thank marty and joe from diamond for the awsom motor have had it for years haven't ran this one in a while (over a year) and motor ran flawless this is by far the most powerful motor i have ever ran and it even idle's good thanks again. keys dave

[Riverratt]

I bet if you put that set up on Hot Shots old Lightning it would run 136:eek:

[Astro]

congrats man!! awesome numbers

[RBT]

RT, from what I've heard you're BLIND & can't drive a boat .As usual you're a kiss-ass douche bag. Bring up a driver like Pierson in this post ?? SAD VERY SAD !!! :( Congratulations on that run Dave , that's something spectacular !!!! Scott :D :D

Scott ( and CP ), I was making a joke.

Now Scott, you really show your true color's with your above comment. Yes, I have some blindness in my left eye. I have irreversible nerve damage, this removes a lot of my confidence in driving at speed as my depth perception is weak.
For you to make a slanderous comment toward someone with an incurable disease really makes me sad, you have made light of my personal situation and everyone else with a handicap. That sir makes you pathetic.

RT

[yellowallison]

CONGRADS DAVE!! AWESSOME RUN!!! :D :D :D :D

jus be CAREFULL!........

[PARKER RABE]

Dave Gonna Pull Me On Skis This Weekend Behind It !

[Tom Foley]

Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PARKER RABE]

Im Gonna Wear A Ski Belt And A Football Helmet Just In Case !!!

[1BadAction]

Congrats Dave, but please don't try an XR case.

[WARLOCK]

Scott ( and CP ), I was making a joke.

Now Scott, you really show your true color's with your above comment. Yes, I have some blindness in my left eye. I have irreversible nerve damage, this removes a lot of my confidence in driving at speed as my depth perception is weak.
For you to make a slanderous comment toward someone with an incurable disease really makes me sad, you have made light of my personal situation and everyone else with a handicap. That sir makes you pathetic.

RT
I usually don't get involved in stuff like this but....
Scott, NO CLASS!!!! Later, Dave

[beer30]

Can somebody post some pic's of the boat.:) Would love to see the set-up. Thanks, Chuck.

[Scott Gilmore]

Scott ( and CP ), I was making a joke.

Now Scott, you really show your true color's with your above comment. Yes, I have some blindness in my left eye. I have irreversible nerve damage, this removes a lot of my confidence in driving at speed as my depth perception is weak.
For you to make a slanderous comment toward someone with an incurable disease really makes me sad, you have made light of my personal situation and everyone else with a handicap. That sir makes you pathetic.

RT

Don't like INSULTS & "slander" ??? GOOD, because YOU do it all the time & that makes YOU pathetic !!! I'm not making light of anyones personal situation & NEVER do ! You seem to be the pro at that. From now on I'll try & avoid your posts I hope you can do the same for me. Scott :mad:

[1BadAction]

you do realize that GPI is the laughing stock of the perf. boating world, right?

[PARKER RABE]

:eek:
you do realize that GPI is the laughing stock of the perf. boating world, right?

[Scott Gilmore]

you do realize that GPI is the laughing stock of the perf. boating world, right?

Sure whatever you say !! Scott :D

[RBT]

Scott, I never attack anyone personally unless the do it first.
What I find interesting is when I was introduced to you in Jasper you seemed like a decent fellow, apparently once you have a keyboard in front of you things change. You are truly a two faced pathetic little man.

[Chummy]

Can somebody post some pic's of the boat.:) Would love to see the set-up. Thanks, Chuck.

me too :)

[specboatops]

you do realize that GPI is the laughing stock of the perf. boating world, right?

WHY CUZ HE'S NOT FROM THE SOUTH:eek: :confused: opinions vary !

[jmg944t]

Those certainly are impressive numbers. At what point do these boats (STV type tunnels) start to get dangerous? To clarify my question a bit I'll try to explain what I am asking. In perfect conditions my Viper which is set up well is rock solid at 65 alone and I am not really concerned. At 72-75 it is fun though it requires my complete attention. At 80 it is not unstable but it feels like things could go bad quickly and I don't want to drive that fast for long. I consider that to be the line between dangerous and fun, when I don't want to be there for long. So I know it is different for everyone but you probably know what I mean. Where are these lines on STV's or Q-shots assuming a well sorted rig and decent conditions?

[beer30]

Guys take the bullchit somewhere else, don't kill this thread with the all the crap. 135 is flying, no matter who's doing it.;) Start a NEW thread and go at it, but not on this one.:) Chuck

[1BadAction]

Jim, I think (with a properly setup STV) the conditions you are running in make it dangerous before the hull handling itself becomes an issue. they are on rails at any speed it seems like.

[dez nuts]

Those certainly are impressive numbers. At what point do these boats (STV type tunnels) start to get dangerous? To clarify my question a bit I'll try to explain what I am asking. In perfect conditions my Viper which is set up well is rock solid at 65 alone and I am not really concerned. At 72-75 it is fun though it requires my complete attention. At 80 it is not unstable but it feels like things could go bad quickly and I don't want to drive that fast for long. I consider that to be the line between dangerous and fun, when I don't want to be there for long. So I know it is different for everyone but you probably know what I mean. Where are these lines on STV's or Q-shots assuming a well sorted rig and decent conditions?can't really answer that completely i feel they are pretty safe even at 130plus depending on conditions and setup my boat 133.5 with the 14.5x 34 felt very stable and solid but when i put the 15x34 on it did not i think it is up to the driver of each rig the more familer you are with you rig and setup the more sequre you feel and no what to expect from you boat but to answer that question i don't really know i do think 135 is probally pushing the limit of a stock sportmaster that is a very large case and is blowing a very large hole in the water as it runs so i think faster speeds are possible with a smaller case as a xr or speedmaster for sure.hope this answer's part of your question thanks keys dave:rolleyes:

[dez nuts]

will try to post some pic's will have to figure out how to do it i am not very computer savy as you can tell,like my sentence's running on and on never claimed to be a rockett scienctist.:D :D :Ddon;t even know how to fix my avatar

[Pete Budka]

Congrats!! You are a River Rocket scientist. :) What kind of distance did it take to get to the top end speed?..... an estimate would be fine.

[jmg944t]

can't really answer that completely i feel they are pretty safe even at 130plus depending on conditions and setup my boat 133.5 with the 14.5x 34 felt very stable and solid but when i put the 15x34 on it did not i think it is up to the driver of each rig the more familer you are with you rig and setup the more sequre you feel and no what to expect from you boat but to answer that question i don't really know i do think 135 is probally pushing the limit of a stock sportmaster that is a very large case and is blowing a very large hole in the water as it runs so i think faster speeds are possible with a smaller case as a xr or speedmaster for sure.hope this answer's part of your question thanks keys dave:rolleyes:

So in terms of getting through the air there is no problem, just interaction with the water concerns. That is good to hear. I only ask because at those speeds the air has a large ablility to influence things. An old 5.0 mustang for example is fine at 120, over 135 and it feels like steering won't make the car turn! Thanks for the replies!

Are you going to try an SM case, XR, or quit while your ahead?

[dez nuts]

i don't think i will ever quite til i am dead this is a sport i have loved my entire life since i was 8yrs old and got my first boat it had ours but i tried to out row my older brother and it just kept going from there but for the sportmaster i think i am probally done unless someone goes faster than 135 with a stock sportmaster then maybe but i don;t think i am done trying to go faster by any means will have to look into my options i guess a speedmaster will be the way to go so i will probally start looking for one pretty soon will see what plays out, for now i am happy with what i have and will relax and just enjoy the boat for a little while will see what happens i never sit idle for long so who knows whats next thats the fun of it for me i am always changing things to see what works better half the fun in these boats are working on them and dialing them in to me it's not as easy as some people think to just bolt the motor on and go that fast well enough already thanks again to everyone for the kind words it;s a welcome change from all the hater's out there.keys dave pic's of rig coming soon

[Instigator]

am curoius to your comments in regards to gear cases.
The Speedy I understand but the XR???
You're surfacing the case anyway.
Is your concearn the extra planing surface on the bottom of the Sporty compared to the XR??
Also, I know you feel you're at the limit as to safety with the Sporty but wondering if you and the Diamond boys have discussed gear ratios for the Sporty?? 1.75's for example.
You're spot on at your RPM vs power peak for a 34 but am wondering what if??
1.75's X 34" X 8300 = 138 @ 10% slip
Be dropping 400 R's butu maybe put you more solidly into your torque curve??

I'm sure you're where you're at with much guidence from the "WIZARDS" @ Diamond (and am sure they've already figured all this out) but I am just now exploring alternate gear ratios for my next project and am qurious??

Thanks Dave

[dez nuts]

there has been countless discussions on gearing on here i for one have tried them all and found that on a 2.5 powerhead i and several of the guys i know that run very well have all lost speed and drivablity of the boat with the 175 sportmaster i don;t think the 2.5's like this much reduction but i don't want to say that for everyone but that is my opinon and what i have seen just changing the prop down in pitch does not compesate for that much reduction in my eye's hope this answer's your question. keys dave:rolleyes:

[Frank Molé]

i don't think i will ever quite til i am dead this is a sport i have loved my entire life since i was 8yrs old and got my first boat it had ours but i tried to out row my older brother and it just kept going from there but for the sportmaster i think i am probally done unless someone goes faster than 135 with a stock sportmaster then maybe but i don;t think i am done trying to go faster by any means will have to look into my options i guess a speedmaster will be the way to go so i will probally start looking for one pretty soon will see what plays out, for now i am happy with what i have and will relax and just enjoy the boat for a little while will see what happens i never sit idle for long so who knows whats next thats the fun of it for me i am always changing things to see what works better half the fun in these boats are working on them and dialing them in to me it's not as easy as some people think to just bolt the motor on and go that fast well enough already thanks again to everyone for the kind words it;s a welcome change from all the hater's out there.keys dave pic's of rig coming soon
hay dave nice pass:D marty has a speedmaster with adaptor plate:eek: just in case you were woundering:cool: :cool: frank:D

[Corona Mike]

Dave, I'm not sure about the STV's but on the "V" bottom boats the XR cases using the 1.78 gear turned the prop the same RPM as the 200-case with the 1:87 gear. The boat was easier to drive also--less over-all drag. There again I'm not sure about on the STV's but there was abote 3-4 mph. difference. The case is a bit weak is the only problem. Michael Dixon had one the 1st time they came to the St.Johns that he also ran on the white boat. He could tell you the mph. difference in one and a sportsmaster. Great Pass Man! Be Carefull, Mike T.

[Instigator]

there has been countless discussions on gearing on here i for one have tried them all and found that on a 2.5 powerhead i and several of the guys i know that run very well have all lost speed and drivablity of the boat with the 175 sportmaster i don;t think the 2.5's like this much reduction but i don't want to say that for everyone but that is my opinon and what i have seen just changing the prop down in pitch does not compesate for that much reduction in my eye's hope this answer's your question. keys dave:rolleyes:
sayin based on the limited torque of a 2.5.
I spent some time with the peop calculator to show any gains (on paper) and it all went against evrything that we know the 2.5 to be which is high RPM HP not torque.
Food for thought regardless.

[stvhelm]

Wow Dave thats cookin, congrats.

Chuck(beer30) we got work to do;)

And for the few a few pages back who were curious about my speed with the euro....
the best Ive seen on my garmin gps was 128. I did have a reading of 130 on my gps livorsi gauge but since the garmin didnt show it I never really wanted to believe it. I had 2 gps's to make sure it was legit. before I really ever had the cold weather I broke that prop and never really got another one to run as good. so 125-127 was about what it ran on good days. 122 with 2 people. Those speeds really tear things up and my wife had about enough of me messing with it so I had to end it before it ended me. I also had 3 kids in 3 years so it was the right thing to do.
I will be back. its in my blood.......;)

[rock]

Congratulations Dave. That is damn impressive. Try to find an XR6 with 1.75 gears. Be careful.
Rock

[PARKER RABE]

I Think A Speedy Is An Easy Bolt On 10 Mph , Thats What We All Figured Out ...

[87allison]

Dave, I don't know you but I don't want to see you or anyone get hurt or killed. I have had two friends get hurt and mess their boats up running xr-6 lower units during top end speed. We still use them sometimes to drag race 1/4 mile but I wouldn't run the top end speeds like you are with them they will explode. Congraulation of what you have accomplished so far.
Randy

[PARKER RABE]

Plus The Skegs Alaways Break On Them

[PARKER RABE]

I Scrap The Xr6 And Go Right To The Speedy:)

[87allison]

I totally agree with you.

[dez nuts]

i have talked to a few people that know alot about these case's and i think i will not try one if i do anymore i will go with a speedmaster setup. a guy from ft lauderdale blewover a few years back running a xr6 when the skeg broke and i know these are week case's anyway to handle the kind of power we are putting out so for safty sake i think i will pass on the xr case for sure,blowover bob is the guy i was refering to and i think he went over at around the 125 or 130 mark and i don't think i would like that to much.keys dave:D

[87allison]

did you get the pics on the pm I sent you?

[dez nuts]

yes i got them thanks keys dave:confused:

[tunnelmike]

I have one to swap to SSM gearcase. I think you saw it in Palatka. Need to move. willing to trade. Great # there Dave. Hope to see more of you next River Ranch trip. I still havent found the dates for the lake bash here.Check out Riverratrob.com. Unless we pick a destination and all meet there. Destin is nice in the summer ! Mike

[rock]

I did not know the XR6 case had issues. I suggested it because my mod vp ran quite a bit better with the XR6 than with a large case. I was not running in the 135 range but it seemed to work well into the mid 120's. The boat also handled much better with the small case. Now that I have been educated I doubt I will use them again on anything fast. Also, not that I am questioning your opinions but why do they break? Is it not built as well or is it just not designed to handle the power and speed therefore prone to failure?
Rock

[Corona Mike]

I hadn't heard about the skeg issues either. The problem we had with them was they are very thin and, if you don't pin the carrier it will move and cause the case to crack on the top side at the back. I'm the same #1) we wern't running 130++ we ran in the high teens/low twenties. #2) We were running 2.4's verses 2.5's not neer the torque. The problem with the speedmasters, from what Dennis V. said, wasn't the running fast, it was the slowing down where the boat got a bit "different":eek: Whatever you try dave thats just plain F/N FAST!!!

[dez nuts]

the xr case's are very narrow and they are very thin walled in comparision to a sportmaster or even a 200case for that matter and they are alot weaker i have seen the skegs break on them alot and have heard of the whole case breaking off above the bullet infact a guy sent me a picture of one that the whole case broke off above the bullet and if that happened going 120 you would be done i have decided not to run 1 after seeing and hearing the nitemare's with these case's even though i know they are 4 to 7 mph faster it;s just not worth it to me. keys dave

[Tom Foley]

A very prudent decision !

[PaulR]

Have you considered trying a CLE? CLE's are a bit smaller than a Sportmaster...might be worth 1-2 mph and safer than a XR6.

What hull is your boat? Ski or Mod-VP?

I have a heavy 4-seater Rocket and all I can get out of it is 106. I did get 113 once....so it looks like I have alot of work to do! LOL!

Nice job!!

If you e-mail me your Pictures I can post them for you...I'd also like to see your set up!

[dez nuts]

i have a standard layup riverrocket nothing special just have it balanced right and setup perfect this boat will run good with anything on it yours will to just not setup right. this is the 3rd rocket i have had that went 130plus and yours would to with the right setup and power.don't know what your running for power but you should be going faster than that with a good 2.5 200 if setup right send me a pm with your info and i will see what i can tell you to help if your interested thanks keys dave:rolleyes:

[Instigator]

[QUOTE=dez nuts end me a pm with your info and i will see what i can tell you to help if your interested thanks keys dave:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
is willing to help all/any that are interested??
Welcome to Fla!
flat freagin amazing.
Gary

[Raceman]

I've run CLE, Sportmaster, and Steckbauer XR6 on an STV. First of all, I don't think an XR6 is 4 to 7 faster, MAYBE 2 at best. Also, I don't think a CLE is a reasonable alternative at the speeds we're talking here either. In my opinion, the Sportmaster is the only choice unless you're going to a Speedmaster, but I don't think you're gonna find the 10 MPH there either. No question the Speedmaster is easier to drive with less torque (almost zero actually) and safer but bolting in on and finding 10 ain't likely to happen unless you've reached the limit of the Sporty or the blade with your setup.

Here's my top secret hint: Many people in the past have said that the engines need to scream for the boats to run good................. that's BS. Lay the pitch to it, especially with the Speedmaster. If the drag will pull it, I'd think your mod280 would too. My boat had a 23 on the IV Speedmaster when Chris ran the 134 and change (he's always thought it had more speed that day if the batteries weren't almost dead and it surgin' at top end) and I'd have put more pitch on it if I'd had it. Somebody convinced Hank to buy a 19 and try it on his and he lost about 6 or 7 MPH if my memory serves.

I'm still awfully impressed with the 135 with a big gearcase. I'm bettin' there's a lot more there. Just hope y'all are super careful.

[jeff dunn]

The xr6 case is fine for a drag yamaha prop, this blade design doesnt seem to stress the lower unit as bad as a chopper, or cleaver style prop, I exploded a xr6 at 128 mph with a 30 cleaver, and lost a boat at the same time back in 1998. Word of advice, always check skeg for cracks before you run , no matter what kind of lowerunit you run. Jeff

[rock]

Man that is sure good info to have. I did lose a bearing carrier but since it was pegged I assumed it was weak because of that. Never cracked the case however. Whatever ya run Dave, be careful. My hat is off to ya.
Rock

[TD]

the xr case's are very narrow and they are very thin walled in comparision to a sportmaster or even a 200case for that matter and they are alot weaker i have seen the skegs break on them alot and have heard of the whole case breaking off above the bullet infact a guy sent me a picture of one that the whole case broke off above the bullet and if that happened going 120 you would be done i have decided not to run 1 after seeing and hearing the nitemare's with these case's even though i know they are 4 to 7 mph faster it;s just not worth it to me. keys dave

Post that pic if you would. The only issue I have had running one on my Hydro is exploding when I hit the power. Other than that for a mild mannered high speeed boat they have been fine for me.

[dez nuts]

the guy we know here in fla used to run a sportmaster at 127.5 and switched to a xr steckbuarer and went to 132.5 and loved it it handeled much better that the spoety but after a short time of running it he lost the skeg i think or the case broke don;t remember witch but he blewover and about killed himself so there is about 5mph in the case maybe not just the case but also the gear change anyway that is what we have seen but i am still not going to try one will keep looking for a speedmaster for the future.keys dave

[Fish]

i have a standard layup riverrocket nothing special just have it balanced right and setup perfect this boat will run good with anything on it yours will to just not setup right. this is the 3rd rocket i have had that went 130plus and yours would to with the right setup and power.don't know what your running for power but you should be going faster than that with a good 2.5 200 if setup right send me a pm with your info and i will see what i can tell you to help if your interested thanks keys dave:rolleyes:

A lot of people underestimate how much performance is there in proper set up (including prop). If I remeber correctly, you got the lightning stv copy over 130 also. You definitely got it down to a science man, congrats again.

fish

[Hot Shot Merc]

Dave did you get a new Lifline ?
Be carefull bro we would hate to lose ya.Saftey first:)

[dez nuts]

rob i have a brand new lifeline but my dumb:D ass forgot it at home so i didn't have one the other day but i do normaly have it in the boat i just have to remember to put it on that would help like they say you can't fix dumb:rolleyes:

[dez nuts]

rob what you say i bring some stuff that way in a week or 2 like powerhead and gearcase and we see what we can get out of your q shot i think that would be fun see if we can get 130plus out of that boat also i bet we can would be interesting to see the difference in hulls and handleing let me know keys dave

[Hot Shot Merc]

:eek: I would love that.That is the coolest thing anybody could ever do for somebody however between breaking up with the girlfreind and helping her get a place and move into it I dont realy think I can pull it off any time soon.I am working on a deal with somebody maybe today so it may be gone.This person will probably do it anyway.If not maybe I will take you up on that offer.I have no doubt the boat will run 130 with a Diamond 260 or 280.I am trying to be humble here.Loseing a lot this month.

When things get better I will get another T-3 Race.

Having the fastest Quarter Shot T-3 ever built would be a cool title to have though.

[PaulR]

...that's a hell of an offer!! Dave you should head up to Wisconsin this spring? It would be interesting to see if your boat would run the same speeds at 800ft elevation and in fresh water. BUT...more importantly you could HELP me set up my boat!! LOL!!

Paul

[nelsoncat]

Me TOO

[87allison]

Dave, I'm Randy Richardson the one that sent those pics. to you. You can post them if you want to on here maybe it will save someones life, who knows. Also Jeff Dunn that made the comment about wrecking his boat was the other friend of mine that I was telling you about, so thats two in South Carolina, maybe our water this just thicker :D . Just don't want too see anyone hurt. And Rob thanks for the props good doind business with you . Had no idea what you were going through, GOOD LUCK. Women can be HELL sometimes mines not the greatest right now. Hopefully those props aren't bad luck:o . Hope the best for you.

[Corona Mike]

rob what you say i bring some stuff that way in a week or 2 like powerhead and gearcase and we see what we can get out of your q shot i think that would be fun see if we can get 130plus out of that boat also i bet we can would be interesting to see the difference in hulls and handleing let me know keys dave

Dave, thats with a doubt, one of the coolest things I'v ever seen or heard of on this site! I know it makes Rob feel better about things going on--some beyond his control I'm sure--and hih getting rid of a boat he waited a LONG time to get. I'm glad I know people like you! Mike T.

[Frank Molé]

dave seems like a cool guy:D not to many left:)

[Hot Shot Merc]

Randy thanx for the kind words.I know you will like those props they rock.

[dez nuts]

just got in from a run and ran 133.7 with a 14.5 32 at 9190rpm and i think it has more was 82degrees out and i just ran out of room might wait on pulling this powerhead for one more run when it cools down will see what happens stay tuned for updates.keys dave

[PARKER RABE]

damn be careful

[dez nuts]

just put my stock 280 back on the boat warren has thrown down the challange for fastest stock 280 so it is on will be testing with the stock 280 open box and spacer plate and diamond tuner.this will be getting good are buddy and long time fastest dennis vatelo is gearing up for a comeback so this will be getting good i think he will be making so heads spin as usally will be going and testing with him soon he is getting his good powerhead on in the next couple days so it will be getting interesting to say the least stay tuned for updates keys dave:cool: ps maybe we can convince fly away aka blowover bob to reemerge from where ever he has been for so long.:cool:

[Fish]

dave, pm me when u are doin it, I got a new video camera with this written all over it.

fish

[PARKER RABE]

mabye its time to plan a top end run again :confused:

[dez nuts]

sounds like a plan your the man to do it parks we need to have 2 class'e though speedys and sporty's let me know when and where keys dave:D

[PARKER RABE]

Man O Man I Thought I Would Never Plan Another One After Hank Went Over .................hmmm.....ill Think About It , I Gotta Find The Right Location ?

[Hot Shot Merc]

sounds like a plan your the man to do it parks we need to have 2 class'e though speedys and sporty's let me know when and where keys dave:DAll the more reason to buy my Q-Shot:D

Parker:SUWANNEE RIVER..(No brainer)
It would attract more northern brothers.

[PARKER RABE]

yea but the swannee has a little current , and it makes some hard spots in the water to drive thru , i could feel my gear case walk around on me a few times in certain spots...im gonna start doing some research on it ...

[RNM018]

Parker . Just south of Rock Bluff Bridge . It's a long straight and deep channel with no eddies . There is also a ramp at the bridge for the cometitor to launch the boats so they don't have to ride very far .Also would need to be either late or early in the year ,before the water warms up and them damn fish come back in .Just my thoughts . Rich Martin 018:cool:

[dez nuts]

i know it's far for some people but most of the guys that are going to run in this are from south fla and holiday park is the best place for this there is, no current and very little side winds to deal with, or maybe behind riverranch in may where we setup the drags last nov there is a long straight away there as well and very little current so that would be a good place i think the swannie is ok but not where they did it before all the way out towards the gulf would be better it opens up down there and is plenty of room for the boats to anchor off and watch safely. we will find a place but i think hoilday park is the best place to have it.keys dave:cool:

[john4utvols]

I know alot of you guys are from flordia, But the Tenn. river at clifton is where alot of mercs records were set with Allisons by Jacos marine. The river has a long straight stretch in front of a little town park, it has a little bit of a current, and very little wind, also we have sand beaches. I have wittnessed myself a hydrostream venom run 118 in this spot during the middle of summer. Hotels are 15 minutes away and the river has very little traffic, and the police don't care how fast you go as long as your safe.

Just a thought.

[dez nuts]

Here are a few pics of the boat

[beer30]

Looks like a rocket( which it is;) ).:cool: Chuck