Post Pics of your Mercury Inline 6 Tower of Power...Please

[motoxconnection]

Hey guys, I am wanting to put a slide show together for my computer of Mercury inline 6 motors. I know there are lots of inline fans on here and wanted to ask if you would be kind enough to post some pics of your motor. It doesn't matter what year or HP it is, I want as many as possible and hopefully I can cover the sprectrum to cover all the years. Thanks guys!!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!

Rich

[MacGyverJB]

Here's one a ran on my Viper... its kinda a mix of inlines but cool looking.. A 150 Powerhead, 1250 Cowls, an exhaust snout I welded on and a Low Water Pickup Lower... Enjoy

[CALVIN]

How did the exhaust sound after the snout addition?

[MacGyverJB]

It gave it a little more crackly sound, but still nothing like the rasp of a V6 with opened exhaust. It Made a big difference with acceleration coming up onto plane though in both power and sound.

[Sunburnt]

You said old was OK.

Here are my 61 700 FGs's. Second pic is with my 64 1000

[motoxconnection]

Awesome pics guys, keep them comin......hoping for a nice collection of 1500xs photos. Keep'em comin!

Rich

[crazy horse]

Here's my 76 with the cover off and on.:D

[motoxconnection]

Crazy Horse....that is SWEEET!! Are those original decals or remakes?? Let me know. Beautiful motor!

Keep'em comin guy, this is a good start.

Rich

[Bruster]

Here's 1

<img src=http://home.comcast.net/~mercmanwon/redxs.JPG>

[motoxconnection]

Bruster, thanks for posting that. This is a compliment for you....I have had that picture as my wallpaper on my laptop for a few months. I copied it from the "everyone loves a 1500xs" thread. If you could post a few more of that motor I would appreciate it.

Are those the original decals??

Rich

[Bruster]

Bruster, thanks for posting that. This is a compliment for you....I have had that picture as my wallpaper on my laptop for a few months. I copied it from the "everyone loves a 1500xs" thread. If you could post a few more of that motor I would appreciate it.

Are those the original decals??

Rich

Thanks!

I'll see if I can find you a new wallpaper. Everything is original, the boat and motor spent it's whole life in the garage, only coming out to play a couple times a year.
Crazy's is original too. just very well kept.

[motoxconnection]

That is awesome....put some more pics of that up, it is a gem!!!

[motoxconnection]

Come on guys, I know there are more inlines on here than this. Help me out now.

Rich

[motoxconnection]

Anyone else?? I know there are more out there. Would love some late 70's (77-79) photos. Thanks.

Rich

[kiwiracer]

what about these?

[largecar91]

Here's a few.

[Bob V]

Here is a new 1973 Merc. 1500 Short Shaft. The hand holding the boat belongs to none other than Bert Serra.

[largecar91]

Here's one of the big dog inlines. 6 x 238 cfm each. I had a tunnel ram on a big block Chevy that had less carburation!

[motoxconnection]

Great pics guys, keep'em comin.

[Dart'nFart'n]

I gotta coupla pics I gotta get up here.
I love these old things, keep 'em coming guys !

[Tom Smyth]

anyone fer a 1350 shorty??can you tell which one is the before pic??

[Dart'nFart'n]

WOW ! That took some luv'in, it's BEAUTIFUL TOM !

Don't go away, I'm gonna need to pick yer brain down the road, LOL !

Bob out.

[KG4]

Here is my 76.

[largecar91]

Here's a couple more of mine. 155 horse each but from different era's.:D

[KG4]

Here's a couple more of mine. 155 horse each but from different era's.:D

Very nice,They sure dont make em like that anymore.

[PARKER RABE]

man this is a great thread

[25ss]

Just picked up some pipes for the CT15 cant wait to make some noise.
Dale!

[gotboostedvr6]

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/gotboostedvr6/DSC01441.jpg

[SS170]

Here's a couple more

[PARKER RABE]

25 ss who made those pipes ??? have u run them yet ?????

[PARKER RABE]

do they rotate?

[25ss]

Parker
I got them on ebay from Rom Hill.
He had 6 sets 4 like mine and 2 that were 6 into one.
I did not get the inner exhast plate and had to make one from a 1250 one.
Just got it put together and fired it up yesterday its sounds very cool and cant wait to run it on a boat this weekend.
They are regular mercury stacks.
I talked to Ron Hill at the Depue reunion and asked him about the angle.
He said the came from a collection of a female drag boat racer named Molly Ballou ( not shure on the spelling).
The story is with twins on the boat and very short mids (like 3 inchs) the lower pipes were dipping in the water.
So thats whats with the angles.
They are regular elbos with the supprt ribs machined off then cut near the flange and re welded.
They also removed all the spring attaching points and welded the megaphones on and polished them.
I dont now if it stand up to a maraton race but they have a sleeker differant look.
Im going to see how they look on the boat and may take them back to straght back.
Dale!

[mk30h]

Just put this engine on my 1959 16ft cedar lapstrake. Will be ready for the water tuesday if the beast fires up. I think these are the tallest 6cly mercs evermade, a good 2-3 inches higher than the 1500. They are also the sleekest, the last of the real skinny Mercs. This engine is all original, except for the power trim(which was on the boat already). Hope to run it this week with a 17p prop, but I am sure that as the boat is very light that a higher pitch will be needed.

[mk30h]

Front view of the beast. Gotta like the chrome.
A Water Harley.

[25ss]

Got the motor rigged on the challenger and took it out thursday.
It sounds really cool cant believe how loud it was in the boat!!!
Will be taking ear plugs next time.
The boat has a 1350 high ratio gear case and the motor didnt wont to come on the power band without really over triming it.
Going to try a smaller prop this week.
Got some video but dont know how to post video??
Dale!

[Bob V]

I am amazed that you were able to run it without problems form your local law enforcement. I still remember just how loud they were. I live three miles from the coast and when they ran them back in the 70's, it sounded like a dozen chain saws running wide open in my back yard. Oh...how I miss that sound. :eek:

Great picture by the way.

[largecar91]

They sure look cool Dale! Water injection would help on the bottom end but you sure wouldn't want to try it with them pointed up like that.

[Mark75H]

Got some video but dont know how to post video??
Dale!

Upload it to UTube and link it :)

[T2x]

The boat has a 1350 high ratio gear case and the motor didnt wont to come on the power band without really over triming it.
Going to try a smaller prop this week.
Dale!

Whoa.....!

Dale, nice rig, but.......

1.Those stacks need water injection and normal (straight) orientation. The lack of acceleration without water injection was so severe that some single engine tunnel hulls couldn't run any speed downwind.

2. In addition the reason that the "big inline" (90 cu.in. and larger) stacks had secondary trumpets with springs holding them on rather than welded cones was because all of the welded versions cracked under marathon racing conditions..... and quickly.

3. Your engine height (x dimension) is unrealistically low.... Typical setup for that type of boat put the propshaft anywhere from even with, to no more than 1-2" below the bottom of the boat depending on water pressure and prop bite. Running that low will create unneccesary torque transfer and pitch the boat around considerably more than racing height.

4. I've never seen a "Stacker" with a stock lower unit.... we always ran with SSM's. Part of your "lugging" issue is undoubtedly because of the oversized gearcase and monstrous prop. The SSM's had a much smaller wheel and broke loose and "super cavitated" to give you enough power to get on plane.

You have a very small boat and a later, higher torque engine so you may get some performance out of this setup, but you seem to be leaving an enormous amount of speed potential and handling on the beach.

I hope that you take these suggestions in the right context. I am trying to be helpful and mean no disrespect.

T2x

P.S. I know a little of what I speak from firsthand experience...We set this up, back in the day...... In fact it was featured on some Merc PR back then...and was George Linder's third race boat.

[PARKER RABE]

Dale We Gotta See That Video !!!!!!:)

[25ss]

T2x
I agree with everything.
I got them to put on my ct15 with the 12in mid and ssm.
I had a 1250 motor lying around just stuck them on it
I will be building a 1350 for them this winter.
I just got them and havent had time to make a 12in mid with a 1350 bolt pattern.
The Challenger has a 1250 and it was the fastest way to get to see how loud they are.
I havent got the ct fixed after the blow over but will have it done and the stacks on for Clayton!!!!!!!!!
Got the video on youtube not the greatest taken with a camera.
You can tell its not going anywhere very fast but you get some idea of the sound.
We dont have any problems with loud boats around here its a big river.
Dont know how to post a quick link to the site maybe someone can help me out.
Go to youtube search gold boat pipes.
Dale!

[Mark75H]

I just got them and havent had time to make a 12in mid with a 1350 bolt pattern.

You can buy one from Bob Shapton.

[25ss]

Ive had pretty good luck cutting them down for the biger motors.
But i do want to get one of those put a 850 on my 14ft runnabout like the terrl craft down at Mt Dora.
Dale!

[largecar91]

I Know Where There Is A Nice Parker Mid Dale!

[Sunburnt]

Here ya go Dale,

I couldn't "embed it" but click this link.. It should work..

Sounds "WILD":D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DhH3feoLXo






Jeff

[25ss]

Sunburnt
Great thanks.

[FAST RALLY SPORT]

That Sounds Nice !!

[goldeneaglemarine]

my 1957 mark 75, work in progress. have other pics but file size to big to post

[baldad45]

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/C:\Documents and Settings\Glen Hewitt\My Documents\My Pictures\2026_07_07\S6000157.JPGHere is my 1500 wraped in 1250BP covers ,converted to shortshaft on a 14 ft. Cobra.

[sho305]

I don't even have any good pics of my '73 1500, didn't have a good digital camera when I was running it. It is right here yet, but kind of dusty and all covered up. Mine has a newer front cover that is black, not the chrome one it should have.

[baldad45]

150 dressed up!http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=135094&stc=1&d=1189649716

[Triple J]

what a great video, it's well worth watching many times over thanks alot triple j

[cc1000]

Old 1000, first time out for me.

[Dave S]

Merc called for .82 jets when stock called for.78 if I can think that far back. Jet them up with stacks.:D

[Dave S]

That I built for a guy in Sc. took a 1/2 year as I am sloow. But the boat picked up 20 MPH over the stock merc 800. Now for sale as partners needs changed. Stiil has more in it to go......;)

[baldad45]

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=135485&stc=1&d=1190164835http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=135478&stc=1&d=1190164519

[Dave S]

Why is that motor so ditdy wash it off before ya post it here..... some care.:D

[Mark75H]

Why is that motor so ditdy wash it off before ya post it here..... some care.:DI guess I'll be bringing a big box of soap to VA:p

Oh, yeah ... I need the bottom end of a junk crank ... think you know where I might be able to find one?

[bridges]

stacker

[oldskier]

Scott, I was wonderin when you were gonna get in on this...gonna show any of the other treasures you got in that secret inline laboratory?

[bridges]

1250 and Twister

Note the big 2 blade Nibral prop on the 1250/g3

[oldskier]

...I have it on good authority that the G3 pictured above was in use as a garbage trailer :eek: a few years ago...

[bridges]

Bernie, you heard correct. here is the "resto" the story:

link: http://groups.msn.com/bridgesboats/63g3restoration.msnw





...I have it on good authority that the G3 pictured above was in use as a garbage trailer :eek: a few years ago...

[Slowmo]

This is a cool thread with some awesome looking motors.Thanks all.

[htower]

Heres a few in the garage 4 you.

[CUSTOM PERFORMANCE 1]

Here is one on my Allison that I run.:D

[Maple Leaf]

Here is one on my Allison that I run.:D


SICK:cheers: How fast?:thumbsup::D

[T2x]

Heres a few in the garage 4 you.


That's some Garage.......... :D

[largecar91]

HTOWER, Is that T2 in your shop the one that was overseas that was for sale a while back? The little shortie pipes look like it.

[htower]

HTOWER, Is that T2 in your shop the one that was overseas that was for sale a while back? The little shortie pipes look like it.

Yes thats the motor, had it shipped over last year. Had to put the right adapter and speedmaster on it, had a stinger gearcase. I was invited over after the motor was shipped. Had a good time with those folks, and came back with the 2TX in the photo. Found some interesting things . Shipping and customs was a bit rough, but it all worked out.

[MERC1000]

173895
How about this one, this was taken last Febuary on Black Creek near Jacksonville, Fl. That is my little brother's boat with my Dad driving. My Dad is the only person I currently know of that: 1. Bought an 1100 SS all in pieces (block, crank, pistons, rods, heads, everything) from this dude and assembled it all in his basement and we put about 3000 hours on it, 2. Changed a lower unit for the boat in the picture just because the prop he wanted was frozen on the shaft, (and gained 12 mph in the process), and 3. made this 115 run like a top from about 3 different pieces of crap found at the salvage yard! Inlines rule.

[Old fiberglass]

stacker


Question about the stacker pipes that bolt to the manifold. What is the correct color/look they had from the factory ?? Trying to figure out what the best way to go is for a resto. Do tell...

[Powercat]

http://www.opc-v.com/Boats/KIT-T2/KIT-T2.html
Rick:
Most that I have seen were unfinished, with the oil burned on them for that
blued/blackend look.. Some did get chromed, but most of the real race versions
probably were not.
Danny


Question about the stacker pipes that bolt to the manifold. What is the correct color/look they had from the factory ?? Trying to figure out what the best way to go is for a resto. Do tell...

[Maple Leaf]

Inline 6 Owners Group Click Here (http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/group.php?groupid=3)


:thumbsup: :cheers:

[chaseus]

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=473&pictureid=3590

The red trimmed 1976 1500 has about 20 hours on it now since we brought it back from the dead (about a 7 year sleep). The blue trimmed one (1973 1500, older but definitely cleaner) just got out on the water today for the first time, and pumped water really good (we put new impellers in each before running them). Since it was a first run actually in the water instead of a barrel, we ran for about ten minutes, then idled to pull the cover off. The block felt hotter than I was comfortable with. The block on the 1976 1500 does not get as hot, that is for sure. The 1973 motor had plenty of power though, and sounded and responded great.

Also, I Noticed white smoke out of the shaft exhaust too when we went to idle. My friend now thinks he had too much oil in the gas, cause I asked him how much he put in, and it was too much for the amount of gas we bought.

Could to much oil make it run warm, and start blowing smoke out of the exhaust when we went to idle. I am thinking too much oil would lead to smoke at some point, as it would probably build up.

We shut the engine down, and then started it up a half hour later in idle, and all seemed fine. Just a short run that time.

Compression still great, and everything else seems fine.





http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=473&pictureid=3589

[chaseus]

Wow my pics came out big, I need to figure out how to do the thumbnails.

Sorry about that. Newb.:rolleyes:

[Mark75H]

Wow my pics came out big, I need to figure out how to do the thumbnails.

Sorry about that. Newb.:rolleyes:

You did good. When hosted off SnF, they should be big like that.

A little extra oil, esp on the first run is actually a good idea too

[chaseus]

I guess being a new to me motor, I am overly concerned, and expecting something wrong, even if I did all the prep work.

Would to much oil make it blow white smoke out the shaft exhaust holes like that when we went to idle? It makes sense to me, but the block was hotter than what we have been seeing on the 1976 1500 motor we have been running this past couple of months now. Just by touching. I know we have great water flow, and I felt the pee stream, and it was warm for sure, so all that is doing its job. I just wish there ws a temp gauge, or a sure way to tell if it is overheating. It felt warm, but all other signs looked good. Plenty of power, good response, good warm water flow.

The motor ran really strong, though we never went WOT yet, as it was a first run. It seems to be even stronger than the 1976 motor.

You should see this 1973 motor, very very clean, with no cracking on the wires or anything. I was shocked when we went to get it. The boat is an ugly style, but we got the whole shebang for $200, and so far just did the impeller on the motor, and some carb cleaning. The steering, controls, and trim are all working excellent.

I just noticed you are in Annapolis.

I was just out that way a few days ago! I live and work just south of Chicago, but I went out to Hollywood, MD for some training with the Machinists Union that we just voted in at our job.

So, I was out there for a week, and brought the wife and kids. After the week there, we went to NYC for two days, so, last Friday, we drove right past Annapolis.

We were all in DC for a couple of weeks two years ago with my job, so the kids were much more excited about NYC this time. Of course, they liked seeing the crabs and jellyfish in the water, sine the IAM school is right on a harbor.

I have some good closeups of these motors now, and video.

And I still have the 115 HP to get working on. Another one in nice shape. :)

[Mark75H]

Which Hollywood was that? Near College Park outside DC or out in the sticks near PAX navy base?

You might have driven right past my house on MD Rt 2

[chaseus]

We were down right by PAX NAS. F18s flying around all week, pretty cool area. And we did take Rt 2 on part of our way out. Drove through a lot of that area, as we went into DC several times, and tried to take a different way each time.

Very nice areas. I may have to transfer to our hub facility in Sterling, VA (just north of DULLES airport) soon. That is where we stayed two years ago, me for about a month, my family for two weeks.

Little harder to find boating areas up on the NW side of the DC area though.

[chaseus]

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=473&pictureid=3595

Here is a better pic of the blue 1973 motor. Happy with it so far. Posted a couple of more pics in my profile. I will try to figure out the thumbs here when I get a chance.

I have three of these Inline 6 motors now. And I just started!

[Mark75H]

The DC suburbs themselves give you nothing. From Sterling (if you can afford to live there anyway) its not that much of a drive down the road for Potomac River places like Colonial Beach VA. Near PAX the Patuexent is very nice from Benedict on down.

If you like bigger water you can always trailer to the Chesapeake Bay at Sandy Point right next to the Bay Bridge, Chesapeake Beach due east of DC, Deep Creek Lake in western MD or south to Lake Anna in VA.

[chaseus]

I wouldn't be able to afford Sterling. There were some houses in Leesburg I MAY be able to afford IF my houses here sell OK.

The place we were at in Hollywood was right on the water (Placid Harbor), and I was wanting to get out there. I imagine that is all freshwater until you get right next to the ocean right?

If I am lucky, I may have the option of going to our facility in Keller, TX, just NW of FT WORTH. There are a lot of lakes in that area, with nice cheap waterfront houses too. Just need to get my third kid swimming, and we could do that.

Right now, the facility I am at is RUMORED to be closing in October. After that it will be either DC, or FTW, or the unemployment line.

In any event, we are WAY off topic. Sorry bout that.

I am going to be working on the 115 HP motor next week. So far, everything looks good on that one too, and I have the impeller kit ready for that one. The dealer here is starting to know me.

These are some fun motors on the water. I can imagine what the racing motors are like!!

[Mark75H]

I imagine that is all freshwater until you get right next to the ocean right?

No, the water goes up and down with the tide and blends ocean water with fresh water. The blended water is called "brackish". Early in the year when snow melt and spring rain is heavy, the water has much less salt. Later in August and September there is more salt, depending on how far up river you are and how much rain there has been.

Above the Sassafras River in the spring the water is essentially fresh. A winter with major snow in central PA and a lot of rain may make the salt undetectable as far south as the Bay Bridge in May. Down by PAX at the mouth of the river in the heat of the summer it will be practically like the ocean. Below the Potomac in the VA part of the bay late in the year will be really salty like the ocean.

[chaseus]

I don't want to mess with that then.

I knew there was some blending, I just figured we were far enough up the PAX that it wasn't salty. I guess anywhere the water gets pretty open it could happen.

So, is there any way to gauge the temperatures on these motors? Or would I rather not know the temp?

I do have a tach going, which is nice.

[chaseus]

Just loaded a few more pics in my album of the wiring, etc.

[KG4]

The tower of power to sweet to be sour:thumbsup:

[PARKER RABE]

................

[Trip]

Here is mine. It's an 86 90hp. Kind of small compared to some of the wild motors posted on this thread! But it pushes my 15 footer to nearly 60!

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt48/PoopdogSays/FILE0009.jpg

[Potroast]

I'm on the laptop and this is the only pic of the Magnum and the Merc. I'll get newer ones up soon.

[specboatops]

I'm on the laptop and this is the only pic of the Magnum and the Merc. I'll get newer ones up soon.

That looks sweet, love the color !!

Chris

[gstorr]

Added my 1500XS/15' Allison pics to the Inline 6 Group at http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/group.php?do=grouppictures&groupid=3

[dwiggl]

Anyone know where I can get MERC 150XS Decals???
(The pretty red onesss.......)
Thanks Don

[sho305]

Anyone know where I can get MERC 150XS Decals???
(The pretty red onesss.......)
Thanks Don
Do some searching there is a couple threads here about people making sets but was a while back. Maybe take a look in the historic section as well. Search for decals or stickers I'd guess.

[Bies]

http://i46.tinypic.com/qpgsau.jpg

[Mark75H]

That's a great pic. It belongs on the Owner's Group and on Facebook

[Dave S]

HaHaHa makes me feel young:cheers:

[Bies]

Sorry, not on face book, That is my motor, owned it since I was 12, 48 now.
Raced with Tulsa Pleasure Craft Racing Association, Dudley Malone knows the boat well.
http://i46.tinypic.com/2qar2c5.jpg

[Capt.Insane-o]

Beautiful! :cheers:

[Mark75H]

Wow and WOW!

[Bies]

Tower of Power Racing Trophy, early 60's
http://i46.tinypic.com/dy88bp.jpg

[lilabner]

Looks like a JavLyn..one of my favorite boats, and one of the prettiest.:thumbsup:

[Bies]

Yes it is, where is yours?, Do you have any info on the company that built these?

[Bies]

Inline Control
http://i47.tinypic.com/2rxy1k9.jpg

[lilabner]

I never had or saw one in person..Just loved the look..There were a few JavCats around though..They were beautiful with 70's on them..My wife flipped one in the Gold Coast around 1960..In fact it was this one..

[1972 wriedt spoiler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU_rZ0kdGXo
1972 wriedt spoiler boat. 1979 mercury inline 6.

[Mark75H]

nice​.

[bernie]

Guess I could put mine up - '73 115 short shafted with Formula 100 decal on wrap.238098 Hope the photo loads -

[eddog]

Anybody know where to get the red decals for my old in line 6 ?

[Robby321]

Some of the better pix my old XS Switzer..original Blue stripe, but did red decals to match the boat later. Have some more, but quality sucks...wish I would have taken way more pix, but to busy having fun with it!

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[Robby321]

Latest Frankenmerc crank up rebuild, on the Flatbotom now

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[Robby321]

Have more to post of others, add later..some now..

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[Robby321]

I like this one!
238318

[Mike Bruton]

I had a JavLyn just like it. It had a mark58 when I got it. Replaced it with a 650. It was a pretty fast little boat. Would love to find another one.

[Djyox]

Anybody know where to get the red decals for my old in line 6 ?

http://www.nymarine.ca/mercdeclist.html

[Robby321]

Everywhere.
Ebay, "autographics", search Merc decals. Cheapest.
NYmarine, better.
'Bruster", here s+f, best if ya want a restore to perfect.

[Skeet 2]

Tower of power guys I have 3 inline 6 blocks all in good cond. .I need some help on serial numbers . casting #s on one is the same as my T2X , 852-5264 but the others are 852-5591 and 852-6622 all have 120 -125 lbs of comp. on all cylinders .They all complete with carbs.Were they later models 852-5264 .are they 1150s ,1400s 1500s ??? Wondering which to use.

[xskid]

5264 is 1974 model, 5591 is 1975 or very early 1976, 6622 is 1978. 1974 is a 115 or 150, 1975 is a 115, 150 , 1978 is a 115 or 140, if any have a j stamp then its a 150xs. if bridge between exhaust ports are 1/8 in. then its a 150 or 140. if bridge is 1/4 in. or more, its a 115.

[xskid]

comp is not the greatest. they should be 135 to 150.

[xskid]

also 1978 could be the 90 hp. the 90 was the same as earlier 115. the 115 from 78 thru 81 had bridges between exhaust ports about 1/4 in. making the ports a little bigger than earlier one.

[Skeet 2]

Xskid Thank You very much for the info ..Skeet

[Mark75H]

Lower hp blocks will also have fewer reeds on some cylinders. You want the large port motors with 10 reed holes on both sides of the reed cage. Serial numbers don't tell you which they are, you have to look inside.

[Robby321]

comp is not the greatest. they should be 135 to 150.

I don't think I would worry that at all. Who knows the gauge, done dry or wet, blocks sitting years, electric stater test, or rope pull, etc. If over 120..(yeah a little low), I'd say as long as equal, none under 90, possible no internal issues. Just my 2 cents..

[eli]

1967 1100 ss

[Mark75H]

Very nice. I recognize the Michigan brand prop ;)

[Bob V]

Just A Day At The Park


A day sometime in July of 1976 at Anderson Park in Tarpon Springs, Fl. These boats were owned my brother and myself back then, but were previously owned by two legends. The Rabco Streaker was one of many personal boats owned by the late and great Randy Rabe's (Parker's dad) of Rabco Racing fame. The Molinari was previously owned and actively campaigned by Jack Staples (Jody's dad) under the name of Whiff 'n Puff.

Those were the days....

[Robby321]

Just A Day At The Park


A day sometime in July of 1976 at Anderson Park in Tarpon Springs, Fl. These boats were owned my brother and myself back then, but were previously owned by two legends. The Rabco Streaker was one of many personal boats owned by the late and great Randy Rabe's (Parker's dad) of Rabco Racing fame. The Molinari was previously owned and actively campaigned by Jack Staples (Jody's dad) under the name of Whiff 'n Puff.

Those were the days....

Had a XS Merc/ Switzer, "those days", and 1976, was 26 years old too. Best times my life, boating "fast", the Illinois .."Chain of Lakes!":thumbsup::D;)

[Powercat]

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very handsom

[xskid]

1974 1500xs restored. just got it done.

[xskid]

cant post pics. drag them to area, but wont attach. ???

[Tom Smyth]

thought XS's were 76-78 only?? i could be wrong...

[Robby321]

cant post pics. drag them to area, but wont attach. ???

Repost, but look above the post, see that square box, third in from the right? Click that, go to basic uploader, from computer, and then you can add a pic off your puter folder..try that..(I had a 74 too, torched a head, did a 76 XS block)..
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[Robby321]

thought XS's were 76-78 only?? i could be wrong...

Thats debatable, some know way more that me. BUT, we torched/"hole in one", a lotta blocks back then, and my 74 was a LWP gearcase. So if ya needed a new block, we did the XS on it. Its all in the serial numbers, (a "J" on the block tells all). Theres one here who would now..(Sam Chime in here!) Also, I will email my Merc Guru, the famous Dr Frankenmerc..he will know for sure.

OK, just called him about this. Told me the 74 1500, had simple "blue stripe..no XS", but the louvered cowl, but had the LWP gearcase, and all SS. If there a "J", on the block, its a XS. heres some info on it, years, serial numbers made ...

Mercury Outboard
Models 1974-76
Model Horse-power Serial Number Range Year

1974-76
Merc 45
1976
1976
Merc 1500XS

155

4319880 thru 4602011


So I believe you are right, as XS was 76, , BUT, the LWP, louvered cowl, was in 74. Look at those pix I posted mine. The one with the "rooster", is a original 74 1500, see the blue stripe? After I torched a block, did a 76 XS block on it, and added (next pic), XS decals. But ya know damn well, what ya think ya might have, probably not original, as the IL6's, been seen with many wraps, etc, but the "J" on the block, tells all..

[Mark75H]

74 shorts were some or all LWP and louvered with J blocks

[Robby321]

74 shorts were some or all LWP and louvered with J blocks

Thanks..from what I remember, my 74 was a J, just not the coming XS, decals...correct?.

[Mark75H]

Yes, the 74 shorts. I guess by 74 they weren't selling very many shorts other than to racers

[MN4V]

1974 and 1975 1500's did not come with the LWP gear case. If these motor were used in racing the owners changed to the LWP gear case in 1976 instead of buying a new motor. I know because that's what my brother did. His was a 1973 1500 with a LWP gear case. You had to do that to be competitive in the class.
Mark N

[Robby321]

Yes, the 74 shorts. I guess by 74 they weren't selling very many shorts other than to racers

Yes sir, as mine came from Bobby Switzer, hull, and he knew all the old school people back then..(like I should tell ya that).. with the old "horizontal", race rams, no tilt, just trim. Damn, who else remembers those, on old IL6's? I WISH I had took more pix, that old ride, but young and dumb...(gotta start somewhere I guess, then beat yer azz up for, "screwing up" a now..famous motor!) Damn, I LOVED that old "beast!"

[Robby321]

1974 and 1975 1500's did not come with the LWP gear case. If these motor were used in racing the owners changed to the LWP gear case in 1976 instead of buying a new motor. I know because that's what my brother did. His was a 1973 1500 with a LWP gear case. You had to do that to be competitive it the class.
Mark N

I "kinda have to disagree here", But, we KNEW Bobby Switzer back then, and I actually bought the SS17/1500, (like the first rooster pic), and all original set up, 1974, off my friend a year later. Try and tell me that aint a LWP gearcase? And thats straight out Fox Lake Harbor too, new! Again, YES, we knew people back then, so it would have to be a big deal to get us, before what sold general public.

Ya have to remember here, what some the "try this stuff, what ya think?" went to many first, trusted, then slam a zillion more "made", if many approved.."OK>>BEAST!";)

Heres a pic at (speedo then), 73. Ran a (tear up the gearcase), 14x28 2B cup prop, half out the water. And thats a original 1974 LWP case..AS FAR AS I REMEMBER/KNOW.

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[Robby321]

Also, for those wondering the LWP gearcase looks like from back then, what we are talking here, heres a pix.

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[MercNuts]

There were no low water pickup gearcases installed on any inline Mercury until 1976 except for speedmasters on twisters period and you can take that to the bank. The top J Sport racers in 1975 as in David Lee and Doug Pearl ran the standard side pickup 1500 gearcase. The time line was that the first 1974 1500 short Mercurys were standard blocks and there were no louvered cowls. during the 1974 model year the J block was introduced and the cowls went louver. All of the short 1975 1500s had louvers and J blocks and all had blue stipes. no blue stripe engines ever left the factory with a low water picup gearcase. One of the old members here won the J production at the ABPA national championship in 1975 with a Hydrostream with a 1500 and high pickups. I cannot think of his name. Either Pearl or Lee won the J sport with high pickups on the Scorpion or Leecraft. That guys are the facts. If a blue engine had low pickups it was changed out from 1976 parts and from a red engine. Pearl, Lee and several others had the best the factory offered to inline racers in 1975 and they had the high picup cases still.

[Robby321]

There were no low water pickup gearcases installed on any inline Mercury until 1976 except for speedmasters on twisters period and you can take that to the bank. The top J Sport racers in 1975 as in David Lee and Doug Pearl ran the standard side pickup 1500 gearcase. The time line was that the first 1974 1500 short Mercurys were standard blocks and there were no louvered cowls. during the 1974 model year the J block was introduced and the cowls went louver. All of the short 1975 1500s had louvers and J blocks and all had blue stipes. no blue stripe engines ever left the factory with a low water picup gearcase. One of the old members here won the J production at the ABPA national championship in 1975 with a Hydrostream with a 1500 and high pickups. I cannot think of his name. Either Pearl or Lee won the J sport with high pickups on the Scorpion or Leecraft. That guys are the facts. If a blue engine had low pickups it was changed out from 1976 parts and from a red engine. Pearl, Lee and several others had the best the factory offered to inline racers in 1975 and they had the high picup cases still.

OK, not gonna waste time on this, maybe you are right, but I know what I had, but oh well, been decades, not a big deal to me. Plus now, there are a lot of Frankenmercs around.

[xskid]

1974, 75 j blocks had std. lower,and had blue decals ,1976 thru 78 had lwp. and red decals that said xs. i have n.o.s. blue decals and n.o.s. faceplate , this baby is mint like no other. cant wait till i figure out why i cant post pics .

[xskid]

tried advice on posting pics, still wont work. tried the way i always did before, still wont work.

[xskid]

oh well, the boat its going on.

[Robby321]

1974, 75 j blocks had std. lower,and had blue decals ,1976 thru 78 had lwp. and red decals that said xs. i have n.o.s. blue decals and n.o.s. faceplate , this baby is mint like no other. cant wait till i figure out why i cant post pics .

OK, don't want to push this, on the LWP, others, but today, as asked the orig owner, still back in Illinois, long time Fox Lake party house. Any history. He called me back today. Well, we KNEW Bobby Switzer well back there, and he came into our channel on Pistakee one time, according to Glenn, with the new SS 17, forgot what Merc the back. HE WANTED ONE. So Bob said, "I will do the boat new, out the mold", but he could not sell independent, as Glenn would have to order the boat, through Fox Lake Harbor, Jim Moulis. So, after some "dealing", as Jim knew Bob well too..(as his dealer), , and Bob DAMN sure had "contacts.."Merc Marine". So Glenn orders a new Swit, SS 17, in 1974, and then, as far as he can remember, the motor was ordered off Bob. So Bob does the "Merc Moter", "what he wants on it"..what wanted, in 1974. Moulis does the rigging it, (again, as keep the "liability issue", proper, so don't get sued silly) and again damnit..HORIZANTAL TRIM ONLY Race Rams!) ANY SEEN THOSE?

Anyway, it was a blue stripe louvered wrap, SS L/U, and the prop, LIKE SAID, as in the Roost pic, etc. HAD TO BE A LWP case! But I do NOT know for sure, if it was a "J" block. Thats the only pic I have the orig "rooster", and doubt now, maybe, it was a "J" block?. And for the life of me, pretty sure those orig "Blues stripes, were not Mecr XS" But again..we "knew people, and Bob could get any Merc, offered. as a "builder". And, I got a solid 73mph out of it, on the pad, solid like ..well, like..(a solid grin on the face!) And it was no light boat either..just set up well...by "pros"..

So what I'm trying to say here, is simple. I KNOW what I had, first seen in 74, bought the boat 2 years later, from the orig owner, and he says .."did zip to it, but when the "Trigger went south..replaced". Best I can say here, is maybe some ya got the stuff we tested out first, and THEN, .."for sale"..

[Robby321]

tried advice on posting pics, still wont work. tried the way i always did before, still wont work.

Dude, showing up fine..me. Whats the weight/length?

[Old fiberglass]

I "kinda have to disagree here", But, we KNEW Bobby Switzer back then, and I actually bought the SS17/1500, (like the first rooster pic), and all original set up, 1974, off my friend a year later. Try and tell me that aint a LWP gearcase? And thats straight out Fox Lake Harbor too, new! Again, YES, we knew people back then, so it would have to be a big deal to get us, before what sold general public.

Ya have to remember here, what some the "try this stuff, what ya think?" went to many first, trusted, then slam a zillion more "made", if many approved.."OK>>BEAST!";)

Heres a pic at (speedo then), 73. Ran a (tear up the gearcase), 14x28 2B cup prop, half out the water. And thats a original 1974 LWP case..AS FAR AS I REMEMBER/KNOW.

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What speeds did you get of that setup ??

[Old fiberglass]

Anyone know the the two vs. three holes per side on the XS LWP ??? Weren't the three holers more prone to cracking ??

[SS170]

Here's a pic of my '74 SuperSport with a '74 1500 short shaft, J block,louvered cowl, and NO lwp. http://i42.tinypic.com/xmqxrp.jpg

[half fast]

Da muffler fell off

[Robby321]

What speeds did you get of that setup ??

73 mph, with two others,one neighbor GL20/200Rude, and Bob in the new GL21/235.... running along side, all speedos said 73, but before GPS of course.

[Robby321]

Da muffler fell off

DAMN, I just remembered the first time I heard a a IL6 with stacks (6 I think), but it was NOT on a boat! It was back at Oswego drag strip in Illinois. Exhibition day. On a homemade dragbike! Had to be middle 1960's. I forgot just how it was mounted, think longitudinal, on its side. DAMN,..."one fast angry BEE!" What a sound! Same day EJ Potter was there too, the "Michigan Madman", V-8 bike. And a dual rocket powered gokart. We did some weird chit back then, and a lotta fun too!

[FUJIMO]

There were no low water pickup gearcases installed on any inline Mercury until 1976 except for speedmasters on twisters period and you can take that to the bank. The top J Sport racers in 1975 as in David Lee and Doug Pearl ran the standard side pickup 1500 gearcase. The time line was that the first 1974 1500 short Mercurys were standard blocks and there were no louvered cowls. during the 1974 model year the J block was introduced and the cowls went louver. All of the short 1975 1500s had louvers and J blocks and all had blue stipes. no blue stripe engines ever left the factory with a low water picup gearcase. One of the old members here won the J production at the ABPA national championship in 1975 with a Hydrostream with a 1500 and high pickups. I cannot think of his name. Either Pearl or Lee won the J sport with high pickups on the Scorpion or Leecraft. That guys are the facts. If a blue engine had low pickups it was changed out from 1976 parts and from a red engine. Pearl, Lee and several others had the best the factory offered to inline racers in 1975 and they had the high picup cases still.

x 2...all accurate. Also, many racers simply stayed with the side water intake gearcases, because they(believe it or not)picked up water well, with a couple small rigging tricks, even at the highest installed height. They were plentiful as well. The XS gearcases were mostly beneficial to the SJ tunnel boats, not so much with a vee. In most all installs on a vee, the XS housing was actually slower, due to the lower-most holes actually aerating the slipstream to the propeller. Yes, they deleted the lower XS intake holes due to cracking...and the aerating problem I mentioned. You won't find a three-hole around these days, as they all broke.

[Robby321]

x 2...all accurate. Also, many racers simply stayed with the side water intake gearcases, because they(believe it or not)picked up water well, with a couple small rigging tricks, even at the highest installed height. They were plentiful as well. The XS gearcases were mostly beneficial to the SJ tunnel boats, not so much with a vee. In most all installs on a vee, the XS housing was actually slower, due to the lower-most holes actually aerating the slipstream to the propeller. Yes, they deleted the lower XS intake holes due to cracking...and the aerating problem I mentioned. You won't find a three-hole around these days, as they all broke.

OK, I'm gonna back up here a bit. Have some that say diff, old school Merc Gurus, but it was almost 40 years ago. On the LWP case. The dude I bought the boat from him, orig owner, does not remember much, just bought the boat, rigged off Moulis,Fox Lake Harbor. Motor wanted, from Bob S. Anyway..(DAMN, I wish I had taken more pix then!). Now that I think it, as said only had trim with those horizontal rams, and after a tuck in..(running a 14x28 2 blade, cupped, those in the boat were..told, me.."all hands on deck", until the prop grabbed, get going, go sit down. Then full tilt up. Then "rock on".

Now that I think it, well, Bobby Swit built those old SS 17's, for IL6's, as the lightest, fast motors then. Then did the GL's for the new big Rudes. But thinking my old XS, I now doubt, would have been a LWP, for the simple reason, as I ran it at about 30 degrees tilted out. There would have been a "water void", running at speed, to a LWP, at that angle. So probably hull design had water running top side the case, plus the bullet, pointing down, would drag water too the intakes, but maybe some mods on that.

I simple don't remember much, as back then, it was a simple me, 18 gallons gas, 18 beers in the cooler..go "chase down a "Bikini", get laid! (like anything has changed, right?:rolleyes: Heres some other only pix I have of it...

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[Old fiberglass]

I simple don't remember much, as back then, it was a simple me, 18 gallons gas, 18 beers in the cooler..go "chase down a "Bikini", get laid! (like anything has changed, right?:rolleyes:

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Lol, life was good back then....needs were simple.

Did your SS have the football cut out at the bottom of the transom ???

[Robby321]

Lol, life was good back then....needs were simple.

Did your SS have the football cut out at the bottom of the transom ???

Damn, I don't have one decent pic the rearend. I can't remember, but I think so.

[Tom Smyth]

this one is only a couple spark plugs short of a tower of power.....

[Robby321]

this one is only a couple spark plugs short of a tower of power.....

Now THERES a classic! I had long ago, a 13/14..(forgot now) foot some Ally, bought off a racer, that raced it with a 3CYL 70 Merc, against the 75 Stinger Rudes. He torched the motor, sold me the boat, as he was going into 19 foot Tunnels, with a IL6 Stack to race. I put a L/S, jacked up transom, 50 Merc on it, Ralph Kozin in Illinois built me the motor. I did a two seater, from the orig single chair, center steer. Got a solid 50 mph out it, good water! BUT, that 850 XS, the azz end? NEVER WOULD HAVE SOLD IT! But then again, next was he Swit/XS1500. (Still like Allisons though!)
DAMN! Stuff I NEVER should have sold, but then, ?..young and dumb! Couple pix my old Allison, back in the 70's, The second one was the way I did "Fox Lake Chain", always "prepared", some big tit witch the right seat, rear seat coolers of beer, trunk gas and oil, for the 2 strokes, and the best times in life! DAMN! I loved that boat, and bike..(Moto's summer, studded sheet metal screws tires winter! Raced at Fox/Mininelo (sp), and Lake Marie.):thumbsup:

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[Old fiberglass]

Is that a Yamaha YZ 125 or 250 on the back of the Monte ??? I bought a brand new Yamaha YZ 125 the first year they came out ~ 1974 I believe.

[Robby321]

74 Honda CR250. That famous 2 stroke, "On/Off switch motor!" A friend of mine raced them too, and he built a new pipe for it, not so "light switch motor" and did a mod the rear swing/shocks. Think orig 4 inch movement, rear..(young whips with 12 inch suspension?, this was a monster to ride, and beat ya silly!!) What he designed, was a farther rear mount, on the swing arm, taller mount the rear it, on the arm, and that gave it almost 6 inch workable. The pipe, and new suspension, REALLY helped the "ride-ability". BUT, still got my azz kicked, by a friend with a 125 Yama. Yes, a 125 74 YZ!..mean little bikes!" On the old dirtbike park, near Wilmot, WI. HEY, Illinois kids, what the hell was the name it? Anyway, he kicked my az on the Flattrack, (he hooked corners well, I spun the rear, "the on/off motor", same as on the ice...but still a grin, as all for fun anyway! But never caught me on the Moto track.
Heres a pic, ice racing it. Have more pix then, it, but I need to scan them. One I should post, but need to let the Holiday, get done with first
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[Old fiberglass]

The YZ had crappy suspension as well. Great pics of the ice racing....looks like a blast. This is a dorky picture of me with my YZ back in 1974.


Sorry for getting off topic.

[Robby321]

But that YZ had a damn good motor!

Anyway, been looking for a "Football" pic, a Swit. These came from this years "Switzercraft Reunion Regatta" at THE BIG BASIN MARINA in Channahon Illinois, hosted by Tom & April Arambasich. First a Football, (AND my rear "bowed in" transom looked the same)....other flat...

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[A164]

My 1984 merc 115hp on 16 feet Finnsport. mounted with Land & Sea jack plate. Fun toy :)248450248451

[xskid]

speaking of mx racing, done it all through the 1970s. check out my website, www.vintagemoto-xfilms.com. sorry, had to get a plug in. im working on some inlines, will post pics as soon as i get my computer fixed.

[Robby321]

speaking of mx racing, done it all through the 1970s. check out my website, www.vintagemoto-xfilms.com. sorry, had to get a plug in. im working on some inlines, will post pics as soon as i get my computer fixed.

I'll check it out next... old MXing! As we high jacked this thread enuf old MX'ers. I'll start a "Old MX'ers", in the "Other Motorsports". Need to take the old dirt/Flattracking days, old iron, to its own thread. LOTTA FUN back then! DAMN! Old IL6's, 2 stroke dirtbike monsters?!.."I love the smell of burnt 2 stroke oil, ANYTIME! "a MANS, "Cologne"..either slash on BRUT, or be a "BRUT", on the track!" Great times back then!

[Robby321]

OK, take it over there, old MXers...a link

http://www.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?245379-OK-old-school-D-B-Motocross-riders-quot-strut-yer-stuff!-quot-Pix-stories&p=2266207#post2266207

[dwiggl]

OK mx'rs. Back to 6 cylinders - where you really smell the carbon....
I've got a clean, never-been-cracked-open, '84 115. Original owner. Lost count of how many impellers it's had though....
Won't bother to post pix, as it is the ugliest of all - brown stripes....
So the compression is down. Who is the wrench that I should send it to for re-ring, etc? Know of a good mechanic in Stockton, CA but he can't seem to stay out of the slammer. Tough to find anyone out here that knows I-6's. Or should I just learn myself? I have done a 2.4 V-6 before but they are a bit more conventional..
Thanks, Don

[milkdud]

Pretty easy to re-ring a inline 6 if nothing bad is going on. I dont even use the ring compressors on the 99's. Enough room to coax the ring in with a wooden dowl. I suspend the crank with as strap and move slow.
Conrad

[milkdud]

I just re-read some of this thred. I dont know why there is reason to believe that the LWP Lower unit came out before 1976. That did not happen. I think Sam C made a typo when he said it came out earlier.

If you had a LWP Lower unit in 1974 word would have traveled fast that you had it.

BLUE MOTORS
1973 short was a standard block
1974 short started as a standard block then swithced to J block
1975 all shorts were J block
RED MOTORS
1976 Start of the RED XS J block LWP lower unit
1977 SAME
1978 SAME

DONE. Not sure why its debated. Here is a pic of my standard gearcase running propshaft near level with pad . This boat runs 75.5mph GPS with room to grow. Just ran it last week.
Conrad

[milkdud]

My 1975 1500 Short J. Completely rebuilt last year, currently running strong.
Conrad

[milkdud]

The 1965 900 Short I started with. Still have it on my fishing boat.
Conrad

[milkdud]

Most of my 6's stacked on the wall. They are all cool. From the MK 75 to the 1500.

[Old fiberglass]

Interesting view of water inlet on a Speedmaster, BP and XS1500 lower unit. It has a three hole intake.

[Old fiberglass]

Here is another one....

[Mark75H]

Awesome one and all

[MercNuts]

My 1975 1500 Short J. Completely rebuilt last year, currently running strong.
Conrad
Some people have said that the 75 model J engine is the best looking Mercury ever built. With the louvers and big blue 1500 on the top cowl it is certainly one of the best. The big blue 1500 up there was worth 5 MPH back in the day just from the intimidation factor. Seeing those big blue letters made many OMC powered boats run for the trailer.

[MercNuts]

OK mx'rs. Back to 6 cylinders - where you really smell the carbon....
I've got a clean, never-been-cracked-open, '84 115. Original owner. Lost count of how many impellers it's had though....
Won't bother to post pix, as it is the ugliest of all - brown stripes....
So the compression is down. Who is the wrench that I should send it to for re-ring, etc? Know of a good mechanic in Stockton, CA but he can't seem to stay out of the slammer. Tough to find anyone out here that knows I-6's. Or should I just learn myself? I have done a 2.4 V-6 before but they are a bit more conventional..
Thanks, Don

Jeff_G here who has not joined us recently is one of the best on inline 6 Mercurys. He has not posted recently. Hope he is okay. He is one of the few remaining pros who still likes to work on inline 6s. This is a phone number I
have for him from several years ago. I do not know if it is still current. 843 844-8739 days 9 am - 6 pm est.

[milkdud]

Thanks for the lower unit shot!

[mercboat]

I thought I would add this picture of my 150HP Mercury cutaway display motor built for Mercury's boat show booth. It started out as a 1969 125HP motor and then later modified to look like a 150HP. Photo taken at the 2009 AOMCI Tomahawk show.
I need to take it apart and clean and detail it a bit. Some bleach cleaned the black mold off the spark plug wires.



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[Mini Max]

Dick Davis's boat; I puchased the boat for the motors for a project but it is too cool as a package to break up.

[milkdud]

What performs better the Chryslers or the Mercs? What speeds do you see with each?
Very nice
Conrad

[Bies]

Don't break that rig up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Robby321]

Dick Davis's boat; I puchased the boat for the motors for a project but it is too cool as a package to break up.

I HOPE SO, our many here come and kick yer azz silly, doing that. Ya need motors, I'll find ya any ya want...leave that beast.."as is"...

[Robby321]

OK, had to shove the pix to the "Doc Frankenmerc" here me. Ask history it. His reply?'.. read on...

The driver is Dick Davis & the boat is one of his Fantasy Hydros.
The other guy leaning against the garage behind the twin Chryslers is Jeff Bowman.
I think the twin Chrysler set-up is Dick's too.
Jeff has a powercat with twin Stack-6 Mercs.
They are both great guys and have LOTS of fun with powercats, fantasy Hydros, and other go-fast goodies down in Arizona.
I've got a ton of pictures of these guys and their toys - but I can't find them. My picture filing system really sucks.
T

[Powercat]

Well I am afraid the Doc got this one wrong. The Red/White boat Dick made from a old Craig craft cat. He gutted out the
hull, and built the custom deck, which used some of a glass deck pulled from the mold he made of a Fantasy Hydro. The
rest of the deck is wood and glass fabrication, all custom work done by Dick Davis.
You can see the full build history at the link below..
http://www.powercatboat.com/Group/Ddavis/Craig/craig.html

Danny Leger


OK, had to shove the pix to the "Doc Frankenmerc" here me. Ask history it. His reply?'.. read on...

The driver is Dick Davis & the boat is one of his Fantasy Hydros.
The other guy leaning against the garage behind the twin Chryslers is Jeff Bowman.
I think the twin Chrysler set-up is Dick's too.
Jeff has a powercat with twin Stack-6 Mercs.
They are both great guys and have LOTS of fun with powercats, fantasy Hydros, and other go-fast goodies down in Arizona.
I've got a ton of pictures of these guys and their toys - but I can't find them. My picture filing system really sucks.
T

[Bies]

Wow, what a resto, and diligents. Nice two blades on the Merc.!!
Great Job My hat is off to you.

[Robby321]

Well I am afraid the Doc got this one wrong. The Red/White boat Dick made from a old Craig craft cat. He gutted out the
hull, and built the custom deck, which used some of a glass deck pulled from the mold he made of a Fantasy Hydro. The
rest of the deck is wood and glass fabrication, all custom work done by Dick Davis.
You can see the full build history at the link below..
http://www.powercatboat.com/Group/Ddavis/Craig/craig.html

Danny Leger

I'm surprised the Doc can even sort out what he does daily with boats and motors, and keep things straight. Hell, this age thing is getting both us confused daily! Thanks the update and link. Thats one real sweet boat, and a LOT of time and dedication in it!

[wired247]

Motors not quite back together yet but withing the week. Heres the motor sitting on the back.

1973 vintage 1500 on a 1981 Checkmate enticer

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg822/scaled.php?server=822&filename=cimg1745v.jpg&res=landing

[eli]

went to norway thursday

[1100ss]

1966 110 with a 15" shaft.256744

[Robby321]

1966 110 with a 15" shaft.256744

Thats a sharp looking boat! And the merc of course!

[peter1708]

1961 800 FGS; boat I'm building. Time to fair, sand, stain and varnish. Then gauges, fuel tank and other systems.

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[Old fiberglass]

1961 800 FGS; boat I'm building. Time to fair, sand, stain and varnish. Then gauges, fuel tank and other systems.

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Looks like a super slick build !!

[peter1708]

Looks like a super slick build !!

Thanks! I foresee many hours of sanding ahead of me. Seeing the motor on provides great inspiration to git 'er done.

Pete

[milkdud]

Very nice Pete!

[Robby321]

I forgot where I got this pic..Fiberglassics I think. Damn, this motor and related is gorgeous!

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[RogerH]

Robbie321, Here's a picture of this motor at Clayton. It's a Merc1000, on a Quincy repro mid - everything polished - no chrome anywhere. It is on a TerrilCraft - a DeSilva copy by Wade Terril. Towing the boat to events was tough on the transom. This was my first ride in V&H. The rig is now owned by Jim Bedette in Canandaigua NY.

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[Robby321]

Robbie321, Here's a picture of this motor at Clayton. It's a Merc1000, on a Quincy repro mid - everything polished - no chrome anywhere. It is on a TerrilCraft - a DeSilva copy by Wade Terril. Towing the boat to events was tough on the transom. This was my first ride in V&H. The rig is now owned by Jim Bedette in Canandaigua NY.

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Damn! Thats cool! And I'm old midwest Illinois boy, 44 years before moving west coast. And been to "Centralia" too! As "Paul Harvey" would say..."and now you know the rest of the story!
;):D:thumbsup:...thx that info:thumbsup:

[2us70]

What class would that rig fall into? The boat looks like an F Runabout but the motor is too big? I love it!

[RogerH]

2us70, You are correct - F Runabout. The boat was raced by Pete DeLackner on the West Coast and later in the Texas area, where he now lives. I believe it ran a 650 4-cylinder on a Parker Mid in the day. It may have been an 850 - not sure. Yes, the motor is too big (if that is possible - lol).
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What class would that rig fall into? The boat looks like an F Runabout but the motor is too big? I love it!

[RogerH]

Not sure if I've posted the twins here. 1250 Super BP's on Miss Diablo III. Will post updated picture when the two stacker kits get installed - shortly! Should run at Clayton in August with the kits installed if everything goes to plan.

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[Tom Smyth]

those are 1350 powerheads??

[Bob V]

Not sure if I've posted the twins here. 1250 Super BP's on Miss Diablo III. Will post updated picture when the two stacker kits get installed - shortly! Should run at Clayton in August with the kits installed if everything goes to plan.

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Just curious as to why one powerhead is accented in red and the other in blue :confused:

[PARKER RABE]

cant wait to hear that rig with stacks

[3rd Gen]

LOVE THE INLINE'S :thumbsup:

[T2x]

LOVE THE INLINE'S :thumbsup:

Where is that boat? and why dont you bring it to Vintage events?

[RogerH]

Bob V, Did the color thing to stimulate questions about why it was done. The red was easy.......Red=Right motor. The Left got complicated......Lemon = Left...nope, no good.....so went with Blue...didn't have any Green. In other words, there is no good reason for the red and blue accents



Just curious as to why one powerhead is accented in red and the other in blue :confused:

[RogerH]

I 2nd that question!! This is the 1st Seebold vintage boat I know of....bring it on! I notice the Mass. plates...we'll be in Clayton NY in August.


Where is that boat? and why dont you bring it to Vintage events?

[2us70]

Are there any venues where you can run the Switzer as it was intended? I saw it run at Tavares and the course is way to short for that boat. A Switzer wing needs room to fly.

[RogerH]

You are absolutely right about needing longer courses. Unfortunately the V&H courses have been shortened "to keep the speeds down" I've been told. Our run at Tavares was rather poor because we had lowered the motors (wrong!) and the rear flap delaminated. We duck-taped it for the next three heats, but basically it ran without a functioning flap. Got that fixed thanks to Charlie Wolff. The boat is still in FL and Charlie is planning on taking it to Stuart on the 16th. Motors will go back up.



Are there any venues where you can run the Switzer as it was intended? I saw it run at Tavares and the course is way to short for that boat. A Switzer wing needs room to fly.

[PARKER RABE]

great thread

[T2x]

I 2nd that question!! This is the 1st Seebold vintage boat I know of....bring it on! I notice the Mass. plates...we'll be in Clayton NY in August.
I don't think that's a Seebold... Maybe a Broughton....or a Blide.

[3rd Gen]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Where is that boat? and why dont you bring it to Vintage events? Been trying to go to the events and missed 2 runs last year! Going to The Romp in June!! I've followed the Clayton event with great interest! The boats no show Queen shes a runner on a budjet with a guy with a love for the old inline's and a respect for the guys who ran the rigs of the day! All Way to cool!

[3rd Gen]

I 2nd that question!! This is the 1st Seebold vintage boat I know of....bring it on! I notice the Mass. plates...we'll be in Clayton NY in August.I just put the T2X on over the winter shes an the pictures are actually from Sunday an 1st time running it ! WOOW big difference from my 1350 shorty I've been running the last 2 seasons ! As for the Bring it on! That's why I love this Hobby:thumbsup::reddevil::thumbsup:

[3rd Gen]

I don't think that's a Seebold... Maybe a Broughton....or a Blide. I don't have a clue! Bought it out of NH off craigslist came with a wasted 100SS was told it ran SST60 class? Name on the boat was Joe Rockburn when i got it again I dont have a clue:confused:

[Tom Smyth]

might as well stick this one out here...

[3rd Gen]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:Nice!!! Very Nice!!

[T2x]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:Nice!!! Very Nice!!


We will look for you at Clayton....please come. I promise you, it will be something you will remember and enjoy....

[T2x]

might as well stick this one out here...

Tom: Please bring that one to OFF...... Do you need a boat to put it on.... :D

[3rd Gen]

:thumbsup:
We will look for you at Clayton....please come. I promise you, it will be something you will remember and enjoy....I will make an honest attempt! Its not that far! Thank you for the invite!!! :thumbsup:

[xskid1]

nice boat 3rd gen. would love to see it run.

[Tom Smyth]

working on a way to transport the motor on a stand. no boat for it yet .

[T2x]

working on a way to transport the motor on a stand. no boat for it yet .

Oh I think we can dig up something with a transom .... :D

[milkdud]

Oh I think we can dig up something with a transom .... :D

:cheers:

[2us70]

What is going on in Stuart on the 16th?
You are absolutely right about needing longer courses. Unfortunately the V&H courses have been shortened "to keep the speeds down" I've been told. Our run at Tavares was rather poor because we had lowered the motors (wrong!) and the rear flap delaminated. We duck-taped it for the next three heats, but basically it ran without a functioning flap. Got that fixed thanks to Charlie Wolff. The boat is still in FL and Charlie is planning on taking it to Stuart on the 16th. Motors will go back up.

[Tom Smyth]

Tom: Please bring that one to OFF...... Do you need a boat to put it on.... :D

I emailed them and asked if I could display just a motor. See what they say.

[gregpro50]

Check out this video. There is an awesome Glastron Carlson CT-15 with a 1250BP stacker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUbhblD5Cw

[2us70]

The other stacker equipped boat in the video looks to be a Dutchman. Both of those boats were way faster back in the day.

[specboatops]

Check out this video. There is an awesome Glastron Carlson CT-15 with a 1250BP stacker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUbhblD5Cw

That is Dale, he goes by 25ss I think on this site.

[gregpro50]

I couldn't figure out what that other boat was. It almost looks like a Contender from a distance.

[Tom Smyth]

I emailed them and asked if I could display just a motor. See what they say.

Plan to be there in November.

[RogerH]

Tom, Clayton has a large area in the outboard pit area for display boats and motors. Hopefully this will get you thinking about putting this beauty on a hull and do some fly-by's with us.



Plan to be there in November.

[Tom Smyth]

plan to make it up there sometime, but not this year. Hoping to leave the work force in the next year or two and then I will have more time for important things.

[T2x]

I emailed them and asked if I could display just a motor. See what they say.

You can display it under one of our tents.....

[RogerH]

Tom,
Just a thought. I owned a F-runabout that had a stacked in-line on it that is available. This is a beautiful boat, in excellent condition, on a good trailer, and would make a good "display case" for you stacker motor. My good friend Jim Bedette bought the entire rig as he wanted the motor. He would like to sell the boat and trailer. Let me know if you might have any interest and I'll send you Jim's contact information. BTW, He's in Canandaigua NY, so it could be at Clayton easily.

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Plan to be there in November.

[Tom Smyth]

Appreciate the lead. If I hang onto this engine, I will be looking for a period correct boat for it. Not really interested in the runabout....... But thanks !!!

[3rd Gen]

Check out this video. There is an awesome Glastron Carlson CT-15 with a 1250BP stacker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUbhblD5CwLove the video!! Great Thread!

[2us70]

That boat would look and run great with a period correct F motor. Are there any of those motors out there and if so are they worth several times the cost of the boat?
Tom,
Just a thought. I owned a F-runabout that had a stacked in-line on it that is available. This is a beautiful boat, in excellent condition, on a good trailer, and would make a good "display case" for you stacker motor. My good friend Jim Bedette bought the entire rig as he wanted the motor. He would like to sell the boat and trailer. Let me know if you might have any interest and I'll send you Jim's contact information. BTW, He's in Canandaigua NY, so it could be at Clayton easily.

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[T2x]

The challenge here is..... to be period correct..... that motor needs to be on a Switzer Shooting star or an original open cockpit wooden Molinari or Shultz..... Methinks you will have to go with the Switzer as examples of the other two are probably long deceased.

[willabee]

The challenge here is..... to be period correct..... that motor needs to be on a Switzer Shooting star or an original open cockpit wooden Molinari or Shultz..... Methinks you will have to go with the Switzer as examples of the other two are probably long deceased.

I couldn't agree with you more. Ever since that motor was brought back to life and you guys have been talking about a hull to bolt it to, my mind has always said "Shooting Star". :thumbsup:

Wouldn't that be something if Tom and 53w could work out a deal!

[RogerH]

Tom S., Just to show you we really want to help get a boat in front of that beautiful motor, here's a couple of examples. The Switzer is probably not for sale, but is in the NY area. The Schultz is in Michigan and is for sale. Pictures are bad, as it is stored in a trailer.

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[stephenspann27]

I'll be posting some pics within the next two days. My parents bought a '77 Chrysler funster around 1980. It had a 105 Chrysler on it. The Chrysler outboard was completely worn out by the late 90s. My dad bought a deck boat that had a 1978 140 Hp mercury on it. He put that motor on the funster. The boat sat a long time without much use. My Sr. year of high school (2003) I brought the boat out of mothballs. Cleaned the carbs and got it running. I went to college and the boat sat again. A freind of my dad's who had learned to ski behind the funster when he was a teen bought the funster from my dad. After using it for a few years he gave it back to my dad. I brought the funster down to Katy, tx a couple years ago (my parents live in N.E. Texas). The transom on the funster has had it.. and the floor is rotten. Rather than restoring the funster, I bought a 1998 Sunbird 19' Fish and Ski with no engine. I'll be mounting the '78 Tower of power onto it. I'm pulling the engine off the funster tomorrow, I'll post pics.

[2us70]

That Schultz is period correct for your stacker. The Switzer should have the Merc 1000 that is on it or maybe a 800 DR.

[T2x]

That Schultz is period correct for your stacker. The Switzer should have the Merc 1000 that is on it or maybe a 800 DR.
Sorry but the engine he has is a 1966 Merc 1100. That Schultz is at least 3 years newer,
and belongs with a 1969 OMC v4'

[FUJIMO]

Yup. Some just can't get that "period-correct" thing down... Some just talk more dust in the wind, than anything...with multiple old boats that are "period-incorrect"... Tom...the beautiful restoration & display of your stacker motor would be very much appreciated, simply sitting at any event, on a quality engine stand. Oh...and the engine stand need not be period correct either, lol.

[Tom Smyth]

Well if I new where another one of these was, I might try to buy Jan's old boat from the guy out in AZ... what a combo that would make!!!!! The record setting hull with 2 110 Stackers...

OUCH $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[FUJIMO]

Well if I new where another one of these was, I might try to buy Jan's old boat from the guy out in AZ... what a combo that would make!!!!! The record setting hull with 2 110 Stackers...

OUCH $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Hey, we saw your wifes reaction to the noise "one" stacker motor makes...So something tells me this isn't in the cards...ha, ha.

[2us70]

Good call. I forgot that motor is an 1100 not a 1250. Also you are right about the Schultz. I cant recall seeing one run without a v4 omc.

[stephenspann27]

I'll be posting some pics within the next two days. My parents bought a '77 Chrysler funster around 1980. It had a 105 Chrysler on it. The Chrysler outboard was completely worn out by the late 90s. My dad bought a deck boat that had a 1978 140 Hp mercury on it. He put that motor on the funster. The boat sat a long time without much use. My Sr. year of high school (2003) I brought the boat out of mothballs. Cleaned the carbs and got it running. I went to college and the boat sat again. A freind of my dad's who had learned to ski behind the funster when he was a teen bought the funster from my dad. After using it for a few years he gave it back to my dad. I brought the funster down to Katy, tx a couple years ago (my parents live in N.E. Texas). The transom on the funster has had it.. and the floor is rotten. Rather than restoring the funster, I bought a 1998 Sunbird 19' Fish and Ski with no engine. I'll be mounting the '78 Tower of power onto it. I'm pulling the engine off the funster tomorrow, I'll post pics.

Pictures as promised. The blue boat is the Chrysler, the white boat is the sunbird. Once I get it the motor on the sunbird, it will be the 3rd hull for this motor.