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wideopen23
11-26-2006, 07:58 PM
I bought a boat with a land and sea jack plate, the wires where cut on it and I have no idea where they do or how they hook up. There are three wires, a black wire a green wire and a blue one, can someone help me out here.
THanks
Justin

SportJ-US-1
11-26-2006, 08:25 PM
Black is ground, goes the negative side of the battery. Blue (as in sky means up) goes to the up side of the trim switch or actually, you should use solenoids. Green (as in grass means down) goes to the down side. Unless there are solenoids or relays mounted on the up/down motor assembly you shouldn't try to run this with just the trim switch as they aren't designed to carry that kind of current the motor needs.

wideopen23
11-26-2006, 08:49 PM
what do the soleniods look like? I donr see any on the boat.

Astro
11-28-2006, 12:16 PM
If the wires are coming directly out of the electric motor, It would be safe to say that there aren't any present. General Auto Parts stores sell high current relays for about 10-20 bucks. Or check with local marina to get some T/T solenoids. like SportJ-US-1 said the wiring and switch for tilt and trim won't handle load. Solenoids should have at least 4 wires hooked to them, ground wire-for actuator inside, pos from switch (trigger wire) and two bigger guage wires, one from battery terminal to solenoid Positive, and positive from solenoid to motor. Easy way to tell for sure is to hook jumper cables up to batt, black lead to motor black, and bump the red clamp to either blue or green lead. if you don't hear anything clicking just motor running, then you don't have solenoids/relays in your curcuit.

YELLOWSS
11-28-2006, 07:48 PM
call cmc i had a coroded wire harness, and they sent the whole 9 yards for like 70.00.

Roy

wideopen23
11-28-2006, 09:06 PM
thanks

The Big Al
11-28-2006, 09:10 PM
call cmc i had a coroded wire harness, and they sent the whole 9 yards for like 70.00.

Roy

They did the same for me!

http://www.cook-mfg.com/

wideopen23
12-09-2006, 11:09 PM
I appreciate all this info guys, my next question is from the switch on the wheel there is a red (hot wire) a yellow and blue, these wires run to the back of the boat, then the wires from the plate are black, blue and green, I have no idea what wires go to what, can someone help me out here.
Thanks

Techno
12-10-2006, 11:25 AM
The colors don't really matter. It sounds like you need relays, your missing a part.
If your motor wires are very large then this is one seperate circuit-loop to the relays.
The other loop is your dash switch. Red is switched to your blue or yellow tiny wire and this turns on the relay. The relay is a switch itself and then completes the circuit for the motor.
Your switch is controlling a much more powerful switch for the motor, thats what relays do.

Your dash wires I assume blue to be up, it really don't matter since colors are there to help you figure circuits out and aren't set in stone for boats. But blue for blue is much easier to figure out in the future.

Your blue would go to the relay that controls the blue motor wire. Your up system.
The yellow would go to the green motor relay wire. If it runs backwards swap one of the wires or invert the dash switch.

Since none of this makes sense hopefully a picture will.
http://i11.tinypic.com/3y3ow8n.jpg

wideopen23
12-11-2006, 12:02 AM
thankyou thankyou thankyou, this is what I was looking for, I am a visual person this makes way more sense now.

pyro
12-11-2006, 12:52 AM
I have a Land & Sea jackplate, and I have the wires directly hooked to the stem switch at the helm, never had any electrial problems.

Techno
12-11-2006, 05:54 PM
It all depends on if the wires are little to little or big to little. I believe L&S plates have the relays in them. If so the wires should be small coming out. Since wideopen23 has a system that was disconnected it might not be the same as yours.

Think starter motor.

Riverratt
12-11-2006, 06:07 PM
I have a cmc that does not have any relays and never had a problem

wideopen23
12-11-2006, 11:11 PM
thats the weird thing the wires coming from the swith at the wheel are the same size as the ones coming out of the plate, I havent had a chance to look through the boxes of stuff I got with the boat but there might be some relays/soleniods in there

4174jm
12-12-2006, 04:19 PM
When I Had Mine I Used 4 Ford Solonoids Took Up Alot Of Room Though.had To Use 4 So You Could Switch Polarity