E-Tec with powervalves?

[RBT]

I seem to remember reading about a 200 HO E-Tec with powervalves and a weight of about 400 lbs
Anyone have any info?

Thanks

RT

[Sam Baker]

Don't know about the powervalves portion of your post, but here's the link to their 200 60 degree V6 which comes in at 419 pounds.

http://www.evinrude.com/en-US/Engines/Showroom/ETEC200.htm

[jphii]

I looked one over real good on the way back from Jasper. It's the Eagle block gone E Tec. I didn't see anything resembling powervalves. It's my understanding that there is room for quite a few more horsepower with programming changes.

[H2OPERF]

It doesnt have power valves in the ex ports it has a diverter in the exhaust that changes the exhaust flow in the mid section.

[JWTjr.]

there are engines in the testing stages with power valves...

JT

[MattGreen]

Rob,

A good friend of mine had one on his boat all summer (BOMB demo). He loved it, apparently the low end was even better than expected, this is in a ski application. He doesn't want the 250 ETEC back on, and he raved about that one ! Sorry, don't have any actual #'s.

Matt

[Markus]

Rob,

A good friend of mine had one on his boat all summer (BOMB demo). He loved it, apparently the low end was even better than expected, this is in a ski application. He doesn't want the 250 ETEC back on, and he raved about that one ! Sorry, don't have any actual #'s.

Matt

My understanding is that the Eagle loopers have always had good bottom-end, as they were intended for the bass boat market.

[MattGreen]

Markus,

That is true. Very ballsy. My buddy reports the ETEC is even better, although he's never had a 60 degree on this partiuclar boat from what I recall.

Matt

[RBT]

Well, the scenario is this. I have a friend with an older Allison Grandsport and he had a 200XS on it, with 110 hours it disintegrated 6mths out of warranty. Merc won't help, no codes on the computer. So needless to say he is bitter.
He is looking for a suitable alternative for the boat, he wants the boat to run at least 80, have decent punch, charging and fuel economy. I think this might do it.
Opinions?

Thanks

RT

[bullet19]

We recently sold 2 new 294 stratos boats at the dealership where I work.....
1 had the 60 deg 200, the other had an "HO" 200 which is NOTHING more than a 90 deg 200 with a lightning gearcase. (on the same boat an "HO" and a reg 200 run the same speed with the same gearcase-225's are another story:) ) Anyway the 90 deg motor pushed the boat to about 72 on the GPS with a great holeshot. The 60 deg 200 got 64 mph with a good holeshot, or 66 with a slow holeshot. Had an aweful time propping the boat. Stratos no longer offers the small 200 as an option, and Bomb is letting the customer trade up and pay the difference in price. The small motor is great on fuel though.....
On an allison, the motor will obviously act differently, but although the engine weighs less, you wont have the speed potential of the big motor. Also, the lower units on a Bomb engine arent the best in a surfacing app.
The engine runs like a strong 175.....hmmmm, a 200 -10% is 180, and 175 +10% is 192ish........:confused:
Anyway, the motor does run smooth, and is good on gas. The folks with deck boats that we have sold seem to like them
These are totally MY OPINIONS, and observations..and I hope they helped
Bryan:)

[Instigator]

('06's)is they're great motors but don't have the low/mid range even close to a 3.0 or 3.3.
Light boat, light load you'r probably O.K. but my customer up North that sold the hell out of the E-Techs sold almost all 3.3s on their boats.

[David]

I was hoping the Bomb would put a good gear case and solid mounts on the light weight 200. If they did, it would go on my SS2000.

A strong 175? It might not have more top end than my slightly modified XR4

[Instigator]

I was hoping the Bomb would put a good gear case and solid mounts on the light weight 200. If they did, it would go on my SS2000.

A strong 175? It might not have more top end than my slightly modified XR4
look at it as a "light" (for a new motor) 200. Remember it's a 2.6 liter competing against their 3.3 liter.
They are supposed to be coming out with the new Magnum XP case but been hearing that a while too.
Everything I've heard about the motor is good and that it is very strong but not compared to a motor with almost a liter on it.
From what I've seen so far though I don't think you could pry me away from a 225/250 3.3 E-tech though.
There was a guy drag racing one against 260's up north and doing very, very well with it!

[David]

What is the difference between the 1.85 and 1.86 Rude gearbox? The 200 smallblock is available with either.

If the rev limiter on the 200 is set around 6100 rpm, it would run out of revs before it goes any faster than my XR4. But mid 80's should be possible, and that might be enough for me and RBT's friend.

Even though the small block 200 lacks torque compared to the 3.3L engines, coud I assume that it would have a lot more bottom end than my XR4? 2.6L vs 2.3L (Merc math, 2.4 was only 2.3).

I spoke to a BRP factory rep last year at the Detroit boat show, and he actually recommended the 150HO for an Allison. It has the better gearbox (still probably needs a nosecone). Rude don't rate the HP of this engine. Are they being cute or does it really make more than 165? Or even more than 150.

What about solid mounts and Rudes? Do the HOs come with solid mounts? Are solid mounts available for the other engines?

[msm]

What good would power valves do on a sub 6000 rpm engine?:confused:

It's my understanding that power valves are used to broaden the torque band on a high revving engine. Since it's the nature of the e-tec DFI to be low revving, what is the point?

[Instigator]

What is the difference between the 1.85 and 1.86 Rude gearbox? The 200 smallblock is available with either.
I know some of the new fish cases are ugly ass hell!

If the rev limiter on the 200 is set around 6100 rpm, it would run out of revs before it goes any faster than my XR4. But mid 80's should be possible, and that might be enough for me and RBT's friend.
Would guess it able to pull a bigger wheel than the XR4 and should bed way better in economy and all around peformance.

Even though the small block 200 lacks torque compared to the 3.3L engines, coud I assume that it would have a lot more bottom end than my XR4? 2.6L vs 2.3L (Merc math, 2.4 was only 2.3).
My guess.

I spoke to a BRP factory rep last year at the Detroit boat show, and he actually recommended the 150HO for an Allison. It has the better gearbox (still probably needs a nosecone). Rude don't rate the HP of this engine. Are they being cute or does it really make more than 165? Or even more than 150.
Don't know about this motor. You should be able to run into the 80's w/o a cone. Your limiting issue will probably be motor height/cooling water.

What about solid mounts and Rudes? Do the HOs come with solid mounts? Are solid mounts available for the other engines?
(See inserts above)
Not to my knowledge. Only ones I've seen are for older style loopers.
On my '95 on my STV I shimmed them when I had the mid apart.
Remove the covers and lay stainless fender washers on the mounts and re-install covers which squeezes mounts tighter with addition of washers.

Miami boat show is coming up and hard tellin if e'll see anything there.
Lauderdale starts next weekend.