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Hottrucks
09-19-2006, 02:16 PM
http://www.shelterlogic.com/prod_photos.php

I'm going to buy one of there 28 footers to keep the Skater in this winter.. I want to make a bulk purchase or become a dealer for them to save me and who ever wants one a few bucks, if anybody's intrested let me know. I have seen these and they 're good quality for the $$...so far I have 2 others near me that want them.....On a side note when I enquired about becoming a dealer I asked about drop shipping and they said no problem....

Thanx
Jeff

Greg if I have to become a dealer I'll upgrade to supporting vender with ya!!

1BadAction
09-19-2006, 02:18 PM
add me to that list (you are in FL right?)

Hottrucks
09-19-2006, 02:32 PM
No I'm up in New Hampster but they'll ship it to ya dirrect....
you want the 28 or something smaller check ther website and let me know...the one I'm looking at is 28L x 12W x 11H with zipper roll up door and vents above them..comes in 2 colors tan or green with all anchor hardware......

baja200merk
09-19-2006, 02:33 PM
how much?

Hottrucks
09-19-2006, 02:34 PM
as soon as I get a price list I'll let evryone know the 28 is $900 shipped

I guess I'm looking for intrest and waiting for the dealer pricing let me know what size or model you want and I'll get ya a price. I just don't want people to say they want one then back out so everyone else misses the deal...

Jeff

1BadAction
09-19-2006, 02:35 PM
something like the 2 car portable garage with a zip door....

Hottrucks
09-19-2006, 02:57 PM
something like the 2 car portable garage with a zip door....

$1100 or the 22 x 20 x 10 high #78431 it's in the flier too....

paedbo
09-19-2006, 03:05 PM
Im interested too i need something for my 21 footer, i had actually looked over the summer for one.

It says they are in Watertown CT, which is fairly close to me also.

I need to know some prices and sizes available before i would commit.

The website just shows pictures and asks to get an inquiry. Doesnt give me any other info about the garages.

cutwater
09-19-2006, 04:04 PM
I'd be interested in getting the specs, sizes and pricing too. The web site doesn't have much info. I've been looking into them, SkelterKing, and Fred's Sheds, a local mfg here in the Saratoga, NY area.

How well do they handle snow load?

Keep me posted.....and thanks!

Hottrucks
09-19-2006, 04:11 PM
keep in mind you 21 has 2 feet of motor behind it and a trailer jack out front ....I would think a 24'er for a 21 would cover it well that the same thing with the Skater, it's a 24 but with the motors I figure the extra 4 feet will cover that and most of the trailer

Slider
09-19-2006, 04:25 PM
I have the "Shelter King Mariner 14X24X10 Round Style Instant Garage with Front and Back Doors." So far so good. It is a perfect fit for the Allison. I am happy with it.

I'm not quite sure what the difference is between Shelterlogic and Shelter King.

paedbo
09-19-2006, 04:25 PM
yes i know i had figured 25 or 26, i was just saying it was for my 21, I havent actually gotten all the measurments i need yet but if i can see specs with prices then ill go out there and see what suits my needs.

OrangeCrush
09-19-2006, 04:26 PM
Jeff my whole rig is 27' tongue to back of motor. 22'boat. i bought a 20' er and it sticks out. better to buy bigger. see you this weekend at the races. Paul

Hottrucks
09-19-2006, 05:07 PM
Shelter logic is the company that makes them for alot of other companies under other names but if you look they all use the same pics for addvertizing here's a link http://www.campingworld.com/browse/categories/index.cfm?deptID=&catID=356&subOf=8 that shows alot of models and will give you an Idea of the prices I'm hoping to pass on great savings to S&F members...I guess this should be listed under group purchase instead of general boating I was hoping to get some intrest but Ididn't think this much....I may have to become a supporting Vender for these things on the site???????


Cutwater I asked the same question ( ignore if you live south of the mason dixon line) the guy there said it would shed snow and should be cleaned of large amounts SNow ( cann't believe you made me say it) I have the same issues

For you guys down south the anchor system is good to 100 mph winds!!!!


Jeff

Hottrucks
09-20-2006, 06:55 AM
Slider I thinkthere the same company.. you can buy the vents ( gable ends there about 12" square) for them now seperate to let the heat out, I guess there cut in but there screened to keep bugs and rain out

Johnny Venomous
09-20-2006, 03:10 PM
I'm going to use Top Canopy. They have a 18ft.x40ft four sided tent for $369.00 plus shipping ($120 to me).
Check out their web site.
:D :D :D

Hottrucks
09-20-2006, 04:55 PM
how about a link???

paedbo
09-20-2006, 05:07 PM
topcanopy.com


scratch me off the list i just bought this one http://topcanopy.com/valanced-enclosed-topcanopy.php?osCsid=17ea926fdb0bc0396288682ee926538e

10 x 30 full sides, 6 oz poly for $361 to my door.

Thanks Johnny

stokernick
09-20-2006, 06:09 PM
snow loads--------you better be ready to clean them off,cuz if you don't they will collapse.I bought the metal 24x28 one for $1400 and rigged tarps around the sides,a better idea,IMHO.4Mexicans put it together in about an hour,like watching a ballet!!side note:moved it twice,fully assembled,then sold it.

Hottrucks
09-20-2006, 06:37 PM
Before anyone goes off I have seen the Shed logic one and I am going to go ahead with my purchase reguardless

I need one I can leave up in the winter which was my main goal to start if you read the Top canopy (which is what I have now and have retreaved from the trees in a tangled mess more than once before pinning it to the ground)

Footpads or Stakes/Ropes, (http://topcanopy.com/accessories/accessories.php?osCsid=17ea926fdb0bc0396288682ee926538e) please click here. (http://topcanopy.com/accessories/accessories.php?osCsid=17ea926fdb0bc0396288682ee926538e)



Provides temporary seasonal storage and protection from sun and rain.

Perfect for vehicle storage, weddings, outdoor art shows, picnic, and flea/farmers' markets.

1 3/8" or 1 5/8" outer diameter galvanized steel poles

Side Height - 6' 8

stakes and ropes are extra smaller tubes no snow load??? I'm still going with the Shed logic ones..That be said the old one I have has done a good job for what it is over the summers ( again no winters or extreme weather)

Jeff

Hottrucks
09-20-2006, 06:45 PM
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> Hmmmmmm $799
Shelter logic price 12 X 28 X 11 $899 includes shipping??? and it's 4 feet longer and has vents whatever????

stokernick
09-20-2006, 06:46 PM
Jeff,just to beat the poor dead horse to death,$ for $ the metal roof ports can also be purchased with sides and doors,my total package was $1400 with 6 ft sides,heavy duty anchors,etc,and 2nd owner reports it's survived two more winters,etc.Franchises etc are available too!

paedbo
09-20-2006, 07:00 PM
I hear ya hottrucks, mine will be anchored on two sides by an 8 foot wood fence, The only thing i have to worry about is the top.

Hottrucks
09-20-2006, 07:06 PM
Nick Ive seen a ton of what you had there on every corned around here...I just wanted something to keep the snow off winters and rain and sun in the summer... 800 is better than 1400 anytime It works for me??

Peabo under user cp you could fill in your location for all we know you live in mexico and snow isn't an issue???

OrangeCrush
09-20-2006, 07:50 PM
i mounted my coverit on 4x4s that i drilled and anchored with 4' tent spikes. after every snow storm i go out and knock the snow off . we had some wicked wind storms here that toppled trees behind it and it didnt budge. buy it for $9000.00and ill' throw in a free 22' Apache.

SUPERBASH
09-21-2006, 06:43 AM
Hey Jeff. If you can beat CoverIts dealer pricing you might just have something here. http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2285/smokincooluk4.gif (http://imageshack.us)

1BadAction
09-21-2006, 06:46 AM
i mounted my coverit on 4x4s that i drilled and anchored with 4' tent spikes. after every snow storm i go out and knock the snow off . we had some wicked wind storms here that toppled trees behind it and it didnt budge. buy it for $9000.00and ill' throw in a free 22' Apache.

thats something like what i was thinking of doing. want a cover thats gonna stand up to the 50-60mph wind gusts we get here during a bad summer storm.

Hottrucks
09-21-2006, 07:04 AM
bad I wish I had more info somewhere on ther website there was a pic of the achchors they use there these 3' long or so and screw into the ground like those things you tie you dog off to...

at100plus
09-21-2006, 08:04 AM
I might be interested in a 28 the dome roof style, second pic. I think I've seen them for around $900 retail though, so let us know if they'll be cheaper.

Hottrucks
09-21-2006, 04:45 PM
Mike the 28 I'm after has a semi round roof and is 11 feet high so it will clear the Twins ( skater engine cowls) you going to make the race saturday If you are I'll bring the flier

Jeff

y2kstang
09-22-2006, 12:43 AM
For what it is worth I bought an 12x26 Shelter Logic from PepBoys with sides and anchors for about $350 before rebate. Total cost will be about $300 after rebates come back. I hate the anchor kit though so I will be returning it and end cost will be even less about $300 probably.

http://pepboys.shoplocal.com/pepboys/default.aspx?action=detail&storeid=2314664&rapid=0&pagenumber=0&listingid=-2094490379&offerid=&ref=%2fpepboys%2fdefault.aspx%3faction%3dbrowsecategoryl2%26storeid%3d2314664%26featuredcategorydrop down%3d2%253A13338%26CatTreeID%3d507622%26SortBy%3d3

Hottrucks
09-22-2006, 05:58 AM
no sides or ends

Hottrucks
11-09-2006, 06:43 PM
I have my price list and size chart if anyone is intrested

rossi
11-09-2006, 10:13 PM
Keep them out of the direct sun, they don't like that. Set it up so it's under a tree or something like that and they will last forever. Set it up in the sun and you only get a few years, maybe less down south.

Jeff_G
11-11-2006, 09:12 AM
Not wanting to burst anyone's bubble but,
None of the poly or fabric covered units will last. I have used most as temporary storage at my shop, 2 car covers and a number of the tarp and tube deals. I have also lost a few of the covered units in summer storms. Anyone want to see my pile of bent legs and torn tarps?
In direct sunlight the fabric will not last more than 1 1/2 to 2 years. Under trees they get mildew and rot. They are for temporary storage.
The metal carports come in any length, width or height and last many years. They can be anchored on any surface. The screw in anchors you are referring to are probably mobile home anchors. The metal square tube carports also can be place ON the mobile home anchors, screwed in and therefore the carport doesn't touch the ground. No rust or corrosion.
While the metal will cost more initially, lets do the math. A 18 X 21 metal carport is $695 delivered and installed. No additional costs for the life of the carport. A fabric carport is $350 but you install it. (Also smaller). Now buy a new cover every 2 years @$200- $250 each, after 5 years what is the cost?
The metal carports can be totally enclosed, doors and windows added, workshops and secure storage areas added etc.
Just my 2 cents. I have learned from experience what I will use.

at100plus
11-12-2006, 04:34 PM
A 18 X 21 metal carport is $695 delivered and installed.

That's with no sides right just a roof?

How much is a full metal 12 x 25 with sides and a back but no front and where can I get a good price on one?

Hottrucks
11-12-2006, 07:24 PM
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A 18 X 21 metal carport is $695 delivered and installed.

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That's with no sides right just a roof?

How much is a full metal 12 x 25 with sides and a back but no front and where can I get a good price on one?

Yea what he said ...please deliver one to me I'll even build it myself.....Nick was $1400 and that was at least 3 years ago???

The Big Al
11-12-2006, 07:39 PM
Sam's Club

They have this in the stores, not just online.


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Jeff_G
11-13-2006, 09:24 AM
100 plus
Pricing would depend on your area and your dealer.

Here in South Carolina a 12X26 is $795, add $320 for the sides and $325 for the back so the total not inc tax is $1440.

You need to check your local codes for application.
If anyone wants to pick one up here in SC I would be glad to take your order.

Hottrucks
11-13-2006, 08:12 PM
Hey AL that is the exact one I have .......I loved it but it has had a hard life... If I lived down south where Snow wasn't an issue I would consider another one ( But I would take it down during High winds) I have had it about 4 long summers (from snow to snow) and the tarps are still in good shape, dirty but still good. Pipes well thats another story and the reason I'm going with the all season ones.. I feel good about the shelter logics ones ( since I can compare them) the pipes are about 3 times the size and they have a snow and wind load rating...

The shelter logic the same size runs about $400 plus shipping....but you can't even compare them...The 12 x 28 x 11 ( Big enough for the skater) is about $700 plus shipping, cheap for I figure min. 4 full years ( winter and all summer) storage with no tax $$$'s

Anyway I'm puting my first order in tommorrow and yes it's mine

Jeff

The Big Al
11-13-2006, 08:50 PM
The shelter logic the same size runs about $400 plus shipping....but you can't even compare them...The 12 x 28 x 11 ( Big enough for the skater) is about $700 plus shipping, cheap for I figure min. 4 full years ( winter and all summer)

Jeff

Thats a strong warranty. 180.00 a year if it only last 4 years.

Proubly good for 10

Al

Hottrucks
11-14-2006, 05:26 PM
I hope for 10 but I like to think worse case...I'm sure there's other factors too Mine is going to be on a pad tucked back under the trees so it will be protected from harsh winds and some of the snow but most of all the sun....
I ordered mine today I'm going to pick it up even though shipping was $90...for the 490 lbs. My rep there said that there plant is state of the art stuff and since I was so close he invited me to tour the plant......... So I guess I'm going to Ct in two weeks
Like I said from the start my old one worked fine for what it was this one is ALOT better than that one...and I can store the Skater in it all year ( winter ) If you think I would put my Skater under a piece if crap tent maybe you should rethink that.....

OrangeCrush
11-14-2006, 10:03 PM
Jeff i talked to a Marisol last FRI. I wanted to go and pick it up but she said i had tobe in the system first. she was kind of pushy so i told her i d get back to her. she said i would have to wait 2 weeks to pick it up. Paul

Hottrucks
11-15-2006, 05:22 PM
Are you getting dealer pricing??? If your not let me know and we can pick 2 up under my dealer lience ( keep in mind no tax in NH) and who is Marisol ( I think I met her at the Big E) they told me two weeks also.......

What size are you getting???

OrangeCrush
11-15-2006, 08:30 PM
Jeff Marisol was the sales rep who called me when i asked for a quote on line. i was looking for a 12x30, she said they had a 12x28 for $799.99 picked up in Watertown

Hottrucks
11-20-2006, 08:52 PM
Accounts all set up :)

Techno
11-24-2006, 09:02 PM
If you live where it snows under no circumstances put your boat under one of these cave ins.
I bought one and I don't care what the quality is it can fail.
We had major snow storms the very year I tried it and got over 2 feet of snow on top of this thing.
It collapsed... totally. I re-erected it and added rope across the trusses as bracing.
It collapsed again and this time I had no time to deal with the snow. Luckily it formed a snow bridge and didn't damage the boat as much as it could have.The snow supported itself and all the extra accumulation.

Even so one of the bars did contact the deck and cracked it.
The thing is they aren't designed to shed snow and it just accumulates, it don't slide off. Then the super strong skin stays intact and collapes the stucture. If the A-frames don't buckle the legs do. Or the whole thing skews sideways.
I then had to cut the cover and shovel a ton or so of snow off the boat and away from it.
If you think you can knock the snow off as needed picture a nice morning 3 am since I was called in to plow and seeing this thing a pile of snow on the ground. There was no shelter and there was no boat, just a pile of snow.

Winds.
I had tied this thing down I don't know how many times until I finally bought wood planks and drilled holes for the legs- bolted the legs to the planks. This locked the legs in place but wouldn't hold the tent in place.
Then crossed those with planks under the trailer and forced these down using the trailer.
The trailer affectively sat on the wood, which sat on the legs wood and it didn't move anymore......................then it snowed.:mad:

stokernick
11-24-2006, 09:07 PM
well,Techno,you do live in an extreme snowbelt,over 96 inches a season!!

rossi
11-24-2006, 10:09 PM
I would always push the snow off the top of mine several times when we get heavy snow then shovel it away when it slid down the sides. Two feet of snow on top of one of these is to much, especially when they start to dry rot ofter a few years. When they dry rot...forget about it.

Techno
11-25-2006, 09:15 AM
Unless your willing to stand under it during a snow storm your not going to get enough snow off it even daily to keep it up. This isn't about a yearly amount of snow but what falls in a single nite.:eek:
I don't know the snow fall last year but it was never more than an inch on the ground all year. The year I put this damned thing up we got hit big time and in a major way. The year before wasn't a big snow fall year either, I was just lucky.:(
These things are to keep some rain off the item and mostly sun. Using them for anykind of bad weather will end up damaging the item its supposed to protect.

And don't underestimate the wind. You want this thing tied down so you yourself can not move it in any direction. If you can the wind can.

Hottrucks
11-26-2006, 05:33 PM
Well I hope your wrong I just ordered 2... 12 X 28 x 11 garages one is mine and one is for another memeber who posted here ..... I hope they are as good as they say and also hope that whether there good or junk he'll jump in and in time we'll keep everyone posted......

Like I said from the start if it works for ya great if not you can build a metal, wood or concrete building for all I care... the only reason this post was started was to give anyone intrested a deal on one ( I'm not making jack sheet on these but I did save myself a bunch and so did the other person) All I can say is I looked at them and it will suit my needs.....If you think I'd park my POS Skater under it and wait for it to fall you probablly would be wrong..... and since I work for the town and have to plow till it's over all I can do is hope it stays up until I get home and clean the snow off before I go to bed ( a little common sense goes a long way)

Jeff


May be I can just store it in your garage ??????????

Ron V
11-27-2006, 09:44 AM
Well, as opposed to leaving the boat out in the weather, it offers some protection and it's no more inconvenient than a regular cover/tarp in the snow. Even with a well supported tarp, if you get a 20" snowfall you still pretty much have to go out a couple times during the storm and brush the snow off if you want to avoid problems. Not the ticket however if you leave the boat at a summer home where you can't get to it during the storm.

If the village I live in passes a "no outdoor boat storage" ordinance, I'm planning on buying one of these just to piss them off. It's a temporary structure, so I don't see what they can do about it. Hell, I'll even put orange snow fence around it to "keep the dogs from peeing on it".

rossi
11-27-2006, 09:14 PM
All in all, they do work real well, even in snow. One thing I also did was get black roofing rubber and line the entire floor of the shelter because I put mine up on grass. It kept the moisture from rising up from the ground and kept everything even drier inside.

jmg944t
11-27-2006, 10:23 PM
I hope tents don't fall down in the snow...

I have 2 30x50 frame tents and 1 40x70 going up in December:eek: A bit over $40k in equipment.

Seriously though, These are plenty strong for a mild snow load. The cheapo pep-boys $200 will collapse. With 20 years of frame tent experience in Mass/NH guiding my decision I am going to get one of these and not worry about it unless we are slated to get a blizzard. At that point I will put a small heater in it and it will shed snow nicely. One of those little ceramic ones a few feet below the top will do it. It has been my experience that a 30x50 frame will shed all of the snow on it within 5 minutes of turning on a tent heater. That tent will hold alot more snow than this will as it has a fixed pitch not a rounded top.

at100plus
11-28-2006, 05:42 AM
That's a good idea (heater) I think I'll try that this year. When we had a big snow last year I went out once in the middle of the night and brushed mine off.

I'm trying to figure out a way to insulate mine some, I have a propane rocket heater that heats my garage in minutes. I was thinking putting 2" styrofoam on the inside but they get like $20 for a 2 x 8 sheet.

What's roofing rubber? Does it come in a roll?

electricjohn
11-28-2006, 07:12 AM
100plus,
Yeah, it comes in a roll. 10 ft. wide by 100 ft long. It is quite heavy, probably 120 mils thick. It is made by Firestone, Badyear, ect. My neighbor recently purchased a piece 20 ft. wide to build a backyard pond(lake), but not sure where he got it. I'll try to find out and let you know.

jmg944t
11-28-2006, 07:29 AM
at100
The heaters work very well to make tents shed snow, it is not easy to keep a tent 70 degrees in the winter. For example I am putting 4 heaters totalling 500,000 BTU's in a 40x70 the first week in December for a night function. But for this purpose you are only trying to keep the top foot of it 35 degrees. Thats easy!

at100plus
11-28-2006, 07:54 AM
100plus,
Yeah, it comes in a roll. 10 ft. wide by 100 ft long. It is quite heavy, probably 120 mils thick. It is made by Firestone, Badyear, ect. My neighbor recently purchased a piece 20 ft. wide to build a backyard pond(lake), but not sure where he got it. I'll try to find out and let you know.

How much is a roll (12 x 20)?

at100plus
11-28-2006, 07:55 AM
at100
The heaters work very well to make tents shed snow, it is not easy to keep a tent 70 degrees in the winter. For example I am putting 4 heaters totalling 500,000 BTU's in a 40x70 the first week in December for a night function. But for this purpose you are only trying to keep the top foot of it 35 degrees. Thats easy!

My heater will take the chill off in a few minutes but if it was insulated some it would stay warm. I was thinking maybe hanging moving pads on the sides.

jmg944t
11-28-2006, 01:55 PM
Could you take off the cover and lay regular fiberglass insulation over the frame and put the cover back on carefully?

Hottrucks
11-28-2006, 06:13 PM
Could you take off the cover and lay regular fiberglass insulation over the frame and put the cover back on carefully?

After many years of putting up steel building I don't understand why I didn't think of that??? :confused:
Metal buildings are nothing more than a steel stucture covered with insolation ( what you see from the inside is the backside of it ussaully with a white plastic backer) then cover with a layer of steel siding.........

Mike I placed an order with them for 2 of the 28 long 12 wide 11 high on monday they will be ready for pick up mid week ( they are doing invintory or I could have picked them up this saturday :rolleyes: ) let me know if you intrestred....

On another note while at work today I saw one ( cover it) roadside and the guy was pulling his F 250 under it (24 X 24) I stopped to ask him about it and he said best thing since sliced bread, said he leaves his plow truck under it and when it snows he opens the door and goes when he gets back he parks the truck inside and closes the door with in 20 min the snow ( whats left ) slides right off ( heat from the truck I guess) said his has been up 3 years and it still looked good but a little dirty..........

Techno
11-28-2006, 07:05 PM
:confused: If you heat the shed to shed snow then insulate this will do what?:confused:

I only posted this as a heads up. If your determined to use these things where it can snow a whole lot overnite then check the sag zone near the side rail. Snow don't slide off the tarp and weights it down into pockets to build all the way up to the peak. Also I found it easier to knock the snow off from the inside rather than the outside.You just push the pockets up and the snow slides off. Which is refilled from above...repeat.
AS for the robustness these things don't have proper leg bracing and a large snow load will cork screw the legs and collapse it. If nothing else some kind of an alarm might be the best thing. If the tarp sags too much it wakes you up way before your structure or boat is in danger. Even then it only sags so much and thats it.

I'm in the same boat Ron V is in:D If it snows I go into work to plow. So the episode for me was less than a full nite. Wasn't even 8 hours. An alarm would have worked, it would just have taken me more time to get into work.
Some people are missing that this episode happened over nite, not a week or a month.:eek:

electricjohn
12-04-2006, 01:26 PM
A brief follow up to post #56. If you buy roofing rubber, it only comes 10 ft wide. I checked the thickness of mine and it was 60 mils, not 120 as stated in my earlier post. Talked to my neighbor who has the pond in his yard and he said he got his 20 ft wide piece from a place called "Just Liners". Try justliners.com. He told me his is 45 mils thick and cost 39 cents a sq. ft.

1BadAction
12-04-2006, 01:29 PM
whats snow?

:p

electricjohn
12-04-2006, 03:09 PM
whats snow?

:pSolid humidity

rossi
12-04-2006, 05:31 PM
What would worry me about the heater inside is melting the snow then having it slide down the side then refreezing later. They handle snow good but ice is destructive.

jmg944t
12-10-2006, 07:01 PM
Jeff,
If you are going to insulate the canopy and need a way to get the top on without disturbing the insulation let me know. I have a method that will get the top on that thing without disturning the insulation in a minute or two.

Hottrucks
12-10-2006, 07:13 PM
Well If it's any consolation I put mine up today......
first off I will be calling them to tell them to make ther instuctiuons BETTER???? It wiould have saved me time if they where better...

second seperate all your parts by # and lay them out it will save more time...

third a cordless drill is kick asss at tighting bolts on this thing

fourth build the frame before your buddys get there then have them come help lift the last set of legs and put the cover on ( you'll be done in 45 min

I would say my total time from opening the box to backing in the Skater was from 11 am to 4 pm ( about 5 hours)

I'm going to call this thing built on Xmas 06 it will make it easy to measure time on it... I will say I am happy with what it is ( but its alot bigger than I thought it was going to be??) If I was in Fla I would want one lower maybe the 10 footer instead of the 12

My guess is 5 years with no problems baring anything (Trees) falling on it...

at100plus
12-10-2006, 07:51 PM
My landscaper backed into mine with a leaf blower twice, melted two nice holes in mine.:mad:

I'm hoping to put an addition on next year.

jmg944t
12-10-2006, 07:59 PM
At100, want a patch?

jmg944t
12-10-2006, 08:03 PM
Jeff,
I built one of the little cheap sheetmatel sheds... Took over 10 hours.

I can put up a 30x50 frame tent with lights, sides and heat in 25 degree weather (last friday) in 1 1/2 hourswith 2 other guys.:p

at100plus
12-10-2006, 08:46 PM
Yea, where do i get a patch? I got the ole duct tape out. I was going to go say something to the landscaper but I didn't want to be a jerk, then sure enough he did it again that day! Oblivious.

I think I'm going to get one of those metal shelters next year.

rossi
12-10-2006, 09:11 PM
If a patch is unavailable to you Mike, You could also use Tyvek tape, the stuff they use to hold tyvek on the side of houses, etc. I have a ton of it all over mine and it works great. Ducttape dissinagrates and peels quickly. The tyvek tape can also patch larger rips and holes to. If ya ever want some and can't find it...let me know !

at100plus
12-10-2006, 09:54 PM
I guess a building supply would have it right? I'll check into it thanks.

jmg944t
12-10-2006, 10:07 PM
At100,
Tell me how big the holes are and your address and I will send you proper tent patches. I have mostly white but I may have your color in the right size. The patches are more adhesive than duct tape and have a vinyl fabric backing just like the tent itself.

Or if you want a repair that will last the life of the top I can send you some tent material and you can contact cement it in place. Either one would be essentially permanent.

at100plus
12-11-2006, 06:28 PM
I appreciate the offer, but you don't have to, I'm probably going to do something different soon.

Thank You.

Hottrucks
03-26-2007, 03:15 PM
I'll bring this back around only because a few people have called me on it

It's been 1 winter and i can say I'm very happy the biggest snow we had was a little over 30" and it shed every inch of it..as far as wind we had some storms blow through at over 30 mph and it never moved .......I'll wait and report back if anything happens this spring!!!!!!!

Jeff

j_martin
03-26-2007, 03:41 PM
I bought my 24 footer at Menards for about 350 bucks. It seems to do allright for the money. Condensation and dripping is a problem, but would be in any unheated building.

OrangeCrush
03-27-2007, 07:47 PM
Jeff Mine worked great not one problem. Thanks again Paul B

Hottrucks
03-28-2007, 02:53 PM
No poroblem Paul I will say that I think my boat was attacked by dust bunnies I'guess I'll have to was and wax it DAM!!

Hottrucks
01-01-2008, 08:31 AM
I'll bring this around for all the nay sayers......
It's been a year and this was the snowyest winter in histroy ( acording to the news) the thing is Still perfect!!!!!!!! I will say I have poked the snow off it a few times..but then again the snow is now 3 feet or better up the sides...........Tic Toc.......

OrangeCrush
01-01-2008, 01:08 PM
MONEY WELL SPENT Happy New Year to all

Robby321
01-01-2008, 04:50 PM
Food for thought. I use nothing but silver tarps. Can't remember where I got them off hand, but many sizes, or custom made. Just go the Google thing.
In Puget Sound, so snow not much of a problem. Silver holds up the best. Get years out of them, and thats with power washing the spring pollen and over winter tree crap off. My van and Flat bottom are in the back under canopy's too. No room in the shop..there fulla motorcycles!
Anyway, I'm sheltered pretty well from wind with the trees, but a good windstorm coming has me simply getting out 12' ratchet tiedowns. Cross tie to the trailer sides, bumpers on the van. The big boat in front is cross tied to the trailer (blue straps..real hard to see), zero prob..and it has seen severe winds (damn power was out 3 days one time). You can make extentions with Electrical EMT pipe and connecters for height issues. Something to think about. And so far, falling branches...well, been darn lucky!. And snow will slide off by a good back and forth shake, or tap on the underside with a broom.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Robby6950/PICT0013.jpg

bskater18
01-01-2008, 09:43 PM
I made one out of 2x4's and shrink wrap. 31'x10' and 9'tall, my out of pocket was around $450. I'll post some pics tomorrow. Plenty of room and dosen't stand out too much.

jmg944t
04-15-2008, 07:52 PM
Jeff,
Whats the going rate for one just like yours to Londonderry?

How long for delivery?

I need to get some junk outside fast my season is about to start.

Is there any irony in storing a frame tent in a frame tent? I just bought a 40x70 frame tent and I just don't have room in the building to store it... The parts are 23 feet long and it weighs 3500 pounds so moving it all out of the way frequently isn't an option.:mad: