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imq707s
09-19-2006, 11:37 AM
I've run tons of props on my Vegas......Hill 5-blades, Yamaha's, choppers, Mazco's, 4-blade Shooters, 4-Blade Renagades, Rakers...and a ton of others I can't even remember (thanks AQUAhollic :D ). But it seems like no matter what props I've tested....nothing has ran as fast as my 27 SRX that has been worked over by DAH. I've ran a best of 80.0 mph GPS with that prop....and the next closest prop was a few MPH off of that. I thought that there wasn't any prop that was better for top end.

Well a few months ago I picked up a stock 25 Trophy Plus off of ebay. I ran that prop all summer and it worked great. I never really got to run it fast since every weekend I had at least 4 people and cooler(s) in the boat. I just thought it was a great "boats full of people and gear" prop.

Well I finally got to run it a few weeks ago with just me in the boat.....and it was running a few MPH faster than the SRX that I thought I would never beat.

I'm really surprised that this stock 4-blade would run a better top speed than my SRX that's been thinned, cupped, and who know's what else.....by DAH.

Anyone else find that a Trophy has got them the best top end out of any other prop? I'm sure this mostly applies to heavier boats.

WATERWINGS
09-19-2006, 01:26 PM
Trophy is the only prop that ALLOWS me to reach any speed at all.

The "right props" bounce their butts off, and I can't even get UP TO the top speeds.

And, yes, it has pushed my Quartershot faster than any other prop I have run yet.

95.9.........27 Trophy Plus........200 Merc.

(edit) I think I have some bottom problems, thats part of the reason I need a "bandaid" to get thru the bounce zone.

(the boat bottom, not my bottom)

Steven
09-19-2006, 06:56 PM
on my 19 liberator, 200 merc. i also have a 5 blade hill and it bites some better on takeoff but the trophy is faster and great midrange. it really lifts the boat out of the water and it gets scarey when alone. i have always liked them, but i dont like the holeshot when loaded. im working on that now, reducing setback and i think it will help. too much weight in the back, im hoping. it throws a tail about motor high when running around 20-30 mph, and then goes away when letting it rip. thats a good thang...right? waterwings renewed my interest after reading his good results with it.
i just bought an a45 25 pitch to try.
its not a plus, but it has the small vent holes, flo-torque hub, and also, the small barrel like the plus. i though only the plus had that small barrel, not so...

The Big Al
09-19-2006, 07:11 PM
I think a lot of people find the trophy to be fast because of it's easy handling nature.

I find them never to be the best top end prop.

But on a ill handling boat they are forgiving, so you tend to go faster.






AL

Steven
09-19-2006, 08:40 PM
a trophy will smoke a chopper on my boat. its easy to drive with any prop. the ill handling bs you have to put up with on a faster v bottom aint worth it to me.
i've had one, but i really never learned to drive it either:(
imq707, my boat weighs an even 1600 lbs with no one in it.

hotbeek
09-19-2006, 09:41 PM
I'm very happy with my trophy plus. I just ran it for the first time this weekend. Boat had excellent holeshot and better topend than any three blade I've tried. For the price you can't go wrong ! Great bang for the buck !

You're not going to see any race boats with it but, you'll see a lot of recreational racer running it for a good all around prop.

MODXR6
09-19-2006, 10:02 PM
Not on my hull. Decent fishin prop but ain't worth craap over about 70 mph.
Wasn't the best props on the last boat I had either

The Big Al
09-19-2006, 10:32 PM
I'm very happy with my trophy plus. I just ran it for the first time this weekend. Boat had excellent holeshot and better topend than any three blade I've tried. For the price you can't go wrong ! Great bang for the buck !

You're not going to see any race boats with it but, you'll see a lot of recreational racer running it for a good all around prop.

Very true in $$$$ for bang.

The Big Al
09-19-2006, 10:35 PM
Not on my hull. Decent fishin prop but ain't worth craap over about 70 mph.
Wasn't the best props on the last boat I had either

Same with my Bullet, trophy is not on the foot!

Hey, don't let it get out a Allison and Bullet owner agree! Man thats just not good!:rolleyes:

imq707s
09-20-2006, 08:41 AM
It seems like they do better on hulls that really need some bow lift.

WATERWINGS
09-20-2006, 10:19 AM
....and mine shouldn't .....but with the slight rocker, I think it does need more bow lift.

and handles MUCH better with the bow in the air.

Mr. Demeanor
09-20-2006, 10:48 PM
Even on my center console thats slow by screamandfly terms, the Trophy+ has been my fastest prop so far. Unfortunatley its bad everywhere else except top end but my setup is very different than you guys.

JWTjr.
09-21-2006, 07:01 AM
You guys have hit on an interesting point that eludes many...if a prop is the one that gives you the best results (and you consider top speed the best result), then it is the best prop for you on your boat. While there may be props that could be faster, the one that YOU can drive to the best top speed is YOUR BEST PROP! Most guys don't like to hear this, and I understand why. After all, how could a "bass boat" prop be the fastest prop they own? It's just not cool!

Trophy props (and other "bass" props like them) have come a long way since their beginnings in the early 1980s. When we test for B & WB, we find that often, the little bit of extra top speed a "race" prop gives is just not worth it when cost, handling, holeshot, cruise economy, and potential for easier blade damage are all factored in.

JT

chris_lacey
09-21-2006, 07:34 AM
The last few years, on my Hydrostream, I ran a 4 blade Predator, and only a 24P at that.
The fastest prop on that boat? Not by a long way, but in a standing start race I'd be so far ahead of the guy with the chopper it would take him 2 miles to catch up. Plus planing in a boat length, excellent handling, mid range to die for: what's not to like.

Sometimes the fastest prop isn't a "cool" prop and sometimes the BEST prop (for you and your boat) isn't the fastest prop.

Different for everybody. That's why I stopped replying to questions about V-King set up. Suggest a set up different than 8" of setback, props shaft even or higher and an over hub, and somebody will dive all over you because that isn't the fastest set up/prop.

I sold my V-King to a young guy and the first thing he wanted to do was put the 30 chopper on it. I told him to run the 24 for a while, get used to the boat. After trying both, he sold the chopper.

blkmtrfan
09-21-2006, 07:35 AM
Great post John :cool:

"Overall Performance" is what really makes driving a boat enjoyable ;)

WATERWINGS
09-21-2006, 08:26 AM
You guys have hit on an interesting point that eludes many...if a prop is the one that gives you the best results (and you consider top speed the best result), then it is the best prop for you on your boat. While there may be props that could be faster, the one that YOU can drive to the best top speed is YOUR BEST PROP! Most guys don't like to hear this, and I understand why. After all, how could a "bass boat" prop be the fastest prop they own? It's just not cool!

Trophy props (and other "bass" props like them) have come a long way since their beginnings in the early 1980s. When we test for B & WB, we find that often, the little bit of extra top speed a "race" prop gives is just not worth it when cost, handling, holeshot, cruise economy, and potential for easier blade damage are all factored in.

JT

That sums it all up......

Very well put John.

Mr.Rude
09-22-2006, 07:00 PM
I have had the fastest speeds in my boat with my 4 blade as well, tried a raker, soon to try a tempest, but nothing has beat my 27" shooter in holeshot or topend. I do not have a hiperf hull with my Stratos, but I has given me almost 5 mph over a 24 &26 raker.

The Big Al
09-22-2006, 07:24 PM
You guys have hit on an interesting point that eludes many...if a prop is the one that gives you the best results (and you consider top speed the best result), then it is the best prop for you on your boat. While there may be props that could be faster, the one that YOU can drive to the best top speed is YOUR BEST PROP! Most guys don't like to hear this, and I understand why. After all, how could a "bass boat" prop be the fastest prop they own? It's just not cool!

Trophy props (and other "bass" props like them) have come a long way since their beginnings in the early 1980s. When we test for B & WB, we find that often, the little bit of extra top speed a "race" prop gives is just not worth it when cost, handling, holeshot, cruise economy, and potential for easier blade damage are all factored in.

JT

So true, best post yet!

lpolk@pnx.com
09-29-2006, 12:08 PM
I have a 206 champion '06' Heavy Boat, ran a tempest at first then I got a 25 Trophy Plus 3.5 off pad 225 pro xs. My numbers are 70 GPS full tank tournament ready. Vrey high Numbers for that boat.

shep70057
10-01-2006, 01:29 AM
Mr. Demeanor, can you give me a little more info on your set up and your numbers with the Trophy??

hydropimp
10-25-2006, 08:01 PM
You seem to be pretty knowledgeable what would be a good prop for a eagle-one cyclone ( mirage copy) 18ft 2.4 86 merc. Wants to hop at 65 to 70 mph can't drive thru it running 27 chopper

Mr. Demeanor
10-28-2006, 01:54 PM
Mr. Demeanor, can you give me a little more info on your set up and your numbers with the Trophy??

Sorry I missed your question. I have a 23' Concept center console with a 200hp Merc mounted on a bracket with a 4" manula jackplate (lots of setback). I have a 21 Trophy Plus small tube and it ran 1-2 mph faster than the second fastest prop that was a 19 Mirage plus. It was slower at cruise and did not want to plane well though. The numbers show a 21 Mirage plus would be faster anyway and I want to try a 19 Merc Rev4. I am guessing the Rev will be similar up top as I can rasie the motor a little more yet and will be better everywhere else.
My 21 Trophy is pristine (test run only) and is for sale $325 plus shipping.

MODXR6
10-29-2006, 11:11 PM
Best to one may not be best to another with a very similar rig. As was the case of my last skeeter/xr6. best prop I could find to run "all around" & that included top end was a 24 pitch HiFive. many frowned at that but that 1450 lb hull would run a 76mph/GPS with a 150. couldn't get any trophies to run close to that & I couldn't get any others to run 6700 rpms to that speed either.

Steven
10-30-2006, 06:44 PM
damn, i think i'll try one! what diamater are they? dont they come up to a 26 or 27 pitch? thats great i would think with a 150 and a 1450 lb. boat:)

j_martin
11-02-2006, 03:44 PM
The high five comes in even pitches to 26" in 4 1/4 lower ('bout a 4 inch hub on the prop), odd pitches to 27" in 4 3/4 lower (bout 4 3/8 inch hub). The SR4 I own, and apparently this XR6 have the 4 1/4 inch lower unit. The props I need are listed at mercury for 3 or 4 cylinder motors.

I put a 24 inch high five on my 88 Tracker 19' boat and I just love it. It handles well at all speeds, is smooth as silk, and still goes fast enough to scare me. The hole shot is to die for. The boat doesn't have enough time to get the bow between yer eyes and the horizon before it's on plane.

Steven
11-03-2006, 08:21 AM
The high five comes in even pitches to 26" in 4 1/4 lower ('bout a 4 inch hub on the prop), odd pitches to 27" in 4 3/4 lower (bout 4 3/8 inch hub). The SR4 I own, and apparently this XR6 have the 4 1/4 inch lower unit. The props I need are listed at mercury for 3 or 4 cylinder motors.

I put a 24 inch high five on my 88 Tracker 19' boat and I just love it. It handles well at all speeds, is smooth as silk, and still goes fast enough to scare me. The hole shot is to die for. The boat doesn't have enough time to get the bow between yer eyes and the horizon before it's on plane.

sounds like a good load carrying and all around prop to me. i didnt know they were pitched that high. think i'll try one. thanks...:)

j_martin
11-03-2006, 09:10 AM
I was wrong on size. the small bore high five is available up to 24" pitch, the large bore to 25".

I was surprised at how well it stuck to the lake with the motor as high as I could put it without compromising cooling. I calculated that I would need a 25 in prop, and the 24 turned out to be perfect. I'm over-rev'd a few hundred with one on, half a tank of gas, half full live wells, and cold water and air, about 39F. It should range in perfect in the summer.

Any prop is a compromise. You have to decide which characteristics you want. For an all around prop, from pulling water skis to getting two fat fishermen and all their gear out of the hole and to the spot, it's great. It's not a balls out racing prop, wasn't designed to be.

john

pyro
11-03-2006, 11:33 AM
Hydropimp, try a chopper or ET. With more power, maybe a cleaver.

dnman
11-18-2006, 08:30 PM
After reading this ,I did a bit of math and chose the Trophy plus 17 P for my hydrasports 1750 Dc,115 yamaha 4 stroke,it ran 3.4 mph faster than a 19P yamaha black stainless prop @5800 rpm and ran 2.4 mph faster than a 17P yamaha black stainless prop @ 6100 rpm,with the trophy plus turning 6100 rpms and has all the benifits of a 4 blade with more top end...Great prop!

The Big Al
11-18-2006, 08:48 PM
After reading this ,I did a bit of math and chose the Trophy plus 17 P for my hydrasports 1750 Dc,115 yamaha 4 stroke,it ran 3.4 mph faster than a 19P yamaha black stainless prop @5800 rpm and ran 2.4 mph faster than a 17P yamaha black stainless prop @ 6100 rpm,with the trophy plus turning 6100 rpms and has all the benifits of a 4 blade with more top end...Great prop!

trust me, not bashing you personally.

But any Mercury prop would out perform any Yamaha Black Prop

But just because it's better that what you replaced does not mean there still not something better than a Trophy.

Hydraulica
11-19-2006, 06:35 AM
Hello Gentlemen,
I trialled the Powertech TR04 23p on my Allison 1900SS (Australian manufacture) fitted with 200 Merc SKi boat over the weekend.
I was very impressed withg the overall performance, although at 5500rpm slip was apparent becuase of bow drop although speed was increasing to 65mph at 6300rpm. Any suggestions? Maybe i will trial the 25p.

Hydraulica
Sydney Australia

Mr. Demeanor
11-20-2006, 07:26 AM
I just tried an exhaust seal ring on my Trophy and it did bring cruise speed up a couple mph. I didnt get a chance to do a top end run as I had a full load of guests and gear on the boat.