Help with Vintage Jolly Roger

[Astroglass 200]

Hey All

I'm hoping someone can help me with some information. I currently have a 1987 19.5ft Astroglass fish and ski with a 1987 Mariner 200 that was recently rebuilt. Pretty much since day one it has not performed to my expectations. I have made some progress making it better, but it just seems to be way to heavy and the hull not desinged to get enough lift. Anyway currently it is time to replace the interior but I don't want to spend a bunch of money on it if it isn't going to perform, so I have been watching for another boat to put my motor and stuff on.

I found what I'm told is a 1972 Jolly roger looks to be an 18ft that had a new interior 2 years ago and was stored inside until recently. about all it should need is a good cleaning and buff job to be nice again. I can pick this boat up for about the same cost as the materials to replace my interior. Problem is I can't find any information on Jolly Roger boats so I have no idea how it will perform, if its a well built boat, if it will hold my 200 on it (originally it had a 125 or 150 eveinrude) ect ect.........

So basically if anyone knows anything about the old Jolly Roger's it would help me out greatly. Also what your opinions on getting it to replace my Astroglass. I'm including some pics below so you can see what boats I'm talking about.

Thanks a bunch for the help, oh and if you think this will get more responses in another forum let me know and I'll repost it. Laters.....Josh

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[Raceman]

I don't remember a whole lot about em, but there was one here back in the 70's or 80's. The bottom had a deeper V than most of the V bottoms of that era, which made em a little better rough water boat than others of their size range. Also, since it's a rounded pad V, rather than a pad, it'll be a handfull to drive if it has enough power to really get up on the center of the bottom. I don't remember anything about the quality/construction.

[David_L6]

There used to be one of those boats around here - a looong time ago. The name stuck with me is the main reason I remember it. I think it had a V-4 115 h.p. Evinrude on it. I don't know anything about the build quality. I wouldn't try a 200 h.p. on it though. (Unless I was pushing barges with it. :rolleyes: ;) ) As Raceman said, with the pad (no pad) that boat has, it'll be a bear to drive if you put enough power on it to air it out.

[Astroglass 200]

Well since I didn't get many reponses the first time I figured I would revive this thread. I'm still considering picking up the Jolly Roger due to a lack of nice boats in the area! And this is one idea I had.

Buy the boat, stip it down flip it on the trailer, glass in a pad on it and repaint the bottom. Flip it back over and "beef-up" the transom. Install my Mariner 200, controls, hydrolic jack plate, and almost new twin cable anti feed back steering. Then give it a good scrubing, color sand and buff.

Let me know what you guys think? I'm getting tired of my slow a$$ heavy boat, and I don't want to have to redo the clear coat and interior and still have a tank of a boat.

Oh and one more thing most of the lakes I go to are over 5000ft elevation, so going a little overboard on power here shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks a bunch....Josh

[Astroglass 200]

Would this be better asked in another forum????

[Propster]

I don't think many people have heard of a Jolly Roger on this site. I have seen a lot of them over in Washington State. I think they were made in Spokane, Wa. Most I have seen look like this. http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/boa/347086477.html
They were a low cost semi-performance boat. There were probably only in business between 1971 and 1976.

[Astroglass 200]

Cool, thanks for the info!!!! I'm from washington also, nice lakes and boats up there...

[Jeff_G]

Don't know anything about the boat but I would pick up a later model inline 115 (about the same as the 150), with the ADI ignition and run that on it. The 90 is just too restricted and the 100# difference between the 200 will probably make a better handling boat. You can then sell the 200 and not have to put any real $ into the whole deal. I think the 200 will be a real handful.

[Astroglass 200]

the 90 thats on the jolly is not in the deal. Its just setting on the storage (not enough engine stands) last time the jolly was run it had a 140 rude or something and ran 45-50 mph, I can do that with my current boat. Also I have way to much into the 200 to sell it

My main goal here is a faster funner boat and I can't seem to get this heavy azz Astroglass to perform, nor can I seem to find anyone that has any idea how to make it perform. If I could find a Hydrostream or something to put my 200 on I would be all set, but fast outboard boats just don't exist around here for some reason.

Thanks for the help guys, all suggestions appricated....Josh

[2us70]

That Jolly Roger looks like another one of many boats of that vintage that were based on Glastron hulls with different decks. For a while in the late 60s and early 70s small outfits all over the country were popping molds off cut down Glastrons and then putting their own decks on them.

[Scream And Fly]

Those inlines look so cool. Welcome to the site :)

[Astroglass 200]

2us70: interesting, I never knew that about the glastrons.


Scream And Fly: yeah they are cool lines aren't they, thats why my uncle picked it up, he was going to repower it and keep it but has since since found an even cooler boat boat to keep. Thanks for the welcome, I've been a member since 2003, but haven't really posted much until recently.

thanks again....Josh