duel cable steering

[Jimbo_152]

Since everybody was so helpful with the motor mount question, lets try another. I know nothing about going fast without killing myself or others but I hear a lot of talk about duel cable steering. I'm guessing at about 50-60 mph things can go wrong fast if the cable goes. So, what do duel cable systems run price wise? Are they complicated to install? I've done simple cable replacments. How do they mount to the motor? Can I utilize my present steering box? Right now there is a simple bolt from the cable to the motor. It looks like that puppy would be prone to shear right off before the cable would break no matter how many cables were on there. Are there any good sites that would tell me more. I tried the teleflex site but nothing jumped out at me. Any help would be appreciated!

[jmr112]

What are you running:straight rack, or rotary, teleflex,mercury ect.

The only one i'm familiar whit is the stright rack merc.If you hava this type it is not so complicated but you will need another straight rack a super ride guide kit a steering cable,a dual steering attaching kit and ride guide attaching kit, you can get the prices at mercurymarine.com parts express.

Estimate about 3hrs to get it done.
Good luck
:cool:

[Liqui-Fly]

I replaced my steering last year and was looking at all types including hydraulic. I found the best bang for the buck is the Teleflex NFB dual rack system. For around $300 you get a nice system that is suitable for boats running up to 85-90 mph. The system does a decent job with steering torque. You would need to add an additional tube to the front of your clamp bracket and a new bracket on the end of your steering arm to accomodate the second cable. This will run you another 80 dollars or so. For the price you pay for cables alone it is in your best interest to go with the entire package unless of course you can find a decent used system or cables which seem to be readily available now that many are going to hydraulic.
David

[Rickracer]

...you will get it for less at www.rickracers.com :D I handle all of the above and then some.

[Talon2.5]

i agree ..................
best bang for the buck is the Teleflex NFB dual rack system


i agree...................
you will get it for less at www.rickracers.com

[dan agnew]

in my experiance it will depend on what type hull you got and the setup combo.
if u got a v hull and it is rite quick u may not want the nfb system.
my bitch with nfb is the feel when running hard. i say u need some steering input from engine to steering wheel to your hands to your brain. nfb takes away the engine-wheel-hand-brain input. true the torque is gone as well as feel. also when you attempt to drive the boat you get into a boat roll counter steer motion. nfb has what i call a bump when you first start to counter steer and it will usually cause you to oversteer it as once you move wheel it will ease up a bunch, until you countersteer back again.
we got a 20 foot vulture 2.4 mod that has nfb and boat has 12 inch of setback. no steering torque easly steered but feel and hump make it hard to run

Danny
airtrap disregard all this b.s.

[B.Leonard]

Just installed this setup on my Lund for around $400. Very easy to install. The engine bracket and second cable really shoot the price up.

The engine bracket looks hokey but seems to work.

I can see how what Dan is saying could be a problem, there is a definite amount of resistance to turn the wheel. At first I thought it was No Feed Back from either end :D But I got used to it.

What I really liked is how HD the helm is! No play in the shaft and very little backlash in the gearing. Very stout helm. The whole setup feels very solid and safe.


-BL

[Liqui-Fly]

From the extreme and is probably used to cable pulley systems...is that correct Dan?

The Teleflex is nice but performance also depends on how you adjust it. If you pull all the slack out which makes it harder to steer...it becomes more responsive. If you leave it snug it steers easy at all speeds and works great on less than ultra high performance applications.
David

[Kiwi Dave]

Jimbo

FYI the second cable is used not so much to add strength but to allow you to tension one against the other to remove any free play which exsist in the cable system.

This aids in better control and helps prevent chine walking on a V bottom.


Kiwi Dave

[Liqui-Fly]

It's purpose is to have a backup if one breaks not to remove slack. Removing the slack is just part of setting it up. Your post might lead some to believe the extra cable is there for tension only which isn't true.
David

[Rickracer]

2 really good reasons to go dual:
(1) More strength and reliability
(2) Much more precise feel and control
:D :D :D :D

[B.Leonard]

Not to be anal but...

It is there as added support, 2 cables are stronger than one. The second cable is not intended as a redundant system.

Even if one cable is slightly out of adjustment, the other will flex when under a load and the second cable will eventually come to tension to distribute the load over the second cable and second set of gears.

But then again, LQ has been known to pick a fight from time to time :D

-BL

[Liqui-Fly]

I'm not picking fight. I fight for facts only. You wait someday you'll all see. I'm just trying to keep someone from getting the impression that the extra cable is an "adjustment feature" and not a "oh crap one broke" feature. Thankyou drive through.
David

[B.Leonard]

You would think a Freakin Guru would know the diff between a supporting system and a redundant system! Geeeez! :D ;) ;)

LF, somebody has to keep you sharp during idle times! LOL!! :D

[Liqui-Fly]

Redundant would be like saying slow Lund:D . Supportive would be like hey that's fast for a Lund.

I think you may have earned the title World's Fastest Lund. That's what I'm going to call the Fly....World's Fastest Stratos VT Ski.

David

[B.Leonard]

That's been one of my concerns about buying a skinny "go-fast" boat... As soon as I do that I can now be judged along with the rest of them, with the Lund, I'm always first in my class :D

-BL

[H2Onut]

Either poop or get off the toliet BRUCE LEONARD.

JUST DO IT ! Its even got one of them precious WHITE Johnnys you so dearly love.

It has YOU written all over it, yes YOU B leonard can take it home today. Operators standing buy, He who hesitates .........


Your inventory will then be

Family Crusier

Walleye boat

Hot Rod

[B.Leonard]

Oooooooo! I like the way that sounds! :D

I have cash in hand, can't get a hold of the guy!

-BL

[Liqui-Fly]

What are you buying?
David

[B.Leonard]

http://forums.screamandfly.com/showthread.php?threadid=11077

-BL

[Liqui-Fly]

Does it come with the anchor too? She's awfully pretty. Imagine how ugly you'll look in it.
David

[B.Leonard]

I actually think I'd look pretty cool.... here's a recent shot of me... :D

-BL

[Liqui-Fly]

For the big muscles cause shorts dat little shouldn't be able to hide anything....which they apparently are.
David

[B.Leonard]

They'll shrink up on ya :D

-BL

[Liqui-Fly]

Looks more like disappear to me hehe. Buy dat badass tunnel!!
David