Dodge Ram 1500's....good trucks?

[imq707s]

I'm looking at an 04' Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 quad-cab with the 5.7 Hemi in it. I've never owned a Dodge before, but it seemed like it drove really nice and had plenty of power for towing my boat.

Are there any known defects with these trucks? Weak diffs/trannys/motors?

Any info would be great.

[81hydrostream]

Never drove the 1500 but drove the 2500 quad cab with the same motor for a company I use to work for and I swear you could watch the needle on the gas gauge move.

[DoktorC]

Ya...I've got a regular cab 2X4 with the 4.7....terrible gas mileage!!! Everything else is great..but man does it use fuel!

[imq707s]

Unless all of the reviews are wrong.....12/18 is what the 1500's with 5.7 HEMI should get.

Maybe it depends on if you have your foot in the gas a bunch?

Thanks for the info guys.

[Pro300x24LD]

Drove my Fiance's aunts truck to move some stuff one time, averaged about 17 mpg's on the highway according to the computer on the headliner. That was at 75ish. Was a nice truck, drove reall good. Don't know of any issues that htye have.

[LikwidCourage]

You couldnt pay me to buy another one (or lease for that matter).

The fuel is worse than any other truck I have driven, bigger or smaller.
The ride is rough, the bumpsteer is almost enough to take you off the road.
The seats are like milk crates.
The hemi makes power at like 4500 rpm, and hold on to your wallet, cause its gonna drink at those REVs

Look damn good though, I bought the HEMI Sport in '04.5.
Dealer told me they were limited (F%$#%@ liars) and got a smokin .5% lease cause the dealer wanted company business.

Thought i could have even with all of the above, but cant wait to get out! Currently 16000 miles under lease allowance, for the first time ever!! I wonder why?

[imq707s]

What kind of milage are the Fords and Chevys getting with the V8's? I wouldn't think it would be to much different....maybe 1-2 MPG

[Riverratt]

You really didn't think you would get a cut and dried answer did you? I own a Durango with a 4.7 and a Ram quad cab with a magnum 5.9 (360) and I like them both. Do they like gas? Yes but they are 4 wheel drives with a V8 what can you expect. It is all in what you want and how you drive it. A guy I work with had 3 rams between 94 and 03 all 4 wheel drive with 360 and got 12 mpg no matter how he drove it. He now has an 05 with a Hemi and is getting 16 mpg. If you like the truck buy it.

[Boz]

My F-150 Supercrew Lariat gets about 18/21-22.

[Over-Easy]

Knowing Dodge's bad reputation for burning up transmissions. I would stay far away from them. They claim they've corrected the problem, but, I wouldn't want to do their R&D for them. Not to mention the resale value on a Dodge is the lowest of all the full size trucks (at least in my area).

[DoktorC]

My truck uses significantly more fuel then my brother's chev 4X4 extended cab!...AND its much slower lol.

My boss's last Hemi truck did burn up the tranny @ 75000kms too. We do run our trucks really hard and don't do ANY maintenance....I do like my truck but it's expensive to drive (more then other 4X4 trucks...)

[imq707s]

"We do run our trucks really hard and don't do ANY maintenance"

Why in the world would you do that?????? :confused:

[Hot Shot Merc]

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[1BadAction]

damn rob, your neighbors even boarded up their windows to get away from the ugly :p :D

[jphii]

I'm on my fourth one, 2 4x4's & 2 2 wheel. Aside from the mileage I've NEVER had a major problem with any of them. My current '03 has 75000 on it, and I'll probably keep this one till it dies. It tows anything, including the 31' Chaparral we had thay weighed 11000 on the trailer. And it got 10mpg towing that. I also have Dodge vans for business. Great trucks.

[CUDA]

Come on Joe Dodge VANs suck:eek: and the only reason I drive a Dodge truck is the Cummins DIESEL, and I do like the looks . I also have a 03 Duramax and I'm glad all those repair bills were covered by GMC.

[Ted Stryker]

The newer Chevrolet are excellent on mileage... The 5.3 will pull anything that a 1/2 ton truck chassis can handle, with plenty of unloaded speed for a truck... You should get over 20 mpg very easily out on the road, probably real high teen's overall average with common sense.. For transportation and otherwise light duty ( - 7,000 towing ), I would be in a new Chevrolet... Oh yeah, great transmission also...

[Casey]

My F-150 Supercrew Lariat gets about 18/21-22
maybe at 55mph

[jtb]

I have a 94' 1500 2 wheel with a 318 and love it. 17-18 mpg i did notice that it has alot less ass than the 360 that my buddy had. I can't even spin the tires on mine.

[pwerwagn]

I would be in a new Chevrolet... Oh yeah, great transmission also...

Hmm, I beg to differ. We've had 2 03's and an 04 and we just got rid of the 04 monday due to tranny issues. Thats why all 3 were taken back, because of the tranny. Other than that, they ran decent for a 5.3, and got acceptable mileage.

In all honesty, all of the models have their good points. And they all have their bad points. Its generally a toss-up.

Like was mentioned before, if you like the truck, buy it.

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[Thomas H]

I've had three Dodge 1500s now (all 2 wheel drive) and they are great. One 318, one 360, and a new 4.7 liter. Averaging 125-150K miles before I trade them with the original transmissions. Oh, the new 4.7 gets 18+ MPG open road not towing. My opinion: Welcome to Dodge country!

[racer]

Had a for f150 that averaged 16 miles to gal. for the driving I do, had 115k miles when I sold it good except for 3 alternators. Now have a 1500 dodge with a Hemi 79k miles so far 1 set brakes no other problems it gets 15.2 for the same driving as the ford both are good in my opinion.

[The Big Al]

New Chevrolet trucks are winning the fuel Mileage hands down!!!

And Anything after 2000 is doing great with the small v8

Buy that Dodge, and you will learn how to shop for the cheapest gas around!

Because you will here a big sucking sound when towing!

That is were the difference lays! (in gas engines)

Dodge is the worst! hands down the worst!

I don't care what anyone says, they are the worst!
Out of the big American 3

The Nissan Titan is the WORST OF THE WORST!

Durability I think they all build a great truck.

Ford has torgue, Chevy has the speed.

I believe the Ford does best of all pulling.

Now, if it's a 4x4, then buy the one you like, they all do about the same.
FORD, Chevy, Dodge


But in Resale, fuel mileage it's GM!!!

I believe towing the Ford does best in mileage.

I have a 01 Silverado small v8, pulls My Bullet with absolute no problem.
I also have a F-150, 00 with 5.4, it does not know the boat is back there.
And does better on milage than the GM towing (only by 1-2 mpg)

Now, the Ford empty it's in the 17-18 range, never higher, GM is in the 19-21 range.

Now the Ford only drops to 14-15 hwy range pulling, the GM, 13-15 Hwy, both the same. The Ford pulls better.

These are facts and my father inlaw has the Dodge, he says it's a 14 mpg uphill, down hill, empty or towing. 5.8 v8 360

[1BadAction]

Al... cleaned my MAF 2 weeks ago and picked up 2mpg average and 4 on the highway :eek: 23 mpg at 65mph now with the 5.3 and 3.73 gears.

[BUSHWACKER]

Before my Dodge trannys go on my 85 & 89 RAMCHARGER's both 4wd with almost 200k on each.
85 pulled my 24' BB Superboat from Pa to fl & my 25' Wellcraft NOVA BB from Iowa to fl no problems, but they aren't broken in yet, so who knows, but I guess I'll take a beatin when I try to trade em in, I paid $1,200.00 for the 85 4 years ago :eek: :D

[jhwh]

debating fuel usage on big v8's is silly though, they are all gas hogs ;) gotto love the sounds though

I have a 2004 2500QC hemi and I'm superhappy, could have gotten the diesel but I wanted a real US v8 since this is my first american car.

and, if you think your gas prices are outrageous, ours is 3X what you got, I will be converting the truck to run on LPG (propane) sometime next month as it costs about what you pay for regular gas, (considerd extremly cheap here)

[pwerwagn]

These are facts and my father inlaw has the Dodge, he says it's a 14 mpg uphill, down hill, empty or towing. 5.8 v8 360

for starters, its a 5.9 not a 5.8. And my wife has a 98, 4x4, quad cab short bed with the 5.9 360 auto with 3.55 gears and 265's and it gets 17-18 empty. stock everything, but tires. It does drop to about 12-14 when towing 75mph though.
facts is facts. :rolleyes:



Now, the Ford empty it's in the 17-18 range, never higher, GM is in the 19-21 range.
Now the Ford only drops to 14-15 hwy range pulling, the GM, 13-15 Hwy, both the same. The Ford pulls better.


This is why I have a diesel!!! My 98 dodge cummins gets 22-23 empty, 17-18 towing around 5,000 lbs and the cabover camper, and 14-15mpg towing 16,000lbs. And just last week it made 371hp/903lbft on a dynojet 248 (rear wheels) with nothing more than a ground fuel plate and a turbo housing (and a clutch to hold the power, of course).:D

--Jeff

[The Big Al]

for starters, its a 5.9 not a 5.8. And my wife has a 98, 4x4, quad cab short bed with the 5.9 360 auto with 3.55 gears and 265's and it gets 17-18 empty. stock everything, but tires. It does drop to about 12-14 when towing 75mph though.
facts is facts. :rolleyes:

And you think thats good ????? Worst of the 3


This is why I have a diesel!!! My 98 dodge cummins gets 22-23 empty, 17-18 towing around 5,000 lbs and the cabover camper, and 14-15mpg towing 16,000lbs. And just last week it made 371hp/903lbft on a dynojet 248 (rear wheels) with nothing more than a ground fuel plate and a turbo housing (and a clutch to hold the power, of course).:D

--Jeff

903 ft torque?????? BULL ****!!! Thats a tall tail!

[pwerwagn]

Wasnt trying to start an argument, but how do you figure its the lowest of the 3???? You said 17-18 empty for the ford, and I said. 17-18!!!
It does get 12-14 towing, but thats towing a 24' enclosed traler. I bet If we used it to tow the boat it would be 1 or 2mpg better.
I wasnt trying to start an argument, just saying that it does NOT get 14mpg empty....

Tall TALE (not tail..) huh?? Lemme scan the sheet next time im around a scanner.... but for a little teaser here is a chart of advertised tq/hp ratings with fuel plates not including the housing upgrade...mines a 98 manual, and I have a bigger plate (#100) than the largest they advertise (#10).

However, I do realize that chassis dynos are not totally accurate thats why I said it was on a chassis dyno. Especially considering the fact that they used the engine rpm and not the wheel speed to calc tq, which will throw it off because it wasnt in 4th (1:1).
I was just stating that it runs freekin good and still gets good mileage, especially when compared to a gasser.

[Riverratt]

for starters, its a 5.9 not a 5.8. And my wife has a 98, 4x4, quad cab short bed with the 5.9 360 auto with 3.55 gears and 265's and it gets 17-18 empty. stock everything, but tires. It does drop to about 12-14 when towing 75mph though.
facts is facts.

--Jeff
I would like to know your wifes secret on how to get that fuel mileage. I have a 99 quad cab short bed with the 360 and the best I can get is 12. If I tow my sleekcraft on the highway I get 10 and if I tow my pontoon boat I get 6 and that is on the interstate.

[pwerwagn]

She does not do any city driving, thats probably part of the reason. Her trip to and from work is mostly 55mph with 2 or 3 stoplights, and about 23 miles each way.
I know when we had the durango with the 5.2 (318) it did decent on the highway/freeway, but sucked terrible in the city. Usually got 10-12 in the city in that thing.

[CUSTOM PERFORMANCE 1]

I hate to bust your bubble there Big Al, but obviously you do not know much about diesels. I suggest you do a little homework before you make rediculous comments like that one!!!!

You see, 900 lb/ft of torgue is easy to obtain on modern day diesels. :)

[eli]

talk about towing gas milage we towed a 23'daytona from cross lake minn to northern wis with a jeep liberty with the 3.7 motor, the trip there went 20 mpg, towing went 10 mpg home. oofda. wasnt horseing it either.

[STV_Keith]

Diesels don't many any power. pFFFFTTTT!

http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/brandpages/dodge/131_0407_dodge_ram_cummins_upgrade/

[1BadAction]

Damn Keith, that almost makes me want to buy a diesel... too bad none of them make any diesel trucks that are smaller than the size of a small house.

[jphii]

That's no chit. This long bed quad I have now is huge. And it makes 325hp & 610ft/lbs stock from the factory. And I can get 24 empty, 20 pulling the boat.

[STV_Keith]

Heh, it's not hard to have a mid 11 second pickup these days, that will still tow just about anything you want to the lake/river and get 16-20mpg. :)

[imq707s]

Mid 11-second truck as a daily driver? I really double that.

Towing something with that mid-11 second truck and getting 16-20 mpg....never.


You figure most pickups weight 5000+ lbs. Do you know how much HP you need to get a 5000lb. truck to run mid-11's in the 1/4?? I know my 3200lb camaro was running 11.20's and it was making 500+ HP easy.

I have seen some super fast trucks....but they are all far from daily drivers.

;)

[STV_Keith]

Ian, we need to get you educated on these things my man! :)

The modern day diesel truck is not nearly what it was years ago. Let's get a few stats right...

Average 2500/diesel Dodge pickup weighs in at around 7000-7500#.
500-550rwhp/1100ft-lbs of torque TO THE TIRES is very easy to accomplish in todays world. My personal truck, as shown in the link above, makes over 515hp/1052ft-lbs and it's a modestly built truck. Reliable as the day is long. Other than oil/fluid changes, I haven't had to replace anything in the powertrain since those mods.

My truck gets about 16.5mpg in town ripping around and almost 19 on the highway. Being a manual, my truck would only run in the high 13's. This same truck with an auto would run in the low 13's, at full weight. Towing my STV, the mileage drops to ~14mpg, towing at 80mph. Towing the Scarab at 70mph, it drops to about 12mpg.

Now, take a look at this video: http://www.dieseldynamics.com/videos/mm02/keith-jim.mpg

In that vid, I'm driving my bosses truck, the white Dodge. It cut a 1.82 60' on that pass, running the 1/8 at 7.4x @ 86mph and 11.96 @ 110 in the 1/4. Mind you, we did that in May of 2002...and there have been a few improvements since then. This truck made 740rwhp/1460tq at the wheels. It was his daily driver for 2 years before he sold it.

Diesel power and torque has come a long way, and it can do so with better mileage as diesel has more BTU's of energy per gallon than gasoline (125,000 BTU/gal for gas, 147,000 BTU/gal for #2 diesel). With their higher compression, they are typically more efficient as well.

[1BadAction]

there is a few 2wd trailblazer SS's running high 11's with drag radials, mild stall (2600rpm still good for towing and DD), headers, exhaust, and tune. the same TBSS runs 11.20s on a 150 shot. although thats a long way from a truck that weighs 3000+lbs more doing it...

[STV_Keith]

And how much weight will that trailblazer tow? I'd be happy to tow 15k with that 740hp Dodge.

[pwerwagn]

Keith is right, diesels rock. You cant beat them.
We recently put together an older 99 24V, simple combo on the cheap. edge comp, some DD injectors (from the company keith works for!!!), a turbo and other mild bolt ons (exhaust, intake, etc). its an auto (non-billet BD). Runs 13.9 in the 1/4, gets 20+ mpg, tows great, and is his daily driver.

Here is a vid I took of a buddies Duramax. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8648005887797945560 Stock turbo, stock injectors, full ATS trans, some nitrous and two PPE boxes stacked (+2 hot and dmaximizer..). In this vid it runs 12.9, but has since gone 12.3 with some front end work (you will notice the crazy front end movement at launch). He drives it every day, and comes here to alb quite often to race it (he lives in durango, about 350 miles away). The truck has 120,000 miles, stock motor. Its also his work truck, so it has to be dead reliable.
The truck made 771hp (corrected, 1.25 factor) and 1543 lb ft on spray at 5400 feet (at ATS). It made 618 hp uncorrected, 1280 ft/lb the same day on spray. On april 1st last year at PPE, it made 570.5 uncorrected, #2 diesel only (no nitrous). 1143 lb/ft. :-0

But yes, there are numerous high 11/low 12 second diesels around now that are daily driven and tow regularly. Its not a cheap feat, but can be done relatively easy. Especially the new common rail cummins and duramax's. the 6.0's still have a ways to come though....


--Jeff

[pwerwagn]

Dyno chart from another simple, cheap combo. 2002 24V cummins. edge hot juice, DD3's, HTT QD 64 turbo, intake/exh.
The left column is cor hp, then un cor hp, then cor tq, then un-cor tq.
495hp/1003 lb/ft.

Its a daily driver, he tows a 34' 5th wheel/jeep, still gets 16mpg towing.
It recently ran a 14.2 here in alb, and its a 6-speed. that was launching in 2nd (4wd) and shifting all the way to 6th (sb con fe clutch).

[Techno]

I didn't read all the post here but have to say I think the fuel milage of my ram sucks. I don't care how you want to compare.
I have a 68 427 Vette with 4.11s and it gets 14 mpg. Its only feature here is its lighter. It don't seem to matter highway or not.:rolleyes:
I've owned 2- 69 eldorados 472s with fairly performance rear ends and they got 12-14 mpg.
A 70 DeVille with a 472 and maybe more highway rearend gears, again 12-14 mpg. Highway did skyrocket to 17 mpg.
The Caddys all weigh about the same as this
BIG 368 engine in the ram and the rearends are close.
The ram gets 12 mpg. I'm not talking highway miles since I don't drive them.
4 miles to work stop and go, 4 miles back. OD is on part of the trip.
How does a modern- small engined- tame rearended and relatively light vehicle with OVERDRIVE! get about the same as the above examples...carburated.:confused:

[pwerwagn]

No ram had a "368" engine, so im assuming you mean 360. So I would guess its a half ton. Do you know if it has 3.91's or 3.55's??
Also a "fairly performance rearend" is pretty vague. I do know a lot of those cars with those torquey big blocks (oldsmobiles and such especially) had 3.08's or higher (numerically lower).

Then you figure in the terrible wind resistance of the truck compared to the car, the probably 1,000lbs more weight, todays crappy gas, the more aggressive tread of a truck, and voila, theres the mileage reduction.

But yeah, I agree that some of these fuel injected vehicles dont pull their weight when it comes to the gas pump. Those older quadrajets were actually pretty darn efficient carbs.

[Techno]

I must be thinking of the other caddy engine, so 360. 3.55s Figure in the larger diameter wheels and this ratio is actually smaller. With overdrive, even lower. 4,490 lbs. registration. 1997 ram

The Deville is 2.93 SH weight 4,660 L-dog 3.07 Shipping weight is listed as 4,550
Cars weigh as much as the truck does. Actually more.
aerodynamics don't count much at sub 45 mph. They do some, but not much.
Cars were driven with modern non high octane gas, but as high as available. Truck is low, the only good thing about it.:)

360 x 3.55 = 1,278 cu in per wheel revolution. This wheel has traveled furthest. The truck has traveled further.
472 x 2.93 = 1,382
472 x 3.07 = 1,449 427 x 4.11 = 1,754 but 3,200 lbs. This wheel has traveled less than any of the others.

The truck does have a pretty blocky tread and is pumped to about 50% of its rating. 80 psi max. So could have something to do with it?
Still you would think 30 years and less cubes and with I'm guessing about the same final drive...
The big question I suppose is what am I doing with a 3200 pound car with a 7 liter engine and 4.11s:eek: :D

[pwerwagn]

aerodynamics don't count much at sub 45 mph. They do some, but not much

Thats true, very true.

I think the big thing with todays gas motors is the emmissions crap. Cats dont help fuel mileage, nor do all the other crap on them. smog pumps, etc all rob power (your dodge shouldnt have a smog pump though, I dont think).
Another huge power robber now days is all the electronics. With all this frickin electronic crap, alternators are made larger to supply more juice. that hurts some.

If you wanna figure the final drive ratio between the vehicles, the od on the A518/46RE should be .069:1 (the truck).

Is your truck 2wd or 4wd?? Half ton??

[Liquid]

I have a 2005 1500 quad cab, K&N and a duel Stainless Gibson exhaust systen. The truck rides great, yes the miliage sucks a little, but if your not going to buy a truck because of 4 or 5 miles per gallon, you need to buy a toytoa, not a mans truck like a dodge. I can still spank a chevey or a ford while towing my boat.

jm2cents

[kay75]

heres our 1500 awsome truck fast to smokes tires every corner
121907

121908

[rossi]

22mpg out of a full size, especially a quad...hhaaaaaa, ya right.. Sorry to say the Hemis in the Dodges aren't even real Hemis but they came back with the gimmic and people fell for it. A Hemi in a 69 Dodge Charger is a real Hemi just not a money making name like Dodge made it to be today You paid for a Hemi then and thats what you got. Up in the north country where trucks take real punishing beatings and tow more than jet skis you see nothing but Silverados. No truck is going to touch one on fuel mileage and the 5.3 and 6.0 are bulletproof and I hate to say this and I'm going to regret it but if you want the ultimate tow machine that steps on the Dodge and you don't care about fuel mileage the Titan is an absolute beast, especially this years. Like I've said before, vehicles are a game of luck, your either going to have it or your not.

[pwerwagn]

22mpg out of a full size, especially a quad...hhaaaaaa, ya right.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Triple J]

i've run alot of dodges in my 30 plus years of driving,and they have all given my very good service.working for a engine rebuilder has also given me the info to figure that the dodge seems to be the strongest driveline. fords seem to have wierd issues in electrical,and the chev/gmc seem to be gutless compared to the hemi. the downside is those horses like at eat.

[pwerwagn]

Up in the north country where trucks take real punishing beatings and tow more than jet skis you see nothing but Silverados. No truck is going to touch one on fuel mileage and the 5.3 and 6.0 are bulletproof and I hate to say this and I'm going to regret it but if you want the ultimate tow machine that steps on the Dodge and you don't care about fuel mileage the Titan is an absolute beast


Im sorry, but no 5.3 or 6.0 can tow what a diesel can. If they were really towing heavy, they would have a diesel. Same goes for the titan. I'll hook twice the weight behind my truck, and bet $$ that I can still out tow the titan and get better mileage to boot.

--Jeff

[Wile E. Coyote]

My experience with two different dodge trucks, mileage on a single cab with the 318 about 16, mileage with a quad cab, same powertrain, about 12, without towing crap, loved both trucks....buuut, brakes at about 20k miles (dealer said thats normal) mileage sucked on the second truck and the dealer was NOT helpful at all, overall my expeirence with dealer customer service sucked, I ended up trading it in for a chevy, and the difference in mileage made up the difference in payment.....there is a reason most dealerships right now are offering sweetheart deals on dodges...:rolleyes:

[Action Dave]

I actually get better milage in my 06 Ram 1500 w/5.7 Hemi than I did in my 98 Dakota w/5.2 318. I get around 14mpg city driving on the VERY congested South Florida streets. I only got around 12mpg with the Dakota. Also, maybe if I lived in BFE with no traffic lights or traffic jams, I could get another 2-3 mpg. The 1500 gets 19mpg highway at 75mph. I get 14mpg towing my Action. Love both trucks. Sold the Dakota with 125,000 miles. Enginge and tranny were 100% solid when I sold it. Only replaced the water pump and a/c compressor in the 6+ years I owned the Dakota.

[bigbore]

My F-150 Supercrew Lariat gets about 18/21-22.

B.S. the dodge will averadge 14 m.p.g.,pretty nice truck,the hemi will get er done.

[aaronmt73]

Well ill chime in here as well I have a 2001 Dodge Ram club cab 4X4 cummins 24v w/5 speed 3.55 gears dana 60 front dana 80 rear. The truck has 4"mbrp ,exaust edge juice with attitude , afe intake and fass fuel system,south bend clucth. I get between 20-21 unloaded with edge set in stg 3. Towing a 19 travel trailer and 2 quads in the bed of the truck it will still get 17-18 as long as you keep it under 2000rpm. The newer diesel 03-up havent proved to get the mieage the older ones do. I wouldnt own a doge truck without the cummins, ive heard horror storys of 8- 10mpg with lifted hemi trucks. A older anal guy i work with has the same truck as mine but with a 6speed and has gotten as high as 24-25 with running exactly 60mph on trips , I wont do that hes rerady to retire hes got the time to take it slow. This is my second cummins dodge and I can say a bad thing about them. I know with the cummins the more mileage the get they tend to get better fuel mileage im at 170k. I heard there not really broken in till 50-70k. Aaron

[rossi]

All the tests and comparisons for 07 are out. In all the Ford and Dodge finished last in all of them. The conclusion is the Ford is powerless and the Silverado, Titan and Tundra show more power than the other two in all aspects and thats with a 1000lb trailer and the other two empty. The Titan and Tundra killed that Hemi. Worst part is the Titan and Tundra are more American made than all the American trucks in the comparison:confused: :eek:

[The Big Al]

Also compair apples to apples!

Road and track called the Toyota smoke and mirrors!

Now, the big engine option in all the trucks, the Toyota with the 6 speed and 4:30 gear did the best job. (no brainier) But gas consumption is off the charts!

Chevy does the second best but very very close!

GM will have the 6 speed available before 07 ends like they do in the SUV's.

But here is were the difference comes out!

Take the basic engines! The smaller v-8's and Toyota and Nissan are not even close in any aspect!

Chevy and Ford dominate this category! Dodge was also better but in the middle.

Al

And yes, I hate the misconception Toyota is playing!

NISSAN with not pass a gas pump! It's that bad!

[Pro300x24LD]

Nissan, toyota, etc. Are NOT more american made then the chevy ford or dodge.

Look at the number of people that are employed LIVING in the US due to directly working for gm or ford or dodge, vs toyota or nissan. Then look at the # of people in the US who work for a supplier to GM, Ford OR Dodge, and compare that to Toyota or Nissan, then look at how many people supply to those people, all the way down. Then look at the number of people that have jobs servicing, selling, reselling, etc. You WILL Find that the domestics have a MUCH bigger effect on EMPLOYED people living on american soil and that they are MUCH MORE AMERICAN.

Say what you will, but do the research, I have......(I am indirectly employed because of the auto industry, not because of toyota or nissan, how about you?)

[eli]

yes put in the 6.1 hemi in the dodge truck,forget gas mileage and retest against toystota.;)

[Charlie M]

My mother in laws 2004 Toyota Camery gets 24.1 MPG with a 60 year old driving it.

[pwerwagn]

Toyota good gas milage Bull Chit
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:D Thats funny!!

[jhwh]

my 2004 ram 2500 hemi has 55000 miles on it now and still feels as new.

only service has been oilchanges!

[bassworm1]

My dad just bought a 07 regular cab with the 360 in it.he's geting 18mpg on the hwy.we just bought a 06 durango with 4.7 tow pacage and its getting 17.4 all the time havent pulled yet with it but i love the dodges,dad had a 85 with the 318 that lasted for over 200,000 miles.with maintence all vehicles will last a long time!

[davids94]

I love my ram.... 2004 hemi Regular Cab 3.92 LSD, I get about 14 mpg in the city and 18-20 highway depending on speed. The 14 I get in the city is with me flooring it off every other light. I've got 34K on it and have had no issues whatsoever and I don't treat it very nicely either, Just change the oil.

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[mercclassic]

I bought 1500 dodge ram offroad in 2001. It had 19 miles on it when I drove it off the lot. It got terrible gas mileage then and still does today with 135,000 miles on it. But the only maintenance that I have done are oil changes every 5,000 miles, new disc brake pads on front 3 times, and 3 u-joint's on the drive line and front axle. The truck does get used alot (i live on a farm). Money I saved in maintenance got used in gas though.

[Markus]

My mother in laws 2004 Toyota Camery gets 24.1 MPG with a 60 year old driving it.

That's where they are supposed to be under city driving conditions. If it is highway, show her how to release the parking brake.

[EFI25]

I have a 2001 4x4 with the 360 that has 126,000 plus miles. I have gotten as high as 17.6 mpg on long trips with regular tires and down to 13 mpg during hunting season with mudders. I did have to put a water pump on about a month ago and also had to have a door flap repaired in the a/c system.

[zstevens]

i HAD an 01 qc offroad pkg ! lemon law special in the shop 58times in 5yr period ! ! ! it looks awesome , its a truck not a lexus n i liked the ride but never again will i own one :eek:

[jhwh]

sold my 2500 hemi recently, 65000 miles, just oil changes and regular service, best damn ride I ever had, all other cars keep breaking down.

[SFL STREAM]

got an 06' 1500 quad cab with the hemi... great riding truck, plenty of power, and very roomy inside... gas milage??? whatever, does anyone care what milage there boat is getting, just hold it down....

[Action Dave]

I just took my Ram1500 from Fort Lauderdale to Tampa. I locked cruise control at 75mph the whole way up I-75. 18.7mpg. That's with 87 octane. I could probably do better with the good stuff but I put enough of that in my boat.

[Jared@247innovations.com]

I have a 04 ram with hemi and get 19 on highway 75mph and like 16 around town got 15 towing a 7000lbs trailer to fl from pa at 70mph on 95