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OntarioStreamin
04-20-2006, 05:20 PM
I'm looking to buy a 150 or 175 opti for my vking.
Are the 150 and 175 fishing opti's any good?
Can lower ends and cowls be interchanged (sportmaster and Alien)?

And is there any word on a possible 150xs?:cool:

Andrew.

150aintenuff
04-22-2006, 01:20 AM
personally i would look to thew 200XS for your boat, give ya the access to a 15" mid.. and a factory sporty... but i havent seen or heard anything wrong with the 150 or 175's but they certainly dont have the RPM range that your current motor has the apility to turn.. and your holeshot may suffer due to the larger prop pitch. im sure others here will chime in with opinions as well..

you could bolt a sporty to a fissin opti but you would have to pay for it extra.. the 200XS can come with it from factory so you arent paying for a case you wouldnt necessarily use...

Stinky
04-22-2006, 05:29 AM
personally i would look to thew 200XS for your boat, give ya the access to a 15" mid.. and a factory sporty... but i havent seen or heard anything wrong with the 150 or 175's but they certainly dont have the RPM range that your current motor has the apility to turn.. and your holeshot may suffer due to the larger prop pitch. im sure others here will chime in with opinions as well..

you could bolt a sporty to a fissin opti but you would have to pay for it extra.. the 200XS can come with it from factory so you arent paying for a case you wouldnt necessarily use...

Holy @#$. I'm going to have to agree with everything 150aintenuff said.:eek:

200XS is a good motor. (but I'm a little biased) Check out the 24 hours of Rouen race. There are 7 of them running.

:)

150aintenuff
04-22-2006, 10:50 AM
i aint always dense stinky....

blkmtrfan
04-22-2006, 10:58 AM
I agree with Nick as well :p

By the time you make you own 150xs, you could havle probably already bought the 200xs.


Stinky, you didn't answer one of the original questions, what about a 150xs (kind of like the old 150 promax)?

dspencer
04-22-2006, 05:42 PM
You can get the 2.5xs for 2 grand less than the 200xs. More rpm's and power.

OntarioStreamin
04-22-2006, 09:54 PM
A new 200xs here is like 20k and I already have a sportmaster, I thought I could pickup a used 175 opti for like 10k and swap my sm over to the otpi and maybe through a alien cowl at it too.
Not too worried about rpms with gas being the way it is!

Thanks guys
Oh yah, any word on a 150/175xs?
:confused:
Andrew.

dspencer
04-22-2006, 10:33 PM
You can get a 2.5xs for 11.2 plus shipping and its 6800 rpm's and 225 horsepower. Those motors are not current but a super deal in an 05.

150aintenuff
04-23-2006, 02:01 AM
ontario, i can as of right now ship you a brand new in the box 2005 150 opti or a 200 carb motor for 10 K amercan no problem... and that is paying dealer retail here in probably the highest priced area in the country PLUS freight on an LTL carrier.... a new non current just across the border in the US should be EASY to find for that $$$ ammount and still have PLENTY for a alien cowl and graffics to boot heck a new 150 XR6 right now is only 8400 full retail... and that is over priced by normal across the country standards...

Stinky
04-23-2006, 05:27 PM
Stinky, you didn't answer one of the original questions, what about a 150xs (kind of like the old 150 promax)?

Thats the kind of question I can't answer. I still like my job.:rolleyes:

Sorry

:)

150aintenuff
04-23-2006, 10:40 PM
Thats the kind of question I can't answer. I still like my job.:rolleyes:

Sorry

:)



if ya truly like yer job why ya rollin yer eyes???? :p


for the HP crowds sake there should be something high reving in every common hp from 150 on up to 300+

XSive
04-24-2006, 01:47 PM
I don't understand why everyone thinks that a motor has to be a high rever to be considered a performance motor? With the advances in prop Technology in recent years you can obtain great holeshot and acceleration by choosing the proper propeller for your Rig, while still obtaining good top end.

This is done by blade design and/or PVS tuning.

Just my opinion.....

I love the old 2.5's that ran at 8000RPM but rebuilding them every 100-150 hours kinda sucks.

The 150 Opti is a great performing motor. My dad has one on his Checkmate. Runs like a swiss watch and sips the fuel. Whether or not you think it is great well, depends on what you expect. If you do go to one, don't use much, if any, setback on that boat. You can find new 2005's for about $8400 USD. The warranty is valid in Canada. The best price on a 200XS is about $13500USD at the US dealers or about $18000CDN if shopping Canadian dealers.

If a 150 is all you need then you still have a lot of $$$ in your jeans, cmpared to the 200XS.

150aintenuff
04-24-2006, 02:26 PM
got a point about props but potentially loosing upto 1000 RPM or more on same hull something has to suffer... and unfortunatly it would either e top speed.... or holeshot.. if he currently uses over hub props in the 24-26P range and then looses 1000 RPM in top end range he will be in the 30P range to go the same speed.. something will suffer.. its inevitabe physics are a bitch.. where as the 200XS has the potential to possibly use his existing props, gain a few MPH and still have opti relialbility, low end and a few more ponies to boot... the RPM range difference in the 150 and 200XS opti is 1200+ rpm and i cant think of anyoe with a Vking who is propped for 55-5700 at top end...

David
04-24-2006, 07:46 PM
I thought you already had a 200 and were shooting for 90 this year. I don't care how expensive gas gets, you'll never cover the cost of a new motor in fuel savings.

There is an Ontario 200XS in the motor for sale section. The motor is at Top Gun Marine, although it isn't owned by them. Low hours. I looked at it on Friday. It has a CLE gearcase, but you already have a sportmaster.

If you buy it, I can stop thinking about it. The CLE gearcase has a bad rep on Ally's, but I would like to be green.

150aintenuff
04-25-2006, 12:51 AM
CLE is fixable to work on alisons for less than 500 bucks... titus or bobs nose cone and problem solved..

Scream And Fly
04-25-2006, 01:09 AM
for the HP crowds sake there should be something high reving in every common hp from 150 on up to 300+


Our OptiMax 2.5XS went to 7100 RPM with no problem. That's an awesome engine, but where were all the buyers? Everyone wants a new engine, but when it comes out, very few actually buy it. :)

Andrew, a 150 would run great on a V-bottom V-King.

Greg

OntarioStreamin
04-25-2006, 04:45 PM
Thanks Guys,

I'm just thinking about the 150/175 opti as a future replacement.
I don't really need the extra mph or the extra cost of the 200xs... but if the price is right:rolleyes:

David go ahead, that xs would look sweet on your boat:)

150aintenuff
04-26-2006, 02:28 PM
since you have the mid, lower and would be doin a alien cowl anyway why not just buy an opti drop on when the time comes? food for thought

150aintenuff
04-26-2006, 02:32 PM
Our OptiMax 2.5XS went to 7100 RPM with no problem. That's an awesome engine, but where were all the buyers? Everyone wants a new engine, but when it comes out, very few actually buy it. :)

Andrew, a 150 would run great on a V-bottom V-King.

Greg
my guess is that
they were turned away because it LOOKED like a 3.0L..

1BadAction
04-26-2006, 02:36 PM
all talk and no buy... merc could release a 10 year warranty 9000rpm 300hp 2.5 opti for 15,000 and 95% of the people that bitch about no new motors would still be running broke dick 200's.

Scream And Fly
04-26-2006, 02:40 PM
Ocean Marine has stacks of 280s in the crate. Who wants to buy one?

XSive
04-26-2006, 06:09 PM
all talk and no buy... merc could release a 10 year warranty 9000rpm 300hp 2.5 opti for 15,000 and 95% of the people that bitch about no new motors would still be running broke dick 200's.


Alot of truth to this statement.

Scream And Fly
04-26-2006, 10:18 PM
Plus that, new 280s are available through Mercury as drop-ons - and will be for a long time. The "end" is not coming, as some think.

Lockjaw
04-26-2006, 10:19 PM
I found a new 175 opti here for 10.9k, which is way cheaper then the other dealers around me.

I wish they would make a high output 175, then I wouldn't have to overpower my hull with a looper. HAHA. :D

Scream And Fly
04-26-2006, 10:20 PM
High output 175.... 200XS? ;)

150aintenuff
04-26-2006, 10:51 PM
decals are cheep.. buy a 200 XS and then remove the 200 and install 175 stichers... duh

Lockjaw
04-27-2006, 07:38 AM
I did find a built 225 promax here on a 150 leg, but thought that might be overkill on my boat. :eek:

It had computer work too.

I would love a 200XS, but, that is more then I want to pay right now, and I would like it hanging off the back of a nicer boat. Not that mine is that bad, but it would look far better on the back of a Triton or Allison.

I have a boat/motor payment covered for the next 5 years, its called DAYCARE!!!!!

150aintenuff
04-27-2006, 09:20 AM
not overkill.... it just requires a more ginger aproach to throttle aplication....

1BadAction
04-27-2006, 09:58 AM
theres no such thing as too much power.

you have the basshawk, right Lockjaw?

Lockjaw
04-27-2006, 11:46 AM
Yes I do, and I really like the boat, but it has been difficult to get to run like I want. I rides nice though, and doesn't beat you to death in rough water, even though its only an 18 footer.

I figure the looper will help with balance some to, I want it to keep the nose up.

I can't afford all these toys right now, my son is going to be draining my wallet every week while I work, and as your banana's so aptly depict, the oil companies are really bending me over. The Tundra is a great truck, but it drinks some gas. I got 12 mph towing my boat to the tourney last weekend. :(

Lockjaw
04-27-2006, 11:48 AM
not overkill.... it just requires a more ginger aproach to throttle aplication....

I am kind of like the pilot on TopGun who quit so Maverick and Goose could go to Mirimar. I don't want to orphan my son just yet. :D

I have waited way to long to get one, so I want to enjoy him for a while.

1BadAction
04-27-2006, 12:00 PM
your banana's so aptly depict

yea, LOL... that basshawk would work real well with a 200-225 fishing motor. they are (or the ones I have seen) built like brick sh1t houses.

but like you said, theres more that effects new motor buying than the rating of the boat. :cool:

Lockjaw
04-27-2006, 04:32 PM
Its a solid hull thats for sure, and if you get it loose, it walks on you pretty bad. I am hoping this new engine, and some more set up work will help with that.

It fishes good, and thats all that matters for me. :D

150aintenuff
04-30-2006, 09:21 PM
yer to low cougar.. pull up cougar.. more power cougar give it some more power....... follow the lines of da movie... maverick will show you the way