Evenirude E Tec Outboards Looking for feed back

[Dilligas]

Hello every body,


I am seriously considering repowering my 36 contender with a pair of 250 E Tecs by Evinrude. I am sold on the motor and it's low maintenence schegule. I am concerned that because it's a new motor that has not been out long enough to be considered a reliable for long term use and is if the new Bomberdier company is going to stand behind their product if it does have problems, etc.

Currently running triple Yam 250's EX series.

If any of the experts, current owners, or dealers out there could give me some feed back on the E Tecs that would be great.

[Scream And Fly]

From my experience, the E-Tec engines are a good platform - very refined and people report great initial results from them. My suggestion is to consider what your overall goals for the boat are and see about getting some demo rides on boats with E-Tecs and OptiMax engines (if you're set on 2-stroke DFI).

Also, the Verado is definitely worth a closer look, too.

Greg

[Stinky]

Hello every body,


I am seriously considering repowering my 36 contender with a pair of 250 E Tecs by Evinrude. I am sold on the motor and it's low maintenence schegule. I am concerned that because it's a new motor that has not been out long enough to be considered a reliable for long term use and is if the new Bomberdier company is going to stand behind their product if it does have problems, etc.

Currently running triple Yam 250's EX series.

If any of the experts, current owners, or dealers out there could give me some feed back on the E Tecs that would be great.

http://bbcboards.zeroforum.com/zeroforum?id=51

You may want to read thru this forum. Sounds like theres still lots of little problems.

What sold you on the E-tech, not the infomercial I hope.

Three years with no schedualed maintainence, its the unshedualed that you worry about. (check link)

For power and fuel consumption, E-tech comes in third to the other DI players, if that matters to you.

Don't worry about the "new" motor problem. Its really just a Ficht with a lot of marketing.:rolleyes:

:D

[Scream And Fly]

I agree - that infomercial is advertising and nothing more. OptiMax would be my first choice.

[Action Dave]

Actually, the E-tec is very different from the Ficht from the injectors and computer all the way down to the actual block. I have worked on both. They are not the same. The ficht is garbage. So far E-tec has been getting good reviews, but it is still a new system.

[Lockjaw]

Be careful on that "other" board. If you get to negative about OMC, you will get hammered by one of the mod's. I don't troll there anymore because of him. If you want a true picture, ask here.

Personally, I would do Opti's first. They have been out longer, and are proven, and have always gotten better mileage in all of the fuel tests I have seen. With gas creeping up, and you wanting 2 motors, even .5 mpg better, multipled by 2 is a good savings over time.

My friend has a 225 opti on his bassboat, and it is a nice engine, it pushes his boat to 82 on GPS, which is stroking for a 21 footer. He says it gets good gas mileage too.

[Stinky]

Actually, the E-tec is very different from the Ficht from the injectors and computer all the way down to the actual block. I have worked on both. They are not the same. The ficht is garbage. So far E-tec has been getting good reviews, but it is still a new system.

Merc has changed injectors, computers, block, etc, but its still an Opti.

What is the "New Technology" of an E-tech.

They are already playing with the defector pins on E-tech, just like they did on the Ficht. Wheres the difference?

:D

[RBT]

the original Opti's were bombs also, if one made it past 100 hours it was a miracle. The fact that the Fichts were worse and had a coast guard warning about potential fires gave them a worse name. Neither were that bad, neither were perfect.
The new E-Tec is totally different. There have been a few failures, mostly in the v-6's piston related, but BRP stands behind there product and fixes it quick. That being said there have been some Verado kabooms here this spring too.
The opti is the most refined, the E-tec is better technology. Drive them both and choose.

RT

[us1ss]

You have a SKA style boat and you need advice from people who use the boat as you do. It seems as going from triple Yamaha to twins of anything might disappoint in some ways. It is much less expensive to run twins rather than trips though.
I have heard nothing bad about e-tec for your application. Opti's have been out a long time and they do have a reputation, you might want to check with someone that works on lots of SKA boats to find out what it is along with the Verado's. River Marine would be a good place to start for opinions on your application regarding Brunswick.
E-tec isn't on that many SKA boats yet but there are lots of Yamaha and Merc. If you could see through the guys on motor Programs and get to the guys that actually pay up front for their stuff and get their opinions, that would be getting closer to the real truth and not the marketing hype. The other thing to factor in on the Kingfish circuit is contingency money for running different motors and boats, this factors in bigtime as to what people are running. It isn't about being a diehard Merc or Evinrude guy anymore, in a lot of cases it is about the money!

[Action Dave]

The entire "brain" that controls the fuel injection system is completely different. The older was designed in Germany. The newer is more closely related to what OMC was going to originally use on its original DFI motor. They went with Ficht, they went out of buisness. The brackets that used to come on the injectors on the old fichts were faulty causing fuel leaks that led to fires. I personally changed dozens of injector brackets when those motors were recalled in 2000. Also the opti is a great DFI motor but it had serious problems when it was first released. Just because you favor a certain brand does not mean that everything they touch is golden. I personally would suggest comparing all the brands and seeing which suits your needs before making a purchase.

[JAYROCK]

What is wrong with the yamahas? They may not out run the merc but they will get you home.

[Stinky]

The new E-Tec is totally different.

the E-tec is better technology.


Please explain these statements. All I ever hear is "better", "new", etc. But no one has every stated why or how.

Thanks

:)

[AwesomeBullet]

I guess with all that being said, I'll be the nay-sayer.....I purchased a 225HO Etec about 3 weeks ago. Had it out 5 times so far, and it is everything I expected it to be. Very quiet, it just sips the oil, so far I am getting between 4 and 5mpg depending on where my foot is :D, and the best part was I got it while the 7yr warranty promo was going on, so my azz is covered until March 2013.:eek: Absolutely no complaints from me on the rig.

Did I mention no break in? I spun mine to 5000 on the first outing, and just tonight took it up as high as it would spin (5500) without having done any setup or prop work yet. I think I have about 5 hrs on it at this point.

[Dilligas]

I did not know the E Tec was third to the other DI's. Who arethe top two? Economy and reliability is very important to me I run long distances.

Thanks!


You may want to read thru this forum. Sounds like theres still lots of little problems.

What sold you on the E-tech, not the infomercial I hope.

Three years with no schedualed maintainence, its the unshedualed that you worry about. (check link)

For power and fuel consumption, E-tech comes in third to the other DI players, if that matters to you.

Don't worry about the "new" motor problem. Its really just a Ficht with a lot of marketing.:rolleyes:

:D[/QUOTE]

[David]

Ficht used solenoid technology in the injectors.
Etec uses speaker technology. Faster response with better control.
Higher potential rpm, but this has yet to be seen in production motors.

The original Bass & Walleye review of the 225 Etec says that they richened the mixture up a bit compared to Ficht to lengthen engine life. This may explain the decrease in fuel economy.

It would take a lot of fuel savings to pay for 2 new motors.

[Scream And Fly]

The Etec has more potential...


I'm curious about that statement... Please clarify.

-- Greg

[Lockjaw]

By better, I think they mean less moving parts. Less moving parts mean less stuff to break.

[The Big Al]

http://media.putfile.com/evinrude-kick

The problem with the add, there is no 4stoke in it's class.

But there are pleanty of ass kicking 2 stroke's in front of it! That are in it's class!

[The Big Al]

Safety Recall - Evinrude E-TEC Tiller Kits

A recall has been issued for certain tiller kits installed on Evinrude E-Tec outboards.
BRP US Inc. in the United States and Bombardier Recreational Products Inc. in Canada are conducting a voluntary safety recall of Tiller Kits installed on 40, 50, 60, 65 (Jet), 75 and 90HP Evinrude E-TEC outboards.
What is the problem?
The tiller handle may have been improperly assembled at the factory. The inner steering handle may not be seated, and retaining screw may not be correctly installed. The throttle twist grip can come loose or pull out of the tiller arm assembly, cause a loss of throttle and steering control.
A loss of boat control or diminished boat control could cause a risk of personal injury to the operator, passengers and people who are nearby.
What should you do?
If you own an Evinrude outboard, please contact your authorized Envinrude/Johnson dealer to schedule a service appointment immediately.
For your safety, please do not attempt to start or use the affected product until and authorized Evinrude/Johnson dealer has completed the necessary inspection and repairs.
To contact your nearest authorized Evinrude or Johnson dealer, please visit www.evinrude.com (http://www.evinrude.com/) or www.johnson.com (http://www.johnson.com/) or, by phone, at (877) 469-7433. If you have sold your outboard, please notify the purchaser of this recall.

[The Big Al]

http://bbcboards.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=103360

[Stinky]

The brackets that used to come on the injectors on the old fichts were faulty causing fuel leaks that led to fires. I personally changed dozens of injector brackets when those motors were recalled in 2000

From the BBC board.--

An E-tech

Poor gal....I turned the key on last night to see how much fuel was left in the tank and instantly smelled raw fuel. Looked and gas was coming out of the cowl pans and leaking on the ground. Dropped it off at my dealer this am, no appointment, and they had a lot full of broken boats. I called them at 7:50 (they open at 8:00) to let them know why my rig was there. At 8:20 they called and said it was done, come pick it up. Great service! Turns out a bolt that holds the fuel lines into the injector (top injector starboard side) had come loose and let the lines work out a bit. They took all the hold down bolts out (every injector) and put loc-tite on all of them, then re-torqued the bolts. Took her to the lake, no problems at all. First time I've ever got out of my dealer for free....

Yea, E-tech is different than Ficht.:rolleyes:

[Stinky]

I did not know the E Tec was third to the other DI's. Who arethe top two? Economy and reliability is very important to me I run long distances.

:D[/QUOTE]

In every independent test I've seen, in fuel economy, Merc #1, Yamaha #2,
E-tech #3.

[Stinky]

Ficht used solenoid technology in the injectors.
Etec uses speaker technology.

Alexander Graham Bell invented the speaker coil in 1876. BRP hails it as new tecnology in 2005.:confused: :) :rolleyes:

Sorry
:D

[RBT]

The current e-tec technology is capable of supporting over 8o hp per cylinder, and is stable to over 10000 rpm. No other DI system can approach this. It is our best hope for clean hi-performance motors.

RT

[YELLOWXD]

How soon we forget the past and OMC and how so many got screwed!!!!!!!!!!!
The hell with an Evinrude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Lockjaw]

I also do not like their statement "Factory tuned for high performance" Just what the heck does that mean?

[MX-14]

My Etec has been great. It is as advertised...oil consumtion is low as is fuel consumption. It has a ton of Torque and runs great. I had to bring it in to get a fuel spray deflector update because the plugs were going fast with the original configuration. I have a 225 and it pushes my 21 Paramount 64 on GPS.

[Stinky]

The current e-tec technology is capable of supporting over 8o hp per cylinder, and is stable to over 10000 rpm. No other DI system can approach this. It is our best hope for clean hi-performance motors.

RT

Hate to burst you bubble. The Merc PCM can run 12,000+ RPM. Big deal.

The limiting factor in DI motors is NOT the computer or the injectors.

It is the time it takes to scavenge the deep combustion bowls needed to contain the fuel charge to meet emissions. Nothing more.

Oh, an Opti technology motor won The 24 hours of Rouen turning near 8000 RPM. Wheres E-tech.

"capable of supporting" is a marketing term.:cool:

Nice try though.

:D

[RBT]

My bubble isn't burst, the INJECTORS are capable of 10000 rpm and 80 hp per hole, or 480hp on a current v6.
The OPTI injector IS rpm limited. Mainly by the compressor, but you also need to have control. With the E-Tec, you have the ability to push and pull, this creates stability that no other system has.

RT

BTW, I have 6 mercs and no e-tecs

[Dilligas]

All this feed back has been great! I am a little over whelmed. I have not looked into a Merc DI yet. Has this motor been around for a while? realiable motor? Is it cheeper than others 2 strokes?

Thanks
Robbie




Hate to burst you bubble. The Merc PCM can run 12,000+ RPM. Big deal.

The limiting factor in DI motors is NOT the computer or the injectors.

It is the time it takes to scavenge the deep combustion bowls needed to contain the fuel charge to meet emissions. Nothing more.

Oh, an Opti technology motor won The 24 hours of Rouen turning near 8000 RPM. Wheres E-tech.

"capable of supporting" is a marketing term.:cool:

Nice try though.

:D[/QUOTE]

[msm]

Alexander Graham Bell invented the speaker coil in 1876. BRP hails it as new tecnology in 2005.:confused: :) :rolleyes:

Sorry
:D


And Francis Roots patented the first supercharger in 1860, so Mercury's using 146 year old "technology" in the Verado. LOL! :D :D :D

[JPQ]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D

[mike bryan]

from what i remember reading the ficht and e-tec technology is quite different. the injector on the ficht only acted in one direction and was spring loaded in the other direction. the etec system uses electrical pulses in both directions in the injector and cycles much more often per second.

[1BadAction]

As Rob beat me to saying,
The current e-tec technology is capable of supporting over 8o hp per cylinder, and is stable to over 10000 rpm. No other DI system can approach this. It is our best hope for clean hi-performance motors.

Show me one of your beloved black motors that have the potential for that kind of development. Sorry but some of us don't want to run 1976 technology forever...
yea right, they cant even get them to turn more than 6000, let alone 10. my ECU and injectors in my car are capable of 10000 rpm too, but that doesnt mean the engine could spin that :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:



God man, I would hope that if I spent close to $20,000 on a new optimax it would last for at least 24 hours at 8,000 RPM. So what are you trying to get at? That an Opti will last for a day at 8,000rpm? I know of several yamaha motors (and some used to be mine) that have had the living **** beat out of them and are still going strong. There is a big Yamaha that was owned by the boys from Gordon Bay Marine when they were younger that they ran the living crap out of, full throttle all the time for years. Probably put hundreds of hours on it. They sold it to a guy running a barge and its still running today. If you don't believe me come and check out the motor for yourself.

ok, so you compare the winner of one of the toughest boat races in the world to a 5000 rpm barge motor :rolleyes: wheres all the DI motor wins from yami or BRP? or does being "capable" count more than ACTUALLY doing it. :rolleyes:

BTW, if yamaha and BRP are so great, where are their high perf DI motors? and not the ones in you and RBTs little diluded jack off dream world, I want real motors that actually exist.


Wow, so mercury replaced 1976 technology with 1860 technology....

better than any other 4 stroke motors. I thought you and RBT said they were too complicated and hard to work on!? so you guys cant understand 1860s technology? blah hahahaha

[RBT]

Your car has injectors that inject fuel just like a 2.5 260/280/drag. Don't be so stupid, you know better than to make that comparison.
Ibad, you haven't even mounted your motor yet, how many have you built?..... and we are talking simple 2.5's.

As for technology, your gods at merc cannot even figure out 1860 technology as in the last 2 weeks 3 verados have blown up and all were supercharger failures...... followed closely by the rest of the motor.

I am not blind, I have no brand loyalty. I will run what is the best for my application, and that is still the old 2.5 and mod 2.5's.

RT

[mike bryan]

actually an evinrude finished 2nd in the s3000 class at rouen in 05 running against the s3000 mercs. i have heard this was an e-tec type engine.

[1BadAction]

As for technology, your gods at merc cannot even figure out 1860 technology as in the last 2 weeks 3 verados have blown up and all were supercharger failures...... followed closely by the rest of the motor.



superchargers breaking, another pipe dream. superchargers DO NOT, just "fail". hundreds of THOUSANDS of eatons and Lysholmes are on FACTORY cars and trucks, with no head unit or supercharger failures. post pics and show the broken part, untill then its just BS.

[RBT]

100% DUMB

call 1-905-775-0862. Top Gun Marine...... HUGE bass boat dealer and ask him.

Owners name is Paul.

RT
edit wrong number... now correct

[1BadAction]

Rob and I aren't the ones in our little "diluted jack-off world." Last time I checked we actually have boats that are together and running. How about you stop playing internet expert and go finish your 100 year boat project. That motor of yours will seize before you get the chance to run it.

And I don't know about his jacking off stuff but we both got girlfriends so you must be the one jacking off at the though of one day using your boat.

ah hahahaha, so wheres the BRP high perf motors? none of your personal attacks that do not pertain to this.

[Markus]

actually an evinrude finished 2nd in the s3000 class at rouen in 05 running against the s3000 mercs. i have heard this was an e-tec type engine.

I was at Rouen in 2005. There were no etecs. We even went to the pit and asked the guys running the Rudes to make sure.

Those Rudes did run good, though.

[Markus]

Also, Dilligas, don't forget to check out Yamaha HPDI.

They have worse fuel economy at low RPM than Optimax and eTec, but they have worked since the day they were launched. And Yamaha clearly has the strongest track record of building reliable V6 two-stroke engines.

[mike bryan]

markus, i could very well be wrong. i had been told the tream RMSN entry was an e-tec motor.

[RBT]

love the Yamaha, I have a buddy that has one with just a hair over 700 hours and the leakdown is still 6%. Truly impressed. Seems to run like the day he got it, had had a lower unit failure, but he runs a surfacing prop so I suppose that is to be expected.

RT

[1BadAction]

Ok you want BRP? How about this? When you 1976 technology 280 is blown up and needing thousands of dollars worth of pistons and internal parts to make it work, the 250 Etec will still be running with no work needed. Is that good enough for you?
ALL 5800 rpm of it!! yay :rolleyes:

[Ziemer]

verados have blown up and all were supercharger failures...... followed closely by the rest of the motor.


How does a failed supercharger lead to an engine failure? Wouldn't it just make the engine run more rich?

(I drove my "Factory" supercharged Pontiac around for about 1 day until I realized the S.C. belt was broken. :eek: )

[RBT]

swallowed the broken parts

[1BadAction]

A lot more RPM than your motor is turning on its stand. I guess at 0 RPM that 280 will outlast a running bombardier.

finished that temper tantrum yet? :rolleyes:

[1BadAction]

swallowed the broken parts
how!? theres only 2 screws in the intake tract and unless their is a bearing failure (which merc doesnt make bearings anyhow) they arent going to get together hard enough to spit parts into the engine...

this story reaks more and more of BS the more you tell.

edit- if they did spit hard parts theres no way in hell they are going to get through the intercooler assembly...

[RBT]

1 BS...... hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I know you have trouble with reality, so you substitute your own to suit your needs. But the facts are not even the gods at merc build perfect motors. I have seen brand new 2.5's just like yours not make it 10 minutes ( good luck BTW ). Reality is every engine mfg will have failures, I know it is tough for you to swallow this in your delusional alternative reality but thems are the facts, no BS

If you don't piss me off further, I may even stop buy on friday night and snap some photos, that ought to toss your reality in to a state of turmoil and you just might have to try using ours.... it isn't so bad.

RT

[CDave]

how!? theres only 2 screws in the intake tract and unless their is a bearing failure (which merc doesnt make bearings anyhow) they arent going to get together hard enough to spit parts into the engine...

this story reaks more and more of BS the more you tell.

edit- if they did spit hard parts theres no way in hell they are going to get through the intercooler assembly...


Most superchargers are reliable but anything mechanical will break.
I've worked on several broken screw compressors. End play is the big culpret on them.

[Scream And Fly]

As Rob beat me to saying,
The current e-tec technology is capable of supporting over 8o hp per cylinder, and is stable to over 10000 rpm. No other DI system can approach this. It is our best hope for clean hi-performance motors.

Again - please clarify. You're just making statements without backing any of it up with solid facts. I would like to know exactly where you got this information from.

Also, let's keep personal attacks off this forum please.

-- Greg

[The Big Al]

http://www.bassandwalleyeboats.com/output.cfm?id=1059625

Only time will tell what engine is better.

And compairing the E-Tec to the 4 stroke is stupid.

[The Big Al]

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=102796&d=1140755746

[1BadAction]

regardless... Id love to see the pics of the blown up supercharger that sent parts through the water to air intercooler (that has a bunch of small passages, btw) and UP the intake tract. that would be a treat.

[The Big Al]

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101640&page=2&highlight=Mercury+flyer

It's a good fight, and i do hope E-Tec keeps going, this will do nothing more than make Mercury step it up!

Always good for business.

When Evenrude had it's problems i can remember the Optipop days!!!!!

[1BadAction]

Most superchargers are reliable but anything mechanical will break.
I've worked on several broken screw compressors. End play is the big culpret on them.

I agree 100%... but the above mentioned scenerio is highly dubious. not saying the Verados didnt break, but theres no way they broke like that.

neato. http://web.continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/003011.html

http://www.thenextbite.com/forum/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=10&Topic=2968

[JPQ]

They're not the only ones hearing about the Verado supercharger failing, there was a 275 with less than 150hrs that had a similar problem and had to replace the supercharger last month! I've already brought this up! I'm kinda curious to the hours of the other verado failures??:rolleyes:

[Over-Easy]

We've sent out no less than 50 E-Tecs. Most bieng the smaller sized models, however, we have sold a few of the 200 plus E-Tecs and have had no major issues. We've had t oupdate some mapping and a couple of leaking oil tanks on the inline 2 and 3 cyl ones. But, on the whole, I've been VERY pleased at how well they've run. The only other motor I'd buy new would be a Yamaha.

[Stinky]

actually an evinrude finished 2nd in the s3000 class at rouen in 05 running against the s3000 mercs. i have heard this was an e-tec type engine.

No it was not an E-tech, just an old carberated v-6. An independant team showed up to race with an E-tech. BRP said no way.

Theres confidence for you.;)

:)

[Stinky]

My bubble isn't burst, the INJECTORS are capable of 10000 rpm and 80 hp per hole, or 480hp on a current v6.
The OPTI injector IS rpm limited. Mainly by the compressor, but you also need to have control. With the E-Tec, you have the ability to push and pull, this creates stability that no other system has.

RT

BTW, I have 6 mercs and no e-tecs


Control of the fueling is very important in a DI

Lets see, Merc has start of air injection, end of air injection, start of fuel injection, end of fuel injection, and a fuel to air delay setting.

E-tech has a push and a pull.

WOW.

"no other system has" Huh:confused:

:)

[Stinky]

If any of the experts, current owners, or dealers out there could give me some feed back on the E Tecs that would be great.

Have we answered any of your questions yet???:D :D :D

[RBT]

Stinky, don't you think you are a little biased?

RT

[The Pale Rider]

Stinky, don't you think you are a little biased?

RT


hes the only one posting real information. you and inline-six have yet to post any real specifics to back up your claims. and a lot of what your posting looks biased as a result. inlinesix says on another post "if you want a performance motor get a BRP." LOL! what performance motor do they make???

[mike bryan]

i think it just comes down to brand preference. i wouldn't be too scared of the e-tec i think they have a 6 year warranty.


stand corrected website says 3 year warranty.

[Stinky]

Stinky, don't you think you are a little biased?

RT

Nah, not me, why would you say that?:rolleyes: :D

Don't get me wrong. I like what they did with E-tec. The NVH on that piece is truly amazing. I just don't like the claims that aren't true. If they would just stick to the facts, instead of the "woulda, shoulda, coulda", I'd be fine.

:D

[Riverratt]

I just have a problem putting any credibility into anything coming from someone named "stinky":D

[Dilligas]

What about Torch's big Yamaha on his ski boat? That thing must have a million and a half hours on it.

Thanks- is it a HP DI or Four stroke?

[FrenchPhil]

BTW the Etec WILL be running in Rouen THIS year. :cool:
Finally some competition for the Optis !!!

[Stinky]

Your right. This should be good.:cool:

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24 TEAM LOUTZ
Loutz Aurélien, Sirantoine Cyrille, Paul Philippe (F F F) mercury epa
hulley 2
25 OLYMPIC TEAM ROUENNAIS
Del Castillo Christian, Coupard Franck Emmanuel, Héricher Marie-Line, Héricher Albert (F F F F) mercury
dac 2
27 SPEED PIPE
Charlot Pierre, Colombelli William, Nordio Pierre Luigi (F SM I) mercury epa
dac 2
31 C M N
Bons Didier, Brisot François, Gaultier Jérôme, Lefebvre Franck (F F F F) mercury epa
burgess 2
32 NAVIKART
Lemoine Sébastien, Doublet Eric, Bourdin Tony, Lemoine Stéphane (F F F F) mercury epa
moore 2
33 IXE TEAM
Roguez Frédéric, Roguez Yves, Stromoy Marit, Jelf Colllin (F F N GB) mercury epa
dac 2
34 NEPTUNE INSHORE
Saclier Thierry, Letheule Sylvain, Drouet Christophe (F F F) mercury
seebold 2
35 TEAM CAROLINE
Ducellier Sébastien, Piot Christophe, Arrivé Christophe, Ducellier Vincent (F F F F) mercury
dac 2
37 C M N
Bellou Vincent, Michel Régis, François Armel, Levoir Jean Claude (F F F F) mercury
moore 2
39 TEAM CONQUÉRANT
Bagot Frédéric, Boutrais Philippe, Daiily Alain (F F F) mercury epa
moore 2
111 CMN
Langlois Christian, Bersoult Vincent, Félicité Jean François, Maillard Manu (F F F F) honda epa
azicat 1
44 IXE TEAM
Bourgeot Alexandre, Bourgeot Nicolas, Poulain Christophe, Chevalier Laurent (F F F F) yamaha
burgess 1
45 TEAM CAROLINE
Gibeaux Rudolph, Lepeltier Jean Michel, Menuisement Patrick, Thieulent Franck (F F F F) yamaha
gardin 1
49 WRB
Talent Frédéric, Dron Cyrille, Ruffin Alexandre (F F F ) yamaha
demante 1
50 V S I RACING
Thommerel Richard, Rocquigny Olivier, Fouquet Guillaume, Blessel Guillaume (F F F F) yamaha
Burgess 1
52 OLYMPIC TEAM ROUENNAIS
Polasek Otto, Jung Marian, Pinson Fr Xavier, Delafenetre Jean Michel (Svk Svk F F) yamaha
polasek 1
55 SUN RACING TEAM
Demarais Marie Chr, Alcinella Maurice, Boutrais Yohann, Octau Stéphane (F F F F) yamaha
moore 1
64 TEAM TOUAX PERFORMANCE
Autard Marie Laure, Ottman Nicolas, Lecomte Philippe, Massy Guillaume (F F F F) yamaha
demante 1
65 TEAM PRIVILÈGE
Jultier Sébastien, Lefevre Bertrand, Dubaillay Vincent, Moreau Brice (F F F F) yamaha
hulley 1
66 DRAKKAR INSHORE
Le Roux Chryslain, Lefevre Dominique, Devesgne Emmanuel, Bequet Stéphanie (F F F F) mercury epa
moore 1
69 SOFT ESIGELEC
Camper David, Daudigny Kevin, Phalippou Jules, Doussot Benjamin (F F F F) yamaha
demante 1
72 NORBERT RACING TEAM
Leroux Bertrand, Guibert Stéphane, Charge Jean Yves, Leroux Frédéric (F F F F) yamaha
hulley 1
77 TEAM VALLÉE DE SEINE
Feyt Jean Marc, Letellier Olivier, Maurizot Karin, Angot Morgan (F F F F) yamaha
hulley 1
88 IXE TEAM
Masters John, Pudifoot John, Shulver Brian, Williams Mark (GBGBGBGB) yamaha
timcat 1

[The Big Al]

Sorry but some of us don't want to run 1976 technology forever...

Well, that 1976 technology is still kicking ass today!

And Evinrude has had 30 years to catch up!

And guess what! Your view has not changed!

And talk about new technology, Every other engine manufacture, even Suzuki, Yamaha, Mercury, and even Tohotsu has gone to 4-stroke.

But Evinrude is still hanging on to 50yr outboard technology? 2-STOKE

[Dilligas]

Have we answered any of your questions yet???:D :D :D


Yea- I feel pretty ignorent and I am still a bit confused. I have learned alot from all of you guys. I have alot more to learn though. I will look more into the Yam HPDI and The Merc OPTI. Thanks!