I will sell these molds.. yes the one that build a STV-like boat

[Raceboat Rus]

Boat Molds For Sale. These are new molds used less than 10 times. These mold build a boat that could be best described as being very similar to an STV River Rocket. I have a very nice boat built from these molds for you to see call me Rus Matos 407 299 2427 E-mail raceboat@compaq.net I need a new motor for my boat lets talk money or a trade

[Raceman]

I feel the earth tremblin' under my feet. The sky is darkening. I can see the clouds swirlin'. Yep, a storm's a brewin'.

[TUG]

I think it fixin tu start hailing bullets:D
I saw on the news last nite that tropical storm Val is churnin up sum big waves.... Better get out of town before the big wave crashes:eek: .....or would dat be splashes:D

Russ.... any way i could see a pic of your boat, e-mail it to me please, thanks TUG

[BK]

Hey Tug,

In case you didn't notice, we dropped this subject a long time ago. Some others keep making it resurface again on other threads, for fun or whatever, but not us.

[jesel]

Val I would like to THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR INPUT, it is a real pleasure to have you here with your VAST KNOWLEDGE. I believe I am speeking for a large SILENT MAJORITY. Thank You

[TUG]

Gus pokin atyu;) :p

[ShipBear]

Wouldn't saying .....

I will sell these molds.. yes the one that build a STV-like boat ..

Just mean..LIKE a stv....?? more so then a V bottom..?
Maybe not any where near a splash..?

My hull is closer to a STV then looking like a HydroSports.. But really not like any of them.. Just closer to a stv..BUT no way could it be taken for an STV..

Would be nice if Raceboat Rus could post some pictures..
That would solve a BIG problem befor it even started..!!

Later Larry

[captcarb]

There are a couple of pictures of it on the Toys for Tots picture threads.

Jim

[BK]

Thanks for your post, Jesel.
That was nice of you and much and appreciated.
;)

[TUG]

Toys for Tots pictures?? Thanks TUG

[Raceboat Rus]

I used this mold to build a boat for myself :with my own effords my own mold my own materials my own paid experts , to build a boat for my own use. and have seen that all this contraversie is just to pain full to listen to any longer. I will see if all those purest that think this scandel is so inportant , can put up or shut up. If they think it is so inportant Buy the molds and haul them to the dump yourself. or party together and buy the mold to celebrate your Ideal with a giant bond fire..let thee celebrate as the slash devil burns.
or you could be ambitious and build your own boat. you can still do that in this country. I think

[Raceboat Rus]

I will send pictures soon but there were tons of pictures from the Toys for Tots event Dec, 10, 2001: and in there included several pictures of the boat built. can RickRacer Or skip please post the pictures for me till I can get a scaner or some thing

[TUG]

I like splash devils:D
Now is there any way i could see a pic of your boat, Thanks TUG

[captcarb]

I found this one with a general discussion search using the key words toys for tots. I think there may be more. I saw the boat and as I remember it has the inverted vee bottom that goes all the way to the bow.

http://forums.screamandfly.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=38748

Jim

[Rickracer]

:cool:

[WILDMAN]

Russ, if you get up some motor money, I've still got some new 2001 Johnson 225HO's for $8995. I talked to an OMC factory rep last week who had one on his own mirage. 104 mph with one person, 100 with two! Let me know. It,s not a Merc, but 6K cheaper!

[action17]

come on russ do it make me proud you can be one of the few kicing some merc butt!!!!

[Liqui-Fly]

Dat ain't a bad lookin mota for a Johnson and the price is phenominal. What's the weighton one of those.
David

[WILDMAN]

450 lbs, 3 liter, 6700 rpm rev=limiter, 247 propshaft hp, just unplug the limiter, and it will run up to 8000 rpm! How many do ya need?

[Liqui-Fly]

Bought the 2.5 this fall I'd be all over dat like stick on chit. Maybe I'll run it by my old man. Does it come with controls or jist da mota?
David

[WILDMAN]

Just motor, all different length harness's available, or just swap me for that 2.5! HeHeHeHe

[Liqui-Fly]

It's a '94; still wanna do it?
David

[WILDMAN]

Nah! I gotta put new motors on these Liberators I'm selling.

[Raceboat Rus]

It is most similar to the river rocket, It has the symetrical invert bottom it is said that this desighn get up on the water faster. the molds have a high polish and there has been no problems with the molds [with stcking cracking or pulling] the parts have slid out great with out problem ,with a great shine. since the bargin price from the wildman for his liberator boat of comperable size is nearly $10000 dollar. I think this starting price would be fair for the mold. but what I need is the money to get a new 280 or one of those wildman motors give me a call 407 299 2427

[FastDragS3000]

Are these the molds you had built from a STV or are they the one's you bought from the guy in Jail who needed money and had splashed a STV..??

Hasn't Lightning(John) Boats built a few ' StV' Lightning Hot Sauce ' boats from these molds??

Just curious!!


You need to be on the other side of the Jail Bars you work at!!!

[Liqui-Fly]

A-hole that has to throw in her comments. Fast drag queen you are a woman aren't you?
David

[lightningpowerboats]

Rus give me a call tomorrow,lets talk about a trade for the molds,all our boats are pop's splash'es,any way ,don't think any of the pureists are going to come up with any money,the molds are at my shop anyway,you were nice anuff to rent them to me,maybe we can make a deal, i have a few motors around,i have big shoulders and can take the heat from the so called puriests,talk to you soon, John from lightning

[H2Onut]

You go lightning .....:D

[Raceboat Rus]

Fastdrag 300 the last time this subject came up. I told you that. I was not anonymous. And where I could be found and I invited all with questions to call to speak with me direct. I head nothing from you or anyone. I will do again now. Call me Rus Matos 407 2992427 or come by my house 5327 Goddard ave Orl Fla 32810. Fast Drag300 let us see you do the same. Don't worry a lot of people a lot more dangerous than you know were I live......... You win person; the molds are for sale. Maybe the strength of your convictions will motivate you to buy them and burn them to manifest your ideals. Buy them burn them at a bond fire to celebrate the great person you are and your great ideas. bond fire bond Fire Bond Fire BOND FIRE, I will buy the beer and dance with my wife around the fire.{sound like an Idea for radical boat reunion 2003}

Yes the mold did come from Alt-Mar marine in Miami, and yes one of the associates I heard got into some legal troubles, at least he had some guts. But what dose that have to do with me? I purchased the molds with a partner. Now I am the sole owner. Yes the mold are at lightning now with John[ted] as a favor I rented them to him to build two boats for some friends. So what is the point there?
Now to your comment. [I should be behind the bars were I work] I often am. It is part of the job as an officer; fastdrag what do you do for a living? Maybe I can make use of your services one day, or vice a versa.
Person I would rather be friends if you call me we can talk, heck I will even buy you lunch at race rock.
But if you want to continue to act the way you are acting you can stand in line with the 4597 slime balls I have to deal with every day. I will try to make time for you, please do not be offended but I am not yet impressed by you , but keep trying

[Instigator]

You dah man brudda, you dah man!
I think you know my opinion on the splashing issue, and it is purely that, my opinion.
You as a man I know and respect.
You don't back away from the issue, that takes guts!
I did like the name of your company :) and I'm sorry things did'nt work out for you like you had hoped.
But down where you live, there's plenty of other molds and opportunity to try again when the situation is improved.
I only have one question about the molds, CAN I BORROW THEM FOR A WEEKEND:eek:
P.S. I am moving Hell and High Water to have my Stream/FrankenRude done in time to tow down for you event in April. (If it's not we'll bring the Sonic and come any way)
I want to come down and learn from the master of these events in time to use what I learn at this years Rumble.
We will probably be camping though. Is there any descent places to camp close to Palatka??
Your friend, Gary 614-777-5885

[Raceboat Rus]

Come stay at my home when you are in the are it is a bit humble. but we would love to have you visit,,, yes we will cal

[action17]

i'm glad to see you doing what your doing russ dont let these idiots get to you!!!. you know damn well if there is anything i could ever do to help you i'm a phone call away!!!!;)

[FLMIRAGE]

RUS has the molds for sale,so if you are not going to buy them just let this subject lay. All of his intentions are positive. Since boat building didn't work out now he can focus on making the yearly events even better.

JUST REMEMBER IF EVERYONE BUYS AN ORIGINAL, THE SPLASH SUBJECT WILL GO AWAY!!!!!! :D :D :D

[jesel]

My sister just bought a new KIA , she told me how much money she saved.Oh yeah NOW try and sell it and tell me what a great deal you got, resale value? And what about going to the BANK for a loan it is a what? Your at the beach -- everyone is looking at your boat asking questions WHAT IS it welllllllllll-- you see---- just thoughts.

[lightningpowerboats]

Has anyone ever here the saying (If you don't have anything good to say,don't say anything)It works pretty good and nobody gets hurt or upset, Kinda makes since John from LIGHTNING

[jesel]

TRUTH HURTS

[Liqui-Fly]

Resale value of a Kia; what the hell are you talking about? How much did she pay for the Kia and how much will it sell for? Does a Chevy Cavalier hold it's value more than a Kia? What auto would you suggest Charles Schwab for a smart automotive investment blahahahahaha.
David

[TUG]

Jesel strikes me as a person who dont no nuttin about nuttin, He gus along for the ride ifyu know what i mean, probably doesnt even own a boat neither:D
His location "Earth" and his rig UFO sais it all ! HE"S LOST :( Poooooor little Jesel, dont worry Jesel .... one day you'll be able to afford one of them Splash Devils, for now thow ,you'll gus have to settle for a Dirt Devil or a Kia, (I'm assuming these are vacum cleaners) If you really save you can get an original "Kirby" for another $1000 but i have a Dirt Devil thats gus as good for 1/10th of the price, I even named it Merky :D :cool: Which one you want?;)

[jesel]

First of all a KIA is a car. You hit my point and not even know it. And as for resale valu BIG differance % wise. I own 2 business, I'm 47 so I guess I have a little back ground. My first Hydrostream was in 77 , first new one 78 then 79 then 82__________ First MVP race 82-----. Hey TUG come to the MT Pleasent ODBA race I want to talk to you in person, you can see a UFO, why don't you bring one of your boats and race me, in lake racer even the TUG will fit in.

[TUG]

Nice to know your atleast from Earth:D
As for lake racer, My STV is way to light but if'n yu want to bring yo ODBA ass down to du S.J.R. where der aint no rules and der aint no crybaby's gus let me know, I'll be there by June:D ;)

[Liqui-Fly]

Geez Jesebel imagine how much more your opinion would be worth if any of it were known to be true. I'm 108 and have been racing unlimited hydroplanes for 60 years and have 10 of the fastest boats in the world. Also was the first to develope nuclear powered outboards. So whatever.
David

[jesel]

Hey FLY --Truth is your still living at home with mom.RIGHT!----RIGHT. Anytime you don't like what some one says they are a GAY-or stupid whatever. Your name calling is VERY CHILDLIKE. I have been posting on this board for over four years and have seen many many GOOD people leave because of this type of behavior. I will not,I consider the source.

[Liqui-Fly]

I would have to disagree with you. Anonymous posters that say anything they want at any time are the problem. Search my posts and then search yours. You sound like a 10 year old with your one sentence comments that amount to nothing. Many people on this board know me personally and I do feel free to speak my opinion freely. Yet another who cannot answer simple questions...why don't you share why you choose to be anonymous and why you make derogitory about others. Atleast the people I've seen you make comments about have the sack to be open about themselves and the things that they do. You're just a 47 y/o coward. Let me guess; you've got too much to loose.
David

[B.Leonard]

If my Lund ever does sell (without giving it away) I will definitely be paying Lightning boats a visit! Way to go John, Ted whatever you name is! ;)

Russ! You're cool in my book.

Gary, you're comin down for Palatka!?! :):) Just pack a few more items and drop a change of address form at the local PO. You belong down here. :D

-BL

[Carbman]

Ok, I know who Jesel is. Sounds like he's blowin' some hot air. The UFO is an example of "If it don't run, CHROME IT!" What happened to the STV Jesel? I'm still waitin' for my spankin'! If you guys saw this "UFO" you would crap your pants laughing!

I'll take a vote- Who wants to know who Jesel is?:eek:

[Liqui-Fly]

I didn't mean to defame anyone but if he's been trash talkin and never produces well........chrome it.

David

[TUG]

I wuz gonna get whooped by a 1900lb lakeracer:D :rolleyes: CHROME IT !!!!:cool:

[Rude Johnny]

and so is you crack, pull your pants up.
The UFO could easily handle anything the San Jac has to offer.
Now shut up and go back to milkin the old ladys.

Johnny

[TUG]

Mr. No Nuts anonamous :o :rolleyes:
Bring dat UFO on down, I'll shoot it down foryu:cool:
I would ask you to bring yours too but since yu aint got no NUTS, you probly aint got no boat neither :D Besides my boat has a ODBA sticker on it so its got to be fast ;)

(Regarding intelligence) You gonna be at Jasper :eek: ;)
He He cyu buddy :p

:D

[jesel]

First of all it is intelligence. Tug. Hey Duane Tolly (Carbman)What is this about a STV I sold that to Bruce down your way 3 years ago ?Now owned by Andy Frost cape coral. I'M missing something here.I've tryed to call you please pick up 305 453 9265 is that still your #.I'll be posting pictures soon so you all get a good chuckle, I like happy people. By the way the top and bottom are new for 2002 so you don't know what it looks like. Last year I copyed the bat boat, because the old Sleekcraft had way too much bow lift, and I liked their reasoning behind their design. As Paul Freeman said I over accomplished my agenda, no lift at all. Soooo this year the pad is 1.25 inches wider and about 5/8 lower.My main impetuous is to design a SAFE high speed boat that can take on the real world, like big wakes, cross winds ect. . The reason Bruce bought the STV , he went throught the side of his Allison, along with his Wife, yeah they got messed up bad. I have nothing to hide jimmy j jesella 941 269 5359 ------ PS I was fliping the boat over between races and making changes putting back together no time to test (can't even test in collier county manatees)last year was my first time boat racing in 15 years give me a break,(and never in drags) at least till the end of this year OK. And if I say I'm going to kick your ass, It's all in FUN, because that is what this is ALL about. see you at the races

[action17]

jesel, butch is the guys name who bought your stv and yes andy frost does own it now!!

[TUG]

Feels real goooood dont it;) Relax man , gus pokin atyu:p
Rude Johnny is a friend of mine:cool:
He runs a slow boat in the ODBA too so your not alone:eek: :D

[Carbman]

Butch is the right name and I would have been right next to him when he wrecked, had it not been for the Water Nazi's!(Marine Patrol) His daughter was in the wreck too. I drove that boat a few times and it was setup poorly. He never really got the knack for driving it. Now he has an Allison SS.:eek:

[jesel]

Yeah and that SS Allison he got was WRECKED TWO times and fix by Andy Frost, just got away from them all three times is what I hear, you folks seam to know the facts. Well time to go out back and work on the COMEDY OF ERRORS da UFO. Mister DRAGONFLY is comming over the next day or two, too help me sand and sand and sand, he tell me this is the easy part, I would rather take out the saw cut it up and change something, I HATE this type of sanding DRAGONFLY has lots of mold making experance he is willing to share. PEACE

[Liqui-Fly]

I saw you work and I thought it was pretty impressive and interesting. I apologize for being rude to ya. But it seems like you of all people should have a different opinion on splashing. Your design seems to copy quite a few features of an innovative offshore design and uses a cut up Sleek. What if someone wanted one of your boats would you build them one?

David

[delawarerick]

Russ never have I thought but the best of you. I secretly was trying to afford one of your boats. Your boats seem to have a quality the likes of which Delaware has not seen. I hope someday to get to meet you guys down south. Hope you can make the rumble in Kentucky. Later Delawarerick

[ZZGRAFFIX]

Funny thing happened several months back. Had an email form a guy either in Fl or ALabama wanting some STV graphics including the "original Summerford hull" badging. Said he had a new one that came without the logo graphics on it. Now this just did not sound right. We have graphics on all of them that leave the shop.
Should have asked for a serial number (for the badging). I referred him to Mr. Lampkin and as far as I know, that was the end of that.