Never Wear A Hillary Clinton Mask Hunting With Cheney...

[Fish]

Cheney shot another dude while hunting...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: At least the other dude was an attorney;) ;) :p
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20060213/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_hunting_accident_8

[heath brinkley]

If you can't shoot Hillary, I guess the next best thing is a lawyer.:D :D

[Fish]

If you can't shoot Hillary, I guess the next best thing is a lawyer.:D :D

LOL. When you put it that way, the story kinda has a happy ending:D :D

[stokernick]

I guess he never learned any rifle safety when he was in the military,oh,I forgot,he was never in the military,shouldn't play with guns.

[CDave]

He just peppered they guy with bird shot while they were quail hunting, no big deal. I wonder if they got Dan or not. :D

It's still safer to go hunting with Cheney than riding in a car with Kennedy.

[STV Tunnel]

Dick, Bush, Colin.....


You make the joke from here.....

[pyro]

Huh-Huh, you said "Bush."
Huh-huh, you said "Dick."

[Fish]

He just peppered they guy with bird shot while they were quail hunting, no big deal. I wonder if they got Dan or not. :D

It's still safer to go hunting with Cheney than riding in a car with Kennedy.

LMAO!:D :D :D

[SUPERBASH]

A little birdshot never hurt anybody.http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/350/bash6kr.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[INXS]

They owe the clintons alot!:rolleyes: Along with agore, scarey, the swimmer, jerkson, deaneyact!:D Just poking a little fun but I think you can get the point! These guys made our country a one party system. It's really a shame that the dems only hope is someone like Lieberman. They can't even give him a fair chance though, let alone a JFK, FDR, or a Truman. I feel sorry for the dems that want to run from the center.

[triple dude]

Lieberman has about the same chance as McCain.:D

[stokernick]

Bash,I'm thinkin you must be a city slicker cuz a load of birdshot[especially at close range] is a mighty painful experience.It is a big deal!:eek:

[pyro]

huh-huh, huh-huh...

[SUPERBASH]

It's just a flesh wound !http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9463/bash1kq.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[INXS]

Lieberman has about the same chance as McCain.:D

Much less if you look at their results. The media "Loved Mc Cain" and advoided or treated Lieberman as a black sheep! Mc Cain did much better then Lieberman. Over all Mc Cain had a much better chance then Lieberman even though Mc Cain acted and looked like a nut at times. Not to mention that Lieberman could have beat Bush. scarey nearly beat Bush and he had to have been the dumist person I've seen run!

[CDave]

Lieberman is too dull to get elected.

Maybe the DNC will run Dean agian. http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/l/1/dean_kitten.jpg

[The Big Al]

What is the big deal?:confused:

He shot a lawyer!:rolleyes:

Ask me it was a hell of a good shot!!!:D

[STV Tunnel]

The Dick doesn't seem to be working right for the Bush anymore, and the Colin gave out years ago......


Sounds like ............

[triple dude]

Much less if you look at their results. The media "Loved Mc Cain" and advoided or treated Lieberman as a black sheep! Mc Cain did much better then Lieberman. Over all Mc Cain had a much better chance then Lieberman even though Mc Cain acted and looked like a nut at times. Not to mention that Lieberman could have beat Bush. scarey nearly beat Bush and he had to have been the dumist person I've seen run!
Lieberman just doesn't have the look/personality to carry a ticket as a front man. He really reminds me of the guy (Artie something) that used to be on laugh-In and was the preacher in Wedding Crashers. I'd debate that Gore was the "dumbest person I've seen run." But at least we know he's not the dumbest person that WON.:D

[Liqui-Fly]

Bash,I'm thinkin you must be a city slicker cuz a load of birdshot[especially at close range] is a mighty painful experience.It is a big deal!:eek:

Yeah cause you would know:rolleyes:

[stokernick]

there are some things you don't need to know.

[Liqui-Fly]

Yeah yeah yeah....we're listening.:D

[Dutch]

it said on the news today the guy had a minor heart
attack from bird shot going into his heart. i think
this is a little more than being peppered.

[Trikki1010]

What is the big deal?:confused:

He shot a lawyer!:rolleyes:

Ask me it was a hell of a good shot!!!:D


:eek: :eek:

I actually think a liberal would pull the trigger if he/she saw Hillary in the woods:D :D

[triple dude]

It'd take a LOT more than birdshot to take that fatass down.

[Lockjaw]

I think you have to be careful when you hunt. Yes the lawyer guy should have announced he was back with the party, but what would it have hurt for them to wait briefly for him to find his downed bird?

I have been hit by shot when dove hunting, and it gets your attention thats for sure, and that was indirect. I am sure a direct shot at 30 yards would be alot more painful, and likely to cause damage.

I am surprised that it was able to penetrate that deeply.

I also think the dem's will turn this in another watergate issue. How about giving the family time to be notified before the news media, there's a thought.

McCain sux, I wouldn't vote for him if he was the only candidate, I would write someone in. I was so sick of hearing Al's voice, and Kerry, he had a whole bunch of non-existant plans.

You know what I would really like, someone to get up there, and just cut costs. Get the government to actually spend less, and if there is a surplus, cut me a check.

[Hunter]

What's a little #7 between friends. It builds character. Pellet rain is a part of hunting. Sometimes, when it rains you pour.

[triple dude]

Speaking of pouring, there was talk on the radio about the incident and a guy called in and told the origin of the "shot glass." Years ago in England, when you hunted for dinner with a shotgun and took home the birds, while eating you had a glass by your plate that you spit the pellets into. Don't have a clue how alcohol got involved.

[STV Tunnel]

I have been hit by shot when dove hunting, and it gets your attention thats for sure, and that was indirect. I am sure a direct shot at 30 yards would be alot more painful, and likely to cause damage.


Yeah especially from a 28 gauge.

There is something else going on here besides a tight choke and a 78 years olds thin skin.

#7 1/2 would be hard pressed to knock over a lawn chair even out of a 12 gauge at 10 -15 feet unless it was fully choked.....mind you it would rip a bird to pieces and tear up skin badly, but this guy sounds like he got hit with more than just edge pattern spray.


I hope it is Bismuth for the old guys sake.....

[CDave]

I bet we won't hear Ted Kennedy commenting on this incident.

[Lockjaw]

#7 1/2 would be hard pressed to knock over a lawn chair even out of a 12 gauge at 10 -15 feet unless it was fully choked.....mind you it would rip a bird to pieces and tear up skin badly, but this guy sounds like he got hit with more than just edge pattern spray.


I hope it is Bismuth for the old guys sake.....

I don't know about that, I could cut pine tree's down with bird shot and a 12 gauge at 6 feet or so, we are talking 4 to 6 inches in diameter. Its just hard for me to believe that it would cut through a shirt and a bird vest (if he was wearing one) at 30 yards and then penetrate to the heart.

I think he was closer then 30 yards.

[INXS]

30 yards with a 28 gauge, I agree it wouldn't penatrate much. Maybe Condi will get a jump on 08.

[CDave]

Tour de France champion Greg Lemond still has turkey load around his heart from a hunting accident and he won the Tour de France with it in there.

Ya know I don't remember the press asking for Lemond's brother in law to resign from his job or complain about the time fram of the incident reporting.:rolleyes:

[STV Tunnel]

12 G bird load 2 3/4 or 3 inch shell fired from a 18 inch barrel no choke or wide choke shotgun won't knock over an aluminum frame nylon web lawnchair over at close range.

It will dent the tubing, move the chair around but it won't blast it off its feet.

Full choke, maybe. 00 Buckshot will bust it up good.

Concentrated repeated hits on a tree with small shot will eventually wear it away, but you aren't blasting 6 inch diameter trees down without many many hits unless they are rotten.

I have taken a few door hinges out with shotguns, and sawed down a few trees with chain guns before...I kinda know what it takes.

[STV Tunnel]

Funny thing is, close range, even a .410 revolver with only a 2 inch barrel will literally DESTROY a person with buck. I mean it has magnum shock transfer properties.

Take a .410 and make it small shot and move the person further away and if he is wearing a good thick leather jacket you have a totally different thing happening.

And on the Gregg LeMond thing....he was walking right next to the person when that discharge happened. I think his cousin or whoever it was was cradeling the gun and it went off right at him and it tore him apart. He was really really messed up.....he almost died. He was a mess for quite a while and it was a bigger gun.

[The Big Al]

Updated: 07:35 PM EST
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Man Shot by Cheney Back in Intensive Care
Whittington Suffers 'Silent Heart Attack' From Pellet
By LYNN BREZOSKY and NEDRA PICKLER, AP
CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (Feb. 14) - The 78-year-old lawyer wounded by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident suffered a mild heart attack Tuesday after a shotgun pellet in his chest traveled to his heart, hospital officials said.

And it had some kind of power to get to this guys heart!!!!:confused:

[The Big Al]

When is a heart attack for a 79 year old MILD?????:confused:

[Lockjaw]

It took me 3 shots to cut a tree down.

Thats with a choke though. We aren't talking about a guy out there with a riot shotgun, we are talking a choked 28 gauge, which I cannot believe is much more powerful then say a 410. My 410 is hard pressed to kill a dove at 30 yards, because you have to use 9 shot to get a decent pattern, even with a full choke. You should see me try to shoot skeet with it and 6 shot. Its not happening.

People who shoot a 28 gauge have silly money, and they have to be a halfway decent shot, or they are wasting their time and money. 28 gauge shells aren't cheap.

They won't charge him with manslaughter, its just a hunting accident. Nothing more nothing less. The lawyer contributed to it by not announcing his rejoining of the group.

[REBEL]

I just read they (dumb and dumber) were hunting illegal.No upland game permit.:rolleyes:

[STV Tunnel]

My 410 is hard pressed to kill a dove at 30 yards


exactly what I meant.....


3 shots to sawn in half a resiliant sappy pine tree is quite an amazing event.


If it is a dryed out rotten diseased tree I can see it.

[Wile E. Coyote]

Ohhh and here we go again, the libral left is crawling out of the woodwork: why didnt he report it to us sooner, why hasnt he said anything about it, was he drinking, oh hes a drunk, impeach him! what a steaming crock of crap.....HEY TEDDY, HOWS MARY JOE.....SHUT THE HELL UP YOU FAT BASTARD.....I'll tell ya all why he didnt say anything....EMBARASSMENT!!! Would any of you want the entire country knowing you f'd up on BASIC gun safety...(always be sure of your target) there are hundreds of hunting accidents each year many fatal, hardly any make the front page, Iran is becoming a nuclear power, Hamas has been elected to power in palestine, The price of gasoline is an abortion, A gozillion illegal immigrants cross our borders every day and THIS is what we focus on????? Gee no agenda in the media at all....the dems and the left are quivering with hate at this administration and they are sacraficing the security of this country in a vain attempt to regain their power.....hello!!!! you want to regain power? how bout coming up with A PLAN not just opposing everything this administration does? this president is gone in 2 years....then what excuse are ya gonna use?????

could you imagine ford and gm acting like the government in this country Ford: we have 10 new models coming out this year.....GM: the ceo of ford is a drunk, he's a liar, he's a loser, its a conspiracy: ford makes our cars suck....we havent even seen fords designs but we know they suck and would never work...never mind we have no new designs, just buy or 1960 models and we'll pretend theyre new.....seems we'd all be driving fords huh...

Sorry....had to vent....I'll be quiet now.....

[STV Tunnel]

Post above pretty much sums it up..........


Hey teddy how's mary jo......

[stokernick]

at least we're not focusing on the security leak with Libby,Karl Rove,etc.When did you ever go to lunch and have A BEER?And I guess the ''cocktail'' after the ''shot'' was just to celebrate his day!!How interesting this would be were it Clinton that did the shooting![did not kill her,just stained her dress!!!

[Fish]

...How interesting this would be were it Clinton that did the shooting...

why not ask the Fosters?:rolleyes:

[Trikki1010]

How interesting this would be were it Clinton that did the shooting![did not kill her,just stained her dress!!!

Cheney wasn't "hunting" the victim, or trying to eradicate his testimony:eek: :eek: :eek: :p



why not ask the Fosters?

The list is ALOT longer than that:eek: ;)

[jphii]

A little birdshot never hurt anybody.http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/350/bash6kr.gif (http://imageshack.us)

So true, but:

http://members.cox.net/jphii5/CheneyBumperSticker.jpg

[triple dude]

at least we're not focusing on the security leak with Libby,Karl Rove,etc.When did you ever go to lunch and have A BEER?And I guess the ''cocktail'' after the ''shot'' was just to celebrate his day!!How interesting this would be were it Clinton that did the shooting![did not kill her,just stained her dress!!!
An interesting tidbit that I only heard referred to once-=The folks that owned the ranch contributed $100K to the campaign and got a $100 million contract in Iraq. Not a bad return on the investment. Must be a Haliburton table scrap.:rolleyes:

[CDave]

srmccoy, I can tell ya never been quail hunting. Because YA NEVER LEAVE THE GROUP WITHOUT TELLING THE GROUP. That is unless ya wanna get shot. :eek:

The guy who got shot screwed up too. Could you imagine being in a field with a bunch of hunters going wherever they felt like?

[Raceman]

I haven't read much of this thread, but the utter arrogance, bias, and over reaction by the media is so typical. They'll do ANYTHING to take a swipe at any Republican or Conservative and even so, this is one of the biggest mountains out of a mole hill I ever saw.

What Cheney SHOULD HAVE DONE when those whinny bitch reporters (both male and female) started throwing a fit about NOT being notified as simply said the following and not responded further:

I was taking a day off. It was a private matter. I was acting within the law and no laws were broken (except a missing stamp on a hunting liscense). I have neither the obligation or desire to discuss what goes on in my private time with the media unless it's either illegal, immoral, or has an impact on national policy. In short, IT'S NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS and I WON'T DISCUSS IT.

[triple dude]

Why didn't Clinton think of that???;)

[Liqui-Fly]

at least we're not focusing on the security leak with Libby,Karl Rove,etc.When did you ever go to lunch and have A BEER?And I guess the ''cocktail'' after the ''shot'' was just to celebrate his day!!How interesting this would be were it Clinton that did the shooting![did not kill her,just stained her dress!!!

You must be speaking of the NSA security leak. You couldn't possibly be talking about the CIA desk jockey and her egomaniac husband...then again you probably are. Hey don't let the facts of the case get in the way or the definition of a covert op.

I guess innocent until proven guilty is only for Democrats. The guy accidentally shot his friend and the party of compassion is looking for blood. Perhaps Cheney should sue the gun manufacturer right DEMOCRATS!!

[Raceman]

Why didn't Clinton think of that???;)

Well.............. there's a little difference there. First, Clinton gettin' head (and a lot more than he probably admitted to) from Monica happened IN THE WHITEHOUSE and WITH a subordinate. I also believe that it did in fact impact national policy, because every time MonicaGate flared up in the media Clinton found some excuse to go fire a smart missle at some obscure site in Iraq to divert attention.

Now if Cheney had shot a 20 year old female Whitehouse intern, THEN the media and public may actually have a right to know, regardless of whether it'd been with a shotgun, or a short weapon like Clinton used.:D

[CDave]

:D

http://www.darksavior.net/~cajndave/cheney.jpg

[triple dude]

Well.............. there's a little difference there. First, Clinton gettin' head (and a lot more than he probably admitted to) from Monica happened IN THE WHITEHOUSE and WITH a subordinate. I also believe that it did in fact impact national policy, because every time MonicaGate flared up in the media Clinton found some excuse to go fire a smart missle at some obscure site in Iraq to divert attention.

Now if Cheney had shot a 20 year old female Whitehouse intern, THEN the media and public may actually have a right to know, regardless of whether it'd been with a shotgun, or a short weapon like Clinton used.:D
So like the realtors say,"It's all about location, location, location!";)

[Raceman]

So like the realtors say,"It's all about location, location, location!";)

Yep, combined with what you shoot em with.

[triple dude]

With hangin' with $100K campaign contributors, they should check Dick's shirt for peckertracks.:D

[Trikki1010]

With hangin' with $100K campaign contributors, they should check Dick's shirt for peckertracks.:D

At least he didn't leave with their silverware :eek: :eek:

[stokernick]

not yet,but he's still got time.;)

[Raceman]

..............when you ask Republicans to be accountable, your a bleeding heart liberal, do you think the "conservative right" would be "crawling out of the woodwork" if Hillary Clinton had shot someone last weekend and said "I'm sorry", "I was embarrassed" and there was no investigation?:eek:

Hmmmm, seems like I remember a news bleep of Hillary illegally entering a crime scene DURING the early stages of the investigation and alledgedly removing from that scene certain items and documents that may very well have been material to that investigation. Since this was a SUPPOSED suicide, that many people, including me believe was more likely a homicide that she was very possibly involved in, where in the hell was the investigation of that? Of course there was also virtually NO media reaction. Funny how a simple hunting accident, with absolutely NO possibility of pre meditation or conspiracy causes a week long continuous media frenzy, but a possible homicide and alleged illegal trespass into a crime scene involved just causes a slight hickup and quick silence.......................... but hey.......... the media is fair and unbiased, right?

[Wile E. Coyote]

Wile E., I hear yuh, and your absolutely right, only one problem: we are talking about the individual who helps shape the policy for our country and whose actions affect our lives, go tell the parents of the 2,271 American soldiers killed in Iraq that it "doesn't matter", we're still looking for weapons of mass destruction, when you ask Republicans to be accountable, your a bleeding heart liberal, do you think the "conservative right" would be "crawling out of the woodwork" if Hillary Clinton had shot someone last weekend and said "I'm sorry", "I was embarrassed" and there was no investigation?:eek:

[/I])


well most of (but not all of course) those parents believe in what their sons and daughters died for, though by most news accounts only cindy sheehan speaks the truth....the re-enlisment rate of our soldiers is higher than its ever been becuase THEY believe in what we're doing over there, the facts of the matter are this: fight them there or fight them here....

on weapons of mass destruction: ive said it before and i'll say it again, it was no secret he had them (he used them on his own people for cryin out loud) he said he had them, international intellegence agencys said they had them, and we gave them a ton of time to let them move them, (kinda like the cops calling a drug house 2 days before a raid and saying we're coming on tuesday, gee, what do ya think they'll find) and we DID find weapons of mass destruction, we have found mobile labs, we found (albeit neutralized or expired if you will) nerve gas, and we have found top iraqi nuclear scientists who have tesitfied that good ole saddam was waiting for the weapons inspections to cease so he could crank up his nuclear plan again, if you dont belive it read: THE BOMB IN MY GARDEN written by Mahoi Obeidi, pretty much sums it up BUT HEY you dont see any of THAT in the news do you...wonder why, when screaming "HE LIES" is so much fun....not to mention the courage it gives to the sons of bitches killing our boys over there, I personally wonder WHO is responsible for more american deaths, W or all the wonderful "freedom of speech" advocates decrying our involvment and all the "atrocities" we are perpetrating over there like gore, saying he betrayed this country, or kerry saying our soldiers are murdering women and children in the night, or good ole mirtha and all his crap, cause im sure al jezzerea has a field day with it... and if you dont think the enemy watches cnn and c-span......wonder how much sooner this would end if they werent constantly getting moral boosters from our own government and news....

NEVER in a time of war as one political party so seeked to undermine a president...is a shame....and more importantly to me its a crime and they should be held accountable....neet word accountable.....kinda works both ways dont it.....

[Liqui-Fly]

With hangin' with $100K campaign contributors, they should check Dick's shirt for peckertracks.:D


I hate to trouble you with facts yet again, but Democrats took way more money from lobbyists this year and they have less people in the House and Senate......so ahhh here is your sign:D

[triple dude]

I hate to trouble you with facts yet again, but Democrats took way more money from lobbyists this year and they have less people in the House and Senate......so ahhh here is your sign:D
Don't recall talkin' about a lobbyist? Or Dems or Repubs? Sounds like you're confused?

[Liqui-Fly]

Guessed my post wasn't nuanced enough for you....you were referring to contributions to Cheney.

[triple dude]

Guessed my post wasn't nuanced enough for you....you were referring to contributions to Cheney.
But as long as you mentioned lobbyists:p , they are about as big a threat to "the American way" (to paraphrase you) as there is. There was a pretty big article in todays paper about the Indian casino's and the money they throw around Washington. Appears the two parties are about tied in that respect and it's quite often those that preach social values that get the most. All the casino's have done is add some windfall monies to the State coffers that is soon pissed away with the rest.