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    this is a great read guys!!!!! very cool!!!!
    93 xr 2001 drag with a 15" drag
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    R.I.P. Phil "rpm racing" Watch over the rest of us my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercury nut View Post
    do you know what these cost new when produced or what amount they sell for
    http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2285...91848696NYpHQN
    check this out
    I have no idea what they cost new, but they're a lot rarer than people believe. I was told that there were only 8 or 10 complete engines ever built, but given the fact that the Texoma unlimited had 3 of em and the factory team ran em on a two or three boats, the number seems low. There was also the one that Jim Mertons lost his life trying to set a record with, and it's my understanding that that particular motor still exists.

    As far as value, it's a matter of what somebody will pay for a super rare collectible. If I was going to guess I would say 8 to 10 thousand for a complete one, but the gearcase is the problem. I have 3 of em and could use one more, but I've never heard of another one still existing except on the Merton engine. It would be relatively easy to adapt a #IV Speedmaster to one (cut and respline the driveshaft) since the bolt pattern at the bottom is the same, but it would take a IV that was set up for a right rotation input, since the T4 turned right while all of Merc's other champ length motors turned left. There are some right IV Speedmasters around, and it's possible to have a leftie converted.
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    Is that a little spaghetti sauce I see there?


    Quote Originally Posted by Raceman View Post
    Here's a picture of one of mine. The cowl pictured was since upgraded with F1 pictures, but at the time the picture was taken it was the best lookin' one I had so it's the one that got displayed since it was in my kitchen.

    http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...0&d=1036714022

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruster View Post
    Is that a little spaghetti sauce I see there?
    Naw........... just pore' photo quality or some kinda' reflection. I'd never waste spaghetti sauce like that.
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    I remember when I first saw that photo a few years ago of the t4 in the kitchen and thought this guy cant be married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRMERC View Post
    I remember when I first saw that photo a few years ago of the t4 in the kitchen and thought this guy cant be married.
    She's a sport. She's never even complained about having to park outside in rain, winter frost, blazing summer heat, etc, etc because of the non-runnin' car projects cloggin' the garage.
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    She is a Keeper

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    Well, Hurricane Sandy looped around to Cleveland and removed The Bridge Docks Clean! Its been renamed Rocky River Marina back a few years ago. The Apache (10 meter Warrior) has been out of the water but hopefully will be back in for 2013. I am going to remove the T4 and the EFI power heads and install two new 3.4 standard carb versions in hopes of better daily driver use. I do have a new 3.4 Black Max with a 30" mid, considering mounting that in the center and see how the boat performs with one engine. About 800 pounds off the rear might make it go pretty good. Then adding 1600 back on with a three engine set-up would be cool looker but might be a little heavy in the as....

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    Now its Christmas almost 2018 HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL! Apache undergoing renovation, new apholstery and some fresh EFI top ends.
    Last edited by rdmerhar; 12-25-2017 at 02:22 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Still would like to see some pics!


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    Some pics of Apache Warrior 10 Meter

    Apache at dock.jpg
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    Last edited by rdmerhar; 05-26-2020 at 06:33 PM.

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    Better picture:

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    how about some motor pics??

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    I have a Few 3.4s.....Cosworth blocks are 25 lbs lighter. Have better top main oiling. The T4 has small 2.0 style flywheel and 2.0 starter. And finger ports. 3.4 efi offshore has big starter and funky flywheel.... cool . the 3.4 offy had solid mounts.... low water pickup and cut upper driveshaft for wobble . Later 3.4 s had 40 amp and alum. flywheels and tapered wrist pins.. the race ones had steel sleves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RONNIE View Post
    how about some motor pics??
    That's what I'm saying, this thread gives me 3.4 Formula blue balls.
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