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04-26-2014, 04:26 AM #30316000 RPM
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I find it interesting a 20 something year old kid was privy to all the internal business and political happenings at Merc let alone OMC. Story I read said McCulloch quit Havasu because he had sold most of his lot and couldn't justify the cost any more. Multi engine racing did nothing to improve engine development that the singles couldn't do for less money. So that part of the story is correct if you buy the argument racing was to improve the breed and advertise. If Merc won, it didn't matter if the boat had 1 or 2 engines from the PR perspective.. But to blame the rotary for the demise of boat raceing is nothing more than sour grapes.
Got to go to work, more later.
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04-26-2014, 09:03 AM #3032
Let me wade in here....
RJ you are partially correct. The Rotary did not kill boat racing. Escalating costs did and the Rotary was part of that. From the time the factories created higher cost specialty OB's...(both Merc and OMC) the cost of power to the consumer increased. Add to that the increased value of imported one-off tunnel boats and a large core of part time racers were eliminated from the sport. The 1965 Hudson River Marathon had about 150 entries, most of whom traveled less than 300 miles to attend, and all of whom ran production pleasure hulls. By 1970 , not only did the boats and motors cost more, but there were now new "development" motors that no one could purchase or compete with as an independent. This got so bad that even the so called factory drivers had a pecking order of power plants and politics ran rampant at that level (mind you I am not complaining as I got way more than my share...but pthers didn't do so well)....By the time things began to even out (FONDA, IOGP, etc) all of the indpendent development and back yard R&D had been taken out of the sport and the hulls and engines were so advanced that only minor sponson tweaks and prop work separated the racers.....Gone were the production showroom classes, and well set up fishing motors. Gone also were the point to point marathons and the ability to race at non lethal speeds. With death and danger came more and more safety requirements and again more cost (Oxygen, safety cells, 5 point harnesses, specially trained rescue teams). While none of this was bad..and time marches on as we say....all of the "magic" was gone. All of the legendary raw boned characters who made their reputations for being rogues (Pruett, Bakos, Odell,Eis, et al) were driven away in favor of compact, light weight drivers cut from the Jeff Gordon mold.
So, no, the Rotary didn't kill outboard boat racing....it simply helped...
T2xLast edited by T2x; 04-26-2014 at 02:33 PM.
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15 foot Powercat 15C (2 X Merc 1500) (Dust'n the Wind III)
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15’ Wooden Switzer Shooting Star...
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04-26-2014, 10:32 AM #3033
All this compounded with a generally sinking economy, independents became very far and few. Late 60's early 70's was a boom time for nearly everything ... look at cars at the same time ... the peak of Mustangs & Vettes - later 70's saw a serious decline in performance. Increased cost of fuel put a major hurting on everyone's expendable income, whether directly or by increased costs of all other goods. The price of housing in the US skyrocketed as many women entered the full time workforce and single earner households went from prosperous to just barely getting by paycheck to paycheck.
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04-26-2014, 10:58 AM #30346000 RPM
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T2x: I have to agree that the factory wars pretty much excluded the independents. They should have kept and promoted stock classes to keep that part of boat racing alive. Factory involvement and money though, continued long after the rotaries were put away. As you said, it continued to escalate. Other forms of racing however, have continued to be successful with factory dominance; NASCAR. F1, LaManns. Boat racing never caught on in the US; outside of boat racers themselves. The rotaries did create a lot of excitement in the sport and crowds were significantly larger where they ran.
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04-26-2014, 12:15 PM #3035
From the 20 something kid .....
Jeepers, creepers ..... I tried to make it clear that this isn't about the rotary. I don't give a damn if the RC won a race or a hundred races, what I was trying to point out was that Mercury wasn't the only company trying to bully their way across the playground.
What I (not a 20 something kid) tried to say was that OMC tried to bully it's way in the racing game back then and that it had some very negative results. I used the example of the single engine only demand and the demand to allow the rotary to run at Havasu because I thought most everyone already knew those things happened and they did have a major impact on the future of OPC racing. I thought it might be new information for Lars and that he might look at the political BS a little differently.....he doesn't, that's fine.
I know Merc played some dirty pool, but I also know OMC wasn't always wearing a white hat.Last edited by willabee; 04-30-2014 at 07:26 AM.
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04-26-2014, 12:51 PM #30367000 RPM
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04-26-2014, 01:15 PM #3037
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04-26-2014, 02:35 PM #3038
absolutely not.....and we would have gotten a LOT more free stuff.....
Seriously though, I don't think that the delopment could have happened much faster as Mr K's engineering minions accounted fpr most of the upgrades anyway....other than that he might have countered the Rotary with a turbine or diesel variant. On the other hand he did take a lot of boat racing's magic with him when he left....kind of like Guy Lombardo took New Years Eve's....Last edited by T2x; 04-26-2014 at 02:41 PM.
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(Single engine boats are lacking something)
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Obsolete and Proud of it
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04-26-2014, 03:15 PM #3039
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04-26-2014, 05:46 PM #30406000 RPM
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04-26-2014, 11:23 PM #30417000 RPM
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04-27-2014, 09:00 AM #3042Screaming And Flying!
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But you didn't have any 2 litres (so I have been told)?? Just how many two liters did you enter, bet your sweet bippy it wasn't just the one Fonda started either 79 or 80, I forget which, we had 2.4 and 2 liter motors available Johno, but 2.4 went into the OZ class------as you know, that's unlimited infinity, didn't take a genius to see that route would not work
Thats the reason we capped it at 2 liters, nothing would have pleased me more than to see shed loads of Suzi ----Yami ----OMC----Carniti and Tom Cobleys competing in FONDA .
If you come to the OFF meeting this year, I will give you a copy of the four FONDA news letters, it will give you an idea of what I was trying to achieve .
Coulda worked------
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Jackie, Fonda worked very well, Oh yeah Cees told me he had 2 liter motors , and if I remember correct he did show up once with one.
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04-27-2014, 11:37 AM #3044Screaming And Flying!
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Cees turned up in Munich , wiped the floor with the field in the first heat, putting the Sh- ts up Mercury, but failed to show for the second heat. So the Merc hierarchy breathed again. When that thing ran , it was like sh- t off a Teflon coated shovel, but as I said before to R/J it was unreliable.
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04-27-2014, 01:33 PM #3045
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