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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    Man oh man we are entering exclusive territory-----Willa will beg to be crew chief !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Truth is Jackie, my 28 foot Skater ran 122 and that's a pleasure boat!!!!

    The wing feels more stable at 110 (so far) than the Skater did, but can't take anywhere near the choppy water or swells the Skater likes to play in. The Shadow and Conquest Offshore Cats we built ran like busses at well over 100 too, but they were much bigger and heavier hulls, so scale speed was commensurately lower. I have to keep reminding myself that most wings raced at speeds between and 75 and 95 or so and this is somewhat uncharted territory although the kilo speeds of 120 set way back when are real indicators of the true potential.

    Special thanks again to John Sherlock, without whom this project would not have happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLEGATOR View Post
    Jackie,

    Would love to run side by side with you, as we never got to race against each other in our "REAL LIFE".
    Jim i spoke with Fred Van Wagoner today about you and am passing on photos from the Suwannee to him . Thanks for coming , always enjoy talking to you .
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    So what sort of HP you pulling to run a 28' Skater at 122MPH ??
    the wing runs 110MPH with i would guess around 450-----500 HP
    The COSWORTH ran 125 using 400HP----but i ran out of boat long before i ran out of motor.

    Never got into Offshore, but my grandson won 3 world titles with a 42' Reggie-ship,---he had 1200 hp and would run 125 in comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie wilson View Post
    So what sort of HP you pulling to run a 28' Skater at 122MPH ??
    the wing runs 110MPH with i would guess around 450-----500 HP
    The COSWORTH ran 125 using 400HP----but i ran out of boat long before i ran out of motor.

    Never got into Offshore, but my grandson won 3 world titles with a 42' Reggie-ship,---he had 1200 hp and would run 125 in comfort.
    My skater had twin 300x's (330 hp each).

    Jackie: I have never given the wing full throttle and never will.... (twin 375's). She is running 110 at 6500 Rpm and the engines' peak RPM is 10,200. That boat is in a whole 'nuther solar system of power/weight ratio and speed potential.

    The fastest Offshore cats we built back in the day were in the 140 mph range (Jesse James 4 engine 48' Superboat) but today some of our old Shadows are pulling speeds over 150.
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    In speaking with Marlyn DiMartini who covered OFF for powerboat magazine she says an article about the party should be in Powerboat magazine sometime around the Miami boat show, If you guys could pull this allison, wing, cosworth fly-by in a word AWESOME, The challenge is back to you, also this means YOU, Willa..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by gofish7070 View Post
    In speaking with Marlyn DiMartini who covered OFF for powerboat magazine she says an article about the party should be in Powerboat magazine sometime around the Miami boat show, If you guys could pull this allison, wing, cosworth fly-by in a word AWESOME, The challenge is back to you, also this means YOU, Willa..........
    There should be two wings in attendance next year....and a twin inline Powercat.
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    Just knew you couldn't stay pissed at S&F for long John.!!!!!!!!!

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    Je Concur, John. I agree, The OFF are a great bunch of guys in the main, And i too got crapped on from a dizzy height by MM, But i also made a good living from the product so it balances out.
    Willa is gonna get really pissed at me for mentioning this----'cos it has absolutely NOTHING to do with "Hot Singles" but i have been commissioned to do a sculpture of the American Air Force Museum in Duxford. Which is just a most beautiful building designed by Sir Norman Foster and built by a mate of mine called Nigel Warnes. Nigel asked me to do the piece as he does not have anything to remind him of his achievement. I know that Seeroy and Charlie flew some of the planes that are in there. The upshot of all this dribble is that i have had great difficulty in not just doing a copy of this building --but doing it to my own imagination. I am currently on the 7th attempt and this is the way its going to go . I will stick it on a site somewhere as it gets near fruition ------------------IFFFFFFFF anyone is interested. Oh yes the stealth Blackbird is perched on top. Just tell me to get of'n your site WILLA if i'm trespassing.

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    I will try to come for this gig next year with the Allison/Chrysler stacker. I'm getting to be sort of an "OF" too so I might as well hitch it up and join the rest of the gray haired boat racing nuts.
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    don't i wish------you have to HAVE hair to be grey haired

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x View Post
    I'll supply the wing....... You'll be interested to know that we got the lope out of her over this past weekend....and she was cruising around at 100+ like a limousine.
    Rich - Congratulations on your "unlope"! I've been meaning to mention somthing to you for awhile and just didn't get around to it. I watched the videos of your runs at OFF several times in very slow motion and noticed that, on every "lope", the left sponson came back down ahead of the right sponson. I don't know if that indicates an actual configuration differential or simply a weight differential. It seems logical that, since you sit in the left sponson, it is a weight differential. I don't know if that is significant, but if it is, I'm sorry I didn't pass that along sooner. Best Regards - Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeroy View Post
    Rich - Congratulations on your "unlope"! I've been meaning to mention somthing to you for awhile and just didn't get around to it. I watched the videos of your runs at OFF several times in very slow motion and noticed that, on every "lope", the left sponson came back down ahead of the right sponson. I don't know if that indicates an actual configuration differential or simply a weight differential. It seems logical that, since you sit in the left sponson, it is a weight differential. I don't know if that is significant, but if it is, I'm sorry I didn't pass that along sooner. Best Regards - Steve
    It was a weight issue...boat is now balanced port to starboard as well as moving the C/G forward.

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    Rich, With no lope, I'll bet it's harder to keep it on the trailer now..Congratulations..Butch

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilabner View Post
    Rich, With no lope, I'll bet it's harder to keep it on the trailer now..Congratulations..Butch
    Probably not only harder to keep it on the trailer. But also harder to keep his foot from going all the way to the floor!

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    Rich, I am happy to realise that you ran out of boat too.
    I had 10,000 available right there at the pedal and could never use it 'cos the damn boat got so loose at 8,400. Seebold tried the boat and couldn't get it to run any faster because of the port sponson waving to the people problem.

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