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    Uncle Bill

    My Daughters (Anabel left and Danielle right) with their "Uncle Bill"


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    Nice picture MR. Sirois thank' for sharing your souvenirs... JP Gagnon
    Go boating,be happy!! And wear safety vest please!! And lesson good music...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c5oHITTI8c

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    Pruett took me to Bills house [Sarasota, i think] and he showed me a video that Vida had shot from a chopper. The boat would not get up on the step and wollowed around for 20 minutes before finally climbing on top. He then proceeded to chase after the pack which was long gone. That video showed the awesome speed of the craft, compared to any boat running at that time. He won of course !!!!!!!

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    Je concur jim

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    Steve

    That looks like my buddy Mike Seay next to them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilabner View Post
    That looks like my buddy Mike Seay next to them..

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    Butch - Was there a Mark Seay and can you tell if this is him in this photo with Bill? - Steve

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    Seeroy

    Brothers, and like a second family in the 70's..We were all at HM, then Mike and I went to Fino..Mike then went to Nordskog, I went to Porsches, Mark moved around till he found Bill and Al..Then Mark got Mike a job with Bill..He was a great fabricator/designer...Their younger brother Jim was my partner till he drank himself to death at 50..The Popeyes shop was right behind mine, so when a road test was needed, it took some time to find our way back..A guy named Denny was there too..And yes, that's Mark..We are still in touch..Mike lives with him..

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    Thanks Butch – You have restored my confidence in my own sanity. Sometimes I think folks believe that I know more than I do about who, where, what, when and why from back in the day. Reality is that I knew very little about things other than what was going on right around me. Bill and I were close but after I went off to fly, we were not in touch too often and we were each very busy with our own individual activities. I did meet Mark Seay and probably met Mike. Fun Story….We had an Air National Guard Commanders Conference in Jacksonville sometime during the 80’s. Bill and Al were in Key West for the Worlds Offshore Race with the 50’ Cougar Cat. At that time they were in development with the Ford powered GoetZ catamaran. I called Bill and asked him if he had a boat he could send to Jacksonville to put on display at the Commanders Conference. He sent the Geotz cat with a big Air National Guard emblem emblazoned on the tail. Everyone enjoyed crawling all over the boat. Since it was a wide load it could not travel on the road after dark. However, we wanted to keep it on display beyond sunset and then take it from a hotel in downtown Jacksonville to the Florida Air National Guard hanger for safekeeping. We had folks from all walks of life in the Guard, including many law enforcement officers. After quick consultation a Jacksonville Sherriff/Florida Highway Patrol escort had been arranged for the 15-20 mile trip. I was to ride with the Popeyes Truck Driver who I think was one of the Seay brothers. I am probably wrong about that, but that is one of the reasons why I asked you about Mark Seay in my last post. Anyway, if it was a Seay, he will be able to confirm this story. As we left the hotel, we had several motorcycle cops with lights flashing and sirens blaring with us. We jumped onto I-95 while several others blasted ahead of us and closed the I-95 entrance ramps until after we had passed. I was a little surprised at the service, but ?Mark/Mike? Was blown away by it and kept saying, “Who the hell do you know?”. As usual, I didn’t know the right people, but I guess I did know people that did know the right people.


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    Another picture of the Goetz Cat. This project ultimately led to the demise of the Popeyes team of Copeland and Sirois. Others will know much more than I about the technical aspects of the boat. Obviously they were trying new stuff....surfacing props with shafts horiZontal to waterline and built into step, closed cockpit with air conditioning (Al loved COLD air conditioning), 4 big block Fords,etc. Unfortunately, they kept breaking. The following is what Bill told me........Just prior to the Sarasota race, Al wanted a guarantee from Bill that the boat would absolutely finish the race. That was the final straw! Bill faxed his resignation to Al. The thing that really hurt Bill was that Al immediately had the shop door locks changed. Things were a bit dicey between them for quite awhile. Eventually they renewed their friendship, but never again worked together. I think Bob Idoni initially took over the team and others followed. The boat was reworked and eventually did well.



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    where is the race slated to take place (the actual course? )(jupiter/abacoa?)
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    Seeroy

    Mike did a lot of the design and drawings on the Goetz cat mechanicals..He and Bill also designed the drive boxes. Mike was up at the boat builders factory a lot as sort of liason..They built it with some really trick composite aluminum panels..They showed me some cross sections, and I think they said it was the same material the wings of a 747 were built with..The big problem was it couldn't get rid of the water..It got trapped in the panel core, and added about a ton of weight to the boat..So a light boat turned to a pig..I will call Mark and ask him more about it, he also has a lot of pictures..Bill, Mike and Mark were pretty tight, and a very solid work group..They were fun to be around..I think Al was the problem. He didn't know how loyal his crew was to him, and how dedicated they were..

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    One of the biggest problems in racing is the jockeying for position between crew chiefs for the major owners. There is a lot of backstabbing and double dealing. This is aggravated by the bar flys who, it seems, are constantly jawboning with the owners. What happens is the owners listen to too many people who either of an agenda or no knowledge whatsoever. This happens even with the best of them. When Bill left Popeyes the magic ended. Idoni is a friend as is Powers, but there was something magic about the Copeland Sirois partnership. Idoni enjoyed it with Fayva, and certainly Powers was amazing with Gentry and the Apache Heritage. However their personalities never meshed with Al like Bill's did. That and the fact that Bill's innovative abilities were second to none made them one of the most successful and iconic teams in Offshore racing history.

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    Butch Cassidy Quote

    Quote from 'Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid', "Who Are Those Guys?'


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    Quote Originally Posted by seeroy View Post
    Quote from 'Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid', "Who Are Those Guys?'

    The guy in the middle is one handsome devil..........
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    Not Lake X but from the era - -

    Mr. Kiekhaefer would often "roast" the competition(s) motors when he had his dealers in Fond du Lac for events and meetings.
    About a year ago in the woods on the ledge, the original tripod used for these roasts was located - 50 years later. Thought this item would be of interest to the readers of S&F. It recently was set up for a local boating event in Fond du Lac - but I guess no one had a "Fat 50" to roast.
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