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Thread: Any info on the Yamaha 300
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02-13-2004, 02:56 PM #15000 RPM
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Any info on the Yamaha 300
HPDI motor at the show? If anyone can snag a brochure and send it my way it would be greatly appreciated. I think (actually hope) I may have a use for a pair around mid year.
-Greg
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02-13-2004, 03:06 PM #25000 RPM
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How about an e-brochure?
Any fool can make something complicated - it takes a genius to make it simple.
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02-13-2004, 03:13 PM #35000 RPM
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Saw that, still would like a paper one for drooling over when I'm not near a computer though
-Greg
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02-13-2004, 06:13 PM #4
How does this compare to Merc's offerings???
Prices???
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02-13-2004, 07:22 PM #5
I hope you'll at least give the Mercs a strong look. Always best to buy American whenever possible.
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02-13-2004, 07:30 PM #6
I would have to agree with raceman. IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
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02-14-2004, 11:23 AM #75000 RPM
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I am considering Mercs too, but from the rough data I have so far they are a lot more $$. Pair of 300 HPFI at $30k, pair of Mercs are pushing $40k.
-Greg
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02-14-2004, 09:30 PM #8
I heard from a Bomb rep that when they tested the Yammie it was pretty fuel thirsty...didn't make 300 either..I think they have a great reputation that they really don't deserve. Go to a Yammie repair shop..they break as bad as everything else...There is no magic perfect engine...we pays our money and takes a chance..go with the best warranty...and coolest looking motor...
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02-14-2004, 09:32 PM #9
Oh yeah
My biggest peave is the U.S. Coast Guard using Yammies...this should be treason...
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02-14-2004, 09:52 PM #10Originally posted by lilabner
..I think they have a great reputation that they really don't deserve. Go to a Yammie repair shop..they break as bad as everything else...There is no magic perfect engine...
for the twin mercs pushing 40k, look at jacos marine , i am sure he could get you into twin 300x motors for less than 35. http://www.jacosmarine.com
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02-15-2004, 05:54 AM #11
Yamaha quality
Guys, be realistic!
Even though Mercury has closed a large part of the quality gap to Yamaha in the past 20 years, Yamaha is still #1. Manufacturing tolerances are tighter, things are designed to last longer (just look at the impeller housings), and the electrical components are far more reliable. Ask anyone who has sold both Mercury or OMC and Yamaha.
That is why they come out better in the JD Powers ratings and why people who depend on their engines rely on them. It is the same story all over the world: Coast guard and drug smugglers in the US use the big engines; among the fishermen over here who run tiny little 2 cyl. engines, Yamaha outnumbers any other brand by a factor 10. The Eskimo fishermen on Greenland, btw, only run Yamaha V6 engines on their fishing boats. They claim a Mercury would not even start when it gets really cold, and they would never trust one to bring them and their catch home.
Bombardier seems to really have improved things quality wise, though, and with e-Tec they way well have a winner.
And although Raceman suddenly starts sounding like Dick Gephardt, Verado definitely deserves a look, but not because it is manufactured in Wisconsin, but because it looks like a pretty damn impressive engine.
Now, if I were to buy a 300 hp engine, I would go with the Mercury 300X provided that it costs less than the Yamaha 300 HPDI, but I have to admit that I care more about speed than I care about the environment.Markus' Performance Boating Links:
www.toastedmarshmallow.com/performance
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02-15-2004, 07:57 AM #12
Easily said from Sweden.
Let's see some Yamahas spin up in the 8,000 range and see what happens.
The fact of the matter is that if the Yamaha was so great in the performance boating environment, you would see them strapped on the back of more STV's, Fountains, Talons, Profiles, DCB's, Eliminators, Cougar's, Howard's, Checkmate's, Motion's, Skater's, etc......
Sometimes you have to just look around and observe.
You may be right if we are talking about a 21' family fishing boat!
Just making an observation...
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02-15-2004, 10:25 AM #13
i agree with markus
i am a diehard omc/bmc fan BUT...if we're goin 50 miles offshore i want yamahas on the back....lee--yamaha has never gone after the performance boat market (probably a good thing for mercury).but as far as reliability and smooth running--its tough to compete with yamaha....raceman--i agree with the whole buy american thing--i just think yamaha has forced the other manufacturers to step up to the plate...kinda like what toyota did to the american car manufacturers 10 years ago....the market is changing and we will all have to make adjustments in the very near future....4 strokes are here to stay and so are direct injected 2 strokes.................my .02..............greg
i love mercs---they taste like chicken
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02-15-2004, 10:27 AM #14
Greg,
Are you going to join us for the "Shell Island Gathering" March 13th?
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02-15-2004, 10:30 AM #15
I don't disagree with you, but when you say "step up to the plate" you may want to take another look at the NEW Merc on display at the Miami Boat show. I think that they have definitely stepped up to the plate. They may actually be running the bases at this point. We will see.