Ingredients to make killer 2.0

[Michael J Giesler]

It was my plan to run a 2.0 champ mod u motor on a lite Allison drag boat just for fun but all of a sudden these motors went from $3500-$5500 to $7000-$8500 for that price it will just be a dream i will stick with my drsgs and my 2006 280/drag dam shame because the old 2.0 liters where good little motors

[Chaz]

This is going back at least 15 years, but a friend of mine was turning 800cc arctic cat triples into 1108's and he had to order 50 pistons!

Yes sir .. and if the "overrun" units that were not blems , you had to pay for them as well . Which still hold's true to this day .

Chaz = thinkin , if someone has never ordered customs .. "WELP"... never mind I have never stuffed thousands worth of Benjamin's in the mailbox and lifted the outgoing red flag .. so what do I know about being assigned a part number of my own ..

[Capt.Insane-o]

I really like these little motors due to longevity reasons. Next year I'm going to have to bite the wiener and make an order me thinks. Sucks but at least the bores stay round.

[FMP]

Yes sir .. and if the "overrun" units that were not blems , you had to pay for them as well . Which still hold's true to this day .

Chaz = thinkin , if someone has never ordered customs .. "WELP"... never mind I have never stuffed thousands worth of Benjamin's in the mailbox and lifted the outgoing red flag .. so what do I know about being assigned a part number of my own ..

That's right the man on the phone was clueless and I'm full of snot and like to tell stories, call and ask.

300+ from that 2.0 , that's alright.

[Keaten]

Ok in a perfect world were nothing ever goes wrong or breaks ,if a guy mods a merc 2.0 fishn block with 150 psi heads and 200 psi heads to play with, perfect leak down %s , ground out chest to run 10k ,changed port timing need help in this area for shure !! good pistions top pinned with merc rings, hone holes to match, d or square mod done on pistions with adding a additional hole or holes to pistions, big rods for the rpm i guess? 5 or 7 front with a lot off front much as possible, port reed cages little less than crazy add CCMS reeds 1" intake spacer, wh15 or 20 carbs will start out fat on jetting say 46 idle and 85 mains.. wat would I have then... if done perfect say.. 175 hp lol hope not.. more like 250 at 7-10k ?

[Capt.Insane-o]

The factory 2.0 fish blocks have a big heavy cast iron jug cast in the block, it's not a sleeve like a 2.5. Which makes them more difficult to port. Order an old oval port f1 sleeve from LA sleeve and copy that.

[FMP]

I don't know either teach! Get to the principal's office he said.

[Capt.Insane-o]

Late model pistons. They can be used in older models with new rods.

[Chaz]

That's right the man on the phone was clueless and I'm full of snot and like to tell stories, call and ask.

I have no doubt they know what their doing .
You might have even bought a dozen pistons and a couple spares ... once in your life.
But just as you misquote non applicable text and pictures of a Sea-Do , as having some relevancy to Mercury outboards , I have no doubt you misquoted "the man on the phone" at Wiseco . Which normally should be no big deal . But since it's me ... you would rather stand behind something you have never done nor went thru the beginning stages of having a custom piston built than just say , that you don't know .
Pretty sad , that you would let a guy order sleeves , have a block machined , and then find out that if he in fact needed a custom . It would actually have to go thru engineering and that he would have to sign off on the prints .
And of course , you would need to have an account with banking information on file before they will even consider a custom project . ( they want to get paid for their time )
Like I said there is a minimum order and customs cost more than standard kits . And if you call back the next week ... even for the same part number , you go back to the minimum order . There is no price break unless you order 48 unit all in one shot . Which means it's not cumulative . I do hope that has cleared up some of your confusion on ordering custom pistons .
Cash no chequeinzee ehh ? That I can't say . I'm an American citizen with a clean banking record . A line of credit and references .... and you ???

I don't know either teach! Get to the principal's office he said.

The new year is coming , maybe you need to think about applying a character resolution or two ... just sayin ...

[FMP]

You must be thinking of yourself, you can't hold a candle to me. Friend
And what are you going on about, letting a guy order sleeves???
Why get all spun about what someone said to me about a small custom order regarding easy mods to an existing product line?

[Keaten]

Dwilfong can forward me a example of a port map print to learn from

[90 5.0]

Well I did some brain storming with a new bud of mine and we talked about the 2.0L setup.
I passed my idea of making a thick aluminum sleeve to put in a 2.5 steel sleeve block.
He liked it very much and said he will work up a price to make a set of sleeves for me.
This will be a 2.0L with the same port lay out of a 2.5l but running the small 3,125 pistons.
Now just need to see a top guide Wisco 2.0L piston to see what is what.
I like this because I can do some inside contour work on the .278 thick sleeve.
This way will not have to cut so much out of the out side to get the port I want.
Large on the bottom side and tapers smaller to help with velocity in to the chamber.
Will have to get it plated after all the work is done.
Just a brain storm right now we will see if time and $$$$ will be on my side.

research the merc XR-2, the European race version not the late 80’s bass xr-2.

Its a 2.5 block with an aluminum 2.0 nic plated sleeve. Might help answer some questions on your build

[Capt.Insane-o]

xr2 is steel sleeved. Just a righty sst120/s2000 motor. Still piston ported.

[FMP]

I see what you're saying having the thick sleeves to do your port work but 2.5 vs 2.0 displacement?

[FMP]

You know a rebuttal will be forthcoming from somewhere.