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    Checkmate Starliner Open Bow

    This was to be my final FrankenRude V-8 motor project hull but I'm out of time and motivation and another long term project has surfaced.

    I sold these boats new and we had one w/a XP 300 V-8 and I thought it was the ultimate open bow performance boat.
    80 through chop, driving w/one hand.

    Checkmate built very, very few of these boats and that was 30 yrs ago.
    They now have a cult following.

    I've re-rigged it the way I wanted it so massive power wouldnt break or wreck it.
    Currently has 18" of set back w/turnbuckle transom supports. They are trick and well done.
    10" of the set back is a hydraulic Bobs w/gauge.

    I converted to hydraulic steering. Steering and plate hose are run thorough bulkhead connectors w/custom hoses. Very trick, very clean.
    Even has the factory optional tri pod ski pylon.

    Also has a dual pyro, depth finder, ship to shore, new (remote) smart phone compatible stereo.

    Deck has been buffed since these shots.

    There is one seam on the bench seat base that is pulling lose but otherwise, interior is as new.

    Trailer is tandem axle w/alloy wheels, new bearings, brakes, guide posts and a spare.

    When I bought it it had the orig '91 225 OMC on it and ran a best of 56 MPH.
    This was GPS not hypothetical like some claims Ive seen.
    W/8" of set back and a decent wheel, I saw 66/67 w/that motor.
    W/a stought 225 you should be into the low 70's. W/a 250+, a good wheel and proper set up it ought to be a an absolute blast of an 80 MPH family boat.

    W/the now 18" of set back, it has totally change the personality of the boat!
    Ive seen negative reports of similar set ups but I absolutely love its new personality.
    Think-went from wet bottom, heavy ski boat ride to, light fast, aired out Allison.

    Plus, the 18" of set back comes from the 10" hydraulic, 6" manual and 2" spacers so make it what you want.

    Unfortunately my boat repair business has kept me too busy to finish dialing my 3.3 FrankenRude III motor to see what she really has but was expecting 80 w/that motor..

    This hull was to be for the V-8 project but after two still born attempts, Ive decided to let it sacrifice itself for the greater good.

    Im sure Ill regret this as thias is a VERY, VERY rare boat and draws a crowd everywhere it goes..

    Thanks all.

    $5500 less power.

    Gary
    937-571-1239
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    Last edited by Instigator; 10-30-2017 at 10:39 AM.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Now that is really nice glws great sandbar boat ski boat and just all around perfect boat. I miss my checkmate and regret selling it. Rick

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    Getting ready to move and need this gone.

    $5200.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Calls only please.
    Not a fan of unknown, anonymous texters.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Found my next project.

    $5K

    Come get a piece of history.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Bump for a nice Mate!��

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    $4800.

    Come get it.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Any problems with the boat Gary? What year, 21 foot, how is the floor, does it come with the 225?

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    I got the V8 Evinrude 300XP for the boat.

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    Rhino, floor and transom are rock solid and as it says in the ad, less power.

    Loco, thx but too little too late. We are moving in 30 days and losing storage for 3 months while I build a new shop.
    I think I'm done dropping price and think it's sold anyway.

    Only selling it to fund another project and have already raised enough funds I may keep the Starliner, put it on moth balls long term, and wait on a donor V-8.

    Thanks though!
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Ok so the Checkmates sold? If not do you have a motor to throw on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino875 View Post
    Ok so the Checkmates sold? If not do you have a motor to throw on it?
    Couple people very serious on it but no funds yet.

    Sorry, no motor for it.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Ok thanks for the reply, I would need a complete boat looking for my first and don't have a motor.

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    Weight? Does it measure 21?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMP View Post
    Weight? Does it measure 21?
    $4600 and not sure.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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