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    Anyone pad dimensions for a Sidewinder Super 16 ?

    Looking to fit a pad to Dateline Bikini ( Sidewinder copy )
    I have searched every where and can't find the info i need.
    My boat is 15ft and is almost identical to the super 16
    I have a couple of pics of a winder with a pad but thats as close as i could get.
    Don't know any dimension Click image for larger version. 

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    The 16SS had a round bottom. The only Sidewinder with a pad was the 14SS and it is just a delta pad and is 7" across at the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spybot View Post
    Looking to fit a pad to Dateline Bikini ( Sidewinder copy )
    I have searched every where and can't find the info i need.
    My boat is 15ft and is almost identical to the super 16
    I have a couple of pics of a winder with a pad but thats as close as i could get.
    Don't know any dimension Click image for larger version. 

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    Making a pad First you need to say what are your expectations and hope it will do ,
    what and how the boat will be used ?? !
    do you expect it to be a go fast ??
    or just a good everyday kind of ski boat??
    and how many people do you carry most of the time ??
    in all reality have you thought about trim tabs ??


    That photo is a step wouldn't have dome much if !anything
    Messing round with boats is fun !! the learning never stops ,even after more than 30 years there's always something new happening somewhere ! BUT somethings never change and some problems never go away and just keep reoccurring !!so moved into Composite Forensics , Now that something completely new !!

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    The boat hopefully will be a fast lake boat running a 115 hp johnson
    She has terrible chine walk around 40mph
    Carry 2 Have trim tabs on her just now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spybot View Post
    The boat hopefully will be a fast lake boat running a 115 hp johnson
    She has terrible chine walk around 40mph
    Carry 2 Have trim tabs on her just now.
    Chine walking AT 40 MPH ?? could be even worst with a pad !! what is the top speed !!
    Playing with a pad sure as hell isn't going to fix it from chine walking !! ,
    sounds like the motor wants the whole set up looking into and also !!,
    so how you trim your motor ??
    never forgetting balance of the whole boat !!

    Need lots photos please of the motor and the set up to look at heights and trim etc etc !!
    Last edited by tunnels; 06-28-2017 at 09:13 PM.
    Messing round with boats is fun !! the learning never stops ,even after more than 30 years there's always something new happening somewhere ! BUT somethings never change and some problems never go away and just keep reoccurring !!so moved into Composite Forensics , Now that something completely new !!

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    Hi Tunnels
    Top speed is around 42 (thats with her with a 85 V4 ohnson)if i can keep the chine walk under control.
    I will take lots of photos at the weekend. I would really appreciate any help on setting the boat up.

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    Chine walk can be a symptom of loose steering. Try this: Either lock down the steering wheel or have some one hold it firmly then you go to the stern and try forcing the engine side to side. See how much movement you can induce. Even a couple of degrees can create a harmonic back-and-forth movement as torque loads and unloads the steering. You may not notice it while driving as you are fighting the chine walking on plane. Even loose or worn motor mounts on some engine designs can create enough of a shudder or vibration at speed that chine walking may develop. It may not be the whole problem on your boat but it is certainly something to work to reduce or eliminate as a contributory cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raysoncrafter View Post
    Chine walk can be a symptom of loose steering. Try this: Either lock down the steering wheel or have some one hold it firmly then you go to the stern and try forcing the engine side to side. See how much movement you can induce. Even a couple of degrees can create a harmonic back-and-forth movement as torque loads and unloads the steering. You may not notice it while driving as you are fighting the chine walking on plane. Even loose or worn motor mounts on some engine designs can create enough of a shudder or vibration at speed that chine walking may develop. It may not be the whole problem on your boat but it is certainly something to work to reduce or eliminate as a contributory cause.
    Thanks for that Ray i will check that his weekend. Never thought of googling causes of chine walking. That is a really good point. Thank You Sir

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