450r/500r

[Chaz]

Wayne was on track with that build, I talked to him several times,never met him but wish i had. , well i wanted BRP to be on top so i was there last week ans sold them mine LOL, cobbled tz 750's.

I thought you wuz a guillotine slide guy ... LOL imagine getting 8 cable pull Mikuni's to idle ...
I remember going to Daytona as a kid and watching everybody climbing the wall coming out of the infield . Johnny Cecotto could go around two or three of em on the outside with the front wheel dangling and the back one putting off just a wisp of smoke . Amazing motor ... and rider .

Nothin beats the Indy Mile when K.R. clipped the Michigan mafia on the last straight ... LOL
Listen to it at 2:30 on the checkered flag lap ... Burrrripppppp

[Chaz]

Considering how long it took Mercury to go from 350 to 400, it could be years before we see more. I thought the 450-500 was bogus from the onset. It came out just a couple of weeks after I asked a guy from Mercury racing about the CNC props and what the changes for 2017 were. He said only the 3 yr warranty. Have no idea who Dale's inside sources were, but their credibility is suspect.

I have no idea what is will take for Merc to go from 400 to 500, although it is likely to be a lot more than a boost increase. They did a lot of work on the intake track and intercooler to get to 400, and its likely it will take more than that to get to 500. My uniformed guess is that it would require a larger displacement SC, larger intake valves, cam and other typical hot rodder tricks to get to that level. The challenge is not the power level, but how to offer a 3 year warranty that some customers will choose to run at 7000 rpm+ for long periods.

Wishful thinking and an internet connection built this years 450 - 500's ..
Much of the same fantasy is responsible for thinking that mother Mercury is going to step on the Verado package , turn it loose on the public and stand behind for three years .
As it is they have sold plenty of 150 -200's that guys have run up on the beach got knocked out with the motor at full song till it stuck . When they sobered up Monday , the story was , you sold me a lemon ... Pfffttttttt
Why do you think you have to pay twice as much for a new motor as it's worth .. you can bet a good part of it is paying the tard tax .
They offer a 15" 400 now , No wty . The racers snap em up and buy extra's . They know if it breaks , chances are pretty good that they did it . If a run of them between certain serial numbers were to say have the cam gear bolts fall out in the first 10 minutes , then I would hope they would fix it .
You can bet that Mercury's fun needle is pegged when it comes to guys who act like they are sponsored by Mercury thru they wty department .
Let me ask you capable check writers this . If Merc offered a bolt on kit that bumped a Verado to 500 HP , but cancelled the wty .... would you do it .. ?
That's why you won't see one next year either .
But looking into my crystal ball , I see that they got big atta-boys for their 4 valve head for the LS .. or whatever their version of the small Chevy is ... and will put that package out there to compete with 7 marine on the whale size motor ...
Chaz = wantin to see a pair of them pork-chop's on the back of a 30' cat ...

[Double Rigged]

I agree Chaz, the big motor from Mercury will come to compete with 7 marine. Down here in S. FL you are seeing more and more of them. The big CC's need cubic inch. In talking to some of the guys i know they are happy with the sales or the 400r's and the builders of the 30' Cats think they are fast enough with that amount of weight hanging on the back. Anymore would be really looking for trouble. I am patiently waiting to see if the likes of Caldwell can develop a tamer version of the 625 3.5L that can be used around the docks and make 500hp. If that becomes a reality it would smoke the 400 literally!

[powerabout]

got to stand a chev on on its crank to get ahead

[noli]

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did anyone see a 450/500 HP outboard under the tent?

[JPEROG]

I agree Chaz, the big motor from Mercury will come to compete with 7 marine. Down here in S. FL you are seeing more and more of them. The big CC's need cubic inch. In talking to some of the guys i know they are happy with the sales or the 400r's and the builders of the 30' Cats think they are fast enough with that amount of weight hanging on the back. Anymore would be really looking for trouble. I am patiently waiting to see if the likes of Caldwell can develop a tamer version of the 625 3.5L that can be used around the docks and make 500hp. If that becomes a reality it would smoke the 400 literally!

I have heard rumors that Ron's projection is absolutely correct. Read his first sentence and wait until the Miami show-

Joe

[Chaz]

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did anyone see a 450/500 HP outboard under the tent?

Nope ... But most of us have seen the photoshopped 450 / 500 picture that circulated around last year ...

Chaz = wunderin how many times a day the raze still calls Merc Racing ... pleading his case ..

[noli]

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Noli = hopin' that the big motors arrive soon




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[powerabout]

will it come with uprated gearbox?

[RSWORDS]

I have a feeling we will see all the verados other then the 350/400 go away. I think the will be replaced by a new design (the verado is 11 years old now)

And I have a feeling it will be available with standard throttle and shift and DTS.

[AZMIDLYF]

Simon Motorsport said they can:

We can tune the 400 to 450 without anything else done to the motor.

[Capt.Insane-o]

I can't wait until the converters get jammed in there.

[AZMIDLYF]

What about a CVT?

[Capt.Insane-o]

the cadiladic converter

[powerabout]

how much life do those dirty 4strokes have as an outboard anyway?
I wonder the what the price difference will end up being from 2s non catcon versus 4s with catcon?
then wait till the EPA correctly apply the CO2 rules...
or Merc sell too many big engines ( 2 star) and run out of epa credits from the small engines ( 3 star) that collect them?
They cant get a blower engine to 3 star can they?