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    Quote Originally Posted by home made tunnel View Post

    I've gotten a few quotes on the XS, but they are wild and far between.. Between $8300 and $13500 US dollars

    I'm no financial expert but I'd go with the $8300 quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorvator View Post
    I'm no financial expert but I'd go with the $8300 quote.
    The only issue with that 1 quote, is that it involves driving half way across the country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by home made tunnel View Post
    The only issue with that 1 quote, is that it involves driving half way across the country!
    Assuming you are talking Jaco's? There are no shortage of people who do business there. They move a lot of motors. Generally have some of the best prices in the country because of the sheer volume. I believe my dad called there a few years ago debating buying one and that 8300 number seems correct.

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    Doug Russel has a 90, maybe they can find you a 120, I mean 115.
    http://www.dougrussell.com/engines-s...hp-4-stroke-20
    Last edited by FMP; 12-08-2016 at 09:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSmile View Post
    Assuming you are talking Jaco's? There are no shortage of people who do business there. They move a lot of motors. Generally have some of the best prices in the country because of the sheer volume. I believe my dad called there a few years ago debating buying one and that 8300 number seems correct.
    Yes, Jaco's... But If I can save a grand or two, it's worth it to me to buy local. Money lost for A few days out of work, hotel rooms, gas, and driving down there would cost a grand easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by FMP View Post
    Doug Russel has a 90, maybe they can find you a 120, I mean 115.
    http://www.dougrussell.com/engines-s...hp-4-stroke-20
    Haha - Already have a Force 90... It's a little Icy at the moment haha. I'd replace it with a 120 though, sure!
    New boat = new motor! Old boat gets the old motors.


    So anyone else know of a difference between the computer program and +300rpm.... and fancy stickers??

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    TOo cOnfusing...

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    So A 115 Pro XS from Bass Pro will run you around $8400... 4" vessel view, another grand... and odds and ends / wiring / cables... another 400

    Sounds like a great deal to me !!!
    I would definitely rather support the local marinas... but at the price quote of 13500... OUCH...

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    They do the volume, a new 20 tiller short manual was going for $1850 up here a while back. Still a big $ for 115hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariawhitetrash View Post
    We're allowed nosecones & hydraulic jack plates. You're absolutely right that there's a big difference between online claims and genuine figures - there's also a big difference between GPS peaks and 2 way kilo averages. My GPS peak was 75.3mph, best one way run was timed at 75.1 (GPS was nailed on at 75 the whole way, perfect water and a tail wind) but my best 2 way was only 72.75mph - a big difference
    Interesting. There must be a heck of a current or the wind was very detrimental. I run on rivers quite a bit and interesting enough, two way averages are typically less than current for some reason? My only conclusion is my boat seems easier to drive upstream and is slightly more efficient.

    Did the head wind make the boat too flighty? That is typically what is what makes my runs into a head wind more conservative... Amazing how much less is needed due to aero lift as well....
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    Quote Originally Posted by xb03fs View Post
    Interesting. There must be a heck of a current or the wind was very detrimental. I run on rivers quite a bit and interesting enough, two way averages are typically less than current for some reason? My only conclusion is my boat seems easier to drive upstream and is slightly more efficient.

    Did the head wind make the boat too flighty? That is typically what is what makes my runs into a head wind more conservative... Amazing how much less is needed due to aero lift as well....

    It was faster with a tail wind, I could have had a better return run into the headwind with a few more goes I think but the wind went and the lake flattened off again! It runs very flat, and relatively wet but the steps take care of the efficiency - that's why our average is so much higher in choppy races as it's very stable and doesn't need to fly.

    the first pic here is on our best run of 75, the other pic is a direct comparison of my old Bernico and the Phantom. Exactly the same motor, and 10mph difference in speed despite it looking like it's running very wet. You really can't beat well designed steps in an offshore boat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by home made tunnel View Post
    The step way up front on that hull is pretty gnarly ! Does it make much of a difference?
    I haven't built one without it for a direct comparison, but it works very well...


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