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    IMPO, I would not play with steering components.
    This wingplate was made by Chaz for my 300 and it worked flawlessly
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    look at those welds flawless
    21 Tuff, Mercury 300X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk Pitt View Post
    look at those welds flawless
    Yes! It had to be welded due to the rise/offset and done very well! The gusset was probably unnecessary but was just added security in case any welded area fatigue.
    Bending 3/8" aluminum is not a good idea.....
    Once I had it powder coated it looked great!

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    and you cant find a better guy to do business with I cant imagine if he had a pastery shop in Bensonhurst......
    21 Tuff, Mercury 300X

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    Chaz
    Very nice work as always
    what are your thoughts on heat treating 6061 after welding? when is it necessary?
    limited skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by tux974 View Post
    Yes! It had to be welded due to the rise/offset and done very well! The gusset was probably unnecessary but was just added security in case any welded area fatigue.
    Bending 3/8" aluminum is not a good idea.....
    Once I had it powder coated it looked great!
    It's that word "probably" that has me toss and turn half the night ...
    I've built quite a few plates now . Stepped , flat , flat with a bushing in the box , and have settled in on flat with the bushing welded in place .
    I was taught to chamfer holes , roll all the edge's , use large radius's in any change in direction . And in the case of steering or brake parts , to leave plenty of material around the outside of any attachment point or loop .

    Dirk , I better stick with metal .... If I owned a canole' factory , between pastries and black coffee with a lemon peel I'd never come up for air ... Marone

    Heat treat ... when you get aluminum so hot it turn's to mush , better send the part to be solution ( 1000* and water dipped) treated . Other than that , just preheat to 300* weld the part without getting excessive , and tent it back to normal . It might be T-4 or 5 after .. but I think a little more malleable is better than brittle , any day of the week ....

    When I get lost , I go see my "forensic stress analysis" buddy Joe . Another X Pratt-rat that skkkkeeeeeerz the ^%$% out of me just as much as he teach's me ....

    http://martinmetlabs.com/home.html

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    It's that word "probably" that has me toss and turn half the night ...
    It could surely be that Cuban coffee with a lime peel!.....
    Are radius also know as sweeps.....
    I agree on always being sure when it comes to any important safety parts!.....
    I could have easily lifted the boat from that plate.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tux974 View Post
    IMPO, I would not play with steering components.
    This wingplate was made by Chaz for my 300 and it worked flawlessly
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    Tony! .... that boat only has 1 motor.
    Wriggleys gum makes me think of boating, "Double your engines, Double your fun"



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    Quote Originally Posted by NICE PAIR View Post
    Tony! .... that boat only has 1 motor.
    Steve, yes, you are correct but......this is why the 24 Super did not last long in the stable and the 21 RS got quickly de-rigged, motor sold and twins landed on that transom.....

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    I have some OMC factory wing plates that are so hard you would think they were steel. I wonder what plate and what they were hardened to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tux974 View Post
    It could surely be that Cuban coffee with a lime peel!.....
    Almost as good as the canole' itself ..

    Are radius also know as sweeps.....
    Brandon says a sweep is a judo move ..

    I agree on always being sure when it comes to any important safety parts!.....
    Most tend to overbuild , me included . Go look at the linkage that changes the pitch of a helicopter's rotor if you want a good scare.

    I could have easily lifted the boat from that plate.....
    LMAO ... and there ya have it .. a good night's sleep ...

    Powerabout :

    • I have some OMC factory wing plates that are so hard you would think they were steel. I wonder what plate and what they were hardened to?



    • Well power , there is artificial aging where you heat the part to 350* for 8 hours and then let it come back to room temp .

      And then there's natural aging , but it takes about 20 years minimum to get there ...

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    Chaz doing spot welds


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    LMAO ..... Look at those beads ...

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    [Most tend to overbuild , me included . Go look at the linkage that changes the pitch of a helicopter's rotor if you want a good scare. } You got that right chaz, ours weighs 11900 lbs and 8 3/8 low profile nuts hold the whole mast in the transmission case and the studs are threaded into an aluminum housing, crazy. if i built that it would never fly.. my spec would be no less than 20 1/2 inconel bolts... heads in the case no threads to pull out. lol , Dave

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    A few years ago I built a trailer / landing pad for the sheriff's dept . They pull the trailer / helo out of the building with an ATV , do their thing and put it back away when they are done .
    When we were measuring the job , I remember looking at the linkages and thinking that even though all it needs to do is overcome shear loads , a little extra security couldn't hurt . I think the rotor used 3/16 ths and 1/4" rod ends ..

    Make's as much sense as lifting 6 ton's with 8 half nut's ... But I'm sure they have documented stress analysis testing to show where there is a certain percentage of overkill built in ...
    Take's me a while to get my mind around the .035 and .049 wall tubing jobs I get every now and again .. I ask , man are you sure ... ? They say my .058 and .065 is for makin tanks and rail road cars ... I don't see too much stuff fall out of the sky , so they must know something ...


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