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06-08-2017, 12:50 PM #121
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06-08-2017, 03:02 PM #122Scream And Fly VIP
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we had to recore one that had never been in the water, never had an engine drilled
chopper gun construction, there are places that barely have a layer of resin over the core never mind any fiberglass or chop
places where water can sit, combined with almost bare balsa is not a good recipe.
also consider that all the core is placed in the boat at once and chopper gun over, so once one area starts to get wet the rest acts like a sponge.
The backside of the wood for the deck does not even have resin on it, it has wood sealer like you would put before you stain a piece of wood. it almost smells like kerosene. And its entirely covered. My theory is someone at the factory probably rolls entire sheets of plywood before they are even cut up, they lay them in the boat, chopper gun over the top
No one is blaming a previous owner, its just going to happenRaybo Marine http://www.raybomarine.com/
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06-08-2017, 03:10 PM #123
1996 Four Winns Unlimited U-19 351 I/O Deep V
1977 HydroStream Viper Merc 1500 XS
1981 Baja 17 Bow Rider Merc 1500
2 Pool Rafts
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06-08-2017, 04:16 PM #124Screaming And Flying!
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Never in the water or engine mounted, that's like NOS . Really, kept inside etc and bad core? Hydrophilic SOB
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06-08-2017, 05:24 PM #125Scream And Fly VIP
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06-08-2017, 05:46 PM #126Screaming And Flying!
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What led you to check the core with such a remarkable find? I mean, if I had a piece of core in my living room for decades I don't believe it would degrade a whole lot.
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06-08-2017, 06:48 PM #127Scream And Fly VIP
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The owner asked me to cut the floor and check.
i doubt the boat spent its entire life indoors, at some point imsure it got left outside, got hosed out, washed
skaters get it too and they are hand laid vacuum bagged epoxy boats, but inner skin is thin and plenty of places for water to sit ,it penetrates from the inside
just looked at a 24 guy bought it sight unseen and now has a mess on his handsRaybo Marine http://www.raybomarine.com/
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06-08-2017, 07:13 PM #128Screaming And Flying!
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06-09-2017, 04:15 AM #129Screaming And Flying!
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One way to prevent water penetration is to paint white waxed gell over any area with core. You can see any hole and fill it with the gell.
83 V-King, 96 Mariner, 200 hp ff block 2.5 w/a 28p choppa
We gotta clean this liberal mess up, VOTE TRUMP TO MAGA!
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06-09-2017, 08:17 AM #130
^^^
Before the days of plastic wrap?
Scroll down to the bottom for the picture.
http://hydrostream.org/History.htmJames H. W2F a V-King... Want 2 Fly a V-King
Dedicated Site for Hydrostreams >> http://hydrostreamforums.com/
My Project 1979 V-King restore >> http://hydrostreamforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2761
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06-09-2017, 02:07 PM #1315000 RPM
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09-28-2017, 10:52 PM #132
1996 Four Winns Unlimited U-19 351 I/O Deep V
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09-29-2017, 08:08 AM #133Screaming And Flying!
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Very nice work. Any idea as to how much weight it gained in the reconstruct. Only reason I ask this is, I believe the factory had a very strict weight goal and it shows by the lack of glass in certain areas where we would add material when doing it over. I know my ''83'' V-King prob was a more robust boat as it had glass over all the wood. It was built for a V-6, so weight wasn't as big a deal. The Vipers were made for the IL-6 and 4 cyl motors, so they had to be light to perform. Will be a beauty when done i'm sure.
83 V-King, 96 Mariner, 200 hp ff block 2.5 w/a 28p choppa
We gotta clean this liberal mess up, VOTE TRUMP TO MAGA!
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09-29-2017, 10:03 AM #134
That's a great question that I don't know the answer to. My instructions were to make the boat structurally sound and sealed up tight so it would last forever. I don't want to go through this twice. I probably gained some weight but I am willing to take the trade off. I'm running a 1500XS which weighs under 300 lbs (253 according to John Tiger) so I save some weight over a V6 there. I'm hoping the boat will run mid to upper 70s. We'll see. I know I'll be happy in the end.
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09-29-2017, 10:54 AM #135Screaming And Flying!
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Better to add some glass, I agree.... Weight won't matter in the end. I would guess, maybe 50#s at most. But it will last a lifetime. A Viper, 1500xs and a 28p chopper back in the day was a potent lil rocket. Maybe 80mph with just 6 gals, batt and a driver. I had a 15' Allison with a 1500XS back in "78" and the Vipers would run right with me. And that Allison was a real tater chip.
83 V-King, 96 Mariner, 200 hp ff block 2.5 w/a 28p choppa
We gotta clean this liberal mess up, VOTE TRUMP TO MAGA!
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