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    Ok, here's where I ended up with the magnets..... I looked at four different engines and this is the position they were in. I think the pic I got off the internet was for a v-6 60 degree looper.....



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    Pic you got off the internet is NOT a 60 degree flywheel it is however a DI flywheel. No center fire ring but has teeth for a CPS.

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    I am going to say keyway points to dead center of 1 of the magnets. I have looked at 20 flywheels online and many point all different directions,however several point dead center to magnet. I looked at crossflow flywheel and they use 12 magnets with sets of 2 maybe 3/16 apart then 1" gap to next set , and keyway points to center of set of 2 magnets. I will have a answer for you from someone who will know later today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racer View Post
    Pic you got off the internet is NOT a 60 degree flywheel it is however a DI flywheel. No center fire ring but has teeth for a CPS.
    Yes 60* flywheel has 5 bolt holes and a hole for a dowel. No crank taper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flabum1017 View Post
    Ok, here's where I ended up with the magnets..... I looked at four different engines and this is the position they were in. I think the pic I got off the internet was for a v-6 60 degree looper.....



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    Ok that would be wrong, keyway should point at edge of magnet without notch in it. What you stated in post #8 was wrong, charge coil is charged when magnet crosses coil and peak voltage is at center of magnet. Coil builds to center of magnet then drops off to end of magnet. CDI sent me these 2 pictures of looper flywheels that have never been on motor only on there test wheel to test stators and both point same way.




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    Quote Originally Posted by racer View Post
    The one today that had not been touched. Key way at 12 o'clock the left edge of the top magnet was aligned with the edge of the key way putting right edge of magnet at about 2.
    Yep should have listened to this guy,Al is rarely,if ever, wrong!
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    The keyway to magnet orientation differs between the 1987 and earlier V6 looper flywheels and the 1988 and later models due to the different ignition systems

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfmarine1 View Post
    Yep should have listened to this guy,Al is rarely,if ever, wrong!

    You're absolutely right.... I spoke with CDI today too before I saw the responses here today (he said "funny, I had a guy call today about the same damn thing!"),

    I do have two boats at the marina with 4 of these same engines running fine with the magnets oriented the way they are in the pic I posted. Guess I'll pull the magnets off this flywheel and do them the way Racer originally says..............

    Thanks for your help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by racer View Post
    Pic you got off the internet is NOT a 60 degree flywheel it is however a DI flywheel. No center fire ring but has teeth for a CPS.

    I haven't worked on many of either...... but I knew it wasn't a 90 degree non-dfi looper flywheel....... thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flabum1017 View Post
    You're absolutely right.... I spoke with CDI today too before I saw the responses here today (he said "funny, I had a guy call today about the same damn thing!"),

    I do have two boats at the marina with 4 of these same engines running fine with the magnets oriented the way they are in the pic I posted. Guess I'll pull the magnets off this flywheel and do them the way Racer originally says..............

    Thanks for your help!
    At least you will know how well the loctite held! The other problem I see with using loctite is the flywheel gets hot, and that is usually how you break a bolt or flywheel taper with loctite on it,you heat it. I would think about ordering the BRP magnet epoxy kit from them.0431929

    I always like discussions like this because I always learn something,never to old to learn something. Thanks Flabum
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    Quote Originally Posted by perfmarine1 View Post
    At least you will know how well the loctite held! The other problem I see with using loctite is the flywheel gets hot, and that is usually how you break a bolt or flywheel taper with loctite on it,you heat it. I would think about ordering the BRP magnet epoxy kit from them.0431929

    Loctite says 500 degrees........ If that flywheel hits 500 degrees, there won't be much of a motor left LOL...... seriously, I've been using red loctite in flywheels for a long time and never had any issues.......

    I have a nickle glued to the shop floor with red loctite......... it's stuck pretty good..............



    Loctite makes a bearing retention compound that's thicker and would probably work well too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flabum1017 View Post
    Loctite says 500 degrees........ If that flywheel hits 500 degrees, there won't be much of a motor left LOL...... seriously, I've been using red loctite in flywheels for a long time and never had any issues.......

    I have a nickle glued to the shop floor with red loctite......... it's stuck pretty good..............



    Loctite makes a bearing retention compound that's thicker and would probably work well too.
    What red loctite are you using,242 strength goes down to 25% at 150*



    Ok that's *c so it is pretty darn hot, it does make a sharp drop with heat!
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    271......... 242 is blue if I'm not mistaken
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    242 is blue, the factory epoxy does work well. Had to reindex the center fire ring on one today, it was from a 92 and the center does index different from 87 prior.

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    Is there a kit that includes magnets?

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