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    I just got a G2 250HO installed on my Checkmate. It's a beautiful motor. I don't have any insight yet on performance as I haven't had the chance to run it yet, it should be a screamer. One thing to take into consideration, and I'm not trying ot push you away from the Rude, but I've read that Ranger is upping the HP rating for the 621FS to 350...you may want to research that one. I've heard it on some of the boards from guys who went to the sumer Dealer Meetings for Ranger. Just my 2 cents. BTW, here's a pic of my new brute...gotta love the color match panels. My motor was a crate motor I bought about a year ago. Was just installed this past week. It was an early production run motor in that it doesn't have the power steering or the auto trim, which I believe are standard features now. You need to confirm that, before you buy...but one nice feature of the G2 is that the steering pump is internal to the motor's mid section. Thus no need for an external hydraulic pump in your boat. Also, my motor needed 8 different service bulletins (2 recalls included) performed. All of those are now standard on new G2 orders. I remeber how badly everyone bad mouth the V-Rods when they came out and now a lot of criticism from folks regarding the G2's looks...beauty is the eye of the beholder and I think it's gorgeous.


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    Let us know how it performs. One thing I never understood was if the new DFI engines were better on emissions than 4 cycles at low RPM then why is Merc and Yammy going away from em. A merc rep told me at a boat show that his understanding is that the problem is that catalytic converters will be required soona nd that the Verado's and four stokes were designed to accommodate them when the do. ???? If this is true how will the G2's work around this ?


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    I reckon brp know more about different engines in different markets than Merc and we can see what they have bet on.
    Not to mention brp own the best emission based 2 stroke technology.
    The japs gave up as they have zero technology for emission 2 strokes
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    Quote Originally Posted by 22R View Post
    Let us know how it performs. One thing I never understood was if the new DFI engines were better on emissions than 4 cycles at low RPM then why is Merc and Yammy going away from em. A merc rep told me at a boat show that his understanding is that the problem is that catalytic converters will be required soona nd that the Verado's and four stokes were designed to accommodate them when the do. ???? If this is true how will the G2's work around this ?


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    Here is a chart highlighting the certified emissions levels of each outboard brand in the 200-300hp segment.
    (Source: CARB and/or US EPA Databases)

    BRP has stated that all G2 E-TEC's are "Cat Ready". We are told catalytic converters for outboards will be here in a few years. (2019-2020) Looks like BRP is well prepared.

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    16' Samurai 135hp Johnson sold
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    16' Action Evinrude Strangler sold
    21' Olympia 2.6L Johnson sold
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    20' Sanger 3.6L Evinrude V8 sold
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    Quote Originally Posted by 22R View Post

    One thing I never understood was if the new DFI engines were better on emissions than 4 cycles at low RPM then why is Merc and Yammy going away from em. A merc rep told me at a boat show that his understanding is that the problem is that catalytic converters will be required soona nd that the Verado's and four stokes were designed to accommodate them when the do. ???? If this is true how will the G2's work around this ?

    My understanding is that at the moment there are no new emission regulations on the book yet. There are many proposals from various parties and entities, but nothing required as of this date.

    Engineers at BRP have stated that the G2 motors will function without catalyst converters if the more reasonable proposals get passed and enforced - but the 4-strokes will probably need the high-temperature, expensive, and fragile catalytic converters

    Here is a chart of the popular 150 HP class of outboards and how they rate emission-wise


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    Cool I just wish they would start producing a lighter 200 HP one like 430 pound range.

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    there are 3 g2's on 21 's here and so far so good, my G1 has been flawless so far ........
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    The japs gave up as they have zero technology for emission 2 strokes
    Tohatsu licensed the Orbital system, just like Mercury (and OMC) did. Nothing would stop Yamaha (who developed their own HPDI technology), Suzuki and Honda from licensing it as well.

    Well, in Honda's case, there is actually an ideological hate of 2-stroke engines that goes all the way back to the founder.

    The reality is that customers love 4-strokes, and Mercury and the Japanese manufacturers are adapting to that situation.
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    I dont think the customers know
    They just see the end user issues, performance, ease of use , fuel economy, cost to operate etc.
    Cant see a 4 stroke winning all that over a 2 stroke especially with all that CO2 damaging the environment.
    The G in G2 is for Greenpeace I overheard once....
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    Talked with a large dealer yesterday that I have known for many years. He told me the G2's have been very good, has a pair of 300's on a personal boat with 400 hours and neither one has been touched. Also told me the later G1's have also been very good. Said that the engines have become extremely reliable.

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