Two Stroke Only, Chapter Two....

[MODVP22]

Come on down!

We thought we were done until I stumbled on the extra gourdes Cheryl got for Halloween decoration They blow up good !

Ski, on the insulation, I looked at the foam and saw it to be expensive (as Tommy said) and inefficient as far as R value.
I am having 6" rolls of R-19, 4' wide rolled in-between the 6" x 6" posts w/plastic vapor barrier over it. They are running 2 x 4's horizontally (as furring strips) to attach the 7/16" OSB plywood too.

Am also looking at heat sources but probably do nothing ($$$) until next yr. Been watching youtube videos on building recycled engine oil furnaces and love the concept.
I also like the $50. kits to turn to 55 gallon drums into a wood burning heater. Even though my property has an indefinite supply of wood, I heated a house w/wood for 13 yrs and I cut/split all my own wood.
Not excited about the time/PIA of either option.

Enter into that discussion, a buddy calling and offering me a free propane furnace being removed from a warehouse. Can either convert it to engine oil or have a propane tank (my house is propane) set. I pay the bill bills but, no fuss no muss.

Gourdes and pumpkins are awesome to shoot, LOL. I have a friend that almost bought a waste oil furnace-do the research on them. He's glad he didn't go with it. I'm using propane, diesel/kerosene, and a wood furnace. Helps if you have lots of trees around too.

[Robby321]

Enter into that discussion, a buddy calling and offering me a free propane furnace being removed from a warehouse. Can either convert it to engine oil or have a propane tank (my house is propane) set. I pay the bill bills but, no fuss no muss.

First off, I'm with ya on the cutting and splitting wood. I get a cord delivered fall, and have the kid near me stack it in the wood shed. But even thats getting old (or me at least). But I'd GRAB THAT PROPANE HEATER NOW! I have one from a house teardown got free. I'm all electric house (as cheap hydro power here) but I did run it off 20lb tank (on floor in the pic) and it works fine, but the tank don't last long. I'm thinking about buying from Home Depot a big tank or rent one (gotta check prices, or look used), install it outside and run a copper line in and get propane delivered. Just gotta "pay the bill". All you would have to do is plumb in a copper line tank to shop. So thats the easiest and cheapest way to go for starts.

Plus don't get to carried away on insulation, as soon as the heats off and ya back in the house it will cool off fast anyway. Ya just want heat when your out there. Like winter here when 30's 40's outside, I'm basking in T shirt and 75 degrees. But over night will cool down to 50/55. Pic my heater. My shop is only 24x24 so heats up fast!

Pic

[delawarerick]

I used all propane in De and it was not cheap I had r22 walls and alot of heat leaks to say and I got smashed with propane I burned 250 lbs a or more a month and that was not cheap I rented the tank in the ground it was cheaper than buying a big one and if it ever leaked they replaced it. Highest bill was 700 smackers and we were still wearing long johns but don't have that to worry about down here

[Robby321]

Yep, propane aint cheap but down to 2.59 gallon here now. And for house heat 24/7? Gonna cost ya. I'm all electric here house/shop lights. $35M summer, winter highest is maybe $125 a month. That might be reversed in FLA as winter no A/C needed, but summer ya do. I don't have A/C here as no needed summer. Thing is location for HVAC and power. Back in Illinois had Nat Gas and the garage was connected house out the kitchen. Had a 6 inch pipe vent out from house heater there as the washer/dryer(had a well) water softener was out there. If house was 70, garage was 70.

But if no Nat Gas supply the crib ya gotta do what ya gotta do. And thats Elec or Propane. Or wood stove (still the best and cheapest) and pellet stoves are pricey but put out some good heat. But we are talking not a living in house here, just a shop. Actually I bought this place when moved BECAUSE the new stick frame shop was a blank canvas to "build my way"...and it even came with a house!

A friend mine here (has dough) built a house and LARGE shop with radiant in floor electric heat the shop. One side it is his bikes and the 65 GTO, partitioned off is his wood working shop. Plus a HS friend mine living out here built a house, with "floor heat". DAMN thats COMFY COZY! But "bucks"

[Robby321]

Lets get back to "shop build" As its our (don't come here summer as ya will stay) "Famous for all it does is rain here" November PNW is "going down". So in the shop messing. Had to dig into some my pix taken before, and some now kinda recent. Boats outside under shelters or covered season, but its now all about my "junk out here". Sorry if hijacking the thread here, but some might get some ideas what I did. And worked fine too! Some the "shop" before and after....(more post to come)

[Robby321]

Look it now "stuffed"

[Robby321]

And I did this the back side for "gotta have it stuff" and 6 sealed G-Cans bottom, more stuff" as I "gotta have stuff". But its MY "stuff" and the neighbors know it, but if need anything, skip the 40 mile R/T town.."go see Robby!" And I sell nothing, but damn sure give it to ya if needed, and I got it. Some how this dogpatch is like "doritos"..well make more.."stuff"

And I'm shop lap and its me hoping pix show, or go house a "fix it".

[Robby321]

And did a 8x20 side shed. Really don't remember putting any thing in it, but before and after..

[Instigator]

I will have the skin off the three 16' x 12' 6" doors (if I can get the nails out w/o destroying it) when they come down and I was thinking lean to.

Rick, we are in the sticks and have elec and propane only. We have a 2 K sq ft, 2 story house, sealed fairly well, and w/the spare rooms closed off we made it through last winter on a tank and a half of propane w/o freezing us too bad, I think 300 gal tank.

Freebee furnace will go on the ceiling w/ceiling fans to follow.

Funny, after 9 yrs in Fla, now I am quite the wussy when it comes to the cold though
Trying to break that now

[baja200merk]

The heat down here won't give us a break this year. Supposed to be 87 today and high 80s all week. Seems like it's been this hot or hotter since April. I wouldn't mind some 60-70s right now!

[MODVP22]

The heat down here won't give us a break this year. Supposed to be 87 today and high 80s all week. Seems like it's been this hot or hotter since April. I wouldn't mind some 60-70s right now!

you poor soul. I had to turn the heat on in the garage last night.

[Instigator]

The heat down here won't give us a break this year. Supposed to be 87 today and high 80s all week. Seems like it's been this hot or hotter since April. I wouldn't mind some 60-70s right now!

I listen to Rush Limbaugh on an i-heart radio station from Cocoa Beach Florida so every break I hear the local news. Monday was forecast to match a record high of 89.

Talked to Miami Dave a couple days ago and he was saying same for down there and was working on a roof

[Robby321]

Weather! Ya can't win! And speaking of weather we have a good rain and windstorm off the ocean today and just now passing east. Power only out once. And any "weather here"? Well weather damn sure don't go west...(but watching weather west winds in FLA and feeds the coming west storms moisture midwest) Watching the weather today and Gary? Better "batten" down the hatches. Calling summer over midwest soon. Saying Chitown gets snow W/E.
But heres a fast way to start a shop woodstove shop fire. Propane and a weed burner torch! 5/10 minutes and ya got heat! Been doing this a decade.

[Instigator]

The crew started the insulation and walls today. My three 12' x 12'6" doors came in and installer is waiting on me to finish framing for them.Spent the last 2 days tearing out and moving everything I spent the previous yr arranging. My killer work bench was a PIA!Forgot how strong I built that damn thing. Could have parked a car on it.

[MODVP22]

The crew started the insulation and walls today. My three 12' x 12'6" doors came in and installer is waiting on me to finish framing for them.Spent the last 2 days tearing out and moving everything I spent the previous yr arranging. My killer work bench was a PIA!Forgot how strong I built that damn thing. Could have parked a car on it.

What are you planning on using for insulating the ceiling?