New 200 XS 2.5 Consumer Outboard

**Michael J Giesler** · 10-21-2015, 10:03 AM

The new gen 2 200 ros makes between 238-242 horsepower as it sits right now it has plenty of power

**Greg G** · 10-21-2015, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by xb03fs

What about have both a 200 and 225 so they can have a 230 ish and a 245 ish version...so legally they can keep the overseas racing motors compliant and make us happy hear. Just do it through ECU rev limit so it doesn't cost them anymore and they can pocket an extra $1000 on the 225 version. maybe make the 200 make 230 HP 6650 rpm rev limit and the 225 make 245 @6850 rpms rev limit

That is not a bad idea. It could all be done via the ECU.

**Greg G** · 10-21-2015, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Michael J Giesler

The new gen 2 200 ros makes between 238-242 horsepower as it sits right now it has plenty of power

Michael, what does the 2015 Gen 2 200XS ROS SS weigh exactly, do you happen to know? And what year did the Gen 2 configuration start production?

**JWTjr.** · 10-21-2015, 10:24 AM

Heaps of praise for what you are trying to do. I have my doubts that Mercury will respond at all, given their behavior toward and position on our little slice of the market over the past 10 years. Their direction has been quite clear since the early 2000s. While a $16k price tag on an engine made from existing parts seems reasonable to most, I doubt (but I hope) it will to Merc. As someone said, it's now all about $30k 400R 635-lb. four strokes for the well-heeled angler market. "Little 2-strokes" are not cool anymore (cue sad music theme).

**xb03fs** · 10-21-2015, 10:35 AM

I hope Mercury will listen. My boat is 3 liter capable but I am willing to give up some topend (probably 5-10 mph vs 250XS) for the better handling, holeshot and fuel economy of the 2.5 Liter if it is priced right with warranty.

**FMP** · 10-21-2015, 10:42 AM

Straight up , what's wrong with a 20" 200-250 HO RUDE? Too heavy, slow , lu ???

**outasite** · 10-21-2015, 11:57 AM

Would this motor you speak of, be able to meet currant and short term emissions? I thought that was the kiss of death for the two strokes.

**xb03fs** · 10-21-2015, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by outasite

Would this motor you speak of, be able to meet currant and short term emissions? I thought that was the kiss of death for the two strokes.

Yes, it would be an opti

**sumfast** · 10-21-2015, 01:01 PM

Jacos Marine has the 200XS ROS 15" listed last year on there website for $16,500 I called them two weeks ago and she said they had went up in price $4500. That's crazy, anyway nice letter I'm curious to hear the response will be C:\Users\dhiggs\Documents\Videos\DSC_0967.JPG

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**bigboy** · 10-21-2015, 04:17 PM

Dont think You Will get their attention with this email. Now if you would make a list of all the potential buyers (fe 50) and multiply that with 20k for each motor and the total is 1million dollar than you might get their attention! Good luck!

**powerabout** · 10-21-2015, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by outasite

Would this motor you speak of, be able to meet currant and short term emissions? I thought that was the kiss of death for the two strokes.

DFI outboards will meet emission regs for years to come as they are cleaner than the current 4 strokes especially at low speed.

**Todd D** · 10-21-2015, 09:49 PM

The 2.5xs built in 2005 is the same motor as todays current gen 2 200xs with a couple small changes.

The crank is splined for a 3L driveshaft, the reed plate has runners that extend forward into the horn and the ecu has a WOT of 6750. (gen 2 200xs ROS is 7,000 and the SST is 8,000)

I don't think that you'll ever come close to the pricing you want as dealer cost on the current 200xs is 20K !

I can't imagine that Mercury cares about us because they just blew off the twin engine cats that race offshore in both the SBI and XCat. SBI did testing all season with these motors on a Doug Wright and Mercury couldn't make them readily available as required by the class rules. Next season SBI will be adding a 300xs option to the class to run with the 280's.

**powerabout** · 10-21-2015, 11:23 PM

Nice opening there for a foreign engine builder to fill the gap, would be all PR not profit but it would put them on the map

**Greg G** · 10-22-2015, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by Todd D

The 2.5xs built in 2005 is the same motor as todays current gen 2 200xs with a couple small changes. The crank is splined for a 3L driveshaft, the reed plate has runners that extend forward into the horn and the ecu has a WOT of 6750. (gen 2 200xs ROS is 7,000 and the SST is 8,000)

Great info, did not know that. 245hp, 7,000rpm, and 439 pounds sounds like the perfect fit for the "little guys".