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09-22-2015, 10:42 AM #31The Historic Photo Master
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Your right Butch. All the Donzi's were inboards then, with a "very" few exceptions of sterndrive(s). An inboard boat needed to be modified for outboards, which was basicly frowned upon in those days, as it was thought to have "cheapened" the boat. What you older guys are forgetting, but I know you remember, is that it was discovered by Dick Cole, Richard Bertram, and many others...was that the farthur you sat towards the transom in rough water, the more tolerant the ride. This went for inboards and outboards alike. Hence, the aft helms/cockpits. Remember?
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09-22-2015, 11:02 AM #32The Historic Photo Master
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09-22-2015, 12:18 PM #33
Was it not Jerry Langer on the back cover of the 1968 Evinrude catalog with the X-115s?.....X-115, one of the most attractive outboards ever built...IMHO..
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09-22-2015, 03:39 PM #34The Historic Photo Master
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Remember Howard Weilers 27 Magnum well. It was during the factory horsepower wars, at the corporate level, and at the publics perception level. What brand you prefered was important & people were glad to tell you why. Howards triple Chrysler/Mercury/Johnson outboards were 125 horsepower each. An in-line four, an inline six...and a V-4. Of course, we all said at the time, that the Merc had to go in the middle because it was the most powerful. (no...seriously, lol))
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09-22-2015, 04:03 PM #35Screaming And Flying!
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Jerry Langer's Donzi was a factory boat that Don A supplied him. I have no idea if they were pals or not in 1964, as I was still a figment of my parents imagination. It was a 19' Hornet and was delivered very early in 1965. Now, to your specific point of "needing to be modified" I'm pretty confident that Jerry Langer's Hornet had the splash well done at the Donzi factory but there is probably only one guy left on earth that would know that for sure. Langer rigged that 19' Hornet at his Miami Beach dealership for triple Evinrude 90hp wackers with Davey Wilson after hours. Davey was 15 years younger than Jerry. They raced the boat against a lot of bigger inboard boats and beat 'em.
The Langer Hornet may offer a clue to help ID the "Marina Seven" race boat pictured below............
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09-22-2015, 04:09 PM #36Screaming And Flying!
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Good grab on the letters. If the "Marina Seven" race boat was in fact a Donzi it would sync up to what lilabner and Mr. Brown thought it was as well. If that is true, it would have to be '64 or '65 hull though based on what folks have said about the OB's on the back. Not much reason to put Donzi on the side of a boat that was NOT actually one back then.
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09-22-2015, 10:26 PM #37
Only other persons might know the hull are Bob Warwork at Raveau, and Tom Sheldon in Melrose, Fl. Tom is from Miami and raced there for years.
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09-22-2015, 10:31 PM #38Screaming And Flying!
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09-23-2015, 07:17 AM #396000 RPM
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09-23-2015, 07:53 AM #40Screaming And Flying!
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Thanks T2x, I had no idea you were racing in our area back in 1964/1965, sorry!
I agree with you, the "Marina Seven" boat would have been hard for you (and others) not to remember especially running Johnson twins. It is not a West Coast boat for sure. Midwest or Bermuda is possible. Sam James suggested we contact Charlie McCarthy. I sent an email to him through his site a few days ago, but I have not gotten anything back from him. He probably gets this type of request every week and can't be bothered. Mr. James told me on the phone that McCarthy had been given a very large cache of old race boat photos from a noted marine photographer (name escapes me) before the gent passed and he might have something on Marina Seven.
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09-23-2015, 07:22 PM #4120 Foot Switzer Wing 2 X S3000 (Dust'n the Wind II)
!6 foot Wood Eltro Vee (2X Merc 1500's) (Dust'n the Wind IV)
15 foot Powercat 15C (2 X Merc 1500) (Dust'n the Wind III)
(Single engine boats are lacking something)
15’ Wooden Switzer Shooting Star...
16 foot Lee Craft Merc S 3000-(Gold Dust II)
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09-23-2015, 07:36 PM #4220 Foot Switzer Wing 2 X S3000 (Dust'n the Wind II)
!6 foot Wood Eltro Vee (2X Merc 1500's) (Dust'n the Wind IV)
15 foot Powercat 15C (2 X Merc 1500) (Dust'n the Wind III)
(Single engine boats are lacking something)
15’ Wooden Switzer Shooting Star...
16 foot Lee Craft Merc S 3000-(Gold Dust II)
(The exception proves the rule)
Obsolete and Proud of it
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09-25-2015, 05:29 PM #44Screaming And Flying!
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Bingo, T2x ......... Thibodeaux was the name that Sam mentioned. And yes, he said that Charlie McCarthy had somehow become the final custodian of a tremendous number of vintage race photographs from a wide variety of sources and had taken very good care of all of them over the years. It sounds like this guy Charlie might have the single largest stash of old race boat photos on earth even though he was not old enough to be racing in 1964 as you say. Good to see that someone is caring for that old stuff. Maybe somewhere in the 1,000's of photos he has is something that would ID the "Marina Seven" race boat.
On a side note, he should digitize them as film won't last forever, but I digress.
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09-26-2015, 12:36 PM #457000 RPM
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Hank Bowman---shortly before he was killed at the Stadium, 1963
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