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    wich boat and why

    im new to the stv's hydrostreams and mirage boats....some are just for racing some for play. some drive better some dont....so

    i like the looks a stv or mirage....couple nice ones listed for sale now....im not ready to buy yet...so what should i look for and why?

    what should i know before i buy?

    my choice of motors will be a 300x..

    just to clarify im well over 100 right now running a stroker 300xss
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    1. The stv or mirage will be the easiest for you to drive. 2. Both of these hulls will give you a false sense of ability early in your ownership (don't under estimate what can happen and how fast it happens if something goes bad at speed on the water). 3. It will be the biggest thrill that you can imagine (and its legal in a lot of areas).

    I have never owned a mirage but have driven several. I have owned several STVs and keep going back to them. You are starting at the top of ladder with a 3L./stv combo-they are the real deal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwNGbNNHS8k

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    Maybe you should educate yourself before buying this type of boat. My suggestion would buy a 16' john boat with a 25 hp engine first then maybe step up to a glastron with 85 hp merc. After that maybe a 17 hydrostream with a 150. Your not ready for an STV or Mirage in my opinion.
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    what they are saying is before you go out and buy a stv or mirage you will need lots of seat time before you even think about going fast ,trim settings so you don't blow it over ,able to read the water ,wind ,you will need someone to show you first hand the ropes , I have had 4 boats starting with 14 tri haul with 85 evinrude 39 mph down hill,1988 20 switzer 200 merc 74 mph took all summer to learn that one ,1988 23 Daytona twin 245 mercs 108 mph went 2 summers learning the boat before I did a top end run ,I ran it to 80/90 a lot before that till I was ready ,now my 4 th boat 97 22 rapid craft twister 850 lbs ,twin 245 mercs ,and o boy what a hoot ,things happen real fast in this one I was not ready for but I,m getting the hang of it I,m at 100 mph and I,m good with that because it feels like were going way faster some day when I get the ready and the time and place I will do a top end run which is around 117 mph or so .take it slow and easy for some time because if you crash you wont be able to tell us why. I,m 56 and have been in dozens of boats of friends , family have gone 120 to 160 mph and really don't care if I go faster than 100 anymore , I like a 75 mph set across a lake all day .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Shot Merc View Post
    Maybe you should educate yourself before buying this type of boat. My suggestion would buy a 16' john boat with a 25 hp engine first then maybe step up to a glastron with 85 hp merc. After that maybe a 17 hydrostream with a 150. Your not ready for an STV or Mirage in my opinion.
    Rob may be overdoing it a bit, but before you buy a boat capable of over 100 mph it would be good to get some real time (years) in a 75-80 mph boat that is less likely to kill you in a snap.
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    thats funny....already every reply thinks ive never driven over 80.....ok guys i have a stroker 300x right now.....does that qualify as fast?
    and yes its over 100
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    the impact with water goes up with the square of the speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskeetshooter View Post
    thats funny....already every reply thinks ive never driven over 80.....ok guys i have a stroker 300x right now.....does that qualify as fast?
    and yes its over 100
    If u already have a pad boat time for a stv whole diffrent feel
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    You obviously like your Stroker (nice boats). If you switch to a mod v you will most likely get bored with it like I did and go back to a v bottom. I have owned 6 STVs several of which ran near 130 (still have 1), couple Allisons (01 drag the favorite), and numerous Hydrostreams. I like driving the v bottom much better. The mods are more stable at high speeds but a v is more fun. We had a couple Strokers run with us for a few years and they both ran right at 100. You will miss it.

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    I'm into more stable
    but fast acelleration
    My Stroker with a 26 bravo worked will pin u to the seat till it hits about 95
    my 32 performer pulls good well past 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskeetshooter View Post
    thats funny....already every reply thinks ive never driven over 80.....ok guys i have a stroker 300x right now.....does that qualify as fast?
    and yes its over 100
    Yes that qualifies you. Sorry bro I had a few drinks when I posted
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    Quote Originally Posted by xskeetshooter View Post
    I'm into more stable
    but fast acelleration
    My Stroker with a 26 bravo worked will pin u to the seat till it hits about 95
    my 32 performer pulls good well past 100
    what size range are you looking at?

    How big of a boat can you still fit in the garage?

    What is the budget?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xskeetshooter View Post
    im new to the stv's hydrostreams and mirage boats....some are just for racing some for play. some drive better some dont....so

    i like the looks a stv or mirage....couple nice ones listed for sale now....im not ready to buy yet...so what should i look for and why?

    what should i know before i buy?

    my choice of motors will be a 300x..

    just to clarify im well over 100 right now running a stroker 300xss
    Get an STV then. Why? they are proven over and over. I would try to find a Wally built boat that is clean (Warren-Red Rocket) has one that is pretty much perfect. You are still taking a 33% mph gain and need to respect it (they are small boats).

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    yea the nuts n bolts of why....i respect anything above 5mph
    some are rotted out n such....the best yrs to buy ect....what to check on the hulls ect....
    not looking to break any records but have some fun....

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskeetshooter View Post
    yea the nuts n bolts of why....i respect anything above 5mph
    some are rotted out n such....the best yrs to buy ect....what to check on the hulls ect....
    not looking to break any records but have some fun....
    Theres not any one area that you need to look at on an STV that I am aware of. The fact of the matter is that they are getting years on their lives, and as they are rigged and de-rigged by different owners, things don't get sealed correctly (especially transoms), boats sit out in the weather ect. and rot happens. I would spend the money for a nice one so that you don't get into a project (unless that's what you want).

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