Xr-2002

[scj]

Dave,

Are you going to Jasper this weekend? I'll be there.
If you are interested in selling, I'm very interested.

[ally2dextreme]

I would think they would call these 2016 xr2002

[scj]

My order form says 2015

There will be a handful of 60th Anniversary Models made before the 2016's are produced.
Lee has the order forms with all the info and pricing.............

[ally2dextreme]

I can see the tie in but its October, I would say its a little late to call it a 15,I guess 20 years from now a 60th would be worth more than a 16....

[LongShot]

Dave,

Are you going to Jasper this weekend? I'll be there.
If you are interested in selling, I'm very interested.

Not interested n selling....could be used as a pattern. I have my XTB-21 windshield at the factory now waiting on getting new ones made.

[scj]

I can see the tie in but its October, I would say its a little late to call it a 15,I guess 20 years from now a 60th would be worth more than a 16....

You have a good point:

Model Year: This has been much discussed by boat manufacturers, dealers, and engine manufacturers as well as by the Coast Guard and the States.

As far as I am aware the only law requiring a model year designation is the Hull Identification Number regulations. Most boat manufacturers give their boats a model year and make changes to their model lines every year. However, small businesses generally don't make many changes from year to year and some never change their boats except to make improvements that are necessary. Most often these changes are not obvious and are in the actual structure rather than the appearance of the boat. So these builders often don't want to declare a model year. There are even some large boat builders who do this. Grand Banks rarely makes changes to their boats and a 1990 looks exactly like a 2000. They have in the past objected to putting a model year on their boats. So why use model year?
First is your customer. Customers like to know when a boat is new, or not. They like to know what model year it is. Model Year is not terribly important if you never change the boat, but if you make changes then it is.
Second, most states require a model year on the registration. But, this model year is taken right from the Hull Identification Number.
Recently engine manufacturers have been discussing not using a model year. Mainly this is so boat dealers can put a engine on a boat without worrying about whether the engine is the same model year as the boat, as long as it is new. However, the serial number of the engine would still be able to reveal the year of manufacture so there would be no confusion over parts numbers. A new model would be manufactured when a major change was made to the engine. This may work for engines but it is not as practical for boats.
The biggest problem with model year is a sales and inventory problem. If you have a boat in inventory from last year, and it has never been sold, is it a "New" boat or is it last years model? The HIN law says that you can't change the HIN once the boat enters interstate commerce. This means when it has been sold, or shipped to a dealer. But as long as it is still at the factory the builder is free to put whatever model year in the HIN that they wish. However, this can run into a problem with state registration if the model year is more than one year removed from the date of manufacture. So be cautious if you do this. After the boat leaves the factory, it becomes illegal to change the model year. A dealer, manufacturer or anyone else CAN NOT change a Hull Identification Number to update the model year no matter how long the boat sits on his lot. The Federal regulation requires that permission be obtained from the Coast Guard to make any alteration to the HIN. Also, a dealer or seller cannot misrepresent an older model as a current model year boat because most states would consider this consumer fraud. They can however state that it is a "New" boat as long as this is true.
When does a model year begin or end? As of 2009 the US Coast Guard began enforcing the model year regulation as it is written:
Model year means the period beginning August 1 of any year and ending on July 31 of the following year. Each model year is designated by the year in which it ends. Title 33 Code Of Federal Regulations Chapter I Part 181.3.
So Model year begins on August 1st and ends on July 31. Example: Model Year 2012 would begin August 1, 2011, and end July 31, 2012.
Prior to this the US Coast Guard had been allowing manufacturers to determine the model year. So older boats may have a different model year span than new boats. But new boats must use the definition as stated above. For the rules, go to the page on HINs.

[whipper]

Looking for a full length windshield to buy or borrow so I can have one made. Nancy said they're only offering the single console windshield like offered on the XB-2002 for the new 2015 XR-2002's.
The picture attached has the windshield like I'm looking for.

PM me please if you have one I can buy or borrow.



Thanks!

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OMG that XR is simply outrageously beautiful!!! WOW i love the looks and layout these boats!!!

[whipper]

BTW was there any XR2002,s that had zero wood? Maybe after 90 ?

[patchesII]

No. They all had wood, like the Drag boats

[ally2dextreme]

I believe there was one or two composites made,I believe the last one in 96 was..

[whipper]

Right i seem to recall an all composite XR02 not that you mentioned it thanks.

im taking it that the new 2015-16 model will also be all composite?

[ally2dextreme]

Right i seem to recall an all composite XR02 not that you mentioned it thanks.

im taking it that the new 2015-16 model will also be all composite?

Yes ,the floor as well

[LongShot]

I think there will be wood in the new ones unless ordered without. I have a 1994 that had factory aluminum grid/composite transom but stringers, floors and knee braces are wood.

[props4u2]

I think there will be wood in the new ones unless ordered without. I have a 1994 that had factory aluminum grid/composite transom but stringers, floors and knee braces are wood.

As Dave stated, the composite part was only the transom.

Darris is building a floor mold now to make the floor composite. The stringers will also be composite.
In other words, these will be the first total composite XR-2002's.

[JWTjr.]

Kudos to you and Darris, Lee, for getting this done. Congrats to the buyers too. Really nice to see.