Tuff Boat on Long Island

**dnelson964** · 08-02-2015, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by vnemous

Joe the only flaw if you can call it that is with all that warranty you will be hard pressed to do any upgrades to motor JMO
Fullers is both a Premiere Mercury and BRP dealer and BRP is a stickler for warranty work. They require engine reports for everything.

Good to know Mike. Which motor would your shop recommend better for this Tuff 21' ? The G1 or G2 ??

**vnemous** · 08-02-2015, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by dnelson964

Good to know Mike. Which motor would your shop recommend better for this Tuff 21' ? The G1 or G2 ??

Wow Dr talk about putting someone on the carpet. George and Kev went out to the introduction of the G2 when it came out. They rode in multiple boats with the G2 and for George with his Merc background to be impressed says a lot. Unfortunately nothing was rigged on anything like a sob so all I can say is the Etec has lots of grunt and that 7 year warranty is to die for. Hows that for being a politician

With that being said get something together so I can bring the super up there before the summers over.

**Dirk Pitt** · 08-02-2015, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by vnemous

Joe the only flaw if you can call it that is with all that warranty you will be hard pressed to do any upgrades to motor JMO
Fullers is both a Premiere Mercury and BRP dealer and BRP is a stickler for warranty work. They require engine reports for everything.

I know i wouldnt touch it during the warrenty period, If I have the motor that long, if it becomes an issue as far as performance Ill just install the x Im buying, and sell the G1, to start modify that motor and lose the warrenty would defeat one of the reasons why Im buying one

**Dirk Pitt** · 08-02-2015, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by vnemous

Wow Dr talk about putting someone on the carpet. George and Kev went out to the introduction of the G2 when it came out. They rode in multiple boats with the G2 and for George with his Merc background to be impressed says a lot. Unfortunately nothing was rigged on anything like a sob so all I can say is the Etec has lots of grunt and that 7 year warranty is to die for. Hows that for being a politician

With that being said get something together so I can bring the super up there before the summers over.

think about 7years! even if the boat was slower than the XS who cares

**vnemous** · 08-02-2015, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Dirk Pitt

think about 7years! even if the boat was slower than the XS who cares

Yeah considering what it cost to replace, fuel inj, air inj or compressor on a XS out of warranty makes the argument right there.

**dnelson964** · 08-02-2015, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by vnemous

Wow Dr talk about putting someone on the carpet. George and Kev went out to the introduction of the G2 when it came out. They rode in multiple boats with the G2 and for George with his Merc background to be impressed says a lot. Unfortunately nothing was rigged on anything like a sob so all I can say is the Etec has lots of grunt and that 7 year warranty is to die for. Hows that for being a politician

With that being said get something together so I can bring the super up there before the summers over.

All and any new info is good Mike......Motor starting to sound like an experiment space ship looking to be the new 'Maytag'. I think they need to offer solid mounts on them is my first recommendation.

See what can be worked out for a get together in future.....

**baja200merk** · 08-02-2015, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by gm250

mike sounds like the xs has alot of issue. I heard the xs is not working well on any of the progressions thinks I will stick with the fish motor. joe the tuff will look awsome with a white motor . if it runs good numbers great on fuel why ever look back at black. think I would buy a used lower and trick it out

we mod the 3.0 sporty to bolt up to the g1. I've done a few for friends and my brother. The way I do it allows you to swap the case back to stock at the boat ramp if you wanted. The factory mid, lower, water tube, drive/shift shafts are all left stock. Warranty saved

But I've been 105with a stock m2 no nose cone 1.85 gear and a worked 15x34et so I don't think the sporty is nessasary for this application.

**Dirk Pitt** · 08-02-2015, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by gm250

mike sounds like the xs has alot of issue. I heard the xs is not working well on any of the progressions think I will stick with the fish motor. joe the tuff will look awsome with a white motor . if it runs good numbers great on fuel why ever look back at black. think I would buy a used lower and trick it out

theres alot of them around here, its just not worth having change this, change that, modify this, modify that, (although some of the flyers have come up with some great ideas) ,all for a mere $200000,00

**Dirk Pitt** · 08-02-2015, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by vnemous

Joe the only flaw if you can call it that is with all that warranty you will be hard pressed to do any upgrades to motor JMO
Fullers is both a Premiere Mercury and BRP dealer and BRP is a stickler for warranty work. They require engine reports for everything.

Mike
do you still have the same boat that the glass work was done, I forget did you close up the well? or did you add a notch?

**vnemous** · 08-02-2015, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dirk Pitt

Mike
do you still have the same boat that the glass work was done, I forget did you close up the well? or did you add a notch?

No Joe I sold the challenger before I bought Ragus super. The well was still stock. Joey did the notch and fixed a crack in the hull. Wish I still had that boat. Would have made a great class 7 boat.

**Dirk Pitt** · 08-02-2015, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by vnemous

No Joe I sold the challenger before I bought Ragus super. The well was still stock. Joey did the notch and fixed a crack in the hull. Wish I still had that boat. Would have made a great class 7 boat.

Ragus boat is a piece of jewery, I was involved in every step when mike had raybo actually rebuild that boat, raybo of course did a masterful job, and Rague spend a ton doing that project, you bought the right one....

**vnemous** · 08-02-2015, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Dirk Pitt

Ragus boat is a piece of jewery, I was involved in every step when mike had raybo actually rebuild that boat, raybo of course did a masterful job, and Rague spend a ton doing that project, you bought the right one....

Now if I could just get it over 105

**Dirk Pitt** · 08-02-2015, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by gm250

the way I see it is the boat stock is faster then the others the motor is far what 280 hp great on gas great combo for everyday use. if you grabbed a lower for $1000 and modded it you would have a great setup. I run a stock yamaha and have fun with great fuel economy merc's around hear don't want to run us anyway. the retirement rate is high on Long Island for merc the only guys that are left that will run are p22 and hoser. Yamaha makes 280 hp just like etec

I hope Merc is reading this, as far as hp joey who is running this show, tells me the G1 makes about 304 hp, he has been talking to BPR tech for some time, he cut his teeth with Evenrudes, but as you know he has been merc's poster child for over 40 years, there was a time when merc came out with a new race motor for the big guys, they went with joey, during that time I must have bought (all New) maybe 15 different variants of their products, and I must say Mercury was always very good to me, whenever I had an issue, but he was the one that pushed me over the edge to go white

**Dirk Pitt** · 08-02-2015, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by vnemous

Now if I could just get it over 105

Mike I drove that boat many times it always felt light to me, I know first hand how much weight Raybo saved during the rebuild of your boat, its a beauty!!! I know your close stop

Im sure on a chrisp october morning, with the back seat out and a non labbed 4 blade et your north of 95mph your running a x right?