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Thread: Hoss Triton I
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03-30-2015, 11:51 AM #31
Age, plus added surfacing stress all can add up on high performance props. I've noted older and thinner blades might seem alittle faster but with newer 3L torque/ hp and higher speeds on heavier boats most have better long term prop luck with thicker ears with thicker root area. Though I have a new Triton I will use it sparingly and not as hard as I will run my HPD. The HPD was made to handle higher power and harder surfacing stress hence the beefier design made more for offshore use.
I tried an SRX once but tore off an ear at the root also and observed it had thin blade design also so never again. Others running 2.4-200 on 'half' my weight boats have less trouble running them, just my observation.
One of my HPD's was run for years over 100+ on an Allison w/2.5 power and has also run for a few years on my heavy rig with no problem so far. I was also advised by Tim at HOSS that an HPD was better suited for my set-up for the reasons I mentioned.
I think transomstand touched on this above also.1990 22' Activator Yami HPDI 300-sold-86.4
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03-30-2015, 01:40 PM #325000 RPM
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I own a 26, 28,30, 32, & 34. They are great props but like all surfacing props they all can and will crack eventually. I have seen a brand new Merc 26 ET on a 280 on a bullet bass boat crack. I have had cracks in my hoss props but haven't thrown a blade yet. The ones that did crack were thinned. I have thrown blades on real Yamaha props, big ear and small ear choppers. I know it is very disappointing but don't let it discourage you from buying a hoss prop. I have learned that usually the more I have a prop worked and the faster it gets the more frequent the cracks occur. The fastest Yamaha prop I ever owned I made 3 1/4 mile passes and loaned it to a friend he made 5 passes and it flung two blades off. He also agreed it was the fastest 1/4 mile prop he had run. Don't let it get you down. Hoss builds a fast prop.
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03-30-2015, 03:13 PM #335000 RPM
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Same boat as you wired and run a hoss hpd, great prop for handling and all around performance on an 03.everything ive read recommends the triton for lighter hulls then the 03.
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03-30-2015, 03:45 PM #346000 RPM
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I'm certainly not knocking the performance of the prop. It was one of the best handling props Ive ever used. Great launch and mid range. Not the fastest prop I own as its only a 28 pitch but the boat acted like it had power steering. 80 MPH I could take my hands of the wheel and mix another drink. The Spinelli DR-4 I have on there now, while faster by a wide margin than all of my other props , crabs somewhat and takes constant adjustment over 80. It's a handful.
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03-30-2015, 04:55 PM #355000 RPM
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I didnt think you were knocking the performance. Im surprised the dr4 was alot faster if its a 28 but they are all different animals on different boats. I had a hoss cut dr4 and a sporty that would crab above the pad too.
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03-30-2015, 09:17 PM #366000 RPM
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Best I was ever able to get out of the Hoss was 89 and change. DR-4 Ive run 95 on several occasions. The Hoss was like driving a cadillac up to speed where the DR-4 is more like a ornery mule. Oddly enough I dont think either one made it to the 7400 limiter.
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03-31-2015, 09:31 PM #37Scream And Fly VIP
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Here you go. Give it a go!
http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...305705-28-hoss
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03-31-2015, 10:34 PM #386000 RPM
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04-01-2015, 08:15 AM #40Scream And Fly VIP
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Didn't think it would last long at that price! Great props. Congratulations on snatching it up.
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04-01-2015, 09:47 AM #41
So this was a used prop? I could see your issue if you bought it brand new from Hoss, but clearly it's been worked by someone with "Allison" stamped on the side of it. Do you know if it was cracked and re-welded at some point??? That's not the manufacturers fault.
I've got a Triton, that I've run on my GS for 10 years and before that it was run well into the teens on an SS-2000. I've never heard a re-occurring issue with slinging blades on Hoss props. Hell, Mercury has had problems for years with ET's cracking an slinging blades, so has Mazco, SRX, and I'm sure many others. You run one high and long enough, it won't last forever. Good luck with your next prop.2006 Spectre 24' SCS
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04-01-2015, 10:49 AM #43Scream And Fly VIP
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04-04-2015, 09:51 AM #44
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04-05-2015, 05:49 PM #45
Hey Wired247,
I'm truly sorry for your "bad" experience with our Triton prop.
I know the prop is new to you & after a short time running it, throwing a blade off will ruin the day and cause much concern over any other Hoss propellers..... again, sorry for your situation.
Looking at the picture you posted..... it is indeed, as you say, an original Triton 1 propeller. I can tell by the casting marks near the hub that it is one of our original, full cast Tritons. We designed and manufactured that prop in the mid 1980's....... I can look up the serial number for you tomorrow afternoon and tell you exactly what day it was manufactured....... it was also made thin for the older 2.4 Merc's and we didn't have any issues with blade breakage until the 2.5's started to become readily available. We thickened up the root area along about the same time we designed the HyperDrive, then we thickened it up to match the HPD thickness one last time. All HyperDrives, both right & left rotation, are welded on blades! Since mid to late 1990's, all Triton props have been welded. We can weld blades on and have our own, special heat treat facilities/process that results in superior products compared to the full cast propeller.
As other's have stated, surfacing a propeller causes a lot of stress on the blades and really, it's a matter of time before any propeller would have issues, regardless of manufacture. Not knowing the history of the prop, lasting 30 something years until blade failure is actually not that bad, although, from your perspective, I understand the prop is new to you!
The full cast Triton's were almost exclusively 14" dia. They were great handling props, especially on Allison's, because we designed them on our Allison. They accelerated quickly, but they seemed to run up to a certain speed and "hit a brick wall".... no matter what we did, they just didn't seem to run any faster!..... The 14.5" dia. Triton's were different all together..... they didn't accelerate as quickly, but the more power you put to them, the more RPM, the faster you'd run!..... All the speed records were set with 14.5" dia. & the 14" were used for drag racing. Now that the smaller engines has been replaced with bigger cubic inch and bigger horsepower, we build mainly 14.5" dia. and bigger ...... haven't built a 14" Triton in many, many years?
Again, sorry for your bad experience with a Hoss Triton propeller.Thanks,
Tim Bostic
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