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    Dual cable to hydraulic steering

    I'm changing the steering on my '88 200 evinrude to a seastar hydraulic setup. I don't have the seastar system yet but it would seem I have to get rid of the forward steering tube from the old cable steering. The main pivot tube seems to go through it. I'm not sure how to get this piece out? Any ideas would be great. The boat is a Glastron cvx-20 and there is no room to work back there or even get good pictures.

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    Every time I've done it, the power head was off in the mid/clamp was off the boat laying on the ground. If you remove the large nut on the tube in the bottom picture, a woodblock and hammer can be used to get it moving. I suppose it might be possible to take the weight off the clamp with a winch and a flywheel ring, but I've never attempted it.
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    Just put a spanner and take off the top nut. that just acts like a lock nut.
    then put spanner on the one underneath and wind it out till it drops off, its that simple.
    keep the nut and the bolt as you will need it for the hydraulic link bar., its very fine thread.

    Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillnjack View Post
    Just put a spanner and take off the top nut. that just acts like a lock nut.
    then put spanner on the one underneath and wind it out till it drops off, its that simple.
    keep the nut and the bolt as you will need it for the hydraulic link bar., its very fine thread.

    Hope this helps

    phill
    He's talking about the tilt tube that is going through the dual steering tube bracket, not the steering linkage.

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    excuse me as this is a bit strange to me.
    But what has it got to do with taking off the tilt tube ?

    ive never seen anything that has 2 tubes, i.e 1 for tilt and 1 for steering.
    has anyone got a picture of this weird set up ?


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    you need the engine off the boat to change the tilt tube safely. then what I done was to use like above, a bit of wood then a big hammer to knock it free.
    once it stats to free the tilt tube its then just patience to get it all the way out.

    make up something to take weight of the engine, like a gantry.



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    Thanks for the replies. I did take the nuts off the tilt tube and put a wood block under the skeg and cranked the front of the trailer up to try and take some weight off. After hitting it with a block of wood it seemed really solid. I wasn't sure if the tilt tube was threaded in or not. I was hoping not to have to pull the engine off.
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    Whatever the effort I think you'll find it worth it. When I put my hydraulic steering in about 18 years ago I had to remove the motor or at least one of the brackets due to space limitations. The steering has been smooth and problem-free since. I also recently installed the smaller version of the hydraulic steering on a CVX-17 and avoided removing anything by trimming back one of the parts to fit... but that one was only going from the single cable steering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dockrash View Post
    Thanks for the replies. I did take the nuts off the tilt tube and put a wood block under the skeg and cranked the front of the trailer up to try and take some weight off. After hitting it with a block of wood it seemed really solid. I wasn't sure if the tilt tube was threaded in or not. I was hoping not to have to pull the engine off.
    You might want to try opening the pressure valve on the trim n tilt. It might be putting pressure on the tilt tube.

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    How did this turn out? Just wonderin ...
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    I have hung the motor and driven the tube out without removing the motor it will slip back in easily. Leave the tube in one bracket so you dont lose alignment. Onceyou get it to move it is a no brainer

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrafast View Post
    I have hung the motor and driven the tube out without removing the motor it will slip back in easily. Leave the tube in one bracket so you dont lose alignment. Onceyou get it to move it is a no brainer
    That is the plan.. With my mother-in-law in town and the Seahawks road to the superbowl I haven't done anything with it yet. Next week we're ordering up the parts and get it back together. Thanks for the replies, I'll update this when we have some progress.
    '88 Glastron/Carlson CVX-20
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    The mother in law is a reason to be in the garage!

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    I was wondering if you guys know the difference between a mother in-Law and a Pitbull ?????



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    Ok here is how to do it.. Some OMC engines have to remove the tube to remove the brackets that hold the front tube.. A piece of pipe should work to help you but we use another spare tube.. Lift the weight off the engine with a lift... (cherry picker or something to lift it from the flywheel) Then as the tube is slid out follow it with another one... Nothing gets out of alignment.. I had one in my shop about a year ago like that.. A Mercury/Mariner engine uses a bracket bolted on the front with 4 bolts but some OMC's had that mess like yours.. It can be just cut off with the engine hung off the transom. I did one like that once also.. I think we used a air drive die grinder with a cut off blade..
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